Army deploys combat unit in US for possible civil unrest

[QUESTINY]

Army deploys combat unit in US for possible civil unrest

By Bill Van Auken
25 September 2008

For the first time ever, the US military is deploying an active duty regular Army combat unit for full-time use inside the United States to deal with emergencies, including potential civil unrest.
Beginning on October 1, the First Brigade Combat Team of the Third Division will be placed under the command of US Army North, the Army’s component of the Pentagon’s Northern Command (NorthCom), which was created in the wake of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks with the stated mission of defending the US “homeland” and aiding federal, state and local authorities.
The unit—known as the “Raiders”—is among the Army’s most “blooded.” It has spent nearly three out of the last five years deployed in Iraq, leading the assault on Baghdad in 2003 and carrying out house-to-house combat in the suppression of resistance in the city of Ramadi. It was the first brigade combat team to be sent to Iraq three times.
While active-duty units previously have been used in temporary assignments, such as the combat-equipped troops deployed in New Orleans, which was effectively placed under martial law in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, this marks the first time that an Army combat unit has been given a dedicated assignment in which US soil constitutes its “battle zone.”
The Pentagon’s official pronouncements have stressed the role of specialized units in a potential response to terrorist attack within the US. Gen. George Casey, the Army chief of staff, attended a training exercise last week for about 250 members of the unit at Fort Stewart, Georgia. The focus of the exercise, according to the Army’s public affairs office, was how troops “might fly search and rescue missions, extract casualties and decontaminate people following a catastrophic nuclear attack in the nation’s heartland.”
“We are at war with a global extremist network that is not going away,” Casey told the soldiers. “I hope we don’t have to use it, but we need the capability.”
However, the mission assigned to the nearly 4,000 troops of the First Brigade Combat Team does not consist merely of rescuing victims of terrorist attacks. An article that appeared earlier this month in the Army Times (“Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1”), a publication that is widely read within the military, paints a different and far more ominous picture.
“They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control,” the paper reports. It quotes the unit’s commander, Col. Robert Cloutier, as saying that the 1st BCT’s soldiers are being trained in the use of “the first ever nonlethal package the Army has fielded.” The weapons, the paper reported, are “designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them.” The equipment includes beanbag bullets, shields and batons and equipment for erecting roadblocks.
It appears that as part of the training for deployment within the US, the soldiers have been ordered to test some of this non-lethal equipment on each other.
“I was the first guy in the brigade to get Tasered,” Cloutier told the Army Times. He described the effects of the electroshock weapon as “your worst muscle cramp ever—times 10 throughout your whole body.”
The colonel’s remark suggests that, in preparation for their “homefront” duties, rank-and-file troops are also being routinely Tasered. The brutalizing effect and intent of such a macabre training exercise is to inure troops against sympathy for the pain and suffering they may be called upon to inflict on the civilian population using these same “non-lethal” weapons.
According to military officials quoted by the Army Times, the deployment of regular Army troops in the US begun with the First Brigade Combat Team is to become permanent, with different units rotated into the assignment on an annual basis.
In an online interview with reporters earlier this month, NorthCom officers were asked about the implications of the new deployment for the Posse Comitatus Act, the 230-year-old legal statute that bars the use of US military forces for law enforcement purposes within the US itself.
Col. Lou Volger, NorthCom’s chief of future operations, tried to downplay any enforcement role, but added, “We will integrate with law enforcement to understand the situation and make sure we’re aware of any threats.”
Volger acknowledged the obvious, that the Brigade Combat Team is a military force, while attempting to dismiss the likelihood that it would play any military role. It “has forces for security,” he said, “but that’s really—they call them security forces, but that’s really just to establish our own footprint and make sure that we can operate and run our own bases.”
Lt. Col. James Shores, another NorthCom officer, chimed in, “Let’s say even if there was a scenario that developed into a branch of a civil disturbance—even at that point it would take a presidential directive to even get it close to anything that you’re suggesting.”
Whatever is required to trigger such an intervention, clearly Col. Cloutier and his troops are preparing for it with their hands-on training in the use of “non-lethal” means of repression.
The extreme sensitivity of the military brass on this issue notwithstanding, the reality is that the intervention of the military in domestic affairs has grown sharply over the last period under conditions in which its involvement in two colonial-style wars abroad has given it a far more prominent role in American political life.
The Bush administration has worked to tear down any barriers to the use of the military in domestic repression. Thus, in the 2007 Pentagon spending bill it inserted a measure to amend the Posse Comitatus Act to clear the way for the domestic deployment of the military in the event of natural disaster, terrorist attack or “other conditions in which the president determines that domestic violence has occurred to the extent that state officials cannot maintain public order.”
The provision granted the president sweeping new powers to impose martial law by declaring a “public emergency” for virtually any reason, allowing him to deploy troops anywhere in the US and to take control of state-based National Guard units without the consent of state governors in order to “suppress public disorder.”
The provision was subsequently repealed by Congress as part of the 2008 military appropriations legislation, but the intent remains. Given the sweeping powers claimed by the White House in the name of the “commander in chief” in a global war on terror—powers to suspend habeas corpus, carry out wholesale domestic spying and conduct torture—there is no reason to believe it would respect legal restrictions against the use of military force at home.
It is noteworthy that the deployment of US combat troops “as an on-call federal response force for natural or manmade emergencies and disasters”—in the words of the Army Times—coincides with the eruption of the greatest economic emergency and financial disaster since the Great Depression of the 1930s.
Justified as a response to terrorist threats, the real source of the growing preparations for the use of US military force within America’s borders lies not in the events of September 11, 2001 or the danger that they will be repeated. Rather, the domestic mobilization of the armed forces is a response by the US ruling establishment to the growing threat to political stability.
Under conditions of deepening economic crisis, the unprecedented social chasm separating the country’s working people from the obscenely wealthy financial elite becomes unsustainable within the existing political framework.

[Arkan]

Originally Posted by QUESTINY

It quotes the unit’s commander, Col. Robert Cloutier, as saying that the 1st BCT’s soldiers are being trained in the use of “the first ever nonlethal package the Army has fielded.” The weapons, the paper reported, are “designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them.” The equipment includes beanbag bullets, shields and batons and equipment for erecting roadblocks.
It appears that as part of the training for deployment within the US, the soldiers have been ordered to test some of this non-lethal equipment on each other.
“I was the first guy in the brigade to get Tasered,” Cloutier told the Army Times. He described the effects of the electroshock weapon as “your worst muscle cramp ever—times 10 throughout your whole body.”
The colonel’s remark suggests that, in preparation for their “homefront” duties, rank-and-file troops are also being routinely Tasered. The brutalizing effect and intent of such a macabre training exercise is to inure troops against sympathy for the pain and suffering they may be called upon to inflict on the civilian population using these same “non-lethal” weapons.

I strongly urge people not to protest or be violent towards police or soldiers. They are just dying to use weapons like these. Remember, once marshal law is declared there is no more Constitution and, therefore, protesting will not do any good. In my opinion, the only realistic way we can survive something like this scenario is to remain in safe places with people whom you trust. If you haven't started stockpiling food and supplies I suggest you begin thinking about it. If you haven't done so yet, you might want to watch the Camelot interviews with Michael St. Clair where he talks about what he calls "Radiant Zones." The most important thing I took away from his futuretalk is that it is necessary to distance oneself from the chaos that will ensue. This means being self sufficient with food, land, energy, and water. He suggests staying away from major cities as well. My point here is that we need to allow the mayhem around us to occur and wait until it dissipates--and certainly not to provoke police or soldiers!

[sfth13]

maybe they will park their butts outside the Federal Reserve Bank and the Capital. I guess we'll see.

[QUESTINY]

Originally Posted by Arkan

I strongly urge people not to protest or be violent towards police or soldiers. They are just dying to use weapons like these. Remember, once marshal law is declared there is no more Constitution and, therefore, protesting will not do any good. In my opinion, the only realistic way we can survive something like this scenario is to remain in safe places with people whom you trust. If you haven't started stockpiling food and supplies I suggest you begin thinking about it. If you haven't done so yet, you might want to watch the Camelot interviews with Michael St. Clair where he talks about what he calls "Radiant Zones." The most important thing I took away from his futuretalk is that it is necessary to distance oneself from the chaos that will ensue. This means being self sufficient with food, land, energy, and water. He suggests staying away from major cities as well. My point here is that we need to allow the mayhem around us to occur and wait until it dissipates--and certainly not to provoke police or soldiers!

Fantastic opinion. I agree with your well thought out post. Best post yet!

[ophiuchus]

questiny,you should be like a journalist! good job.

[tonyotag]

Originally Posted by Arkan

I strongly urge people not to protest or be violent towards police or soldiers. They are just dying to use weapons like these. Remember, once marshal law is declared there is no more Constitution and, therefore, protesting will not do any good. In my opinion, the only realistic way we can survive something like this scenario is to remain in safe places with people whom you trust. If you haven't started stockpiling food and supplies I suggest you begin thinking about it. If you haven't done so yet, you might want to watch the Camelot interviews with Michael St. Clair where he talks about what he calls "Radiant Zones." The most important thing I took away from his futuretalk is that it is necessary to distance oneself from the chaos that will ensue. This means being self sufficient with food, land, energy, and water. He suggests staying away from major cities as well. My point here is that we need to allow the mayhem around us to occur and wait until it dissipates--and certainly not to provoke police or soldiers!

SPEACH:

I agree; but the country side is very dangerous as well. Nonetheless, military bases would be there, and on high alert! What about the colleges, the farms? What ramifications would happen then? Who should we trust? Can the military coup d'état to enforce the constitution because of governors across the United States stand up to enforce the states' rights!!!!! We must implore our state legislators and governors to coup d'état against the federal government to support the constitution of the united states because of 2nd amendment rights (even if the US constitution is not in play.) This is THE UNITED STATES not the UNITED FEDERAL GOVERMENT as what they want you to think. This goes beyond ties to democrat, republican, independent; WE ARE AMERICANS and our FREEDOM WILL NOT BE TRED UPON US!!!

I agree that violence is not the answer, but always to think out of a situation instead of being open to attack. For this reason, we attack the poor to make the rich richer! We attack the rich to make the poor more abusive upon us all! This must STOP! We must move beyond the resources that capitulate our minds, but understand that it is still necessary to think of resources as a limited piece on the chess board of life and living. To survive and thrive is a motto that we must embrace! If not, is it doom? Is it sin? Is it against our human nature? Are we capitulated with each other, yes! To work together is what our founding fathers of the 13 united colonies of America first thought of. What we have become today is distracted to enslave one another to each other. In any way, in any fashion; even communism does this, even fascism does this, even our current freedoms of capitalism have led to this gimmick (money) we call freedom. 2000 years plus of Christians and other religions, were just more than ONE way to control us. We must obsolete our premises of trade and tit for tat! For this dream to exist is an economical and logical dream! Obsolete currency, obsolete our hate, obsolete illogical thinking!!!

Our impasse to our dream lies in each one of us. Help our local government, talk of your concerns to your neighbors, and gain report. Respect your neighbor at all costs! We the human race is a plural race, I hope in all of this time that we have left, that genocide is NOT THE ANSWER! Genocide causes permanent damage and evolutionary resistance to change! This is what the 'powers to be' want? This what they need? This is what must happen? Natural Biology will kill them if they go this route! In breeding always does. Keep our race plural, this will keep us alive to thrive! Stand up and realize that we are only pawns in a game of survival, each and every one of us, and no pawn is king! No pawn, no matter how much power one has, is not above the laws of nature. For the paws that we are have dreams, dreams to go beyond what we can do.

We must aggregate in minds as well as logic. To obsolete our ties to perminant resource control, but know that logic allows us to use resources, is our only hope to asscend. Each state of THE UNITED STATES; Hark and Help! I plee that we are to relize before it is too late, as a world society, as a peaceful act, that we are all unique and part of a aggrigate plan. LET US FREE, LET US BE. I PRAY: GOD, JESUS, HOLY GHOST, DO NOT LET THEM TREAD ON ME!

[end of speach]

Let us not forget what will go down soon. I will be in hideing, if you seek me to lead you, you have failed to be dependent upon yourself, but love of thy neighbor has not failed. Remain strong, remain viligaliant, remain free!

tonyotag

[sylvan]

I would really like to know the best strategy for standing up to the "soldiers" and collective disobedience, since all I have been reading about coming global transformation leads me to understand that those who stand against the Illuminati, its minions and injustice are doing the right thing and those who do nothing are part of the problem, in a manner of speaking.

If there was no martial law coming down on our 6 billion (who might rise up against the 2000) we might exist quite gamely just being left alone, but they will round up some of us activists, and sooner or later, you will encounter them when you just cross the road, because the tyranny is not going away unless we all stand up.

That is what is needed at some point, but as soon as there is a force present, we will be unable to communicate and coordinate widely. I understand no violence against them, but what is the best civil disobedience against this? When they cannot defend, they will provoke. We need a plan, a call to sing, chant, lie down, do some disobedient thing., but it will be dangerous. Who has suggestions?

I apologize if this has been covered somewhere else in the forum. I am fairly new and cannot read all the many wonderful posts. Thanks, the many of you, for this site and all the attention it has engendered. Peace.

[QUESTINY]

Originally Posted by ophiuchus

questiny,you should be like a journalist! good job.

I have many more things to post but I have almost completely stopped because of the notion that we need to be positive. I find the approach to be positive honorable, but when you censor the information you are no longer for the betterment of humanity. You are just as bad as The Powers That Be. It is not the information that is negative is it how the individual processes it. If you process the information through fear than it becomes negative and if you process the information through tolerance and understanding than it becomes love.

I would also like to mention that I have been "Forbidden" from posting things on the Economy section. I do not know why but every time I try to post a thread on that section, I get "Forbidden".

[Arkan]

Originally Posted by rogue2

does anyone think that people would naturally just go there, willingly?

similar to when people oftentimes go to high-school gymnasiums when hurricanes hit for food & water distribution and shelter.

does anyone imagine that after a couple weeks of the grid being down, that TPTB would then "collect" or "lead" people to their camps; those of whom still have the "government is going to save you in a crisis" mentality. people who cant support themselves wont really have much of a choice...especially if there is a family involved. and the sight of a national guard is often welcome when people are at their dire straits.

what do you think?

This was my thinking and I actually brought up this idea a while ago on another thread. I think that it is very likely that their plan is to let this country destroy itself by riots and panic. After closing the borders and several days of chaos they announce that they have been building these FEMA camps for just such an occasion. (David Icke's 'Problem, Reaction, Solution'). They'll have trains and buses ready to transport Americans to the camps where they say there is food, water, and shelter. Americans who are asleep and still believe that their government wants to protect them will believe this rubbish. The Illuminati have a very sick sense of humor and they love it when Americans display their ignorance and gullibility. This is just one idea I have so don't hold me to it but I can see it happening this way.

The way to protect ourselves from this is to create self-sufficient communities so that we won't have to rely on government for security and support. What I have been doing and will continue to do is to maintain enough resources to be able to ride out the situation with trustworthy people so that I can survive this phase and be ready for the next one. My advice is to allow this to happen and do not fear it. This is the beginning not the end.

See you at the alchemical wedding.
Peace

[Steve_A]

Hi QUESTINY,

Although the army taking ontrol of the street is quite an old story, the arms that they would probably use is an even older one. Treat is as a sound device. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=4857417

Although this sort of technology has been around since pre-IIWW in Germany, the arm at that time called Joshua wich was capable to demolish buildings using sound waves, it's only over that last ten years that this sort of thing has been used to control people,having been used in New Orleans, and Israel (see previous link) Republic of Georgia and new York: http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/200...rrible-racket/

check out here for a little more info: http://www.defense-update.com/products/l/LRAD.htm

Ear muffs I'm afraid won't cut it with this device.


Best regards,

Steve

Originally Posted by QUESTINY

Army deploys combat unit in US for possible civil unrest

By Bill Van Auken
25 September 2008

For the first time ever, the US military is deploying an active duty regular Army combat unit for full-time use inside the United States to deal with emergencies, including potential civil unrest.
Beginning on October 1, the First Brigade Combat Team of the Third Division will be placed under the command of US Army North, the Army’s component of the Pentagon’s Northern Command (NorthCom), which was created in the wake of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks with the stated mission of defending the US “homeland” and aiding federal, state and local authorities.
The unit—known as the “Raiders”—is among the Army’s most “blooded.” It has spent nearly three out of the last five years deployed in Iraq, leading the assault on Baghdad in 2003 and carrying out house-to-house combat in the suppression of resistance in the city of Ramadi. It was the first brigade combat team to be sent to Iraq three times.
While active-duty units previously have been used in temporary assignments, such as the combat-equipped troops deployed in New Orleans, which was effectively placed under martial law in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, this marks the first time that an Army combat unit has been given a dedicated assignment in which US soil constitutes its “battle zone.”
The Pentagon’s official pronouncements have stressed the role of specialized units in a potential response to terrorist attack within the US. Gen. George Casey, the Army chief of staff, attended a training exercise last week for about 250 members of the unit at Fort Stewart, Georgia. The focus of the exercise, according to the Army’s public affairs office, was how troops “might fly search and rescue missions, extract casualties and decontaminate people following a catastrophic nuclear attack in the nation’s heartland.”
“We are at war with a global extremist network that is not going away,” Casey told the soldiers. “I hope we don’t have to use it, but we need the capability.”
However, the mission assigned to the nearly 4,000 troops of the First Brigade Combat Team does not consist merely of rescuing victims of terrorist attacks. An article that appeared earlier this month in the Army Times (“Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1”), a publication that is widely read within the military, paints a different and far more ominous picture.
“They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control,” the paper reports. It quotes the unit’s commander, Col. Robert Cloutier, as saying that the 1st BCT’s soldiers are being trained in the use of “the first ever nonlethal package the Army has fielded.” The weapons, the paper reported, are “designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them.” The equipment includes beanbag bullets, shields and batons and equipment for erecting roadblocks.
It appears that as part of the training for deployment within the US, the soldiers have been ordered to test some of this non-lethal equipment on each other.
“I was the first guy in the brigade to get Tasered,” Cloutier told the Army Times. He described the effects of the electroshock weapon as “your worst muscle cramp ever—times 10 throughout your whole body.”
The colonel’s remark suggests that, in preparation for their “homefront” duties, rank-and-file troops are also being routinely Tasered. The brutalizing effect and intent of such a macabre training exercise is to inure troops against sympathy for the pain and suffering they may be called upon to inflict on the civilian population using these same “non-lethal” weapons.
According to military officials quoted by the Army Times, the deployment of regular Army troops in the US begun with the First Brigade Combat Team is to become permanent, with different units rotated into the assignment on an annual basis.
In an online interview with reporters earlier this month, NorthCom officers were asked about the implications of the new deployment for the Posse Comitatus Act, the 230-year-old legal statute that bars the use of US military forces for law enforcement purposes within the US itself.
Col. Lou Volger, NorthCom’s chief of future operations, tried to downplay any enforcement role, but added, “We will integrate with law enforcement to understand the situation and make sure we’re aware of any threats.”
Volger acknowledged the obvious, that the Brigade Combat Team is a military force, while attempting to dismiss the likelihood that it would play any military role. It “has forces for security,” he said, “but that’s really—they call them security forces, but that’s really just to establish our own footprint and make sure that we can operate and run our own bases.”
Lt. Col. James Shores, another NorthCom officer, chimed in, “Let’s say even if there was a scenario that developed into a branch of a civil disturbance—even at that point it would take a presidential directive to even get it close to anything that you’re suggesting.”
Whatever is required to trigger such an intervention, clearly Col. Cloutier and his troops are preparing for it with their hands-on training in the use of “non-lethal” means of repression.
The extreme sensitivity of the military brass on this issue notwithstanding, the reality is that the intervention of the military in domestic affairs has grown sharply over the last period under conditions in which its involvement in two colonial-style wars abroad has given it a far more prominent role in American political life.
The Bush administration has worked to tear down any barriers to the use of the military in domestic repression. Thus, in the 2007 Pentagon spending bill it inserted a measure to amend the Posse Comitatus Act to clear the way for the domestic deployment of the military in the event of natural disaster, terrorist attack or “other conditions in which the president determines that domestic violence has occurred to the extent that state officials cannot maintain public order.”
The provision granted the president sweeping new powers to impose martial law by declaring a “public emergency” for virtually any reason, allowing him to deploy troops anywhere in the US and to take control of state-based National Guard units without the consent of state governors in order to “suppress public disorder.”
The provision was subsequently repealed by Congress as part of the 2008 military appropriations legislation, but the intent remains. Given the sweeping powers claimed by the White House in the name of the “commander in chief” in a global war on terror—powers to suspend habeas corpus, carry out wholesale domestic spying and conduct torture—there is no reason to believe it would respect legal restrictions against the use of military force at home.
It is noteworthy that the deployment of US combat troops “as an on-call federal response force for natural or manmade emergencies and disasters”—in the words of the Army Times—coincides with the eruption of the greatest economic emergency and financial disaster since the Great Depression of the 1930s.
Justified as a response to terrorist threats, the real source of the growing preparations for the use of US military force within America’s borders lies not in the events of September 11, 2001 or the danger that they will be repeated. Rather, the domestic mobilization of the armed forces is a response by the US ruling establishment to the growing threat to political stability.
Under conditions of deepening economic crisis, the unprecedented social chasm separating the country’s working people from the obscenely wealthy financial elite becomes unsustainable within the existing political framework.

[corvo]

sorry, edited in the wrong tread

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

i agree with arkan. its the begining of the game for those in the know.. the end for sleeping peoples..

[Seva]

this was on mtv? dude this creepy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reCpV1YHuYs&NR=1

[Seva]

i havent slept in days...ick

Don't worry. There are only about 14,000 soldiers in that brigade. And there are at least 8,000,000 people in New York city. There are roughly about 300,000,000 people in the United States. Do the math.

You wanted are troops to come home. Well there you go. And we may need those troops in case brigades of people start killing for gas and food. There is always a positive way of viewing things.

We deal with crime everyday. It is even more important to insure the safety of our citizens in the United States.

This may be needed to have a smooth transition in a new economic structure.
We are going through many changes. Remember, police and soldiers have families and loved ones. They are people like you and me.

They are also trying to support their families.

Don't get me wrong, now if Darth Vader comes out and the soldiers become Storm Troopers that may be a different way at looking at things. But creating paranoia based off of the fears of Martial Law will only spread more negativity. And since you are co-creators, you may actually get what you fear the most. You are creating this reality.

Get out of the fear web and take control of your powers. Create and imagine what you want for the United States. Meditate and create the positive results. Do this everyday and watch the magic happen.

Peace.

P.S. this may be my last post since tommorow is October 1st. So friends it was nice knowing you. Peace be with all of you and create a bright loving future for all of us.

[ADAM KADMON]

Originally Posted by Seva

this was on mtv? dude this creepy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reCpV1YHuYs&NR=1

Wow. No joke...

As far as viewing this positively and negatively, they are just opposite sides of the same coin. You need to be able to view things in BOTH ways. Only than will you see that viewing them positively is "ignorant" for the negative aspects and vice versa, and truly they are one in the same. Then it ceases to have polarity and just "is". It becomes a matter of vibration and movement, not black or white. Then you are thinking in 5D.

[iainl140285]

Hey Suriel,
What happens Oct 1st that you wont be able to continue as normal?

Peace
Iain



P.S. this may be my last post since tommorow is October 1st. So friends it was nice knowing you. Peace be with all of you and create a bright loving future for all of us.[/QUOTE]

Well, I am under the impression that Avalon will be a paid subscription website. Of course, I haven't heard any update regarding this matter and maybe this topic should be in another thread.

Be safe everyone.

Peace.

[iainl140285]

Originally Posted by suriel

Well, I am under the impression that Avalon will be a paid subscription website. Of course, I haven't heard any update regarding this matter and maybe this topic should be in another thread.

Be safe everyone.

Peace.

AHHH! Of course. Well reminded Suriel.
2mrw it is then ...


Peace
Iain

Originally Posted by Arkan

I strongly urge people not to protest or be violent towards police or soldiers. They are just dying to use weapons like these. Remember, once marshal law is declared there is no more Constitution and, therefore, protesting will not do any good. In my opinion, the only realistic way we can survive something like this scenario is to remain in safe places with people whom you trust. If you haven't started stockpiling food and supplies I suggest you begin thinking about it. If you haven't done so yet, you might want to watch the Camelot interviews with Michael St. Clair where he talks about what he calls "Radiant Zones." The most important thing I took away from his futuretalk is that it is necessary to distance oneself from the chaos that will ensue. This means being self sufficient with food, land, energy, and water. He suggests staying away from major cities as well. My point here is that we need to allow the mayhem around us to occur and wait until it dissipates--and certainly not to provoke police or soldiers!

Just be forewarned that stockpiling food is in direct violation of the Patriot Act and will get you in an internment camp faster than crap through a goose.

You have been warned.

Originally Posted by QUESTINY

Army deploys combat unit in US for possible civil unrest

By Bill Van Auken
25 September 2008

For the first time ever, the US military is deploying an active duty regular Army combat unit for full-time use inside the United States to deal with emergencies, including potential civil unrest.
Beginning on October 1, the First Brigade Combat Team of the Third Division will be placed under the command of US Army North, the Army’s component of the Pentagon’s Northern Command (NorthCom), which was created in the wake of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks with the stated mission of defending the US “homeland” and aiding federal, state and local authorities.
The unit—known as the “Raiders”—is among the Army’s most “blooded.” It has spent nearly three out of the last five years deployed in Iraq, leading the assault on Baghdad in 2003 and carrying out house-to-house combat in the suppression of resistance in the city of Ramadi. It was the first brigade combat team to be sent to Iraq three times.
While active-duty units previously have been used in temporary assignments, such as the combat-equipped troops deployed in New Orleans, which was effectively placed under martial law in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, this marks the first time that an Army combat unit has been given a dedicated assignment in which US soil constitutes its “battle zone.”
The Pentagon’s official pronouncements have stressed the role of specialized units in a potential response to terrorist attack within the US. Gen. George Casey, the Army chief of staff, attended a training exercise last week for about 250 members of the unit at Fort Stewart, Georgia. The focus of the exercise, according to the Army’s public affairs office, was how troops “might fly search and rescue missions, extract casualties and decontaminate people following a catastrophic nuclear attack in the nation’s heartland.”
“We are at war with a global extremist network that is not going away,” Casey told the soldiers. “I hope we don’t have to use it, but we need the capability.”
However, the mission assigned to the nearly 4,000 troops of the First Brigade Combat Team does not consist merely of rescuing victims of terrorist attacks. An article that appeared earlier this month in the Army Times (“Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1”), a publication that is widely read within the military, paints a different and far more ominous picture.
“They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control,” the paper reports. It quotes the unit’s commander, Col. Robert Cloutier, as saying that the 1st BCT’s soldiers are being trained in the use of “the first ever nonlethal package the Army has fielded.” The weapons, the paper reported, are “designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them.” The equipment includes beanbag bullets, shields and batons and equipment for erecting roadblocks.
It appears that as part of the training for deployment within the US, the soldiers have been ordered to test some of this non-lethal equipment on each other.
“I was the first guy in the brigade to get Tasered,” Cloutier told the Army Times. He described the effects of the electroshock weapon as “your worst muscle cramp ever—times 10 throughout your whole body.”
The colonel’s remark suggests that, in preparation for their “homefront” duties, rank-and-file troops are also being routinely Tasered. The brutalizing effect and intent of such a macabre training exercise is to inure troops against sympathy for the pain and suffering they may be called upon to inflict on the civilian population using these same “non-lethal” weapons.
According to military officials quoted by the Army Times, the deployment of regular Army troops in the US begun with the First Brigade Combat Team is to become permanent, with different units rotated into the assignment on an annual basis.
In an online interview with reporters earlier this month, NorthCom officers were asked about the implications of the new deployment for the Posse Comitatus Act, the 230-year-old legal statute that bars the use of US military forces for law enforcement purposes within the US itself.
Col. Lou Volger, NorthCom’s chief of future operations, tried to downplay any enforcement role, but added, “We will integrate with law enforcement to understand the situation and make sure we’re aware of any threats.”
Volger acknowledged the obvious, that the Brigade Combat Team is a military force, while attempting to dismiss the likelihood that it would play any military role. It “has forces for security,” he said, “but that’s really—they call them security forces, but that’s really just to establish our own footprint and make sure that we can operate and run our own bases.”
Lt. Col. James Shores, another NorthCom officer, chimed in, “Let’s say even if there was a scenario that developed into a branch of a civil disturbance—even at that point it would take a presidential directive to even get it close to anything that you’re suggesting.”
Whatever is required to trigger such an intervention, clearly Col. Cloutier and his troops are preparing for it with their hands-on training in the use of “non-lethal” means of repression.
The extreme sensitivity of the military brass on this issue notwithstanding, the reality is that the intervention of the military in domestic affairs has grown sharply over the last period under conditions in which its involvement in two colonial-style wars abroad has given it a far more prominent role in American political life.
The Bush administration has worked to tear down any barriers to the use of the military in domestic repression. Thus, in the 2007 Pentagon spending bill it inserted a measure to amend the Posse Comitatus Act to clear the way for the domestic deployment of the military in the event of natural disaster, terrorist attack or “other conditions in which the president determines that domestic violence has occurred to the extent that state officials cannot maintain public order.”
The provision granted the president sweeping new powers to impose martial law by declaring a “public emergency” for virtually any reason, allowing him to deploy troops anywhere in the US and to take control of state-based National Guard units without the consent of state governors in order to “suppress public disorder.”
The provision was subsequently repealed by Congress as part of the 2008 military appropriations legislation, but the intent remains. Given the sweeping powers claimed by the White House in the name of the “commander in chief” in a global war on terror—powers to suspend habeas corpus, carry out wholesale domestic spying and conduct torture—there is no reason to believe it would respect legal restrictions against the use of military force at home.
It is noteworthy that the deployment of US combat troops “as an on-call federal response force for natural or manmade emergencies and disasters”—in the words of the Army Times—coincides with the eruption of the greatest economic emergency and financial disaster since the Great Depression of the 1930s.
Justified as a response to terrorist threats, the real source of the growing preparations for the use of US military force within America’s borders lies not in the events of September 11, 2001 or the danger that they will be repeated. Rather, the domestic mobilization of the armed forces is a response by the US ruling establishment to the growing threat to political stability.
Under conditions of deepening economic crisis, the unprecedented social chasm separating the country’s working people from the obscenely wealthy financial elite becomes unsustainable within the existing political framework.

Fear not the deception around you. This will all bring the truths into the light.

The deceivers deceit, is falling apart all around us...

Love all...

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Originally Posted by suriel

Don't get me wrong, now if Darth Vader comes out and the soldiers become Storm Troopers that may be a different way at looking at things.

To use your own analogy, Darth Vader was one time Anakin Skywalker- a hero of the Clone Wars to the very races he later oppressed, and the Stormtroopers started out as the Clone Army- defenders of the republic. The soldiers might have family's, but even family men proved to be victims to perceived authority, as demonstrated by Milgram's infamous experiment.

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Originally Posted by suriel

Don't worry. There are only about 14,000 soldiers in that brigade. And there are at least 8,000,000 people in New York city. There are roughly about 300,000,000 people in the United States. Do the math.

You wanted are troops to come home. Well there you go. And we may need those troops in case brigades of people start killing for gas and food. There is always a positive way of viewing things.

We deal with crime everyday. It is even more important to insure the safety of our citizens in the United States.

This may be needed to have a smooth transition in a new economic structure.
We are going through many changes. Remember, police and soldiers have families and loved ones. They are people like you and me.

They are also trying to support their families.

Don't get me wrong, now if Darth Vader comes out and the soldiers become Storm Troopers that may be a different way at looking at things. But creating paranoia based off of the fears of Martial Law will only spread more negativity. And since you are co-creators, you may actually get what you fear the most. You are creating this reality.

Get out of the fear web and take control of your powers. Create and imagine what you want for the United States. Meditate and create the positive results. Do this everyday and watch the magic happen.

Peace.

P.S. this may be my last post since tommorow is October 1st. So friends it was nice knowing you. Peace be with all of you and create a bright loving future for all of us.

i agree w questiny, that info can be taken in 2 ways, fear or love...i think it gives you power to make choices and to be proactive for your own safety according to what you believe is true. so i also don't want to add to the fear, but it's important to get info out to people.

suriel, according to alex jones, phil schneider and other interviews, there are over 300,000 UN troops secretly here already so that changes the numbers of troops per poplulation...