If you are seeking 'salvation', evolution of your soul to the next density. Read this

[Jack]

Originally Posted by Kevin

What is the topic of this thread? I lost track about 2 pages ago. Maybe the OP of this thread can give us an overall summary of the discussion.

Indeed the topic of this thread has been lost quite some time ago.

Its original focus was on "The Teachings of Ra" and somehow in the confusion it turned into a completely unrelated debate on Yahweh.

I will try and give a brief summery of the topic, it might get things back on track.

• The life we are living right now in this third dimensional reality is in fact a schooling ground to evaluate if our souls are ready to transcend to the next dimensional school.
  
• We are not here to change the world, we are here to change ourselves.
  
• If the world was different, ie ; A peacefull and a nice place, the majority of people incarnated here would be somewhere equally as challenging as our current earth.
  
• The purpose of this life is to transcend the illusion of duality.
  
• We will not change our circumstances by trying to change the world, this can only be achieved by changing ourselves. We are all one, so when we change ourselves we are in effect changing everyone.
  
• (Nearly forgot the most important one) - Earth is currently undergoing a shift into the fifth density, for quite a few decades earth has been vibrating in the 4th density, which is why many will have noticed their thoughts becoming reality with relative ease. To move with this shift we will each have to raise our vibration to one of love and acceptance. - I was hoping that this would be the topic of discussion.

That is a brief overview on the intended direction of this thread.

[ctophil]

Originally Posted by Allie

Thanks for your reply, Phillip

I don't think it has answered my main question, though. I think perhaps you have misunderstood it

I was not saying that an Almighty being is unaware of us - and perhaps, as you say, in great detail. What I was saying is that if Yahweh is responsible for the creation and evolution of the Universe, it is reasonable to assume that he is similarly evolved in what we might term emotional intelligence and therefore does not share our mindset - given that it is mortal and probably rather feeble.

Let me draw an analogy, Phillip. If I find a colony of ants has invaded a room in my house I have an immediate understanding of their state. They, by contrast, have absolutely no idea I exist. They cannot possibly conceive the world in which I live with its homes, furniture, schools, technology and so on. Now, given that I am clearly more evolved than they are, would it be reasonable of me to expect them to 'know' me and my world and to punish them if they didn't? Wouldn't it be faintly ludicrous to make such demands of an ant?

Extrapolating from this analogy, I cannot conceive of an Almighty being who would punish me for being what I was - a mere mortal. It is unfathomable to me to conceive of an Almighty who would be remotely interested in whether or not I chose to attend a church, synagogue, mosque - or nowhere at all.

I have never quite understood an Almighty being who demands that you must believe in his son or you're toast. This diminishes his 'might' and confers an entirely worldly egotistical stance on him. For me, Phillip, this doesn't quite stack up

If he is Almighty, then his emotional intelligence must also be way beyond ours.

Oh ok. I understand how you feel, Allie. You know, I used to think about the same thing. A few people I know have asked something similar to this before. Let me begin by saying this. Yahweh has a HUGE plan. His plan stretches before the times of Adam and Eve. Yes, this is in Bible scriptures. You just have to dig deeper. Anyways, His primary will is to build a family--a family surrounded by pure love, righteousness, selflessness, true peace (not the peace Satan wants you to perceive), and a world of no hunger, no tears, no wars, no sadness, and most important of all, no death. It's getting better. He wants us to inherit EVERYTHING He has created in the past, present, AND future! Hmm...can you think about that for a minute? Yes, that includes the Earth. Ok, it gets even better. He wants ALL of us (I'll get to this in a minute, why I said ALL) to enjoy and live freely with the knowledge, strength, and inheritance that He will give us. Best of all, He wants us to be with Him, living a life meant for you and me.

Father Yahweh (now I say He is also your Father as well, regardless if you acknowledge Him or not, but you can choose Satan as your Father) NEVER wants any of us to die and lose all of the above things I mentioned. That is not what He wants. Here is the rub...we can't live in His family if we choose to be rebellious and contradict His ways. Everything that you see and feel are His--His creations. There are things you can't see that He created. Allie, you can not live with Him if you don't follow His ways. It will never work out. For example, He would have to kick you out of the Kingdom of Heaven if you don't follow His rules when living under His roof. But here is the other rub, where would you go? Everything you see and feel are His Kingdom? The Kingdom of Heaven is coming here to Earth shortly. And you will see what I mean. The thing is that you can't inherit the Earth or anything else unless you become part of His family. Is that so much to ask for the gifts of love He will give you? One of those gifts are the most important one, Eternal Life. These gifts are not "tricks" to lure you to His Kingdom. They are expressions of His love. He created us for a reason. And I have just presented to you with that reason.

Hehe. Most people think that Yahweh is a "tyrant" or a "evil dictator" because He is so strict. Let me tell you something, it has been SO easy once I entered His arms of care. His so called strict rules and laws seem like a walk in the park by now. Don't see His judgment as punishment. Because it's not. In fact, He will give you another chance. This is NOT the only time He will give you a chance. He knows that, in some people's lives, most people will not get a chance to know Him by heart. However, your second chance will be a lot different. Father Yahweh will personally teach you and many others who He is and what He wants to give you. You will see this during the "Millennial Reign of Yahushua," which is the 1000 years rule of the Kingdom on Earth. This will happen very soon...in 3 - 4 years time. Read my snippet about "Hell" a few posts up. Because you see, He does know that we can't comprehend a lot of things. His thoughts are much, much higher than ours. You already know that. The only people who He will outright reject on judgment day are people who know the truth but pushes Him aside regardless. Furthermore, people who choose Satan and Evil over Him blatantly. One example would be the Illuminati and ones who call themselves, Elitists.

I hope that helps.

-Phillip

[Allie]

GregorA....your opening paragraph strikes a chord with me

When the 2012 thing dropped in my lap, I began investigating it via the internet and in books. I was astounded by the number of theories, channellings and beliefs that existed. Clearly, not all of them can apply - each one appeared to contradict the other.

Many years ago I was directed to a conclusion which may be relevant to what is happening today. If we were given insight into every step along the way or told the outcomes of every experience we encounter, then those giving us this information would not be acting in a moral way. To provide all the answers is to be live our lives for us when it is very necessary for us to do this all by ourselves.

It's a bit like having your parents make every decision for you - how would you every have the tools to cope by yourself? You need all experiences - be they good or bad. You cannot have the answers to every dilemma given to you on a plate. There is no learning value in that and so, no personal growth.

So perhaps we either have mischevious/negative energies influencing us, or perhaps we have some decent ones who are telling us that we have to find our own answers - they cannot lead our lives for us as it is unfair and unhelpful to do so

[GregorArturo]

Thanks for the response Allie. I can't remember exactly how I came across the 2012 but it was a very long time ago, before even the conspiracy theories started weasling their way into my existence. I am pretty sure though it had to do with my obsession with the Mayans. My childhood I was obsessed with crystals, Atlantis, Stonehenge, the Mayans, and the Incans. And for some reason it panned out that I then ended up visiting Chitzen Itza and Stonehenge in my adolescent years. I believe I came across 2012 while researching Atlantis. I decided to pursue my childhood curiousity (Atlantis) a couple years after high school one day, several months after I had this extraordinary past life dream, and that's exactly why I am here right now. Personal experiences, my friends No book can account for that.

[Allie]

I think we're heading towards being back on topic now

Many apologies for the thread-jacking TimeisShort

I admit to only recently hearing of the teachings of Ra and have not yet had the chance to read them all. I was directed to David Wilcock's site via a friend, simply because in his video he mentions a dream in which a being clad in long white robes appeared. I have had some experiences involving ancient-looking, white robed men and have for ages wondered quite who they are. However, I still don't know Still, this was where I first came across Ra.

My thoughts are that perhaps our aim in this density is self-acceptance - broadly speaking

I do feel that we cannot look to others to give us the answers. There are no saviours - helping hands maybe, but what will we learn if we hand our lives over to others on whatever plane of existance or espousing a particular ideology

[GregorArturo]

I didn't jack the thread, I was defending it

Yes, the white robed guys! That's what drew me more toward David Wilcock too, as he said that's the Council of Saturn. I met twelve of them I believe sitting in a circle in a dream, and by far the most ridiculous dream I've ever EVER had. I didn't know why they were for awhile. But they sure did seem like they knew what they were talking about. I've been planning on writing a thread to talk about my personal experiences, my quest, along specifically with that dream. I usually keep the dream to myself because of it's ridiculous implications.

Interesting synchronicity.

[Allie]

Oh please do, GregorA

These white-robed men have fascinated me since I first saw one - which was around 2002'ish.

I'll tell you mine if you tell me yours

Otherwise we might just thread-jack again, which would be unfair to TimeisShort and the discussion that might evolve from his interesting topic

[Jack]

Originally Posted by Allie

Many apologies for the thread-jacking TimeisShort

No problem at all Allie, but thank you anyways.

Originally Posted by Allie

My thoughts are that perhaps our aim in this density is self-acceptance - broadly speaking

My thoughts have been influenced very much by "The teachings of Ra", amongst many others of course. Everything was a little jigsaw puzzle from the works of Danion Brinkley to Gregg Bradon and many others. Everything just fitted into place perfectly. From what ive gathered, it seems that the aim of this life is indeed self-acceptance, and the acceptance of others. To accept each and every atom of this universe as a part of ourselves.

Originally Posted by GregorArturo

I didn't jack the thread, I was defending it

Whatever you resist persists

[GregorArturo]

For you, I promise I will. I'll send you a PM when I post the thread, eventually, as it's a long one, but good, very good, at least in my opinion.

[Allie]

I'm looking forward to that GregorA - might help me shed some light on my own white-robed-man puzzle

TimeIsShort - my influences are many - way too many to list I appear to have been born with a fascination for 'God' My tolerant - if bemused - parents became used to waving me goodbye as I set off to yet another Sunday school, or hijack of the local vicar/priest/rabbi I was too young to understand that what I was looking for was not religion but spirituality. It's an easy mistake to make when you're six years old

After bouncing about from one religion to another, I studied psychology at University where I came across Abraham Maslow and 'self-actualisation'. Some years later, attempting to sign up for a course in neuropsychology, I somehow ticked the wrong box and found myself signed up for a broad-based, first year science degree course. I now think that this was no accident - discovering science was also a spiritual experience.

I've found food for thought in Kahlil Gibran's ' The Prophet' and was fascinated by Gregg Braden - especially the phantom DNA experiments.

I find my best teachers are the people I meet. Most of them can teach me something I didn't know before - often about myself I think all that is necessary is to be aware of the possibilities for personal growth which exist in our everyday encounters with others. Even the ones who may hurt you offer an opportunity to learn

I hope I've made sense here. It's 3.30am in the UK and having been awake for 22hrs, I'm not even sure I know my own name

[Princess Mew Mew]

Originally Posted by GregorArturo

I didn't jack the thread, I was defending it

Yes, the white robed guys! That's what drew me more toward David Wilcock too, as he said that's the Council of Saturn. I met twelve of them I believe sitting in a circle in a dream, and by far the most ridiculous dream I've ever EVER had. I didn't know why they were for awhile. But they sure did seem like they knew what they were talking about. I've been planning on writing a thread to talk about my personal experiences, my quest, along specifically with that dream. I usually keep the dream to myself because of it's ridiculous implications.

Interesting synchronicity.

Your post reminded me of a quote

"Because it is sometimes so unbelievable the truth escapes becoming known."
~Heracleitus

I would also like to ask to hear your story as well through PM or email. I am insanely interested in people's stories/experiences/adventures Only if you'd like to though. Arigato gozaimasu~

~Love