Scotland and 8 other European countries to conduct war games Oct 6 - Oct 16

recallone · 10-05-2008, 10:21 PM

I just finished listening to the recent interview with David Wilcock concerning Bill Deagle's interview. One of the things he mentioned is the planned joint military exercise between Scotland and the UK on Oct 6 to the 16th. Apparently, there are some more players involved.
I found this: http://www.thetreeofliberty.com/vb/s...ad.php?t=31005

More pieces of the puzzle.
Peace.

SHAMANKA · 10-05-2008, 10:27 PM

I live near the naval base, they do excersise work here from time to time, actual war games outside my door so to speak, they havent for a while and while I agree this is bigger than usual its not unusual.
I havent noticed any unusual sub activity of late, but that means nothing. I wonder how long this has been on record as happening. Thanks for posting.
peace.

Average Joe · 10-06-2008, 01:22 AM

A joint military operation between Scotland and the UK?

Scotland is PART of the UK and is not able to have a joint military operation with the UK!.....it does not have its own military forces. Neither does England, neither does Wales. The British Forces represent every country which is part of the UK.

Whoever said "Scotland is having a planned joint military exercise with the UK" (was it Deagle or Wilcock?) has got simple basic facts wrong and loses credibility.

recallone · 10-06-2008, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Average Joe

A joint military operation between Scotland and the UK?

Scotland is PART of the UK and is not able to have a joint military operation with the UK!.....it does not have its own military forces. Neither does England, neither does Wales. The British Forces represent every country which is part of the UK.

Whoever said "Scotland is having a planned joint military exercise with the UK" (was it Deagle or Wilcock?) has got simple basic facts wrong and loses credibility.

Um, read the link, dude. And it was Wilcock. Might actually want to listen to that, too. You're better prepared for a conversation if you actually listen to or read the information that's being addressed.
Peace.

Average Joe · 10-06-2008, 02:03 AM

I just read your post stating that Wilcock said Scotland is on a joint planned military exercise with the UK. This is impossible, as pointed out.

That is all.

Average Joe · 10-06-2008, 02:12 AM

PS the link won't load.

Natoka · 10-06-2008, 02:32 AM

Link worked for me. Found this to pass on.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=ak659oJYh9UI

snip
Russia Plans Biggest Air Exercises Since Soviet Times (Update2)

By Henry Meyer

Oct. 2 (Bloomberg) -- Russia will hold its largest air force exercises since the 1991 collapse of the Soviet Union next week, while a naval convoy on its way to Venezuela stages a show of strength in the Mediterranean.

Aircraft including supersonic Tu-160 nuclear bombers and strategic Tu-95 bombers will take part in the Oct. 6-12 maneuvers in the Russian Far East bordering China and the U.S. state of Alaska and in the Volga region, the Defense Ministry said on its Web Site today.
snip

Roughly the same time period as the European effort. Hmmm...

Natoka

recallone · 10-06-2008, 02:47 AM

The link (don't know what to say about it not working for you - seems to work fine for me) explains that there are eight countries involved. I don't know if you're getting your nose bent because someone isn't as saavy as you in geography, or what.
The point is this: different countries' militaries are planning exercises between the 6th and 16th.
That's it. Russia is greasing some palms in Venenzuela with arms deals, positioning themselves for a show of strength - meanwhile, Britian is planning their own little exercise. Thought some of you would want to know. If you just want to split hairs and find something to argue about, I'm not interested.

Peace.

Jeff Delano · 10-06-2008, 03:06 AM

recallone you fail at life, your geopolitics is inferior to mine hahaha. I'm just kidding around, you know that

I just watched some war games today, although it was an air show. The Blue Angels are very talented, has anyone else here seen them before?

This will be an interesting week, on the one hand you will have several people making up excuses for how their predictions/prophecies were wrong, and on the other hand some crazy stuff could happen. Here's to the best for humanity! For that is all that matters right here right now, the well being of the human being.

2infinityandbeyond · 10-06-2008, 03:32 AM

Very interesting that such opposing factions are having wargames in the same time frame.

*Dons his war hat*, rock 'n' roll

Sol Invictus · 10-06-2008, 03:49 AM

Joint warrior and Crown Condor.

Its routine, large yes, but routine and prepared for well in advance. The Hebrides will be seeing alot of low flying aircraft, as will the Cairngorms, and some live firing will be going on down at the ranges.

Its every year at this time of the year, as it has also its counterpart in the spring time.

Russia is sending its fleet out to have a nose around, but thats just how they were in the cold war.

Average Joe · 10-06-2008, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by recallone

The link (don't know what to say about it not working for you - seems to work fine for me) explains that there are eight countries involved. I don't know if you're getting your nose bent because someone isn't as saavy as you in geography, or what.
The point is this: different countries' militaries are planning exercises between the 6th and 16th.
That's it. Russia is greasing some palms in Venenzuela with arms deals, positioning themselves for a show of strength - meanwhile, Britian is planning their own little exercise. Thought some of you would want to know. If you just want to split hairs and find something to argue about, I'm not interested.

Peace.

My point is this....if somebody is telling you that Scotland is planning a joint military exercise with the UK, then that is impossible and wrong....if thats wrong what else is wrong within the rest of the information? Its not meant to be a geography lesson.

This isn't about arguing over trivial things, this is healthy scepticism......I already know that one part is majorly wrong and I thought I'd share it.

If you're not interested, fine.

QueenOfLeon · 10-06-2008, 09:09 AM

It is all over the news that the UK are doing this in Scotland, so the important thing to remember is that its A FACT!! & there is lots of live ammunition floating about right on our doorstep. However David phrased it is irrelevant. Yes Scotland is in the UK, yes the war games are happening in Scotland. Isnt that whats important here? Given that when 9/11 and 7/7 were carried out they happened to be doing drills, it slightly worries me. Stop the pettiness, read the facts.

Average Joe · 10-06-2008, 09:42 AM

The thing is, they're always playing war games aren't they? In the UK, in Europe, In Russia, in the US, etc.

To be honest I'm not too worried about a few military exercises. I've never been worried for the last 36 years, why start to worry today?

eurosceptic · 10-06-2008, 10:04 AM

AVERAGE JOE's POST STATED

A joint military operation between Scotland and the UK?

Scotland is PART of the UK and is not able to have a joint military operation with the UK!.....it does not have its own military forces. Neither does England, neither does Wales. The British Forces represent every country which is part of the UK.

Whoever said "Scotland is having a planned joint military exercise with the UK" (was it Deagle or Wilcock?) has got simple basic facts wrong and loses credibility.

haha...c'mon we all know that our set up on these little islands is a little unusual compared to the rest of the world so dont lets get all steamed up just becasue someone doesnt get it right away!! why should they!

Especially on a live interview with loads of travelling etc going on...we can all sit here and nit pick until the preverbial cows come home OR the sh#t makes contact with the fan!!

The fact is we know what was meant....there are exercises specifically in Scotland AND possibly ELSEWHERE IN BRITAIN....for example....I live near THETFORD FOREST....a huge area of that is permanatly closed off and exercises carried out - we dont EXACTLY know WHEN - but they go on....I've seen them!

There has obviously been info recently recieved that these are going on on a larger scale than is usual....THATS the point!

Quite possibly not JUST in Scotland....! It's up to us to keep an eye out in our local areas where we know exercises are carried out to see if there is unusual activity and report back onto this forum.

Lets just hope they dont start doing exercises on the streets of cities - that would be a worry....

C'mon - give me a rundown on the states in the US and their border history, names etc for that matter how about Canada??

Name all the terrorties in Austrailia?!!!

And those are the WELL KNOWN places to us in whatever part of Britain we call home....name the nations and their political set up in the pacific islands for example?! - We'd be here till the sh't DID make contact with the fan!! What exercises are being carried out in the pacific I wonder??

Then what use is the nit pickin!....! c'mon!

Tell me that Brittany in France - the most Celtic place in the world apart from Scotland, Ireland, Wales, and Cornwall, Tell me you know that Brittany (Bretagne) was ony taken BY FORCE by Napolean in the 1860's!!! Now they've got a more recent right to independence that Ireland, Wales, Scotaland , Cornwall (and possibly Northern Spain) put together!!

Point made I hope???!

I think a trip abroad maybe good for some people!!

If you want to get REALLY nit picky lets get it all out and over with.

Average Joe states that England Scotland etc are Countries WELL England, Scotland and Wales are NOT Countries! England is a NATION, Scotland is a NATION, Wales is a PRINCIPALITY!

The United Kingdom comprises of Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales, England, The Isle of Man and the Channel Isles (Crown Dependenies). The Scilly Isles are part of Cornwall.

So know that Britain (or Great Britian if you wish) comprises of England, Scotland and Wales therefore BRITAIN is a Soverign Country WITHIN the United Kingdom.

The BRITISH ISLES is the generic name for the whole Archpeliogo of Islands INCLUDING the Republic of Ireland which has NOTHING to do with the United Kingdom OR Britain!

Therefore - THE BRITISH ISLES is purley a Geographical term!

Britain or if you like GREAT BRITAIN has nothing to do with the Channel Islands OR the the Isle of Man!

CLEAR (as mud, yes?)

How many people who call themselves Britsh know all that I wonder, huh???

I am sure there is someone else who can be a lot more accurate and give all the historical reasoning behind it all....if they really thought it was needed...

I thank you good sirs. WORD! PEACE! "The revolution will not be televised..."

SHAMANKA · 10-06-2008, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sol Invictus

Joint warrior and Crown Condor.

Its routine, large yes, but routine and prepared for well in advance. The Hebrides will be seeing alot of low flying aircraft, as will the Cairngorms, and some live firing will be going on down at the ranges.

Its every year at this time of the year, as it has also its counterpart in the spring time.

Russia is sending its fleet out to have a nose around, but thats just how they were in the cold war.

EXACTLY!! thank you Sol..what I was trying to say in a rather feeble way earlier, this is what the miltary and navy here - and have been doing for years, been buzzed in eth highlands by low flying planes a few times..its just one big play ground for them when this happens, only differnce now is they tell people perhaps because of their so called conservation awareness ( see link ) -
and the fact the Russians are flexing at the same time is just part of it.
Bunch of peacocks strutting around.
Just hope they dont crash into anything this time, they seem to have problems navigating around Skye, where fairy and selkie activity is at its strongest of course!

adrenochrome · 10-06-2008, 07:59 PM

anyone heard any more info on this???

adrenochrome · 10-06-2008, 09:55 PM

how did it go from Russia to Scotland? it doesn't even mention Scotland in that bloomberg article...

371 · 10-06-2008, 10:09 PM

Recall that on 9-11-01 the military was conducting wargames for a 'terrorist attack'... convienient confusion.

Southsea · 10-06-2008, 10:32 PM

and it's not just Scotland, check this.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wa...1466-21914726/

adrenochrome · 10-06-2008, 11:47 PM

check out my thread i started over at ATS about this - i dug up a buncha links!

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread398356/pg1

thanks to those that provided links here though, to help me in the right direction!

10-05-2008, 10:21 PM	#1
recallone Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 289	Scotland and 8 other European countries to conduct war games Oct 6 - Oct 16 I just finished listening to the recent interview with David Wilcock concerning Bill Deagle's interview. One of the things he mentioned is the planned joint military exercise between Scotland and the UK on Oct 6 to the 16th. Apparently, there are some more players involved. I found this: http://www.thetreeofliberty.com/vb/s...ad.php?t=31005 More pieces of the puzzle. Peace.

10-05-2008, 10:27 PM	#2
SHAMANKA Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Scotland Posts: 17	Re: Scotland and 8 other European countries to conduct war games Oct 6 - Oct 16 I live near the naval base, they do excersise work here from time to time, actual war games outside my door so to speak, they havent for a while and while I agree this is bigger than usual its not unusual. I havent noticed any unusual sub activity of late, but that means nothing. I wonder how long this has been on record as happening. Thanks for posting. peace.

10-06-2008, 01:22 AM	#3
Average Joe Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 377	Re: Scotland and 8 other European countries to conduct war games Oct 6 - Oct 16 A joint military operation between Scotland and the UK? Scotland is PART of the UK and is not able to have a joint military operation with the UK!.....it does not have its own military forces. Neither does England, neither does Wales. The British Forces represent every country which is part of the UK. Whoever said "Scotland is having a planned joint military exercise with the UK" (was it Deagle or Wilcock?) has got simple basic facts wrong and loses credibility.

10-06-2008, 02:03 AM	#5
Average Joe Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 377	Re: Scotland and 8 other European countries to conduct war games Oct 6 - Oct 16 I just read your post stating that Wilcock said Scotland is on a joint planned military exercise with the UK. This is impossible, as pointed out. That is all.

10-06-2008, 02:12 AM	#6
Average Joe Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 377	Re: Scotland and 8 other European countries to conduct war games Oct 6 - Oct 16 PS the link won't load.

10-06-2008, 02:32 AM	#7
Natoka Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Petaluma Ca Posts: 15	Re: Scotland and 8 other European countries to conduct war games Oct 6 - Oct 16 Link worked for me. Found this to pass on. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=ak659oJYh9UI snip Russia Plans Biggest Air Exercises Since Soviet Times (Update2) By Henry Meyer Oct. 2 (Bloomberg) -- Russia will hold its largest air force exercises since the 1991 collapse of the Soviet Union next week, while a naval convoy on its way to Venezuela stages a show of strength in the Mediterranean. Aircraft including supersonic Tu-160 nuclear bombers and strategic Tu-95 bombers will take part in the Oct. 6-12 maneuvers in the Russian Far East bordering China and the U.S. state of Alaska and in the Volga region, the Defense Ministry said on its Web Site today. snip Roughly the same time period as the European effort. Hmmm... Natoka

10-06-2008, 02:47 AM	#8
recallone Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 289	Re: Scotland and 8 other European countries to conduct war games Oct 6 - Oct 16 The link (don't know what to say about it not working for you - seems to work fine for me) explains that there are eight countries involved. I don't know if you're getting your nose bent because someone isn't as saavy as you in geography, or what. The point is this: different countries' militaries are planning exercises between the 6th and 16th. That's it. Russia is greasing some palms in Venenzuela with arms deals, positioning themselves for a show of strength - meanwhile, Britian is planning their own little exercise. Thought some of you would want to know. If you just want to split hairs and find something to argue about, I'm not interested. Peace.

10-06-2008, 03:06 AM	#9
Jeff Delano Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Fallbrook, CA Posts: 62	Re: Scotland and 8 other European countries to conduct war games Oct 6 - Oct 16 recallone you fail at life, your geopolitics is inferior to mine hahaha. I'm just kidding around, you know that I just watched some war games today, although it was an air show. The Blue Angels are very talented, has anyone else here seen them before? This will be an interesting week, on the one hand you will have several people making up excuses for how their predictions/prophecies were wrong, and on the other hand some crazy stuff could happen. Here's to the best for humanity! For that is all that matters right here right now, the well being of the human being.

10-06-2008, 03:32 AM	#10
2infinityandbeyond Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Gaia, Solas System, Milkyway Posts: 398	Re: Scotland and 8 other European countries to conduct war games Oct 6 - Oct 16 Very interesting that such opposing factions are having wargames in the same time frame. Dons his war hat, rock 'n' roll

10-06-2008, 03:49 AM	#11
Sol Invictus Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 599	Re: Scotland and 8 other European countries to conduct war games Oct 6 - Oct 16 Joint warrior and Crown Condor. Its routine, large yes, but routine and prepared for well in advance. The Hebrides will be seeing alot of low flying aircraft, as will the Cairngorms, and some live firing will be going on down at the ranges. Its every year at this time of the year, as it has also its counterpart in the spring time. Russia is sending its fleet out to have a nose around, but thats just how they were in the cold war.

10-06-2008, 09:09 AM	#13
QueenOfLeon Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 122	Re: Scotland and 8 other European countries to conduct war games Oct 6 - Oct 16 It is all over the news that the UK are doing this in Scotland, so the important thing to remember is that its A FACT!! & there is lots of live ammunition floating about right on our doorstep. However David phrased it is irrelevant. Yes Scotland is in the UK, yes the war games are happening in Scotland. Isnt that whats important here? Given that when 9/11 and 7/7 were carried out they happened to be doing drills, it slightly worries me. Stop the pettiness, read the facts.

10-06-2008, 09:42 AM	#14
Average Joe Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 377	Re: Scotland and 8 other European countries to conduct war games Oct 6 - Oct 16 The thing is, they're always playing war games aren't they? In the UK, in Europe, In Russia, in the US, etc. To be honest I'm not too worried about a few military exercises. I've never been worried for the last 36 years, why start to worry today?

10-06-2008, 10:04 AM	#15
eurosceptic Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Flatlands of Eastern England Posts: 226	Re: Scotland and 8 other European countries to conduct war games Oct 6 - Oct 16 AVERAGE JOE's POST STATED A joint military operation between Scotland and the UK? Scotland is PART of the UK and is not able to have a joint military operation with the UK!.....it does not have its own military forces. Neither does England, neither does Wales. The British Forces represent every country which is part of the UK. Whoever said "Scotland is having a planned joint military exercise with the UK" (was it Deagle or Wilcock?) has got simple basic facts wrong and loses credibility. haha...c'mon we all know that our set up on these little islands is a little unusual compared to the rest of the world so dont lets get all steamed up just becasue someone doesnt get it right away!! why should they! Especially on a live interview with loads of travelling etc going on...we can all sit here and nit pick until the preverbial cows come home OR the sh#t makes contact with the fan!! The fact is we know what was meant....there are exercises specifically in Scotland AND possibly ELSEWHERE IN BRITAIN....for example....I live near THETFORD FOREST....a huge area of that is permanatly closed off and exercises carried out - we dont EXACTLY know WHEN - but they go on....I've seen them! There has obviously been info recently recieved that these are going on on a larger scale than is usual....THATS the point! Quite possibly not JUST in Scotland....! It's up to us to keep an eye out in our local areas where we know exercises are carried out to see if there is unusual activity and report back onto this forum. Lets just hope they dont start doing exercises on the streets of cities - that would be a worry.... C'mon - give me a rundown on the states in the US and their border history, names etc for that matter how about Canada?? Name all the terrorties in Austrailia?!!! And those are the WELL KNOWN places to us in whatever part of Britain we call home....name the nations and their political set up in the pacific islands for example?! - We'd be here till the sh't DID make contact with the fan!! What exercises are being carried out in the pacific I wonder?? Then what use is the nit pickin!....! c'mon! Tell me that Brittany in France - the most Celtic place in the world apart from Scotland, Ireland, Wales, and Cornwall, Tell me you know that Brittany (Bretagne) was ony taken BY FORCE by Napolean in the 1860's!!! Now they've got a more recent right to independence that Ireland, Wales, Scotaland , Cornwall (and possibly Northern Spain) put together!! Point made I hope???! I think a trip abroad maybe good for some people!! If you want to get REALLY nit picky lets get it all out and over with. Average Joe states that England Scotland etc are Countries WELL England, Scotland and Wales are NOT Countries! England is a NATION, Scotland is a NATION, Wales is a PRINCIPALITY! The United Kingdom comprises of Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales, England, The Isle of Man and the Channel Isles (Crown Dependenies). The Scilly Isles are part of Cornwall. So know that Britain (or Great Britian if you wish) comprises of England, Scotland and Wales therefore BRITAIN is a Soverign Country WITHIN the United Kingdom. The BRITISH ISLES is the generic name for the whole Archpeliogo of Islands INCLUDING the Republic of Ireland which has NOTHING to do with the United Kingdom OR Britain! Therefore - THE BRITISH ISLES is purley a Geographical term! Britain or if you like GREAT BRITAIN has nothing to do with the Channel Islands OR the the Isle of Man! CLEAR (as mud, yes?) How many people who call themselves Britsh know all that I wonder, huh??? I am sure there is someone else who can be a lot more accurate and give all the historical reasoning behind it all....if they really thought it was needed... I thank you good sirs. WORD! PEACE! "The revolution will not be televised..." Last edited by eurosceptic; 10-06-2008 at 09:55 PM.

10-06-2008, 07:59 PM	#17
adrenochrome Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 14	Re: Scotland and 8 other European countries to conduct war games Oct 6 - Oct 16 anyone heard any more info on this???

10-06-2008, 09:55 PM	#18
adrenochrome Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 14	Re: Scotland and 8 other European countries to conduct war games Oct 6 - Oct 16 how did it go from Russia to Scotland? it doesn't even mention Scotland in that bloomberg article...

10-06-2008, 10:09 PM	#19
371 Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 503	Re: Scotland and 8 other European countries to conduct war games Oct 6 - Oct 16 Recall that on 9-11-01 the military was conducting wargames for a 'terrorist attack'... convienient confusion.

10-06-2008, 10:32 PM	#20
Southsea Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 46	Re: Scotland and 8 other European countries to conduct war games Oct 6 - Oct 16 and it's not just Scotland, check this. http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wa...1466-21914726/

10-06-2008, 11:47 PM	#21
adrenochrome Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 14	Re: Scotland and 8 other European countries to conduct war games Oct 6 - Oct 16 check out my thread i started over at ATS about this - i dug up a buncha links! http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread398356/pg1 thanks to those that provided links here though, to help me in the right direction!