US Centers for Disease Control: Swine flu Directors Briefing, 14 May 2009

[Waterman]

I have just acquired meeting documents from a May 14th meeting of the CDC. The topic was a May 11th report by the CDC on the swine flu.

Quoting Wikileaks.

"Unless otherwise specified the document described here:

• Was first publicly revealed by Wikileaks working with our source.
• At that time was classified, confidential, censored or otherwise withheld from the public.
• Is of political, diplomatic, ethical or historical significance.
• Any questions about this document's veracity are noted.
• The summary is approved by the editorial board."

Click for secured link to document.

Or the blog below.

[Waterman]

Things are not what they seem. I've just been told that the flu is more widespread than is being reported to the public. In private, the assitant director of the CDC admitted that there are probably up to 100,000 people now infected. AND that isn't all they may not be telling us.

This is important because it will give us all an idea who, what, where, and most importantly how to proceed. I know there are all kinds of remedies pandered for this. However, answers are not that easy. Having spent three months upon the request of an indian nation to research and come up with an natural/alternative remedy for anthrax, I was not satisfied with many of the "natural/alternative" solutions. At least not enough to count on them alone to save the lives of my loved ones. And that was the case until I learned about pleomorphic isopathic remedies.

Pleomorphic remedies work! However, just recently (isn't that interesting) the largest US supplier of remedies lost their contract to distribute and their attempt to acquire another supplier of these remedies from Germany was blocked by the FDA from coming into the US.

This is not something that should be followed emotionally through the rise and fall of television coverage. It should be examined politically as well as scientifally. So, should you come across names of researchers and doctors that are NOT at the top of their organization they might give us some info (I would wllingly contact them). Contacting the public relations folks and administrative leadership of WHO, CDC, etc...is a waste of time, because of the obvious.

In the meantime I have found a nearly exact replacement for the pleomorphic/isopathic remedies that are no longer available. Again, how and why they work is too lengthy to post here. However, you can start by going to my blog and reading "The Flu and You and What To Do". There I explain pleomorphic isopathic remedies. Otherwise you can contact me.

[Carrie1971]

Here is what I can "ad" to this.

First let me explain that I have a "condition" which makes it so I "catch" everything that is "going to go around". Kind of the flag ship of the next germ.

No matter how hard I try to stay away from people and not touch germs or be around folks who are sick I still somehow get sick.

Last Feb. I was so very sick with some kind of a flu unlike any I have ever had.
Full blown headache that was blinding in pain level. ( I have a strong Rx for such things and it did not touch it.) Then the body ache with cough. In a matter of hours I was thowing uip and then the "runs". ( Again I have Rx's for all those symtoms and they could not touch it.)... So I did what I could to stay warm rest and I drank 2 gallons of distilled water and waited. ... It took 3 days to get over the stuff and I still had another week of being down before I could do anything...


I live up in the northwoods of Idaho. Close to Canada and I am not the only person who got that bug it was winter and I did not have any cross contact with other people who got it. BUT I do know for sure that once it was in a household everyone got it. No one knew then that it was the start of a "new?" flu... BUT I do think if they "CDC" were to test me they will see my body did build up anitbodies for the "new flu".


I know the reason I got over the stuff was my knowledge of hearbals and diet supplements and knowing what to do for what symtom. Not saying that this "new flu" is anything man made but it sure makes me wonder where in the world this will stop.

More than one microbiolgist has said "what the hey" on this one..

[Tango]

Originally Posted by Carrie1971

Here is what I can "ad" to this.

First let me explain that I have a "condition" which makes it so I "catch" everything that is "going to go around". Kind of the flag ship of the next germ.

No matter how hard I try to stay away from people and not touch germs or be around folks who are sick I still somehow get sick.

Last Feb. I was so very sick with some kind of a flu unlike any I have ever had.
Full blown headache that was blinding in pain level. ( I have a strong Rx for such things and it did not touch it.) Then the body ache with cough. In a matter of hours I was thowing uip and then the "runs". ( Again I have Rx's for all those symtoms and they could not touch it.)... So I did what I could to stay warm rest and I drank 2 gallons of distilled water and waited. ... It took 3 days to get over the stuff and I still had another week of being down before I could do anything...


I live up in the northwoods of Idaho. Close to Canada and I am not the only person who got that bug it was winter and I did not have any cross contact with other people who got it. BUT I do know for sure that once it was in a household everyone got it. No one knew then that it was the start of a "new?" flu... BUT I do think if they "CDC" were to test me they will see my body did build up anitbodies for the "new flu".


I know the reason I got over the stuff was my knowledge of hearbals and diet supplements and knowing what to do for what symtom. Not saying that this "new flu" is anything man made but it sure makes me wonder where in the world this will stop.

More than one microbiolgist has said "what the hey" on this one..

You Carri, need a GB 4000.... Before you Really get a bug

1-800-550-5119 Talk to Ellen... She's right there by you
in Price, UT 84501

Nice people.... I don't take pharmaceuticals...


Trooly,


Tango

Sorry for interrupting...

[Anchor]

It strikes me that if you wanted to spread some serious disinformation on H1N1 right now, especially amongst people like us, then a "leak" to wikileaks would be the way to go about it.

A..

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Focus on what you WANT, not what you DONT WANT.
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[Humble Janitor]

Funny how it's seemingly disappeared from the news or they no longer seem to panic about it.

The University where I work lifted their ban on student travel to Mexico recently.

I would think that "we" thrwarted "them" again but I'm not 100% sure.

[Christo888]

Originally Posted by Anchor

It strikes me that if you wanted to spread some serious disinformation on H1N1 right now, especially amongst people like us, then a "leak" to wikileaks would be the way to go about it.

A..

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Focus on what you WANT, not what you DONT WANT.
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[tone3jaguar]

The swine flu lie is over now, any thing else about it is just more b.s.

[Soulmate7]

Originally Posted by tone3jaguar

The swine flu lie is over now, any thing else about it is just more b.s.

Please don't fall for the media bs.

[WiNaDeYo]

Homework reading assignment: H1N1 101

http://www.wickedlocal.com/belmont/n...d-cases-May-18

Update on H1N1 (swine flu) confirmed cases, May 18
By Mass. DPH
Mon May 18, 2009, 03:49 PM EDT

Boston, Mass. - Since the last update on Friday, May 15, DPH has confirmed 26 additional H1N1 influenza (swine flu) cases in Massachusetts. This brings the confirmed case count to 167.

Two of the newly confirmed cases were hospitalized, which brings the total number of hospitalizations to 13. The total number of hospitalizations is likely to fluctuate over the next few days as records are updated to reflect the new CDC definition of “hospitalizations.” The new definition includes only those cases that were hospitalized for longer than 24 hours.

As the number of cases in Massachusetts continues to increase, the focus on individual case counts becomes less important than examining overall trends.

Therefore, beginning today, DPH will shift away from listing individual cases of confirmed H1N1, and will instead begin listing aggregate cases by county. DPH will also provide data on age distribution of cases and an aggregate count of hospitalizations in the state.

Please note that DPH continues to work closely with health care providers and local public health departments on community level prevention activities.

Flu outbreaks evolve in unpredictable ways; it is impossible to know whether this outbreak will decrease, remain the same, or grow in coming weeks, and whether the illness will remain at its current severity which, on the whole has been relatively mild. Some severe cases may occur in people with underlying risk factors such as young children, the elderly, and people with chronic medical conditions. The Centers for Disease Control and DPH are watching closely for signs of increased severity of the H1N1 influenza (swine flu), and will continue to monitor and report on any developing trends.

Because there is no vaccine for H1N1 influenza, public health officials remind all Massachusetts residents to continue taking simple steps to keep themselves and others healthy.

§ Wash your hands frequently with soap and warm water or use an alcohol-based hand sanitizer.

§ Cover your cough with a tissue or cough into your inner elbow and not into your hands.

§ If you are sick stay home from work and if your child is sick keep them home from school for 7 days, or 24 hours after your symptoms go away—whichever is longer.

§ Stay informed about the latest developments on the H1N1 flu.

For more information on H1N1 flu (swine flu) please visit www.mass.gov/dph.

..and this is just the state of Mass...

Extra bonus reading:

http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/Inte...ally-4464.html

10,000 with swine flu globally
BY AGENCE FRANCE PRESSE
Update 4 hours and 49 minutes ago

GENEVA, May 19 - The global tally of confirmed swine flu cases in 40 countries rose by 1,001 in a day to 9,830, with 79 deaths, the World Health Organisation said on Tuesday.


10,000 with swine flu globally
BY AGENCE FRANCE PRESSE
Update 4 hours and 49 minutes ago

GENEVA, May 19 - The global tally of confirmed swine flu cases in 40 countries rose by 1,001 in a day to 9,830, with 79 deaths, the World Health Organisation said on Tuesday.

Some 545 of the new confirmed cases and four of the additional deaths recorded since Monday were reported by Mexico, while 409 new cases and one additional death were reported by the United States, data posted on the WHO's website showed.

The third most infected country was Japan, which has been the focus of most recent concern because of the sudden spike in infections there that has prompted authorities to close thousands of schools.

Japan reported 34 new cases bringing the national total to 159, according to the WHO's daily update.

The other new cases were recorded in Chile (three, for a total of four), China (one, total seven), El Salvador (two, total six), Panama (five, total 59), Peru (one, total two) and Britain (one, total 102).

This one too, folks:

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/jap...s-grow-sharply

May 18, 2009, 2:58 a.m. EST
Japan swine flu cases mushrooming
WHO may reportedly hike swine flu alert level

The nation's number of cases of swine flu, also known as influenza A-H1N1, reached a government tally of 92, after 84 people in Osaka and Hyogo prefectures, including high school and college students, were confirmed as infected with the H1N1 strain of influenza A, Kyodo reported Monday.

But in a separate report, Kyodo said its own calculations show that the number of Japanese cases of new flu infections was higher, at 129.

Japanese authorities confirmed Saturday that a student in Kobe who had not been overseas was infected, according to a New York Times report.

The Times report said the World Health Organization may soon raise its pandemic alert level to 6 -- the highest level -- due to the rise in Japanese cases.

By definition, if the World Health Organization finds sustained community transmission -- infections between people with no connection to travel from North America -- it will "presumably" raise its pandemic alert level to 6, since Japan is outside of the WHO Americas region, the report said.

Designation of a phase 6 would indicate that a global pandemic is under way, according to the WHO.

The level was still set at phase 5 shortly before 11 p.m. Eastern time Sunday, according to a spokeswoman for WHO. The U.N. health body defines phase 5 as a "strong signal that a pandemic is imminent."

In a recent update posted on its Web site, the WHO said 39 countries have officially reported a total of 8,480 cases of the influenza A-H1N1 infection, with Mexico reporting 2,895 laboratory-confirmed human cases of infection.
Call for 'calm'

The spread of the flu cases may have "notable effects" on the global economy, the International Monetary Fund's first deputy managing director, John Lipsky, said at a news conference Monday in Tokyo, according to Kyodo.

Meanwhile, Japan's Prime Minister Taro Aso called for calm Monday following the reports of the new domestic flu infections.

He also said the government has no plans to ask citizens to scale down corporate activity, Kyodo reported.

The outbreak led to a decision to suspend classes for certain periods at more than 1,000 schools in Osaka and Hyogo.

Several companies have also taken measures to deal with the spread of the flu infections.

Cosmetics company Shiseido Co. /quotes/comstock/!4911 (JP:4911 1,656, +59.00, +3.69%) has banned 25,000 workers at domestic group firms from taking any business trips within Japan after already having ended overseas visits, an article in the Nikkei newspaper's Monday morning edition.

Mass electronics retailer Edion Corp. /quotes/comstock/!2730 (JP:2730 577.00, +18.00, +3.22%) has told its sales personnel who use public transportation to avoid peak travel times, allowing them to "stagger" their starting times, the report said.

And another:

http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-05-19-voa32.cfm

H1N1 Swine Flu Continues to Spread
By Melinda Smith
Washington
19 May 2009

The H1N1 swine flu virus continues to make its way around the world, with at least 8,800 cases now confirmed in 40 countries. On Monday, an assistant school principal in New York City died from the swine flu, making a total of six deaths reported in the U.S. The virus was at the top of the agenda this week, as health officials from 193 countries met for the World Health Assembly in Geneva, Switzerland...

Dr. Margaret Chan, Director-General of the World Health Organization, says for some time governments have known that preparedness was needed. "We have lived for five long years under the threat of pandemic caused by the lethal H5N1 avian influenza virus. This has left our world better prepared, but also, very scared," she said.

The influenza season is now underway in the southern hemisphere. Dr. Chan is predicting epidemics in several countries where the virus has been reported in that part of the world.

Because the new H1N1 strain spreads rapidly from person to person, researchers have been working furiously to produce a vaccine in case the virus regains strength and affects greater numbers of people.

U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius says production of a new vaccine is not intended to disrupt production of a seasonal vaccine. "U.S. government agencies are working together in an unprecedented way to take the steps necessary to develop a vaccine against the H1N1 virus, should there be a need for it, and doing it in a way that ensures the production of seasonal flu vaccine continues," she said.

The World Health Organization estimates that as many as two billion doses of the swine flu vaccine might be produced. The vaccine may be ready in four to six months.

Special interest reading:

http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-05-19-voa16.cfm

US Preparing for Possible H1N1 Swine Flu Pandemic
By Lisa Schlein
Geneva
19 May 2009


A senior U.S. health official urges countries to adopt aggressive measures to contain the A-H1N1 swine flu virus. U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius says everyone must cooperate in this activity because disease knows no borders....

http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2009/...accine465.html

'Still in danger zone,' for swine flu: UN chief
Last Updated: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 | 1:02 PM ET
CBC News

Drugs and vaccines against the global swine flu outbreak need to be available to poor countries, the head of the United Nations told top health officials Tuesday as they discussed delays in creating a vaccine.

"We must remain vigilant," UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon told a news conference at the World Health Organization's annual meeting in Geneva.

"We may be in a grace period with H1N1 but we are still in the danger zone."

Don't fool yourselves and do your homework! It ain't over, folks, so don't let your guard down!
Peace and Good Will!

[Waterman]

WIN that is exactly what I've been trying to say. I don't know where these folks get this "it's over" idea. I think this comes from following television news and information. Yes, please do the homework, and shoot the enemy.... the televsion.

[Waterman]

Several years ago I was sitting in a government building and receiving special training from the Army Medical Command in response to what happened after 11 Sept. As I sat there and pondered what was transpiring the most eye opening part was how ill prepared the military was.

One would hope that they are prepared for the worst case but unfortunately military medical personnel are as ill prepared to manage or mismanage that type of event as FEMA was/is a hurricane. However, military involvement in civilian affairs is a two sided coin.

One side of the coin would ask why the military gets involved at all because that is not their venue or jurisdiction. And the abuse the public could have foisted upon them by troops running amuck ordering civilians around like a sci-fi movie is a real possibility.

So the question is, what is the military's job and bottom line what will they do? I can dare to answer that because it has been said, they will do whatever the "Commander In Chief" orders to be done. Unfortunately like the article below states there is a notorious connection between the military and anything called a pandemic. And unfortunately the military does not have, nor will have an answer in place to rehabilitate biologically infected citizens, so why get involved?

In case you are pondering an urge to call this post "fear mongering", you will just have to trust the fact that, that is not my intent nor belief. I only mention this so that if it were to occur you would be prepared and have plans in place for managing ALL the scenarios related to a problem of this kind. And unfortunately, we could be just a short few months away from this occurring.

To best handle this is to prepare with as many answers ahead of time as possible.

First, learn what you CAN do, Learn how to remedy those you care about if they were to get infected or exposed. And also just as dismal, learn and decide how you are going to respond if military knocks on your door.

We can't do much about what the military will or won't do, but we can prepare with real answers to the potential for infection, and be mentally prepared for a knock on the door.

Let's just hope our soldiers taking orders can remember their oath if it were to ever happen.

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Swine flu outbreak reveals military plans, gaps

By LOLITA C. BALDOR – 21 hours ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — The rapid spread of swine flu from Mexico surprised Pentagon officials, who had been focused on a possible Asian-borne pandemic in a response plan that would give the military a last-resort role in helping to impose quarantines and border restrictions.

Drafted and overhauled several times in recent years, the military's closely guarded plan for an influenza pandemic assumed that officials would have more time before the flu hit U.S. shores. The Associated Press obtained briefing documents about the military's pandemic contingency plan.

The H1N1 flu outbreak set U.S. military commanders scrambling to monitor and protect troops based near the 2,000-mile southern border and on ships nearby.
The virus spread quickly across the border into Southern California, infecting at least 27 sailors on a ship docked at San Diego, four Marines at Camp Pendleton and at least one Marine at Twentynine Palms. Several dozen Marines have been quarantined, and nearly two dozen other sailors had flu symptoms but have so far not been confirmed as having the H1N1 virus.

"We anticipated scientifically that we would have time to do different things," said Amy Kircher, an epidemiologist with U.S. Northern Command's surgeon general's office. Northern Command oversees the country's homeland defense, including coordination with Canada and Mexico.

While there are only a limited number of airports and seaports that could provide U.S. entry for the virus from overseas, the military was faced with an almost limitless number of cars, trucks and pedestrians traveling across the easily accessible, expansive border with Mexico.

In an interview with the AP, Kircher and several senior military officers from U.S. Northern Command said that since the swine flu has been far less lethal than anticipated, it has allowed the military to stop far short of the worst-case scenarios that the Pentagon prepared for in its long-range planning.

But in the event of a widespread pandemic, the Pentagon maintains standing plans to use the active-duty military as a last-resort force to help law enforcement manage quarantines, limit state-to-state travel and restrict access to government buildings.
Those plans represent "the kinds of things that the lead federal agencies might ask us to do or that we might have to do on behalf of the Department of Defense for force protection," said Air Force Brig. Gen. Tony Rock, who until recently was deputy director for operations at Northern Command.

Officials would turn to the military for those domestic duties, Rock said, only when other authorities become overburdened and request assistance.

The requests must then be evaluated and approved by top officials, such as the defense secretary or the president.

"Some of these are in extremis, and certainly wouldn't be the first tasks we would do," said Army Col. Curt Torrence, a key military planner for Northern Command. He added that they would be carried out only under catastrophic circumstances and in accordance with federal laws.

Northern Command briefing documents obtained by The Associated Press include explicit assumptions that intelligence oversight laws and the Posse Comitatus Act would remain in effect.

Under that Civil War-era act, federal troops are prohibited from performing domestic law enforcement actions such as making arrests, seizing property or searching people.

In extreme cases, however, the president can invoke the Insurrection Act, also from the Civil War, which allows the use of active-duty or National Guard troops for law enforcement.

Under the military's pandemic plan, the key goals are to defend the country, maintain the force and provide whatever support is needed to protect the national infrastructure and ensure that the government continues to function.

Rock, who recently was named commandant of the Air Command and Staff College at Maxwell Air Force Base, said states generally would turn first to police, border control officers and the National Guard under the governors' command. Those public safety officials would be the first line of defense to stem the spread of the virus through travel restrictions at the borders and along state lines or outbreak areas.
The military, however, would be prepared to aid in establishing "mass casualty" treatment sites, provide shelter for displaced persons, dispose of dead bodies and help provide postal, power, water and sewer services and food deliveries. Troops also could provide logistics, communications and other support for law enforcement and the National Guard.

The Defense Department and Northern Command have refused to publicly release the details of their operations plan for pandemic influenza. Labeled "for official use only," the plan lays out the active-duty military's six-phase response to an influenza outbreak.

In interviews, Pentagon officials repeatedly expressed concerns about alarming the public, stressing that the plan would only unfold in a crisis situation and under orders from the president.

The plan also includes measures by the Pentagon to protect its own, with the understanding that if the nation's armed services fall to the flu, it would be difficult to provide aid to those within the U.S. and defend the country in the event of a concurrent terrorist attack or other disaster.

Steps would be taken to immunize soldiers, their families, retirees and civilian workers who support the military's mission. And, if needed, access in and out of military installations would be restricted.

The military is more vulnerable than most to the spread of disease, because of its very nature. Troops live together, eat together in mess halls, sleep together in barracks and bunk together by the thousands aboard ships.

As a result, said John Pike of GlobalSecurity.org, "The military has a long and glorious association with pandemics."

Associated Press writer Pauline Jelinek contributed to this report.

On the Net:

• Defense Department: http://www.defenselink.mil

Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

[WiNaDeYo]

Just so we don't forget what lurks out there....

"As Swine Flu Wanes, U.S. Preparing for Second Wave"

http://www.reuters.com/article/domes...e=domesticNews

This article discusses closing schools, limiting public gathering, rapid vaccinations of all Americans ... get ready folks!

Peace and Good Will!

[WiNaDeYo]

Update:

"U.S. Passes Million Swine Flu Cases, Officials Say"

By DONALD G. McNEIL Jr.
Published: June 26, 2009

Swine flu has infected more than a million Americans, federal health officials said Friday, and is infecting thousands more every week even though the annual flu season is well over.

That total of those who have already been infected is “just a ballpark figure,” said Dr. Anne Schuchat, director of respiratory diseases at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, adding, “We know we’re not tracking every single one of them.”

Only a tiny fraction of those million cases have been tested, Dr. Schuchat said. The estimate is based on testing plus telephone surveys in New York City and several other locales where the new flu has hit hard.

A survey in New York City, she said, showed that almost 7 percent of those called had had flu symptoms during just three weeks in May when the flu was spreading rapidly through schools. If that percentage of the city has had it, then there have been more than 500,000 cases in the city alone, though most have been mild enough that doctors recommended nothing more than rest and fluids.

The flu has now spread to many areas of the country, Dr. Schuchat noted, and the C.D.C. has heard of outbreaks in 34 summer camps in 16 states.

About 3,000 Americans have been hospitalized, she said, and their median age is quite young, just 19. Of those, 127 have died.

The median age for deaths is somewhat higher, at 37, but that number is pushed up because while only a few elderly people catch the new flu, about 2 percent of them die as a result.

Of those who die, Dr. Schuchat said, about three-quarters have some underlying condition like morbid obesity, pregnancy, asthma, diabetes or immune system problems. Even those victims, she said, “tend to be relatively young, and I don’t think that they were thinking of themselves as ready to die.”

The new flu has now reached more than 100 countries, according to the World Health Organization. The world’s eyes are on the Southern Hemisphere, which is at the beginning of its winter, when flu spreads more rapidly. Australia, Chile and Argentina are seeing a fast spread of the virus, mostly among young people, while one of the usual seasonal flus, an H3N2, is also active.

Five American vaccine companies are working on a swine flu vaccine, Dr. Schuchat said. The C.D.C. has estimated that once the new vaccine is tested for both safety and effectiveness, no more than 60 million doses will be available by September. That means difficult decisions will have to be made about whom to give it to first.

Peace and Good Will!

[waitinginthewings]

I just don't believe these numbers......they are inflated to suit their agenda