Palin Interview by ABC's Charlie Gibson

[eagleman]

Just found a very informative link to an article on Rense entitled ABC Charles Gibson Targets Jeff Rense Voters In Smearing Gov. Palin

I feel strongly that the 2008 election is perhaps the most important presidential race in our history.

That said, I find myself in a real quandry. I've been a republican, democrat and independent over the years since 1964 and I HAVE NOT made up my mind about Obama or McCain.

I found Wilcock's recent interview by Kerry and Bill to be really great although I have not been won over by his love affair with Obama. Each must deeply go within with discernment as to whether to vote for Obama, McCain, someone else or not vote at all.

The article on Gibson, Rense and Palin is worth pondering as events heat up.

http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2008/...eff-rense.html

[StClair]

Wilcock's love affair with Obama.
That s quite a nice way of stating it....

Well, you know what I predicted, right? OK and my prediction seems to come about precisely because people like Gibson invest energy and time in smearing someone who at heart actually is somewhat Libertarian if you think about it. The article you posted is indeed worth pondering.

And guess who Bill Clintón will vote for - Obama or Palin?

Anyway Obama is in meltdown. Hey I cannot vote, I am European... and one could say it is none of my business, but maybe it is a little bit l our business in Europe too, so may I help you in narrowing down your options?

Bolshevik Obama is backed and handled by who again?

Zbigniev Brzezinski and the Trilateralist Lords of London bankers who like to plunder Eurasia and cause a mess in Russia, according to the senile plans of ZB, which leaves you with two choices:

Palin or no vote.

Notice how I worded the choices
And I have no love affair with Palin
I just point out the obvious shift...

Keep smiling :-)

Peace

Michael St.Clair

[dolphin]

i would disagree michael....palin is NOT a choice that is acceptable. she would just be a puppet for the bush regime, aka illuminati, etc. BOTH obama and palin are backed by the "powers that be" ...just a regurgitation of the status quo.

i just watched palin's interview. she's completely incompetant and naive re. world politics. she's for preemptive strike against a country, even though she skirted her way from answering after he asked 3 times...hello!! iraq war once again. and more innocent lives are going to be slaughtered, but this time in iran, pakistan, and afghanistan.

there is no vote that is legitamite!... ron paul is the only acceptable choice, except we don't have a democracy here, it's a dictatorial republic and the majority of americans are sheeple!

In my huble opinion, niether are worthy. Needless to say I am a Ron Paul supporter. Let me give you an example of why: The first law of the universe is FREE WILL. He professes free markets/ free liberty/ free choice and the support of the constitution. I could easily stop there and shall because no one is truly allowed to excercise it nor has the capacity to at any level. That goes for Barack and McCain (to limited degrees), We supposedly had (have) a Constitution in which we are represented through a republic (Congress) when the majority is corrupted through selfishness and nothing will ever function in accordance to free will and unselfishness. Where David is correct in my opinion is that the Law of One (Ra Material) clearly states this.

Basically humanity as a whole has lost its way from true spiritual connection. Instead of inside out, it is outside in. In all forms. this in my opinion is the battle we are all facing in our own consciousness as well as our collective consciousness. Thus it is reflected in the political arena as we look to those that we call our supposed leaders. We do not have "Leaders" , that is old 2-D energy carried over. I. E The Alpha male in animals. We must thus discard this Leadership ideal and create youself as a leader without service to self.

Love

Nelson

[eagleman]

Michael

Wow, I was pleasantly surprised that you were the first to respond to my posting of Palin's so-called interview by slick Charlie Gibson. Frankly the interview will only draw more voters to Palin. She is TOUGH and will not be intimidated, a fact which sent Gibson into fits!

I was very intrigued by your comments of President Palin several days ago. I've read Zen of Stars and just got Light-Seeds - looking forward to reading it.

I've known all about the conspiracies since 1964 and prior to Palin I was not going to vote having been very opposed to the Iraq War etc. McCain's selection of Palin changed my mind.

The democrats took the house in 2006 to end the War - they did nothing and Obama NEVER took any lead to demand the house end the war, which proves he has NO Leadership in dealing with Global Issues.

In spite of the constant slander, what the liberal media HATE the most about Palin is they KNOW She IS An American Female Patriot, a subtle fact that the American People are responding too, whether they realize it or not.

The Democrats do not know how to deal with this New Type of Political Femininity that puts Country First. The feminist Left, which hates the United States is having Fits of RAGE because Hillary was not selected! How dare the Republicans!

I will NOW vote for McCain/Palin because I DO NOT trust Obama and his slick talk. McCain is a Maverick, in spite of the Democrats trying to tie him to Bush. His First decision to select Sarah Palin is PROOF that he has put America first, something that would never have happened with Hillary.

I strongly suspect that Hillary Clinton will attempt to face off against Prsident Palin in 2012, but by then it will be too late!

[msv]

From what I know about Palin and Obama, although Palin is slightly and older soul than Obama, spiritually Palin is reative to her imprinting and not at all self aware. Obama on the other hand came in for a reason, is the most self aware candidate since Lincoln and is playing his cards very carefully. He might not know all the details of what he is being asked to do, but he will in short order.

[dolphin]

eagleman, you're very misguided. you don't understand that through palin's entire interview she stated she would do whatever is necessary to protect america. ie. attacking other country's to proctect us from islamic extremist. she has no clue as to who are the true agressors of this planet, including the job on 911.

we are all connected on the planet. no country's citizenship, nationality has the right to invade another country for it's own interest (although the bigger scheme is of course the Elite rulers, their interests using "america's" interest as a guise) ! an american life is no better or worse than another citizen of the planet. we are all EQUAL. our country has systematically imposed "our will" upon others! and w Palin, it will continue.

[Love/Light 13]

Eagleman-


Do you believe lame-cherry's blogs that support Larry Sinclair's claims with regards to Obama? I find Sinclair to be a whacked-out guy who has a lawyer that walks around in a kilt because he says he is "well hung". Looking forward to your response.

[StClair]

Fellow friends
if my sources are correct Palin was by end of 2007 the preferred VP pick of RON PAUL, who is the man I would back all the way, so does that tell you something??

Look here is the rationale
http://Light-Seeds.com/Palin.html

She is inexperienced? Hmm how so? Hmmm... this translates to she is not a mind controlled elite monkey.

Again I am not here to defend her honor, and I thourougly disagree with some (if not all ) of her personal "beliefs" but these are not my business but her own, and from where I stand in Europe, and I have many "patriot friends" in the USA who had asked me to stay in the US for the meltdown, she is a hunter and fisher and I like that. I think she is a closet Libertarian and patriot and she hates everything about the establishment.

Is she ambitious? Yes. Driven? Totally, thats why slick McCain unveiled her like a birthday cake trophy on his 72nd birthday. he is no fool, and he too hates the fellows he will replace. Try think it through quietly.

And she cleaned house as best as she could in Alaska. In fact one could say she has more experience than all the other three fellows in the race.

The rest -- good manners and all plus correct world view -- someone will HOPEFULLY teach her in time before she will be handed the "nuclear football". Maybe someone sends her my book and my predictions...

THINK about the Karmic sling back... Bushes outed Gore. Brzezinski's machine outed the Clintons, and here comes Palin from Alaska with a "moose hide named Obama" on her back and walks into Central Command. And McCain? He sails off into the sunset enjoying a well deserved rest...

Have you seen Battle star Galactica? The team Palin-McCain remind me of the two funny ones in Battlestar Galactica.

You have to have a laugh guys...
No script writer could make this up.


Keep smiling, it is only entertainment after all
Peace
M StC

[eagleman]

Originally Posted by Love/Light 13

Eagleman-


Do you believe lame-cherry's blogs that support Larry Sinclair's claims with regards to Obama? I find Sinclair to be a whacked-out guy who has a lawyer that walks around in a kilt because he says he is "well hung". Looking forward to your response.

Love/Light 13

NO. I don't buy Sinclair's claims. I was only responding to lame-cherry's article on the Palin interview by Gibson.

[eagleman]

Originally Posted by dolphin

eagleman, you're very misguided. you don't understand that through palin's entire interview she stated she would do whatever is necessary to protect america. ie. attacking other country's to proctect us from islamic extremist. she has no clue as to who are the true agressors of this planet, including the job on 911.

we are all connected on the planet. no country's citizenship, nationality has the right to invade another country for it's own interest (although the bigger scheme is of course the Elite rulers, their interests using "america's" interest as a guise) ! an american life is no better or worse than another citizen of the planet. we are all EQUAL. our country has systematically imposed "our will" upon others! and w Palin, it will continue.

Dolphin

Misguided - hardly. Listen, how many in the US Congress know WHO the real aggressor's are outside and inside the USA? And NONE of our representatives or Senators has EVER told the people what's going on behind-the-scenes.

Even Ron Paul goes along with the nonsense that a few arabs took down the WTC. I suspect that 9/11 was a result of some very powerful ET weapons that the Illuminati has - buidlings simply do not turn to dust!!

It takes, as you probably know, a great deal of thought and research to know who is behind the United States' on-going decline since they killed JFK. Palin is her own thinker and her roots are Anti-Masonic.

Virtually unknown to the American people about Governor Palin is her family genealogy relating her to one of the most important factions of the American Revolutionary War led by Major-General William Heath, the last surviving Major-General of the Revolutionary Army.

Though Major-General Heath was lauded for his actions during the battles of Lexington and Concord in April, 1775, he was never trusted by the American Revolutionary War Commander, and later President, George Washington, and who utilized General Heath sparingly for the remainder of the war.

General Washington’s mistrust of General Heath was reported to have been because Heath was not a member of the Freemason Secret Society which Washington and almost all of the American and British War Commanders were members of, and which many still assert maintain a secret leadership role in governing the United States.

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1137.htm


I agree with you that everyone on the planet is equal and no nation, including the US has the right to invade and dominate another i.e. Iraq. But the Iraq policy came from the dark forces that also run Wall Street and the Fed. Those policies were dictated to the puppet Bush.

Palin is not a CLONE of Bush/Cheney. Look Bush/Cheney HAD their time - their mad dream of a NWO is dead and McCain/Palin will bury it. Don't be surprised when McCain/Palin win the election that they will dissolve the FED.

[unlimited mind]

Originally Posted by dolphin

i would disagree michael....palin is NOT a choice that is acceptable. she would just be a puppet for the bush regime, aka illuminati, etc. BOTH obama and palin are backed by the "powers that be" ...just a regurgitation of the status quo.

i just watched palin's interview. she's completely incompetant and naive re. world politics. she's for preemptive strike against a country, even though she skirted her way from answering after he asked 3 times...hello!! iraq war once again. and more innocent lives are going to be slaughtered, but this time in iran, pakistan, and afghanistan.

there is no vote that is legitamite!... ron paul is the only acceptable choice, except we don't have a democracy here, it's a dictatorial republic and the majority of americans are sheeple!

we are in a pickle here aren't we. it is a very good thing that we all understand that we are conscious beings in this forum. it is quite refreshing.

i have had to break this whole thing down a few times to get myself more centered about it all. i don't own a TV so i am pretty much in control of what comes into my awareness via media.

we know a few things for absolute certainty:
1. the whole election system of our "democracy' is quite faulty and now more than ever, more geared towards corporate needs and crazy amounts of money to further plunder the resources of this planet.

2. both parties publicly show the amount of money that is being spent on campaigns. it is a crazy amount, and is celebrated in the mass media. and for what? advertising to the people that have TV's, (which not coincidentally operate at the same frequency as the mid brain). there may be some correlation between these two things explaining how this can even be tolerated by the population in the now bankrupt US. yes, you can call it mind control, but you bought the TV.

3. people are becoming more frustrated with this stuff, much more so over the past few elections. there is zippo trust in the system any longer.

all of this disconnected energy is very powerful in controlling disconnected people. because WE are aware of what the big picture looks like, we take a bit of charge off of the issue, but then we make the mistake of giving it back because of our attachment to the outcome.

it doesn't really matter who "wins" the election. it is up to the 'people' to take back their power and use it to honor their innate freedom.

this all seems quite divinely planned to me in the grand scheme of things, because this is what we, collectively, are all involved with on a more spiritual level. collective unity.

we are moving towards it. enjoy the ride, as they say.

[StClair]

eagleman

Hey thanks a lot for the research, I did not know that one about the Major general, usually I am well informed very fast. And I sparingly and only in summary say what I know. This fits the theme.

Also her husband, for it is worth, is in my view a respectable fellow with Native ties. I really do OBJECTIVELY not see how anyone in their right minds can attack the Palin's and I agree with what you havee shown so far.

I do not believe she really backs any wars, and it is sad she has to see her own son go get messed up in Uranium Depletion zones.

This is all very insteresting at a personal psychological as well as at a spiritual global level...

Like you, it is my secret hope, wish and prayer (and that of many of my friends and clients around the world) that the Palin-McCain team dissolves the FED on impact on January 21st 2009. Remember though what happened to the last guy who tried that. JFK.

We will see clearer when we see whom the potential McCain administration will name into the key posts, this will tell us more clearly if our hopes are founded or if we too are wishful thinkers.

The vision of the FED gone is refreshing and gives reason for hope...

I am very positive that the day McCain unveiled her to the world, a shockwave was sent through the elite houses on this planet, and they know their days are counted.

Also I was personally friends with a guy who knew McCain in his navy pilot days real well, and that friend told me only good things about McCain, when we had all written the man off in 2002.

If my info is further correct we await to see what the Submarine naval people will do, as they are usually aligned strongly with what we know worldwide as "the good guys" on this planet.

Anyway it will be an interesting few months ahead now, and much is possible now that seemed impossible a few weeks ago. Things have changed in imperceptible ways and they can change radically after the sun sets on Washington DC on January 21st 2009.

That day the sun sets in Aquarius, on the birth position of Palin's Mercury.

Well this is a very opaque game that is going on now, and we wont know until its over....

What I feel happened now in hindsight is this: The "Republican" machine never thought they would get any one of their own to succeed the Bushes Junta years, and so they let whoever wanted to fry themselves run. McCain seemingly toddled along for a year or two, while Ron Paul set up his machine. Then McCain got his nomination and everyone siad "So what?"

Then the unthinkeable happened and the idiotic masterminds of Obama wiped out Clinton, and stuck him with Biden, and the game was over.

At that moment, either Cindy McCain or Karl Rove or someone real smart proposed to McCain who was just going thru the motions to bring in Palin who was ideologically very close to Ron Paul, so that the Independent Patriot Libertarian block would veer towards McCain and away from Obama. OK maybe as I suspect based on remote viewer type Looking Glass knowing that a woman President is in office before 2012.

The alternative was unthinkeable,
McCain-Lieberman vs Obama-Biden-Brzezinksi ???
That was like a no choice


Here some more links proving the Ron Paul-Palin link

http://anchorage.craigslist.org/pol/829005182.html
and
http://www.etherzone.com/2008/scall090408.shtml


Peace
and be well there
Michael St.Clair

[dolphin]

thanks eagleman, you're actually quite erudite on this. i didn't know her geneology. next time before i go on a diatribe, i'll do my research as you have.

a non-masonic potential president. that's a new one!...but how is it possible that McCain could've sprung Palin as the VP, without the approval and consent of the Elites who run the presidency? w so much at stake in the game for them, how would they let McCain do this?

[dolphin]

from eagleman's link:

It should also be noted, and as we had previously reported on in our August 18th report titled “Putin Orders ‘Nuclear Noose’ Put Around US”, that the former US Secretary of State, Henry Kissinger, had previously stated to Prime Minister Putin that the likelihood of Senator John McCain ascending to the presidency of the United States was ‘all but assured’, and with the failing health of Senator McCain it all but assures Governor Palin will soon be President of the United States.

(michael, you may be correct once again on who will win)

[StClair]

dolphin

that is the maverick factor in McCain and the inner circle around him. I dont know the answer either.

Maybe the "decision" or consensual agreement among the elites had been that Obama was in, ok and that no one took McCain seriously anyway. In that sense McCain was "off the reservation."

So he did whatever he felt was best, and his inner circle told him that Lieberman was "NoNo", and so it did happen as you can see, and notice they sprung it on his 72nd birthday and hours after Obama s Hollywood show with Greek styrofoam columns, before the mass media got a chance to spin the polls. I think it was superbely neat. Maybe a zen master advises McCain?

Look as we said... the unexpected is possible, that is what makes America still a great country at heart. It is up to the Americans now to wrench the steering wheel away from the elites. It is at this point doable, ok.

As to Putin, he would tell kissinger kindly to go fry an egg.

[Love/Light 13]

Michael thank you for your positive and uplifting words about the potential for the American Dream to still exist in these crazy times. You and I differ on whom will be the true "change" candidate, but we are on the same path for sure.

The problem with the McCain-Palin ticket is that Palin will not be appointing the administration if McCain is elected. Senator McCain admits he does not know much about the economy, and the unbelievably dangerous Phil Gramm. I believe while Palin may be somewhat of a maverick (even though her neo-con-like social values say otherwise), she will not be able to truly clean house in the Executive Branch. Her bully-like attitude with her former brother-in-law is troubling as well. Palin's husband also has ties to BP, although the extent of those connections may or may not be troublesome.

I believe Americans such as Caroline Kennedy are pure at heart, and see something in Obama from up close that could be "Manchurian-like", however I believe he is a man who astrologically, is very much in favor of enacting great change within the confines of the current system. Obama has constantly refered back to the Constitution and the Bill of rights, and I am sure does not view the FED as part of the true system. With that said, i have hope and YES WE CAN.............whoever WE may be!

[Love/Light 13]

eagleman-

Thank you for clarifying your stance on Larry Sinclair. That guy seems nuts to me! Why is it that you are willing to accept lame-cherry's argument about the Gibson interview, being that the blogger is so willing to accept Sinclair's fraudulent claims? It has been my view that any articles posted on Rense.com by lame-cherry are 99.9% part of an Obama smear campaign, and I would be hesitant to trust anything from that site. Just my opinion, hope to hear back!!


may wisdom lead compassion.............

[Love/Light 13]

Obama has not spoken out publicly about the Federal Reserve, and doing so would be political suicide for him before the elections. Ron Paul is clearly a genius on monetary policy, and I hope he remains active and dedicated to the greater good.

The Federal Reserve is a private banking conglomerate that has bankrupted the US by printing imaginary money out of no where, causing the collapse of the dollar. Whether or not Obama is "awake" to the real problems is still up in the air.

The Constitution explicity states that only Congress shall be given the right to print money. Thomas Jefferson warned that a private, centralized banking system would be the end of the United States of America. He was right, but we didn't listen............

[Frank Samuel]

Palin religious affiliation is evangelical pentecostal. The religious fevor of this church saids that everything is preordaine by God. The war in Iraq is God's will,the war in Afghanistan is Gods will. Dooms day is Gods will . I'm sorry but this narrow minded viewpoint is to dangerous. By the way a VP according to McCain has very little value in as far as the decision making process of the comander in chief. So who are we kidding with this astrolagical , hocus pocus.
Lets get real I want to see an end to this war. Irregardless of what many so called experts are predictting. I mean no disrespect but if you have any family members in Iraq or Afghanistan I want to see this war end. Obama saids 2 yrs. McCain said within 4 to 8 yrs. What is your choice ?Lets keep killing children in Iraq and Afghanistan and yes by the way lets go to war with Iran and Russia while we are at it. I forgot this is God's will according to Palin.

[Frank Samuel]

Hey sorry guys that I when off the deep end I'm just tire of this senseless
war. In all fairness looking after 5 children and a grand child on the way I do not know how Palin said yes to the VP position. Wow she must have nerves of steel. And yes she looks hot guys. However war is never God's will as her son will soon find out. My prayers are with him to keep him safe. Palin may God's love and wisdom illuminate your journey . My apologies Michael on my ranmpage, nothing personal.

[Alysse]

I just love this thread. I can't read it fast enough...back to it. BTW, I think she's strong, courageous and Margaret Thatcher in training.