The great shift 2012 and what its about

yiolas · 10-03-2009, 11:07 AM

This is one of the best interviews that I have heard about 2012 and the spiritual and physical consciousness shift that we are due to go through. Bob Fissell is the author of "Nothing in this book is true but it's exactly how things are" He talks about 2012, planet x, ascension, the shift and how we can survive this. His web site is: http://www.bobfrissell.com/ His knowledge and grasp of the material is very comprehensive. A must see.

lindabaker · 10-03-2009, 11:42 AM

Hello to Cyprus! Thank you. I read Bob's book a long long time ago and it was good to have it brought once again to my attention.

Swanny · 10-03-2009, 12:18 PM

Hey I read that book a long long time ago, bought it in Australia back in 1997
Great stuff

yiolas · 10-03-2009, 06:22 PM

Between Bob Frissell, Drunvalo Melchizedek, Ivan Stein and George Kavassilas I think that I finally have a well rounded picture as to what is going on. I think it's time to finally put to use what I have been learning recently.
Before I finish with this post though, I would like to put something more out there...
It really surprises and irks me that I have been on this earth for 50 years and have spent 12 years in the public school system and 6 years at university and no one taught us these truths ! I've been a church member, have regularly read newspapers since the age of 16, have had hundreds of friends and connections. Why isn't this common knowledge ? Why isn't this taught in schools, at least at the college level? It saddens and infuriates me that our children are still taught useless things and misinformation in school. I have nephews and nieces in the United States who are in college now, one of them is studying to be a doctor. Let me tell you, they are completely indoctrinated to conform and work within the system. When I get the chance to talk to them about my beliefs, they smile nervously, bless their hearts. They don't reject what I am proposing to them, but they don't know where to fit information like that into their lives.
In fact that can be true for any of us. How can you reconcile in your heart, holding down a regular 9 to 5 job and knowing that you are just pawn for the matrix and a worker for the old paradigm. 2012 and the great shift cant' come soon enough for me. I cant wait to break out of this 3d jail and spread my wings!!

Swanny · 10-04-2009, 09:32 PM

The truth scares the hell out of them, they don't want to stop believing the lies they have been told, what would they do with themselves if everything they had built lives around disappeared?? They may or may not like some of the stuff they are told but at least they feel secure with it.
I watch them as I travel around, it amazes me that they are so unaware of what is really going on

TheObserver · 10-05-2009, 01:33 AM

Even if 2012 isn't anything or an inaccurate depiction of what does happen, just the fact people talk about 'shift of consciousness' IS a shift of consciousness.
And perhaps in the future this period of time will called the Great Questioning or something like that.

Steven · 10-05-2009, 09:51 PM

Hello Yiolas. You might want to give a look at these information as well.

Here is about systems thinking as an evolution of our linear thinking.

Systems Thinking: Ancient Maya’s Evolution of Consciousness and Contemporary Systems Thinking
Ass Prof Tadeja Jere Lazanski, PhD
University of Primorska,
Faculty of Tourism Studies-TURISTICA
Portoroz,Slovenia

http://www.turistica.si/downloads/ob...iPrispevek.pdf

Here is Carl Johan Calleman, a serious researcher about the mayan calendar and one of the few on who many are building their own theory about 2012. His website is:

http://www.calleman.com/

Here is the pyramid of the evolution of consciousness of Humanity. We are currently on the 8th step. The whole evolution began 16 billions of years ago.

http://www.calleman.com/content/pyra...sciousness.htm

And here is an interview with the man:

http://mayanmajix.com/lab_F1.html

It is all about evolution of human consciousness. No polar shift. No devastating climatic event. But a tremendous shift in human consciousness which will cause some major positive change for the future. A new Human is coming...

Namaste, Steven

yiolas · 10-07-2009, 08:55 PM

Thank-you Steven for the links. I will review them as soon as I have a chance. I've got a full schedule these days. My question to those that have read Bob Frissell's books is about the Merkabah. He states in this interview that anyone can be protected by whatever happens during the shift by their Merkabah. Any suggestions as to finding out more this. I'm aware of what it is ( our protective light body that can be used to travel between dimensions) I would like to find out more about how it can be strengthened via meditation or other means.

Thanks,

10-03-2009, 11:07 AM	#1
yiolas Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Nicosia, Cyprus Posts: 133	The great shift 2012 and what its about This is one of the best interviews that I have heard about 2012 and the spiritual and physical consciousness shift that we are due to go through. Bob Fissell is the author of "Nothing in this book is true but it's exactly how things are" He talks about 2012, planet x, ascension, the shift and how we can survive this. His web site is: http://www.bobfrissell.com/ His knowledge and grasp of the material is very comprehensive. A must see.

10-03-2009, 11:42 AM	#2
lindabaker Avalon Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 504	Re: The great shift 2012 and what its about Hello to Cyprus! Thank you. I read Bob's book a long long time ago and it was good to have it brought once again to my attention.

10-03-2009, 12:18 PM	#3
Swanny I dont need a label ! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Shire of Wilt Posts: 2,889	Re: The great shift 2012 and what its about Hey I read that book a long long time ago, bought it in Australia back in 1997 Great stuff

10-03-2009, 06:22 PM	#4
yiolas Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Nicosia, Cyprus Posts: 133	Re: The great shift 2012 and what its about Between Bob Frissell, Drunvalo Melchizedek, Ivan Stein and George Kavassilas I think that I finally have a well rounded picture as to what is going on. I think it's time to finally put to use what I have been learning recently. Before I finish with this post though, I would like to put something more out there... It really surprises and irks me that I have been on this earth for 50 years and have spent 12 years in the public school system and 6 years at university and no one taught us these truths ! I've been a church member, have regularly read newspapers since the age of 16, have had hundreds of friends and connections. Why isn't this common knowledge ? Why isn't this taught in schools, at least at the college level? It saddens and infuriates me that our children are still taught useless things and misinformation in school. I have nephews and nieces in the United States who are in college now, one of them is studying to be a doctor. Let me tell you, they are completely indoctrinated to conform and work within the system. When I get the chance to talk to them about my beliefs, they smile nervously, bless their hearts. They don't reject what I am proposing to them, but they don't know where to fit information like that into their lives. In fact that can be true for any of us. How can you reconcile in your heart, holding down a regular 9 to 5 job and knowing that you are just pawn for the matrix and a worker for the old paradigm. 2012 and the great shift cant' come soon enough for me. I cant wait to break out of this 3d jail and spread my wings!!

10-04-2009, 09:32 PM	#5
Swanny I dont need a label ! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Shire of Wilt Posts: 2,889	Re: The great shift 2012 and what its about The truth scares the hell out of them, they don't want to stop believing the lies they have been told, what would they do with themselves if everything they had built lives around disappeared?? They may or may not like some of the stuff they are told but at least they feel secure with it. I watch them as I travel around, it amazes me that they are so unaware of what is really going on

10-05-2009, 01:33 AM	#6
TheObserver Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: back in Minnesota Posts: 500	Re: The great shift 2012 and what its about Even if 2012 isn't anything or an inaccurate depiction of what does happen, just the fact people talk about 'shift of consciousness' IS a shift of consciousness. And perhaps in the future this period of time will called the Great Questioning or something like that.

10-05-2009, 09:51 PM	#7
Steven Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Temiscouata Posts: 873	Re: The great shift 2012 and what its about Hello Yiolas. You might want to give a look at these information as well. Here is about systems thinking as an evolution of our linear thinking. Systems Thinking: Ancient Maya’s Evolution of Consciousness and Contemporary Systems Thinking Ass Prof Tadeja Jere Lazanski, PhD University of Primorska, Faculty of Tourism Studies-TURISTICA Portoroz,Slovenia http://www.turistica.si/downloads/ob...iPrispevek.pdf Here is Carl Johan Calleman, a serious researcher about the mayan calendar and one of the few on who many are building their own theory about 2012. His website is: http://www.calleman.com/ Here is the pyramid of the evolution of consciousness of Humanity. We are currently on the 8th step. The whole evolution began 16 billions of years ago. http://www.calleman.com/content/pyra...sciousness.htm And here is an interview with the man: http://mayanmajix.com/lab_F1.html It is all about evolution of human consciousness. No polar shift. No devastating climatic event. But a tremendous shift in human consciousness which will cause some major positive change for the future. A new Human is coming... Namaste, Steven Last edited by Steven; 10-05-2009 at 09:54 PM.

10-07-2009, 08:55 PM	#8
yiolas Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Nicosia, Cyprus Posts: 133	Re: The great shift 2012 and what its about Thank-you Steven for the links. I will review them as soon as I have a chance. I've got a full schedule these days. My question to those that have read Bob Frissell's books is about the Merkabah. He states in this interview that anyone can be protected by whatever happens during the shift by their Merkabah. Any suggestions as to finding out more this. I'm aware of what it is ( our protective light body that can be used to travel between dimensions) I would like to find out more about how it can be strengthened via meditation or other means. Thanks,