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Just a thought everyone: despite the mass of credible evidence available to the public regarding a conspiracy against mankind it still seems to me that the masses are so absorbed in sport, mindless soaps, the cult of celebrity, gratuitous violence in movies and video games and a dog eat dog attitude and service to self pleasure centred reality that there will never be an awakening, at least not for a long time. I suppose I've just got frustrated over the last 12 years that virtually no-one will listen to the information I've come across and just don't buy the conspiracy claiming that if it was true it would have leaked out and be in the mainstream media and that it is 'human nature' to kill and do evil and this will never change. These can be quite difficult arguments to overcome, especially with people who blindly accept the status quo. It appears to me that the powers that be have it all wrapped up. The vast majority of people blindly accepted 14 million CCTV cameras in the UK and I don't think most people would refuse microchips either if it meant they didn't have to carry a wallet around. It is frustrating that the truth is still so fringe and that truly open souls are restricted to forums like this and don't have a bigger platform. I will always hope but the vast majority already seem to be mind-contolled lemmings. Anyway rant over!
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I remember a line from the Handbook for a New Paradigm, something along the lines of the story of life on earth at this time being "the Perils of Pauline of the Galaxy". Think of the situation as high drama - a story with a lesson not just for us, but for all those who are watching us. The good guys are few and poorly equipped. The bad guys seem to have all the advantages and take what seems to be total control. Then, somehow, a chink in the armor is found and the evil system is defeated.
No, I don't expect a wonderful awakening and everything is better with no struggle. The struggle is the point. It would be a boring story otherwise. |
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Hi Rory,
The fact that we aremeeting here in this forum does not mean that we are the owners of the absolute truth. However, as Robert Dean once said, "The information is out there, you just have to do your homework". The problem is that hardly anyone wants to do their homework. It's not that they're lazy, as they're channeling their energy in knowledge about football (in my case speedway when I was a kid) and other easily accessible information that is out there. It's called having a hobby. The rest of the time thay beleive that they need to hold down a job and have a certain lifestyle. That's the competative side manifesting itself. Also many beleive that they should behave in a certain religious way. Their submissive side. Whilst you are concentrating on these aspects of your life, you're missing other things. It's merely a case of priority and availability. Best regards, Steve Quote:
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I feel that there is only one captain on this ship and his name is ineffable. Anything that happens is because he wills it for the betterment of all mankind.
There is no conspiracy in the way the masses think there is,things just is,and as long as man stay in the receiving mode vs a constant state of giving like creation.He will continue to be a slave to his senses and the four elements. A Cons pi racy,is to conceal the divine formula for pi.This is why the Pi rate wore the patch over the right eye,in order to see beyond this and that ,good and evil, right and wrong. There is a planetary awakening.The collective is like a human tapestry, where one changed thread can cause major change in the entire construct.We as one stream of consciousness is accelerateing back to the source, and to think that there is some opposing force, is to serve other gods.. Last edited by 777 The Great Work; 03-04-2009 at 04:20 PM. |
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Can you type any smaller 777? LOL! or should I say smaller, HaHa
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There is no conspiracy in the way the masses think there is,things just is,and as long as man stay in the receiving mode vs a constant state of giving like creation.He will continue to be a slave to his senses and the four elements. A Cons pi racy,is to conceal the divine formula for pi.This is why the Pi rate wore the patch over the right eye,in order to see beyond this and that ,good and evil, right and wrong. There is a planetary awakening.The collective is like a human tapestry, where one changed thread can cause major change in the entire construct.We as one stream of consciousness is accelerateing back to the source, and to think that there is some opposing force, is to serve other gods. Now i can't see. ![]() ![]() |
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Yes you make a good point Steve. I don't blame people for being absorbed in the survival struggle and then becoming immersed in hobbies that help them destress and recover from the daily grind - we all do this and it is a necessary part of life on this plane. I just find it interesting how the sheep will keep the other sheep in line and be the proverbial sheep-dog by stringently opposing anything that contradicts the status quo and by ridiculing those who question the norm. I often find myself applauding the genius of those pulling the wool over people eyes that their mind game is so successful that it polices itself. Too true that we certainly don't have all the answers just because we are on this forum however we are open to other perspectives and sadly that is a rare quality. It takes a massive amount of courage to be prepared to have your whole world view turned on it's head and I don't blame people for defending their way of life. It just seems that the vast majority are not open to alternative views and while these views remain in the minority it will be difficult to have a mass change in consciousness. I've heard it said that it would take something indisputable to happen to change things but then these days most things are disputable. Christ I could be completely wrong about all this but I am always open to having my opinion changed if the right evidence comes along. If I wasn't then I wouldn't even be here!! ![]() |
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Do we really have a choice regarding work? Yes i would love to live differently but with a job no money no living basically The way we live i agree must change but until the mass see that change is needed those who favour change have no choice i feel. We still have to eat to survive well in this reality at least! |
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Hey Rory......
I think that the controlled financial meltdown is a grave tactical error on the part of the PTB. Do they really think that most people actually love their Money Power Grids? I think that once people get even a glimpse of what we could all be doing without the superstructure it'll be a landslide of awesome proportions... and possibly overnight........ 'they' are doing what they usually do, barefaced outrageous manipulation, but this time, they're out of time. I think what they're doing is to try to create a massive floating point of fear and trauma in the masses which they will then offer to salve, but by then I think it will be clear that you cannot trust a single word any of them say, and 'they' will be in a great deal of trouble, Nexus energy beams or no...... Anyhow, this will also be of great relief to them [and us of course] as they can now go and work off their karma elsewhere [if the hidden hand and others are correct]... Also, as we are all one, the fact that we have changed or woken up and are now active in places like this is subtly affecting everyone else on the planet. Just an afterthought.......remember, though, that no-one is coming. And if anyone does come, you can be sure they are no good, as they are breaking the rules. shine the light! |
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I don't consider the occasional enjoyment of sport, movies or video games to be mindless. I believe that when we become OBSESSED with all three, that problems start to develop. We are all here for a ride and when we die, we will go somewhere else. As long as we are here, might as well sample the things that we'll find in this lifetime. When you make sports, video games or movies a PRIORITY in your life, you are going too far. |
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The subjects at Avalon are not "new age" to me. Some of them are common sense! New Age by itself is a movement meant to make money for people who pretend to be "gurus" and other enlightened beings. It placates their ego. I don't consider Avalon or Camelot to be part of any new age hoax. It is simply common sense in some cases.
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Not everyone in the new age movement is out to fleece people and much wonderful work has been done. It is certainly true that more often than not the most profound spiritual truths are very simple. logical and inexpensive!
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Hi Jacqui D,
With all due respect, I was a little suprised by your answer. Do we have a choice regarding work? Of course we do! We decide what we want to do. Unfortunately people allow circumstance to define what they do. It's all wrong. I need to work for someone. Wrong! I need to work to feed my family. Wrong! I need to work so I can buy the things I want. Wrong! It's all wrong. I have never been ashamed of being poor. I have passed by some really bad times in the UK when I left home at 17 years of age. But I decided to never backtrack and always move forward. A few years ago I read the book "The Art of War" by Tzun Zu. This book confirmed my thinking of always moving forward, saying that we had to 'burn our bridges' so that we couldn't go back even if we wanted to, that we would be encouraged to fight tougher because of it. Since I was 22 years old I left the UK and became a musician / vocalist (I was already semi-pro in the UK). I travelled a great deal, made some good friends on the way and got by very very well, thank you very much. I worked whenever I wanted, I mixed with whomever I wanted, travelled wherever I wanted. It was all down to me. I enjoyed it so much I didn't even consider it work. I've been on holiday for over 25 years!! I don't see the intelligence in working 40 hours a week to buy food for a family. It's like the old saying that modern man works all week to feed his family and the cavemen worked a day to feed his family for a month. I tend to look a little in between. I have a small farm that satisfies some of what I need and I try and swap or sell what I grow for the other things that I need. We seriously need to think about if we want to rule our lives or allow our lives to rule us. Working to buy things we want is relative. We need to ask ourselves if what we want is too much. That was the main cause of the problem with the US economy, they have been living above their means. So they become their own slaves to try and pay off debt. Although I do have seven credit cards, they are only for unforseen circumstances and are paid off immediately. If I aint got it, I can't have it. So basically that's my way of life and I must say, without trying to be arrogant, it has worked for me. Many people get into trouble by allowing peer group pressure, advertising, social etiquete etc. etc. get in the way. I'm not saying that everybody should live the same life, but what I'm trying to say is that we need to set the bar as to what we want out of life and not the other way around. Best regards, Steve Quote:
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Hi all, Jacqui d is right until we get shot of money we are all slaves to the rich mans system .Thats why they are running scared at this present time with the colLapse of the markets , done for ulterior motives of course.Everthing is done for a reason so you don't look at whats realy going on around you .People, family members, watching soaps so they don't look at reality, smoke and mirrors its all smoke and mirrors .I keep telling what I know to others, some listen and take it in others don't want to know .So I keep telling, thats all one can do .KEEP IT GOING GUYS
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The PTB are awakening a sleeping worldwide giant. My fantasy (delusion?) is that the controlled demolition of the world economy will be blamed on the New World Order (it's the economy stupid!)...and the backlash will result in Worldwide Constitutional Responsible Freedom...complete with Non-Private Central Banks Issuing Sound Money. This would be the True World Order (TWO). We may finally achieve a Unified World...with No War...No Debt...and No Tyranny. I'm a naive dreamer. Go naive dreamers! Last edited by orthodoxymoron; 03-06-2009 at 11:11 AM. |
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