Three choices.

[Irving]

This post should be fun.. A bit of dark comedic relief.

I sometimes can get a bit cynical about the immediate future because it can be very difficult to sort through all of the various possibilities, unprovable testimony and disinformation. Yet its clear that our world is totally manipulated by a dark elite and possibly even otherworldly intelligence. Its clear that the vast majority of us humans have very bad taste and attitudes and have made this world unbearable for those of us who are onto the truth. If you know the likes of comedians like Bill Hicks or George Carlin, you should know where I'm coming from.

It makes me hardly be able to contain myself until civilization falls apart. I dream about seeing all of the shopping malls, overconsumption, horrible music, pop culture, celebrity worship and corrupt governments and religion come crashing down to the ground. I simply cannot wait. I mean, I do have lots of love and compassion for others and their health and safety, but I'm sick of waiting! When is the sky going to fall dammit!? haha. I'm serious. I'm ******* ready, lets go. Get this show on the road. I've got my soul, my guns, my food, and various other supplies. I am READY!

I do, of course, want peace and harmony and free energy and a golden age and the end of all suffering to come in due time - but I think we are entitled to a period of total chaos and anarchy right before that arrives, don't you? Where's the adventure in swiftly moving into a golden age? Where is the fun in that? Shouldn't this be survival of the fittest?

Can we get a poll up here, with the following 3 choices?

1. Do you want a short period of utter chaos and complete anarchy before a blissful golden age of enlightenment arrives?

2. Do you want straight up anarchy and chaos for all eternity?

3. Do you hope that things have already gotten about as bad as they are going to get and that a golden age is already beginning to unfold?

Thoughts? Laughter? Disgust?

[lock'N'load]

For a long time now ive thought that the only way in which we as a society are going to make any kind of spiritual advancement is if we ultimitaly start over, begin a new. Its difficult to imagine how it could be possible to go from where we are now with our corrupt governments, churches and educational institions to a free happy inteligent society where love is respected and criminals are shown the right way instead of being locked up in an institution that can only be described as a school for criminals.

The powers that be have everything so well controlled that 90% of the population think that they are in control. Which is why the only way i see us getting out of this mess is some form of worldwide catastrophe that would result in them breaking their grip on the current infrastructure.

I have a lot of love for the people of this earth and am aware that there are many good honest kind loving people here. But i would be prepared to push a button that would kill a lot of people and cause a lot of devestation if i knew that when we rebuilt society it would be the idealistic paradise that we are very much capable of creating.
I would do this because it would stop all the pain, and pain is much worse then death itself. Death is a new begining so it is nothing to be feared.
Many will see this as an evil point of view but if i could take all that pain away in an instant then i would do it. I'm pretty sure god would give me detention tho haha.

So im going with option one.

1. Do you want a short period of utter chaos and complete anarchy before a blissful golden age of enlightenment arrives?

It is a means to an end.

[Irving]

Are Lock N Load and I really the only two who find this worthy of discussion? I think its the best thread on this whole board. haha. Well maybe not the best, but I love dark humor. It's not just humor though, its serious too.

Come on now, I want to see peoples true colors. Do you want a bit of anarchy and adventure and then peace? Do you want things to move slowly into peace with no chaos at all? Do you want straight up and utter chaos for all eternity?

I ultimately want peace and a golden age but I also want a bit of chaos and adventure before that peace arrives. I mean, I don't want people to get hurt necessarily, but where's the adventure in simply having things move straight towards peace with no problems? There has been too much buildup at this point! I think I am entitled to my slice of anarchy!

I think its the duality inside of me, I am very open, honest, loving and genuine, but I am also an interesting man with a bit of a dark and twisted sense of humor. Its light and dark, I gladly embody both, love to be both and can't wait until economic collapse or some other societal disintegration. It entertains me that our entire system is incredibly vulnerable to "terrorist" attacks, economic collapse, food shortages, riots, potential revolutions and so forth. Bring it on! Now, before you just label me as immature and ignore this thread, I suggest giving my "childish attitude" some philosophical thought.

Because really, since everything is a divine flow, chaos, I think, must ensue in order for vast change to take place. It's like reorganizing your bedroom. If you don't like the current setup you must reorganize that room into a way that suits your desire. There is no way that your bedroom is magically going to appear into the desired setup. Chaos must ensue in that bedroom, of this I am positive. So, my Avalon friends, I say to thee, bring on the divine bouts of chaos and have no fear. It is but an adventure with an end goal of peace. It is a movie to watch unfold and to be a character within and to try to help others during.

We are fortunate souls, here at Avalon, because we realize the nature of this collective dream that we are having. I think that the best help that we can ever give to anybody during the coming times is to help them mentally and spiritually by simply spreading the message of love and to never be afraid, ever, for any reason. Maybe my attitude seems a bit childish or not serious enough, and this would be exactly correct and I am proud of it. I think that it is ultimately about conquering our fears and embracing the potential short period of chaos that we, as a species, have clearly earned. What do you think?

Im thinking about the 1st choice..though i feel that the third one could be close too...
You see if we were to consider this present state as chaos then the first option is the best decision. However, if you are of the belief (like I am) that everything is in divine and perfect order then taking the last option makes sense too. Its all about how we percieve things. Is there really a difference between now and the golden age? I dont think so because with so many of us connecting on similiar things (people have been locked up for even speaking of this stuff in the past) and evolving, its evident that we are the forerunners of the golden age...which only means two things. First, its here and second, we are responsible for it.

[Sam]

If you want to know how things are going to play out look at the major prophecies passed down through history. Not because they are right, per say, but because a large portion of TPTB are in the prophecy fulfilling business.

Irving said this:

"We are fortunate souls, here at Avalon, because we realize the nature of this collective dream that we are having. I think that the best help that we can ever give to anybody during the coming times is to help them mentally and spiritually by simply spreading the message of love and to never be afraid, ever, for any reason. Maybe my attitude seems a bit childish or not serious enough, and this would be exactly correct and I am proud of it. I think that it is ultimately about conquering our fears and embracing the potential short period of chaos that we, as a species, have clearly earned. What do you think?"

And in my opinion this is correct, in the end there will be gnashing of teeth, and perhaps this is how the "divine plan" is meant to be in order to wake people up so they value things that are real and forever, like love and light. This is all one big soul lesson.

[Mike_Jetson]

Number 1 needs to happen even in a small way for number 3 to even be considered. Number 1 must happen simply because doing 'nothing' to be free will result in death. Doing 'nothing' is exactly what is needed but most people cant survive living for themselves so they form groups, get angry and cause choas.

Its a shame when our plans and their plans follow and very similar path for the 1st part before veering off in different directions.

[Irving]

Originally Posted by New Avtar

Im thinking about the 1st choice..though i feel that the third one could be close too...
You see if we were to consider this present state as chaos then the first option is the best decision. However, if you are of the belief (like I am) that everything is in divine and perfect order then taking the last option makes sense too. Its all about how we percieve things. Is there really a difference between now and the golden age? I dont think so because with so many of us connecting on similiar things (people have been locked up for even speaking of this stuff in the past) and evolving, its evident that we are the forerunners of the golden age...which only means two things. First, its here and second, we are responsible for it.

You make a very good point there, New Avtar. It is people like us who are going to gradually replace the current paradigm with truth and love. As George Greens' books emphasize, we need not battle head to head with the current order of things. Rather, we simply need to completely bypass the current order and start anew from scratch. The current system is unsalvageable in my eyes.

Groups that are coming together here on Avalon are certainly not going to get smaller, so I think when viewed from this perspective, time IS on our side. This is simply because we have truth and love on our side. Very, very few will leave truth to go back to the dark. Once you have seen the light there is no going back. So, I think that we will grow more organized, enlightened and inspired as time moves forward while those who are under the mass cultural and media spell will be shrinking in their numbers. It will get REAL interesting if the entire power grid were to go down, which is clearly why we need to organize as well as we can before such time comes.