The ET Question ? - Page 2

RSF · 11-01-2008, 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grego

Hey thanks for all the information and opinions guys. It has helped me get a clearer picture on what is happening and who the aliens really are. cheers!

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Hey Grego, how 'bout considering sharing your opinion on your thread after reading the thoughts of other PC/PA Members?

RSF

Operator · 11-01-2008, 05:49 AM

Hi all,

This is a quite interesting piece of info:
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/study...n03jun03.shtml

This one also:
http://www.exopolitics.org/Report-ET%20Motivations.htm

Cheers

FrostyMcunicron · 11-01-2008, 05:59 AM

aliens are real, this is sooo 1990's, get over it so we can move on & investigate.

seekntruth · 11-03-2008, 12:27 AM

Another interesting explanation of the extraterrestrial agenda is presented by Marshall Vian Summers at the Allies of Humanity website (www.alliesofhumanity.org)

It's definitely worth checking out!

Kelphi · 11-03-2008, 12:54 AM

"Can't pick and choose". Man if I had a nickel every time I mentioned that to a bible hater.

Truth is known by its narrowness. Not its broadness.

ET's would have you believe that all paths lead to the same truth. It keeps you comfortable so as not to question anything.

firefly · 11-03-2008, 01:44 AM

Iv'e watched the the video's on youtube regarding aliens and underground bases by Phil Schnieder and also Bill Cooper. Their experiences are not encouraging when you refer to good ET's. I think Phil mentioned there was only one ET that the US gov. was working with. But that was way back in the 50's. A contract was made between the US gov and the reptilian and grays to exchange weapons tech for animal and human experiments. Has anyone else watched those video's and if so, what is your response? I can't imagine a benevolent ET giving us tech weapons so we can kill each other more efficiently.

KathyT · 11-03-2008, 03:41 AM

“A contract was made between the US gov and the reptilian and grays to exchange weapons tech for animal and human experiments.”

This is a major civil rights and criminal abuse. Our US gov and/or responsible parties need to be exposed and prosecuted.

“I can't imagine a benevolent ET giving us tech weapons so we can kill each other more efficiently.”

I agree.

Us humans look upon earth animals as a food source, as a labor source, and as pets. I kind of think ET’s (advanced races), look upon humans in a similar manner, a lower species. Which is why descriptions of abductions sound like they’re rather insensitive of how they treat us. We carve on mice and dogs in laboratories. We, humanity, are in need to real, accurate evidence of what they may be doing to us in their laboratories. Pictures and videos would be nice.

But can there be a number of alien races who only want to help us? It’s very possible. And I hope so.

But the question arises, why haven’t they outright contacted us? Like, take over a TV transmission, and broadcast their concrete plan to help. Like, place their huge crafts where we all could see them (with protection). There could be many answers to that: 1) there aren’t enough of them to guarantee their safety when making outright contact, 2) they could be facing other galactic problems, e.g. other aliens don’t want them interfering, and 3) they already know our earth nation’s militaries are out to fight them, and 4) other.

It would be a big challenge for them to make successful contact, I would think. It may take many of us extending a welcoming hand. Have we done that yet? I don’t think so. Maybe, we, as members outside of our governments, should begin a collective plan to welcome contact!

Grego · 11-03-2008, 05:21 AM

ok, ill give you my opinion on the subject. I am still conflicted with alot of the information. For one i defintly believe aliens have been messing around with humans for along time now, they might have even created us. From my research the idea of a reptilian race has been around for a long time. even looking into people who experienced reptilians or cosmic serpents from taking psychodelic shamanic drugs. So when david wilcox comes out and says there arent any reptillians, im confused. the closest i got to someone who i feel is speaking the truth is alex collier but im still to paranoid personally to believe anyone. i just wanted to point out the conflicting information that project camelot is pointing out there. Honestly i dont believe the time travel roswell story... but it doesnt really matter what i believe does it. If time travel is at all possible, then it has already happend, you know what i mean.

RSF · 11-06-2008, 02:07 PM

It seems to me EBEs are getting more difficult to deny and more emphasis is toward what the reason or reasons are as to why their here?
I'm a little more excited reading that Podesta will be part of Pres Elect - Obama's transition team as, Podesta was the (former Clinton Chief of Staff)guy who spoke out-loud about wanting information released re: the UFO problem not long after Clinton's last day in office.

Podesta's statement was both televised (CNN) and a written transcript was available (see CNN below). Podesta, was especially interested in information being released on the Kecksburg Incident.

John Podesta served as Chief of Staff to President Clinton, see:
http://www.ufoevidence.org/researchers/detail94.htm

John Podesta, UFO disclosure excerpt at Presss Club, see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2Sz-MgoFos

John Podesta: CNN
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/TECH/sp...2/ufo.records/

RSF

Edit: Sorry, after posting the above I noticed the thread: "White House Cheif of staff for UFO disclosure on Obamas team? " in the Ufology section. I would have posted this there had I seen it first.

Operator · 11-06-2008, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSF

John Podesta served as Chief of Staff to President Clinton, see:
http://www.ufoevidence.org/researchers/detail94.htm

Hi RSF,

Thanks for the info ... but what makes you think it will be different this time ?
Apparently he had the opportunity earlier ....

Cheers

RSF · 11-06-2008, 02:33 PM

I don't know that anything will come out through Podesta under Pres Elect Obama?, but have the feeling while serving at the level he did in the Clinton Admin, he may have been under the National Security Oath which may have prevented him from talking until out of office?

I'd suppose that all around him now are pretty-clear as to his serious effort to get official disclosure over the years. One thing seems certain, the UFO problem will be number 4632 on Obama's list of things to look into.

RSF

freespirit · 11-06-2008, 05:50 PM

The ET question needs taking mainstream and across the board.Your very lucky in the US because topics of this nature are easily discussed, Recently in the UK a police helicopter attempted to chase a UFO other the Bristol channel this prompted our feeble media a brief romance with the subject (green cartoon aliens and the word Martian somewhere in the story) this romance lasted a few days sold a few newspapers then back to the football and the oh so fantastic Celebes and they oh so fantastic life’s and not to forget the politicians.
The Disclosure Project - Home Page http://www.disclosureproject.org/
This for me has been the best effort so far ins terms of a concerted effort, also the Vatican seem to be positioning its self on the chessboard, John podesta has been cited amongst others in the NY Times for the role of Chief Of Staff(pro disclosure).Japanese parliament recently discussed what to do if a ufo invaded they air spaceDefense Minister troubled over legal issues if UFO arrives - Japan News Review http://www.japannewsreview.com/polit...20page_id=3567
we live in interesting times eh blossom

freespirit

Antaletriangle · 11-06-2008, 05:58 PM

Good thread-i am starting to think that all E.T.'s are here to help in ways we can't comprehend on a physical level-this is a spiritual matter.
For example an idea could be that reptilians/greys are here to test us in how we behave in the face of adversity with each other.There is nothing as in good or evil it's a matter of your perceptions.We have made the decision to be here in this density now to learn and help each other and the planet in someway-maybe the different aspects of the spiritual alien are ultimately to help us evolve and it's how we perceive their actions towards ourselves in how it's translated.
Could the greys be part of a hybridisation in the physical realm to engineer new 'containers'/bodies for any incarnations that maybe required for those of us who don't make the transition to the higher densities and in so doing providing a new home for our souls whilst we need to learn more for our spiritual benefit?
Are indeed the E.T.'s here to observe and translate our spiritual behaviour through a physical manifestation called 'life' to entities that are on a higher evolutionary plane;to debate whether we make the transition individually.I think it's wise to fear not because at the end of the road we travel we will all eventually meet with the source.Some it will take longer and some a shorter time to get there.
I'm fed up with using 'Shanksie's pony' (walking) and hopefully am trying to hitch a lift in an Aston martin!lol.
Hence being on this forum lol.

11-01-2008, 05:49 AM	#27
Operator Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Caribbean Posts: 375	Re: The ET Question ? Hi all, This is a quite interesting piece of info: http://educate-yourself.org/cn/study...n03jun03.shtml This one also: http://www.exopolitics.org/Report-ET%20Motivations.htm Cheers

11-01-2008, 05:59 AM	#28
FrostyMcunicron Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: a box in the inner city w. a slight chance of suburbia New Jersey Posts: 160	Re: The ET Question ? aliens are real, this is sooo 1990's, get over it so we can move on & investigate.

11-03-2008, 12:27 AM	#29
seekntruth Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 78	Re: The ET Question ? Another interesting explanation of the extraterrestrial agenda is presented by Marshall Vian Summers at the Allies of Humanity website (www.alliesofhumanity.org) It's definitely worth checking out!

11-03-2008, 12:54 AM	#30
Kelphi Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 107	Re: The ET Question ? "Can't pick and choose". Man if I had a nickel every time I mentioned that to a bible hater. Truth is known by its narrowness. Not its broadness. ET's would have you believe that all paths lead to the same truth. It keeps you comfortable so as not to question anything.

11-03-2008, 01:44 AM	#31
firefly Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Byron Bay Australia Posts: 79	Re: The ET Question ? Iv'e watched the the video's on youtube regarding aliens and underground bases by Phil Schnieder and also Bill Cooper. Their experiences are not encouraging when you refer to good ET's. I think Phil mentioned there was only one ET that the US gov. was working with. But that was way back in the 50's. A contract was made between the US gov and the reptilian and grays to exchange weapons tech for animal and human experiments. Has anyone else watched those video's and if so, what is your response? I can't imagine a benevolent ET giving us tech weapons so we can kill each other more efficiently.

11-03-2008, 03:41 AM	#32
KathyT Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: America Posts: 427	Re: The ET Question ? “A contract was made between the US gov and the reptilian and grays to exchange weapons tech for animal and human experiments.” This is a major civil rights and criminal abuse. Our US gov and/or responsible parties need to be exposed and prosecuted. “I can't imagine a benevolent ET giving us tech weapons so we can kill each other more efficiently.” I agree. Us humans look upon earth animals as a food source, as a labor source, and as pets. I kind of think ET’s (advanced races), look upon humans in a similar manner, a lower species. Which is why descriptions of abductions sound like they’re rather insensitive of how they treat us. We carve on mice and dogs in laboratories. We, humanity, are in need to real, accurate evidence of what they may be doing to us in their laboratories. Pictures and videos would be nice. But can there be a number of alien races who only want to help us? It’s very possible. And I hope so. But the question arises, why haven’t they outright contacted us? Like, take over a TV transmission, and broadcast their concrete plan to help. Like, place their huge crafts where we all could see them (with protection). There could be many answers to that: 1) there aren’t enough of them to guarantee their safety when making outright contact, 2) they could be facing other galactic problems, e.g. other aliens don’t want them interfering, and 3) they already know our earth nation’s militaries are out to fight them, and 4) other. It would be a big challenge for them to make successful contact, I would think. It may take many of us extending a welcoming hand. Have we done that yet? I don’t think so. Maybe, we, as members outside of our governments, should begin a collective plan to welcome contact!

11-03-2008, 05:21 AM	#33
Grego Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 5	Re: The ET Question ? ok, ill give you my opinion on the subject. I am still conflicted with alot of the information. For one i defintly believe aliens have been messing around with humans for along time now, they might have even created us. From my research the idea of a reptilian race has been around for a long time. even looking into people who experienced reptilians or cosmic serpents from taking psychodelic shamanic drugs. So when david wilcox comes out and says there arent any reptillians, im confused. the closest i got to someone who i feel is speaking the truth is alex collier but im still to paranoid personally to believe anyone. i just wanted to point out the conflicting information that project camelot is pointing out there. Honestly i dont believe the time travel roswell story... but it doesnt really matter what i believe does it. If time travel is at all possible, then it has already happend, you know what i mean.

11-06-2008, 02:07 PM	#34
RSF Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 226	Re: The ET Question ? It seems to me EBEs are getting more difficult to deny and more emphasis is toward what the reason or reasons are as to why their here? I'm a little more excited reading that Podesta will be part of Pres Elect - Obama's transition team as, Podesta was the (former Clinton Chief of Staff)guy who spoke out-loud about wanting information released re: the UFO problem not long after Clinton's last day in office. Podesta's statement was both televised (CNN) and a written transcript was available (see CNN below). Podesta, was especially interested in information being released on the Kecksburg Incident. John Podesta served as Chief of Staff to President Clinton, see: http://www.ufoevidence.org/researchers/detail94.htm John Podesta, UFO disclosure excerpt at Presss Club, see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2Sz-MgoFos John Podesta: CNN http://archives.cnn.com/2002/TECH/sp...2/ufo.records/ RSF Edit: Sorry, after posting the above I noticed the thread: "White House Cheif of staff for UFO disclosure on Obamas team? " in the Ufology section. I would have posted this there had I seen it first. Last edited by RSF; 11-06-2008 at 02:20 PM.

11-06-2008, 02:33 PM	#36
RSF Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 226	Re: The ET Question ? I don't know that anything will come out through Podesta under Pres Elect Obama?, but have the feeling while serving at the level he did in the Clinton Admin, he may have been under the National Security Oath which may have prevented him from talking until out of office? I'd suppose that all around him now are pretty-clear as to his serious effort to get official disclosure over the years. One thing seems certain, the UFO problem will be number 4632 on Obama's list of things to look into. RSF

11-06-2008, 05:50 PM	#37
freespirit Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: leeds, uk Posts: 57	Re: The ET Question ? The ET question needs taking mainstream and across the board.Your very lucky in the US because topics of this nature are easily discussed, Recently in the UK a police helicopter attempted to chase a UFO other the Bristol channel this prompted our feeble media a brief romance with the subject (green cartoon aliens and the word Martian somewhere in the story) this romance lasted a few days sold a few newspapers then back to the football and the oh so fantastic Celebes and they oh so fantastic life’s and not to forget the politicians. The Disclosure Project - Home Page http://www.disclosureproject.org/ This for me has been the best effort so far ins terms of a concerted effort, also the Vatican seem to be positioning its self on the chessboard, John podesta has been cited amongst others in the NY Times for the role of Chief Of Staff(pro disclosure).Japanese parliament recently discussed what to do if a ufo invaded they air spaceDefense Minister troubled over legal issues if UFO arrives - Japan News Review http://www.japannewsreview.com/polit...20page_id=3567 we live in interesting times eh blossom freespirit

11-06-2008, 05:58 PM	#38
Antaletriangle Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: U.K. Posts: 3,380	Re: The ET Question ? Good thread-i am starting to think that all E.T.'s are here to help in ways we can't comprehend on a physical level-this is a spiritual matter. For example an idea could be that reptilians/greys are here to test us in how we behave in the face of adversity with each other.There is nothing as in good or evil it's a matter of your perceptions.We have made the decision to be here in this density now to learn and help each other and the planet in someway-maybe the different aspects of the spiritual alien are ultimately to help us evolve and it's how we perceive their actions towards ourselves in how it's translated. Could the greys be part of a hybridisation in the physical realm to engineer new 'containers'/bodies for any incarnations that maybe required for those of us who don't make the transition to the higher densities and in so doing providing a new home for our souls whilst we need to learn more for our spiritual benefit? Are indeed the E.T.'s here to observe and translate our spiritual behaviour through a physical manifestation called 'life' to entities that are on a higher evolutionary plane;to debate whether we make the transition individually.I think it's wise to fear not because at the end of the road we travel we will all eventually meet with the source.Some it will take longer and some a shorter time to get there. I'm fed up with using 'Shanksie's pony' (walking) and hopefully am trying to hitch a lift in an Aston martin!lol. Hence being on this forum lol.