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Old 09-18-2008, 02:47 AM   #1
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Sorry it should say, "Independent Source said the US may declare Economic Emergency"


An ex bank owner who had a bank in Hong Kong told me independently (besides the Sorchia Faal article) and without solicitation that an Economic Emergency is planned to take place in the US IF (the person did say IF) the markets cannot stabilize. The US government has put in well over $100 billion to keep the markets from seizing. The biggest concern given was that the amount of volume associated with today's trades on the downside. It was well over 1 billion shares traded today just on the downside.

I find it interesting on the heels of the Sorchia Faal article. This individual does live in Asia.

I am just passing it along.
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Old 09-18-2008, 02:53 AM   #2
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Old 09-18-2008, 02:54 AM   #3
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Thanks for sharing Questiny, and hopefully no one drops any dis-info bombs on you. Thanks for also being clear!

Oh, if you include Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, supposedly it's up to $200 billion to rescue the companies, or was, I don't know, it's not really clear, but some economists have estimates up to $2.5 trillion in the long run (2008 US Budget is 'supposedly' $2.66 trillon). So really it's more like $285 billion they've dropped so far which is almost 11% of the projected budget, $240 billion already which we didn't have (in terms of income, $2.42 trillion, from taxes).
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Old 09-18-2008, 02:58 AM   #4
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Thanks for sharing Questiny, and hopefully no one drops any dis-info bombs on you. Thanks for also being clear!
This individual has been know to panic in the past. But I still wanted to pass it along due to the connections this person has. If it were true it most likely would come from this person.
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Old 09-18-2008, 03:02 AM   #5
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An ex bank owner who had a bank in Hong Kong told me independently (besides the Sorchia Faal article) and without solicitation that an Economic Emergency is planned to take place in the US IF (the person did say IF) the markets cannot stabilize.

"We have lost control," said Hale, quoting Bernanke. "We cannot stabilize the dollar. We cannot control commodity prices."


http://www.chicagotribune.com/busine...,4833605.story
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Old 09-18-2008, 03:02 AM   #6
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Thanks for sharing Questiny, and hopefully no one drops any dis-info bombs on you. Thanks for also being clear!

Oh, if you include Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, supposedly it's up to $200 billion to rescue the companies, or was, I don't know, it's not really clear, but some economists have estimates up to $2.5 trillion in the long run (2008 US Budget is 'supposedly' $2.66 trillon). So really it's more like $285 billion they've dropped so far which is almost 11% of the projected budget, $240 billion already which we didn't have (in terms of income, $2.42 trillion, from taxes).

The 2.5 trillion you mention may not be "long term" since many estimate that to be the amount of "toxic" securities that Fannie and Freddie held, now transferred to the Fed. If that figure is true, I can't imagine that the "reckoning" can be staved off for very long.
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Old 09-18-2008, 03:11 AM   #7
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"We have lost control," said Hale, quoting Bernanke. "We cannot stabilize the dollar. We cannot control commodity prices."


http://www.chicagotribune.com/busine...,4833605.story
Well that wasn't helpful

I'd rather sit by the campfire singing Cumbia with all of you giving group hugs.
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Old 09-18-2008, 03:14 AM   #8
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This was just sent to me: I will start a thread on this too.


DHS: Terror operation in U.S., Europe possibly imminent
Just a heads up. Practice your situational awareness and be alert. This may amount to nothing more than propaganda, as asserted in the alert, it still behooves us to be aware and ready for anything.



http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/

Intelligence: Terror operation in U.S., Europe possibly imminent

Islamic terrorist operatives reportedly dispatched, in place, and possibly ready to execute terrorist operation in U.S., Europe

"Pray for the successes of our brothers in America & Europe. Expect 'good news' soon." Posted by Arabic speaking Islamic terrorist supporter

By Douglas J. Hagmann, Director

17 September 2008: A disturbing communication posted in a high level Arabic language forum suggests that some type of terrorist operation is currently underway, targeting sites within the United States and Europe. According to information developed within the last 24 hours by a deep-cover intelligence operative, Islamic terrorists have been dispatched to the U.S. and Europe and may be in place, preparing to execute unspecified terrorist attacks within the U.S. and Europe.

Neither the targets nor the types of attacks were able to be identified from an analysis of the communications, although it appears possible that the European and American operations could be conducted in tandem. Also unclear is the timetable of potential attacks, although the wording pertaining to the "anticipated celebration" of the success of such attacks suggests that they will be carried out within the next few days.

While many such threats by Islamic terrorists are published constantly and end up being nothing more than propaganda, it is important to note that the origin and nature of the communications isolated here meet a significantly higher standard of evidence for threat evaluation purposes. As such, it is the recommendation of this agency that individual awareness of any suspicious activity be stepped up accordingly, and immediately reported to the appropriate law enforcement agency.

Increased vigilance by law enforcement and security professionals is also urged, especially at areas of likely "hard" targets such as our infrastructure.
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Old 09-18-2008, 03:16 AM   #9
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Well that wasn't helpful

I'd rather sit by the campfire singing Cumbia with all of you giving group hugs.


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Old 09-18-2008, 03:18 AM   #10
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The Asian markets are tanking. Nikkei down 371.
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Old 09-18-2008, 03:20 AM   #11
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The beginning of the End is Near
Behold The New Golden Ages
So Be It
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Old 09-18-2008, 03:20 AM   #12
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This was just sent to me: I will start a thread on this too.


DHS: Terror operation in U.S., Europe possibly imminent
Just a heads up. Practice your situational awareness and be alert. This may amount to nothing more than propaganda, as asserted in the alert, it still behooves us to be aware and ready for anything.



http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/

Intelligence: Terror operation in U.S., Europe possibly imminent

Islamic terrorist operatives reportedly dispatched, in place, and possibly ready to execute terrorist operation in U.S., Europe

"Pray for the successes of our brothers in America & Europe. Expect 'good news' soon." Posted by Arabic speaking Islamic terrorist supporter

By Douglas J. Hagmann, Director

17 September 2008: A disturbing communication posted in a high level Arabic language forum suggests that some type of terrorist operation is currently underway, targeting sites within the United States and Europe. According to information developed within the last 24 hours by a deep-cover intelligence operative, Islamic terrorists have been dispatched to the U.S. and Europe and may be in place, preparing to execute unspecified terrorist attacks within the U.S. and Europe.

Neither the targets nor the types of attacks were able to be identified from an analysis of the communications, although it appears possible that the European and American operations could be conducted in tandem. Also unclear is the timetable of potential attacks, although the wording pertaining to the "anticipated celebration" of the success of such attacks suggests that they will be carried out within the next few days.

While many such threats by Islamic terrorists are published constantly and end up being nothing more than propaganda, it is important to note that the origin and nature of the communications isolated here meet a significantly higher standard of evidence for threat evaluation purposes. As such, it is the recommendation of this agency that individual awareness of any suspicious activity be stepped up accordingly, and immediately reported to the appropriate law enforcement agency.

Increased vigilance by law enforcement and security professionals is also urged, especially at areas of likely "hard" targets such as our infrastructure.
smells like "false flag"
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Old 09-18-2008, 03:28 AM   #13
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smells like "false flag"
Agree, why advertise what needs to shock in surprise from a "terrorist" point of view?
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Old 09-18-2008, 03:30 AM   #14
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http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle4775065.ece
Fears of further financial casualties abound
Morgan Stanley shares plummet by more than 40 per cent while the US Government tries to arrange rescue of WaMuSusan Thompson and agencies

The 'domino effect'-mass panics ensue and once panic sets in anything is fair game-'rules' go out the window.
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Old 09-18-2008, 04:10 AM   #15
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Keep your eye on an announcement very soon regarding a Swiss bank going down.
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Old 09-18-2008, 04:20 AM   #16
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I feel like we're on our own trading floor of Wall Street with a dash of the Chicago Tribune newsroom haha.

"Terrorist attack, imminent, imminent!"
"Where, Where? I need to know where damnit!"
"U.S., Europe, U.S., Europe"
"Eh, false flag drop it, go with the Asia Market"
"The asia markets crashing!"
"Damnit, it looks like Morgan Stanley then."
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Old 09-18-2008, 10:16 AM   #17
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I feel like we're on our own trading floor of Wall Street with a dash of the Chicago Tribune newsroom haha.

"Terrorist attack, imminent, imminent!"
"Where, Where? I need to know where damnit!"
"U.S., Europe, U.S., Europe"
"Eh, false flag drop it, go with the Asia Market"
"The asia markets crashing!"
"Damnit, it looks like Morgan Stanley then."
Yeah totallly.

We're all over the place. The words 'headless' and 'chickens' spring to mind
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Old 09-18-2008, 02:37 PM   #18
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I soooo appreciate the keen wits and healthy senses of humor in the face of all the 'intelligence' tsunamis that break over us.
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Old 09-18-2008, 03:08 PM   #19
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Yup, I smell false flag, which equals diversion from the problem of $$$$, or lack of it. I'm going to the bank today and pulling all my money. It's doing nothing in there anyway except losing value! Buy some silver and food with it, that's tangible!
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Old 09-18-2008, 04:11 PM   #20
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At least you have money in an account to pull out. This economy has caused my "living pay check to pay check" to have a whole new meaning. "It's the end of the world as we know it." (but I feel fine)
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Old 09-18-2008, 04:13 PM   #21
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I trade daily on the Forex, Commodities, and Stock markets. I'll post a screen shot of the software I use based off of Elliott Wave tech. that shows the DOW's market direction.

Currently the DOW is tanking.

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Old 09-18-2008, 04:17 PM   #22
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I trade daily on the Forex, Commodities, and Stock markets. I'll post a screen shot of the software I use based off of Elliott Wave tech. that shows the DOW's market direction.

Currently the DOW is tanking.

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Jonathan. You need to make a thread on Elliot Wave. Or would you like me to do it? I think this is very important to understand how this too affects the markets.

I used to trade Forex through FXCM. I got killed!!! If your making money you a smarter at it than me.
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Old 09-18-2008, 04:43 PM   #23
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I have thread on using Elliottwave tech. and my trades with it here.

This is the most current page on the thread.:

http://forums.elliottician.com/index.php?topic=242.240


I have a yahoo group on my trading plan here. The trading plan part two is usable without the Elliott wave software I use, but I am always happy to do wave charts for people on request in our chat room which is the second link below...


The trading plan and group here, The files section contains the trading plan part 2 and all directions.

http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/grou...-Trading-Plan/

our chat room which is mostly mornings is here:

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Download the software, register, run the trading room app and look under the community trading rooms tab for RET and RET Pro, RET is Elliott wave software we use.

Any other questions, look for a new NOOB to Elliottwave Thread in the forum here under the finance heading. I'll answer any and all questions for ya.

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Old 09-18-2008, 04:52 PM   #24
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I, personally, would get out of the stock market as soon as possible.


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Old 09-18-2008, 04:57 PM   #25
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I, personally, would get out of the stock market as soon as possible.


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I did that last November. That's the money I used to buy the farm. No pun intended.
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