IMPORTANT: Phone Call from Bill Deagle

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[wintersun]

Originally Posted by trainedobserver

Obviously there wasn't a nuclear event anywhere in the world yesterday. I chalk all this up to the fearmongering faux-reality cottage industry.

Obviously Deagle is bogus. David Wilcock is just as unrealiable because he hasn't picked up on the fact that Dan Burisch is a proven phoney.

http://www.ufowatchdog.com/jrod.html
http://www.ufowatchdog.com/burischdirtbag.html

I don't get it. Why is such significance placed on the opinions of these people when it can be clearly demonstrated that what they are saying doesn't line up with reality?

Good one!

But what makes you think Wilcock doesn't really know about it?

He does mention Burisch, and some of his testimonies, but only to a degree which resonates with his work.

[SpaceMonkey]

many people in this thread are saying that bill deagle is wrong because there wasn't a nuclear threat yesterday. Sorry but were you guys listening to the same phone call as me? He didn't say a nuclear event would happen on the 7th, he doesnt know when that will happen, but he said that an economic crisis on the 7th will start the ball rolling and lead to this event. I have been watching the economy for the past few days now and it is really going down hill.

[trainedobserver]

Originally Posted by WineHippie

trained observer...

if you place no significance on the people who you do not "resonate" to, and move on to the next resource, then the next... mining for the info that DOES spark something in you... weaving it altogether into something that makes sense to YOU... i guess the point is, there is no significance to be placed on someone's opinion, just info that rings true - or not. Peace

Truth is truth. Lies are lies. Deagles's dream was just a dream. Dan B. is a proven fraud which requires no great intuitive talent to discover. We shouldn't think with our guts or feelings we should think with our brains.

[Dadrious]

Go back to sleep America, your government is in control.

There is nothing to worry about.

[Jacqui D]

Exactly spacemonkey;
The information was quite clear that the beginning of something would happen on the 7th oct, not that date that an event would happen.
He also said that the time may be even next year, it is on a tuesday though and the 7th.
Whilst you take all this information in you make of it what you will, i myself have been feeling pretty fearfull of late because of all the information coming out of this site.
Once again i know you take of it what you will but i have an inkling that this is the start of something.
This phone call sent an alarm going in me although i have become aware that things could get really bad it wasn't until i heard that call that i really knew within myself that now is the time to get prepared for the future.

I also tried to burn a disc from this download with serous implication to my computor.
It crashed which is something i have never had before, only giving me further notions to me that this is a message of importance.

[Mike_Jetson]

Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey

many people in this thread are saying that bill deagle is wrong because there wasn't a nuclear threat yesterday. Sorry but were you guys listening to the same phone call as me? He didn't say a nuclear event would happen on the 7th, he doesnt know when that will happen, but he said that an economic crisis on the 7th will start the ball rolling and lead to this event. I have been watching the economy for the past few days now and it is really going down hill.

Exactly.

Its painful reading some peoples opinion here. 'Oh we are still alive, deagle is wrong! Burn him at the stake. Our entire financial system didnt collapse, no nukes were detonated and we all havnt got bird flu. What a lier he is. ' Wind your neck in

He only said that in his VISION, something financial in Europe would start on Tue 7th and that we may not even see it that day, it may be something done out of public view or with less immediate impact which may transpire later and could cause..........I dont need to go on.

I really would like to swear at some people and their ridiculous opinions of Deagles message but you know, theres kids here and stuff. Listen to it again and give your heads a shake.

[trainedobserver]

Originally Posted by Mike_Jetson

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He only said that in his VISION, something financial in Europe would start today and that we may not even see it that day, it may be something in secret which may transpire later and could cause.....I dont need to go on.

I really would like to swear at some people and their ridiculous opinions of Deagles message but you know, theres kids here and stuff. Listen to it again and give your heads a shake.

I have to shake my head at those who would place such significance on the dreams, visions, or hallucinations of anyone including their own. Children are frightened by dreams. Obviously the world is in a crisis (some would argue it has always been in a constant state of crisis), however are we to run to dreams and visions for explainations? We might as well be looking at tea leaves, runes, or the entrails of a cat for insight and guidance!

[Samarkis]

In my humble opinion, this financial ball rolls from its investors.(People with big money) They can aggressively fold their investments whenever they choose to pull the plug.In so doing, they effectively shut down the company with all of its employees. This has always been going on.They are all choosing at the same time now and I feel it is a purposeful orchestrated
event to pull people to their knees.
THE ISSUE IS : ARE WE GOING TO KEEP PLAYING BALL WITH THEIR RULES

OR ARE WE GOING TO MAKE OUR OWN AND CHANGE OUR SYSTEM???

WE HAVE LYNDON LAROUCHES IDEAS

WE HAVE JACQUE FRESCO'S IDEAS

BOTH ARE FOR HELPING MANKIND GET THEIR DIGNITY & RESOURCES BACK.

WE NEED TO ALL COME TO SOME CONSENSUS WHOSE IDEA OR

COMBINATION THEREOF THAT WE PUT INTO PLAY.

I know that according to LaRouche, that plan can be implemented within 3-6
months. I don't know if it could be said of the venus project??? I suggest we go with La Rouche's plan to save millions from panic and over next year or so integrate into Venus Project. All pro's & con's to this would be helpful
CO-CREATE!!!!
Namaste

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by Average Joe

No I don't get irony. That is the wifes department.

She is irony my shirts right now.

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by trainedobserver

I have to shake my head at those who would place such significance on the dreams, visions, or hallucinations of anyone including there own. Children are frightened by dreams. Obviously the world is in a crisis (some would argue it has always been in a constant state of crisis), however are we to run to dreams and visions for explainations? We might as well be looking at tea leaves, runes, or the entrails of a cat for insight and guidance!

Dreams are valid as are other tools one uses to get in touch with their higher self. What filters through the mind and negative emotions is not always valid. Let's keep the baby and throw out the bathwater -- easier said than done. Even the entrails of a cat can connect one up with their higher self -- or is it the morphogenetic field of cats one is connecting up with? [wry humor smilie]

[Samarkis]

The response is .........................???

[Bill Ryan]

Originally Posted by trainedobserver

Obviously there wasn't a nuclear event anywhere in the world yesterday. I chalk all this up to the fearmongering faux-reality cottage industry.

Obviously Deagle is bogus. David Wilcock is just as unrealiable because he hasn't picked up on the fact that Dan Burisch is a proven phoney.

http://www.ufowatchdog.com/jrod.html
http://www.ufowatchdog.com/burischdirtbag.html

I don't get it. Why is such significance placed on the opinions of these people when it can be clearly demonstrated that what they are saying doesn't line up with reality?

I'd be very pleased if Bill Deagle was either incorrect or seeing a real event on a different timeline (which is entirely possible).

But for clarification - and to further help you train your observational skills! - Bill Deagle never said that there would be a major incident on 7 October.

He said [my paraphrase] that the events which would lead up to the major incident would begin on 7 October.

There are many pointers to the possibility that there may be a major incident in the next few weeks, and Bill Deagle’s vision is just one of them. When I have a little more time it might be helpful for all to list all the anomalies, clues, insider references and logical inferences that an 'October surprise' (and possibly an unpleasant one) may be on the cards.

Kerry and I have received a number of e-mails from people reporting similar visions. One of them was from a military serviceman who wrote his message to us while in tears. He had seen exactly the same thing. Kerry had seen something similar, also - a number of weeks ago.

There seems to be something happening here. There looks to be a very impactful and vivid event - which may or may not transpire [note the implicit paradox] - and which is capturing many people's attention.

Re Dan Burisch, here I think you also have not been doing your research. Please read this page:

http://projectcamelot.org/dan_burisch_summary.html (My guess is that you did not read this before making your snap judgement. Please let me know if I am wrong.)

Dan Burisch is exactly who he says he is. Do not believe every debunking piece you read on the net. Kerry and I have seen his bona fides and so has Rob Simone, on stage at the 2008 Laughlin UFO Conference, where he interviewed Dan before a large live audience. I would be interested also to know if you have seen any of our video interviews of Dan.

With very best wishes,

Bill

[Rocky_Shorz]

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan

He said [my paraphrase] that the events which would lead up to the major incident would begin on 7 October.

Dan Burisch is exactly who he says he is. Do not believe every debunking piece you read on the net. Kerry and I have seen his bona fides and so has Rob Simone, on stage at the 2008 Laughlin UFO Conference, where he interviewed Dan before a large live audience. I would be interested also to know if you have seen any of our video interviews of Dan.

With very best wishes,

Bill

Hey Bill,

You have no idea how important it was to share this with us when you did...

How many here in this forum no longer have hair standing up on their arms warning of the dangers that are coming?

once again, you've been in the center of a time line change...

Keep them coming...

Rocky

[Average Joe]

Originally Posted by Jacqui D

Exactly spacemonkey;
The information was quite clear that the beginning of something would happen on the 7th oct, not that date that an event would happen.

He actually started off by saying a MAJOR event will start on the 7th, probably financial. But everybody else has been saying that too. Deagle is just following the crowd IMO.

Once again i know you take of it what you will but i have an inkling that this is the start of something.

You could well be right, time will tell on that one. I agree that it could be the start of something.

This phone call sent an alarm going in me although i have become aware that things could get really bad it wasn't until i heard that call that i really knew within myself that now is the time to get prepared for the future.

I don't see why it should. Deagle said nothing new, other than the nuclear event.

I also tried to burn a disc from this download with serous implication to my computor.
It crashed which is something i have never had before, only giving me further notions to me that this is a message of importance.

Oh behave!

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan

Dan Burisch is exactly who he says he is. Do not believe every debunking piece you read on the net. Kerry and I have seen his bona fides and so has Rob Simone, on stage at the 2008 Laughlin UFO Conference, where he interviewed Dan before a large live audience. I would be interested also to know if you have seen any of our video interviews of Dan.

With very best wishes,

Bill

I agree with Bill on this. It's stupid to believe someone as soon as he says he saw something in a vision or a dream. I totally agree with that. But if many people have had the same vision for approximately the same date, it is interesting to consider it. The fact that Deagle didn't say that the H bomb was gonna blow Los Angeles on precisely the 7th of October is not even subtle in his message, it's pretty clear.

You know, sometimes, skeptics make me laugh, as they believe any junk debunking on the net just as other people will believe any occult belief they'll come across there. One is not better than the other.

I've seen many seriously odd things in my life, and I mean this from a very objective point of view. Enough things to know that reality is not quite what we are trained to think it is. However, I don't pretend knowing what's real and what's phoney, but I do know that many things said to be phoney ain't at all.

And about the world's situation, we've been getting information from many people since a long time. Information about serious economic situations that would soon shake the whole world. And now, we're in October, the month that was somehow foreseen, and there IS an economic collapse. I mean, this is not like predicting that in October, there will be a lot of rain falling.

To me, at least, it's valid enough as a result to make me consider that what these people say might (just might) be true.

See, some skeptics are so skeptical on absolutely everything that I wonder if they really believe they were born from their mother since they don't remember the event themselves... and if they could, they might put the blame on hallucinations.

[trainedobserver]

I guess I've been sufficiently put in my place. I'm still not a Dan B./ David Wilcock/ etc. true believer.

[Samarkis]

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan

There are many pointers to the possibility that there may be a major incident in the next few weeks, and Bill Deagle’s vision is just one of them. When I have a little more time it might be helpful for all to list all the anomalies, clues, insider references and logical inferences that an 'October surprise' (and possibly an unpleasant one) may be on the cards.

Kerry and I have received a number of e-mails from people reporting similar visions. One of them was from a military serviceman who wrote his message to us while in tears. He had seen exactly the same thing. Kerry had seen something similar, also - a number of weeks ago.re seems to be something happening here. There looks to be a very impactful and vivid event - which may or may not transpire [note the implicit paradox] - and which is capturing many people's attention.

Dan Burisch is exactly who he says he is. Do not believe every debunking piece you read on the net. Kerry and I have seen his bona fides and so has Rob Simone, on stage at the 2008 Laughlin UFO Conference, where he interviewed Dan before a large live audience. I would be interested also to know if you have seen any of our video interviews of Dan.

With very best wishes,

Bill

Namaste Bill-

I just would like to ask all those that have info that is valuable to step forward.If you have info that could avert a Tragedy-pls out with it.
Bill Cooper was not afraid-and several others as well. We look at their
deaths as a sacrifice-yet, that was also how we knew they were telling truth.
Bill will always remain a hero and his spirit may be among those telling us what we need to know. I wish I knew something as I would be running all over telling all what they needed to know.

We also do not have time to tell if Dan B. is telling all truths,I feel he is telling what he knows as truth. When one is tied into a system, they are not told all programs. We have to keep his info on a standby if it does not seem apparant now. We may need it a little "down the road".

This is how I feel with Miriam Delcado as well.

I also do not buy into the idea that there are only 4-6 "Radient Zones" of safety. Why would Divine Creator do that? It would not make rational sense.
I feel that we are all Co-creators and have a degree of control of how things shape up within our personal realities. I also believe we are more than
physical entities. I like the statement: We are Spiritual Beings having a
Physical Experience.

I think this issue is being missed by MANY people. They are ONLY looking at
3D. I do not blame them-I just wonder how to reach them so as to know-
We might have the very real possibility of becoming Light Beings before all havoc breaks loose. IF NOT: I do not want to live in a world without those that I know and love-My family,my neighbors,my grocery people,my athletic colleages,my business associates,the people I pass in the turning lanes....
My place is with my Humanity-Not running to radient zones.
Now is the time to help Humanity.

With much Love in my heart for Humanity,
Sara

[Average Joe]

Originally Posted by clovince

I agree with Bill on this. It's stupid to believe someone as soon as he says he saw something in a vision or a dream. I totally agree with that. But if many people have had the same vision for approximately the same date, it is interesting to consider it. The fact that Deagle didn't say that the H bomb was gonna blow Los Angeles on precisely the 7th of October is not even subtle in his message, it's pretty clear.

You know, sometimes, skeptics make me laugh, as they believe any junk debunking on the net just as other people will believe any occult belief they'll come across there. One is not better than the other.

I've seen many seriously odd things in my life, and I mean this from a very objective point of view. Enough things to know that reality is not quite what we are trained to think it is. However, I don't pretend knowing what's real and what's phoney, but I do know that many things said to be phoney ain't at all.

And about the world's situation, we've been getting information from many people since a long time. Information about serious economic situations that would soon shake the whole world. And now, we're in October, the month that was somehow foreseen, and there IS an economic collapse. I mean, this is not like predicting that in October, there will be a lot of rain falling.

To me, at least, it's valid enough as a result to make me consider that what these people say might (just might) be true.

See, some skeptics are so skeptical on absolutely everything that I wonder if they really believe they were born from their mother since they don't remember the event themselves... and if they could, they might put the blame on hallucinations.

There are no skeptics on here.

There are people who will believe every single thing, and people that step back and think about it....perhaps just requiring a shred of evidence from time to time.

I've made my feelings on Deagle clear, my "inner truth" tells me to steer clear.

Does that make me a skeptic? I don't think it does.

I just don't believe everything that I read and hear.

Originally Posted by Average Joe

There are no skeptics on here.

There are people who will believe every single thing, and people that step back and think about it....perhaps just requiring a shred of evidence from time to time.

I've made my feelings on Deagle clear, my "inner truth" tells me to steer clear.

Does that make me a skeptic? I don't think it does.

I just don't believe everything that I read and hear.

Sorry Average Joe, but if you ain't a skeptic, I wonder why you feel that my message concerned you ? Why do you feel like the hat fits your head ? If what you say you are doing is in fact what you do, then you are no more a skeptic than I am myself and we share the same point of view.

My message was pointed at the direction of those whose skeptic attitude tends to be like a religious fanatism, believing anything else than what is yet proven. So I don't think you should be concerned by this.
I

[izz]

Originally Posted by Dadrious

Go back to sleep America, your government is in control.

There is nothing to worry about.

actually governments are only in control when given the consent of the people ...

so that includes the american govt - they rule by consent .. whether that consent is passive or active ..

if we want change we have to change ourselves first and feed the revolution .. peaceful one that is

[One 66]

I my self have been feeling something is about to happen this week or next week before ever reading about all that has been said here in this forum or any other website. Good or bad, it will be, and so, I'll deal with it then. If nothing happens, cool with me too. All is the way it is meant to be. No big deal. I still live life the way I do regardless of what's happening all around me... in the moment.

One 66

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey

many people in this thread are saying that bill deagle is wrong because there wasn't a nuclear threat yesterday. Sorry but were you guys listening to the same phone call as me? He didn't say a nuclear event would happen on the 7th, he doesnt know when that will happen, but he said that an economic crisis on the 7th will start the ball rolling and lead to this event. I have been watching the economy for the past few days now and it is really going down hill.

correct i listened to the saem interview as you my friend.. and yes october 7th was the start oif the implosion for real in the uk economy.. remeber most of our usa counterparts are only lloking inwards at the moment.. uk is toast. the other stuff he said was goijg to come in the next few years,, i dont recall him giving any dates other than economic mayhem on the 7th.. which happend..

[Jacqui D]

Originally Posted by pineal-pilot-in merkabah

correct i listened to the saem interview as you my friend.. and yes october 7th was the start oif the implosion for real in the uk economy.. remeber most of our usa counterparts are only lloking inwards at the moment.. uk is toast. the other stuff he said was goijg to come in the next few years,, i dont recall him giving any dates other than economic mayhem on the 7th.. which happend..

Quite this is exactly what i said, Bill did say things may happen in the future.
I don't generally believe everything i read and listen too only when it resonates with my own feelings.
Some of us are more intuitive than others we should not debunk people when their visions give them insights.
Myself as well as many others hope and pray that this parody does not come to fruition.
Is this site for putting people down? for some i feel yes!
I suggest anyone who feels they can not take all this on should be looking at another site to get there ideas across.

[Average Joe]

Originally Posted by clovince

Sorry Average Joe, but if you ain't a skeptic, I wonder why you feel that my message concerned you ? Why do you feel like the hat fits your head ? If what you say you are doing is in fact what you do, then you are no more a skeptic than I am myself and we share the same point of view.

My message was pointed at the direction of those whose skeptic attitude tends to be like a religious fanatism, believing anything else than what is yet proven. So I don't think you should be concerned by this.
I

Well I have been critical of Deagle on this thread, and we all know that critical = skeptic to some people.

Then you post about skeptics (why?), so I assumed that I may have been one of the ones you were talking about.

Also, yes there are skeptics that are almost religeously fanatical, but the same can be said for the sponge like people who absorb anything and everything as true.

Two extremes there, and it is hard to be balanced somewhere in the middle.

My philosiphy is to question things. I ask questions all the time. Its just the way I am.