Do you feel the need to keep your 'spiritual self' veiled in the workforce?

[Dakini]

For any of us that keep a firm foot in the mainstream world, I think we know that being in the mainstream workforce can pose a challenge. 'Should I be myself, or should I keep mySelf a secret?'

I have always gone into mainstream jobs with no talk or revealing of my essential nature. Then somewhere down the road, when trusting relationships are built, I can be more of myself - slowly. I have seen the entire departments of where I work change (for the better) as a result of just being me and letting others be true to themselves and express their own spiritual sides.

However, there are so many times that I wish we could just be fully who we are going into the mainstream. I see more and more that these days may be coming, but I have taken down my little web page before I interview for jobs so I don't get crossed off the list of candidates.

I have my own business, but things can get slow these days and I actually like to work with a lot of people and pay my bills - so I will try and get a 2 or 3 day a week job. I found myself interviewing last week, pretty much promised the job, but then did not hear back - even when I left a message. I trust this outcome, but I sense it was the fear reaction I got from one of the interviewers. Now it's not only what I say I have to watch, but it seems it's just ME that is causing fear.

I've read and believe that some people feel a quickening response in their DNA structure when they encounter certain adepts or spiritually attuned others, and just this quickening can cause within them an anxiety response that is read as "bad." So, even if you are just being present, people can get freaked out. Believe me, I'm pretty much grounded and real when I speak to people about work.

Any thoughts?

[futureyes]

dakini ... very interesting thread ...

for me this is effortless as my workplace is facilitating reiki ... but in saying that ... when i first began i ensured i spoke not of my truth either before or after client sessions ...

momentum of what is has picked up so much now that now my clients "want" to hear what i have to say ... it is INCREDIBLE!

so i work AND remain in my element, my truth ...

many of my clients are waking up like freight trains and sometimes the hazards of my work are to make sure i step out of their way ... they're travelling at lightening speed!

and so i really do feel blessed to be doing what i am ... best of both worlds ...

Interesting question... kind of timely for me. The answer is no, I really never have veiled, however simple the job has been. Sometimes it's difficult to navigate the charts. When it becomes impossible, I move on.

love

[Dakini]

I have also done work as a Reiki Master - it sounds like the instrument of you is really facilitating your clients' process. Awesome.

When I do my readings and healing sessions, I can just be my-Self. No problem here, it's in the mainstream where I watch it to certain degrees.

[Dakini]

Originally Posted by no caste

Interesting question... kind of timely for me. The answer is no, I really never have veiled, however simple the job has been. Sometimes it's difficult to navigate the charts. When it becomes impossible, I move on.

love

Oh boy, me too. I've moved on.

what is your avatar?

[Carmen]

Dakini, I don't hide myself. I guess I used to a bit. Coming from a place of Love and Acceptance of people-----of seeing only the best in them-----brings it out.

There is no opposition to Love. I don't necessarity talk about my spiritual journey to those unawakened------there has to be an invitation of some sort----to do so

I work at home so don't know how I'd handle a job interview. I could not tell an untruth, but I may leave out bits if I wasn't asked specific questions. I would probably run through the interview in my mind beforehand. Envision the outcome as I wished it to be, and leave the details to my Godself to work out. The Inner Self knows if a job would be to my advantage or not.

Love and Light

Carmen

In my last job I kept it to myself. I found that spirituality in any form doesn't fly well in the pub trade. I'm no longer involved in it thank goodness.

For me it was a case of conservation of energy. When at my first pub I let it be known, which was a mistake. It's not so much that I care what other people think (though to begin with it was- if anyone is 'finding their feet' on a path I would suggest extreme caution in who you open up to), nothing that was said dissuaded me from my path, but I found it draining having to constantly shield against negativity; snide comments and jokes from the ignorant about something that was very important and deeply personal to me.

So when I moved to my next place I kept it to myself. I established firm boundaries between my working and personal lives. I was living in the flat above the pub and sometimes members of staff would be in there and see evidence of what I did, and if they asked a question I answered it honestly, but it was very rare I was asked. It seems that my intention to keep it private was enough to keep it so, almost like they forgot the answer as soon as they left. The friends I made there knew roughly but never pushed the issue or made a big deal about it.

I keep it to myself generally- it's nobody's business but mine. If I'm asked how much I reveal depends on who I'm talking to. I'm not a big fan of the Bible but I think Jesus said something like "Cast not thy pearls before swine, lest they turn and rend ye." I think this kind of thing is what he was talking about.

[Czymra]

I don't shove it in people's face, but I wouldn't want to not be me at work.
Being at work sucks if it's all about how to make money. Gladly I have currently a very enlightened Budoka as a neighbour so I even get my share of spiritual exchange each day.
I believe that one must be bold about being one self, of course one needs to be careful too at times, but if things don't work out, you just don't belong there. Simple.

[David]

You are very lucky futureyes. In December, instead of having the typical massage, I had my first Reiki session. She is a Reiki master / medium and read to me what she was getting from me during the session. Sounds like you and her have the same ability. It was an experience to be remembered and will be searching for a teacher for me when I move back to Ohio.

[Egg]

I would be boxed, packed, shipped out and given my papers within the day if anything slightly paranormal came up in discussion and I stated my beliefs and knowledge.

is the best way to be, always.

[Rareheart]

Excellent question Dakini...I enjoyed all of the replies.

I resonate most with what Carmen wrote.
It shows unwavering trust in all that is...which is my path as well.

I would probably run through the interview in my mind beforehand. Envision the outcome as I wished it to be, and leave the details to my Godself to work out. The Inner Self knows if a job would be to my advantage or not.

The job is about the work not our personal perspectives or beliefs...
so, yes, not sharing our interests is a good thing...

unless we are in charge and don't care what the effects are... lol

i'm in that case because I'm not working for anyone...

love & heartfelts

[Dakini]

Thanks for all your interesting replies.
Well, I did hear back from the position I interviewed for...their concern was that I would want to take control and be in charge, based on my prior work history. Hm. I specifically said I didn't WANT to be in charge of anything. However, I am still being considered.

I think this door is closed, and that is ok, but I found it very interesting to hear this.

Moral is, stick with the life plan...do what I came here to do.

[futureyes]

Originally Posted by Dakini

Thanks for all your interesting replies.
Well, I did hear back from the position I interviewed for...their concern was that I would want to take control and be in charge, based on my prior work history. Hm. I specifically said I didn't WANT to be in charge of anything. However, I am still being considered.

I think this door is closed, and that is ok, but I found it very interesting to hear this.

Moral is, stick with the life plan...do what I came here to do.

[THE eXchanger]

as a former, executive in a fortune 500 company,
and, someone, who has done, a lot of consulting,
to an assortment of companies,
i can tell you, the upper levels, are quite aware of spirituality
and, the images, they are putting out there, in the public

however, in the lower levels,
like human resources,
most of the sales/accounting/and, production/transportation
levels, most of them,
clearly are NOT

i say, be who you are,
silence is the greatest weapon there is,
cause when you open your mouth,
or, let your fingers run across your keyboard wild,
you put your whole mind out of parade

somethings, are best left off your resume

if you want to get hired, make them curious

there is a lot to be said, for having your rabbit, in your hat

love/susan
the eXchanger

[Dakini]

There are circumstances which require our voices...interviews not necessarily being the place for them, of course.

I am sure that we have many stories in us of the times we have spoken out and acted in accordance with the Law and our Truth, and watched as our voices acted as a catalyst for change.

Anyone wish to share?

[Czymra]

Originally Posted by Dakini

There are circumstances which require our voices...interviews not necessarily being the place for them, of course.

I am sure that we have many stories in us of the times we have spoken out and acted in accordance with the Law and our Truth, and watched as our voices acted as a catalyst for change.

Anyone wish to share?

This question did linger with me for some reason. I think I need to clarify my statement:

What I mean is that one should not try to BE another person, speaking out trying to convince other people if not asked is another matter entirely. People will come if they're attracted and make you open up automatically.

I guess the consensus is... boldly be but weigh your words.
I know that at my workplace however, and the arrival of another wacky soul along with me has helped to brighten up the whole place which really was rather dull before.

[THE eXchanger]

be who you are...and, do it boldly !!!

employ yourself !!!

[Anchor]

I work at the sharp end of materialism in the financial services industry.

I have been in the same company a long time. It is a challenging place to work on lots of levels, but it also keeps me from having to worry about money. The universe is providing for me abundantly right now, but I dont see that going on for ever.

I have sensed a mood swing recently - I think that people think there is going to be a big recovery in the markets and people are a little more upbeat. It makes me sad, because I know that some people had started to think about preparedness who never would have before. At the same time, there have been some events like power cuts in Sydney that are almost unheard of and that has a few remembering some of the things I have said to them in the past.

I keep my "new age" and "consipiracy" beliefs pretty much underwraps and no official comment is ever made, however, I do scatter thought seeds. Some of these have taken root in the past and I am aware of people around me who are also wiser to the larger truths. Gradually I can open up to these people and the conversations (mostly outside the office) go the whole way

It is a never ending test for me to keep silent sometimes

A..

[BROOK]

I don't keep it to myself...everyone at work knows how I feel and where I'm coming from... Funny thing is now people at work are coming up to me and asking me questions about everything...the NWO, my belief in guardian angels...the law of attraction...they all come to me with what they have found out, and are letting me know they think I'm on to something
Especially the young ones. they are the most curious

[recallone]

Great thread Dakini.

What I've observed, and it sounds like you have too - is that the person doing the interview is often times less qualified to perform their duties than you are, which makes hiring you a threat to their own job security. Strength and confidence are not communicated...it's in your presence.

Likewise, the vibration that you (or any of us!) emmanate is done without words. Your energy makes a far greater impression than anything you say. When asked, I've learned to keep my answers brief. Too much information offered in conversation, without the benefit of well-researched material or a thoroughly explored and documented timeline, lessens the validity of what you're trying to convey. It also gives your ego the opportunity to rear its' ugly head in a 'look how much stuff I know!' kind of vibe, compromising the integrity of what you're saying anyways! I know, I know - I think waaaay too much. But if you put yourself into their shoes, what kind of response would prompt you to research more yourself? And when you research more yourself, how much more solid is that information in your own mind?

I've thought about this quite a bit, but only after putting myself through a considerable amount of frustration at trying to wake up people who are not ready to wake up. There's a big difference between asking a question because you want to know the answer and asking a question for the sake of starting an otherwise empty conversation (How bout them Bears?!).. sorry to all you sports fans out there, especially any Bears fans - just trying to make a point. If after pointing them in a specific direction concerning what they asked about - like suggesting they watch a documentary or something, THEN I'm more than happy to go as deep as they want...on the subject that they themselves have actually looked into.

I think it almost has to be approached like a sale, unfortunately. How are you going to sell them on the idea of challenging everything they know? Keep in mind all of the avenues by which they have been programmed up until that point. Your energy is the point of attraction. What you know and feel is not something that's easily communicated. It's arrived at by personally taking the steps that lead you to those "Ah-ha!" moments. For me, I feel it's better to offer other links to follow or videos to watch before getting too much into it. Better chance that they'll start to get hungry for more truth, and you maintain your 'sane' status amongst your co-workers.

[Humble Janitor]

Not really. I have however mentioned a few times that we may have the technology to fix all of our global ills in at least one of my classes. Of course, the instructor dismisses it without much of an effort.

[Luminari]

Originally Posted by Dakini

I've read and believe that some people feel a quickening response in their DNA structure when they encounter certain adepts or spiritually attuned others, and just this quickening can cause within them an anxiety response that is read as "bad." So, even if you are just being present, people can get freaked out. Believe me, I'm pretty much grounded and real when I speak to people about work.

Any thoughts?

YES, I agree. We are helping them without them even knowing it, both co-workers and customers, by transmuting their energy.

Raising the vibration.. They often pick up that you are different/strange/mysterious/deep/intense but the fear response is quickly changed once you look them in the eye and communicate. As your soundwaves hit them and they tune in to your frequency things change towards the positive as long as you greet them with love and understanding.

[Neo]

Interesting I find this thread at this point in time, and here's a slightly different spin on it.

I lost my job thanks to the economic crisis and in a way it was just a massive sigh of relief. I hated the job, hated the greed I saw from others, but above all I hated having to waste 8 hours a day spending precious thinking and energy on what I believe to be meaningless rubbish.

I never could hide my true self and nor would I even want to. I accepted along time ago that people think I'm weird or 'out there', just dont care anymore. I dont even think I care if I am ever employed again, sick of playing the game or doing what everyone else thinks I should be doing.

The last job interview I went to I told the employer that 'really, I want to make films more than anything'. The job position was a truck driver and naturally my 'true' aspirations were not taken too well and I didnt get the job.

Sorry for the long reply but I do think that the time for masquerading should be over for all of us. Be true to yourself .

[Connecting with Sauce]

Originally Posted by Neo

Interesting I find this thread at this point in time, and here's a slightly different spin on it.

I lost my job thanks to the economic crisis and in a way it was just a massive sigh of relief. I hated the job, hated the greed I saw from others, but above all I hated having to waste 8 hours a day spending precious thinking and energy on what I believe to be meaningless rubbish.

I never could hide my true self and nor would I even want to. I accepted along time ago that people think I'm weird or 'out there', just dont care anymore. I dont even think I care if I am ever employed again, sick of playing the game or doing what everyone else thinks I should be doing.

The last job interview I went to I told the employer that 'really, I want to make films more than anything'. The job position was a truck driver and naturally my 'true' aspirations were not taken too well and I didnt get the job.

Sorry for the long reply but I do think that the time for masquerading should be over for all of us. Be true to yourself .

I'm in agreement with Neo, but still employeed… currently! In Automotive engineering.

>"to waste 8 hours a day spending precious thinking and energy on what I believe to be meaningless rubbish."

ditto... I work in powertrain engineering and I recently sent a note to my CEO and Powertrain manager with regards 'Stan Meyers' and free energy information sprouting up on the internet and how we should be investigating it because if it does turn out to be true (which I'm convinced of) if we aren't 1st of close to market we will not sell any vehicles period. Funnily enough I've not heard from them

I'm considering alternatives but use the time I do have to research this stufdf and raising awareness of what I can about what's going down and doing the minimum amount required to not get dismissed… However If a VR package did come along however I will be first in the queue.

I do not try to hide mySelf except from my supervisor. Some people I send direct links to and relay some of the stuff on here I find.