Bye Bye Whistleblowers.

[Carol]

Originally Posted by jaby

What ever happened to loyalty?


And a little understanding that times are tough, in regards to disinformation and dishonesty. That Kerry and Bill could be under enormous pressure in various ways.

A little empathy would be good, maybe?

And if you don't like what a whistleblower has to say...disregard it.

But more importantly...trust that other members here are perfectly
capable of making their own minds up about what whistleblowers say.

Loyalty to whom and for what? You forget we were behind the scenes and saw what really went on. When there is no loyalty given to the volunteers who put in countless hours to putting this forum together and running it all for free.. then no loyalty is owed from us who do know the truth of the matter.

As for some of the whistleblowers.. I like Bob Dean (whom I suspect is also pushing a different illuminati line). Many of the others who have had alien contact very well may have been subject to mind control and so therefore, their testimony is subject to critical analysis. How do we know that those witnesses who had alien contact with the greys are not still being manipulated and controlled by the greys? The greys are masters at mind control and implanting screened memories. The greys have their own agenda and it is not to help humans but instead is to serve themselves at humans expense. I've since discovered the test of a real witness... one who is not contaminated or influenced by evil influence is the wake they leave following their interactions with others. If people feel uplifted and renewed then it is a good thing. If folks feel agitation, fear, angry or confused... then the exchange is not so good. This means that the witness is not resonating at a higher vibrational frequency and therefore is subject to negative influences. Remember the old saying "like attracts like?"

Just because someone claims to be a witness doesn't mean that what they have to share is the real deal. They may not know themselves how their memory has been manipulated.

BTW, if you want to check when the last time someone logged in just go to their bio page. It's listed there. When I check Bill his last log in was December 8, 2008 of last year and for Kerry 6/30/09.

[Tango]

iainl,

Nice Find... Good Work; research...


Trooly,

Tango

[THE eXchanger]

xxx

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by eXchanger

would you like me to ask him ???

That's up to you!!

I see his name when I click on the first hyperlink in the article. Does that make him the author of the whole article? Guess so, but I would like for others to agree or disagree.

[Karen]

Yeah the forum is back up!

[THE eXchanger]

xxx

[Carol]

This also happened to a few other of these types of websites today. Interesting.

[Karen]

Originally Posted by mu2143 View Post
...Btw I did found this web site just a moment ago about Drunvalo Melchizedek.
http://www.whale.to/b/melchizedek_h.html ...

Seashore replied: Let's establish the author of the article linked above.
Is it Don Croft?

This is quotes from 3 people.

Don Croft wrote the first part about Don Bradley and then there is a link back to the longer writing that it was taken from.

Same for the second part.

Then there is the part with the all caps taken from WIOLAWA's (Barbara Crouse-Brown) writings about herself.
http://www.whale.to/b/wiolawa_h.html
http://www.wiolawapress.com/

And the last paragraph is from Credo Mutwa
[Interview] CREDO MUTWA On Alien Abduction & Reptilians
http://www.whale.to/b/mutwa.html

[Karen]

Originally Posted by seashore

That's up to you!!

I see his name when I click on the first hyperlink in the article. Does that make him the author of the whole article? Guess so, but I would like for others to agree or disagree.

These are quotes from 3 people as explained in my previous post to this thread.
Don Croft speaking about DB/Don Bradley
WIOLAWA (Barbara Crouse-Brown)
Credo Mutwa

[Karen]

Originally Posted by Anchor

Did you think that the material reference on that link had any credibility ?

I am not judging your intuition - like if you have a bad feeling about the guy or his books that is great, go with the intuition, but in order to actually state (as if it were a proven fact) that the guy is satanic it would probably be better to have some solid information to base that on.

Otherwise its just your opinion, which I respect, but may not agree with.

A..

I think it has credibility - it is reports from 3 different people gathered into one presentation, with link that you can follow to read each in context. There are more reports out there if you do a search. Drunvalo though may be like Don Bradley and may be being used without his knowledge by the illuminati - I really don't know on that one. DB reports that Drunvalo took DB's place when DB became enlightened to the facts and bailed.

It's one of those puzzles where you gather the pieces from here and there and see how they fit. It is one area where I've done a lot of searching. I fell for the New Age Con hook, line and sinker. There's also a writing out there on the net about Sex, Drugs and Rock N Roll and where all that came from - Tavistock social engineering institute. Wreck the family, destroy Christianity, make the music satanic, highjack the youth, etc., etc., and rip apart the fabric of society. Easier to conquer us that way! Those church and family ties were just too strong to get in much divide and conquer, so they went covert.

[Karen]

Originally Posted by Tango

Karen,
YOU keep grouping K & B together... NO, I'm not misunderstanding anything.
Bill, is responsible for 'his' actions... Kerry, is responsible for 'her' actions.
Why, should Bill, catch flak for Kerry's actions. [snip]
I understand the control of the site is Not yours... I looked into it, in my
own way. And, 'I do' know what you have to go thru when something has
to be delt with. And, I'm Sorry; Kerry is difficult to deal with; and I'll just
leave it there. Cause, I know a lot more than You think... That is why
I don't like the statement " They " [Over N' out].

Yes, Tango, you are misunderstanding. I'm pretty sure all this started with a quote from their radio show. I'm 95% certain it was close to "We've been attacked on our own forum." So who is it that is sticking them together. It wasn't me. However they are still a team. I asked her and Kerry did not see your critique of her. There is email contact on the Camelot site if you want to go that route.

My conversation with Kerry today.

About 2:30 PDT I was getting on the computer and checking out the new posts for the day when it soon became apparent the forum had gone down – dern it, I had just gotten on. A check on Camelot revealed the same. I skyped Gareth and he said it was probably a denial of service attack. If I understand correctly this is when “they” send so many hits to the site that it shuts down. He said the host would be notified and would fix it probably within the hour. After 2 hours I called Kerry Cassidy to inform her both sites were down. Kerry is quite easy to get ahold of when I pick up the phone. My complaint about the difficulty with it has more to do with a back room issue of no one wanting to make the contact in the past. If any communication was ever instigated on behalf of the mod team, it was me that took the initiative. If you want clarity on a issue just pick up the derned phone.

So I informed Kerry both sites were down and also took the opportunity to ask if she checks in on the forum at all and she said no, it had been quite a while. Now these are my words for the explanation not her exact words – the whirlwind that is Project Camelot has swept them both up into a incredible flurry of issues and business to attend to, especially now with the Whistleblower Radio Show. There has simply been no time to check in on the forum to see how things are going.

Bill and Kerry are a team, they are a they. They are both in the interviews, they are both on the radio show. Now I’ve heard moderators say, yes but when they were in Australia, they kept in touch with the moderator team. OK that was then and this is now. I ask you to imagine how this thing has spiraled in size and scope since Australia so that they simply have no time to participate here. I don’t believe as some accuse that it’s a case of money-grubbing, turn the forum paid and then callously take off.

Then I asked her how then did she know people on their own forum had been trashing them as she reported on a recent radio show. Oh, that was a long time ago she said. So I inquired further, then you haven’t heard of the latest flurry of criticism on the forum about your interview with Greer? No she had no idea what was going on with the forum. But she had indeed heard plenty of criticism and plenty of compliments as well.

I had a short conversation with her about the incident with Burisch over beliefs about vaccines and Dan and Marcia’s subsequent actions. Bill and Kerry do not wish to get caught up in any public discussion of the matter and the misinterpretations that are being told about them.

We ended with a short convo about all that they have found out about everything and what they have revealed is just a tiny fraction of how deep and how black it goes, (no details, I didn’t ask and don’t want to know) and then she signed off to call the hosting company. I think she said black, with emphasis, about 5 times.

I guarantee everyone 95% of the time when someone makes ASSured ASSumptions about a person’s motives or intent or actions – they are going to be wrong. I see it all the time! My ASSumption that someone probably reported the trashing to them was wrong as Kerry was speaking of incidents in the early days of the forum when Bill and Kerry were still participating. And yes, both of them were criticized.

I may or may not address some of your other points later.

My objective is not defense, but getting the facts straight, that's all.

Many Blessings to you,
Karen

[Tango]

You don't have to answer anything else... And, I asked that My words not
be twisted... You've given much more than I asked, plus added tidbits.

FYI: The server was disconnected from the source of power. Not any
attack of any kind. [Aug. 26] Not anything like the Crash of June 26.

It's Nice when the TRUTH comes out...

Thank you for your time and statements,

Tango

Originally Posted by Karen

Yes, Tango, you are misunderstanding. I'm pretty sure all this started with a quote from their radio show. I'm 95% certain it was close to "We've been attacked on our own forum." So who is it that is sticking them together. It wasn't me. However they are still a team. I asked her and Kerry did not see your critique of her. There is email contact on the Camelot site if you want to go that route.

My conversation with Kerry today.{snip}

[bill7907]

Yeah most of what the "whistleblowers" have said up to now didn't happen.
The real whistle blower was Bill Cooper.
Mr.X was a real whistle blower (from the Inside).
Robert Dean doesn't "whistle blow" much, he just confirms the thesis floating around.

But Myplanet2, you are a big cry baby.
I haven't seen any THANK YOU to what Bill and Kerry are doing up to now.
Without them, you wouldn't be hearing any of this today.
Learn to say thanks first.

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by bill7907

Yeah most of what the "whistleblowers" have said up to now didn't happen.
The real whistle blower was Bill Cooper.
Mr.X was a real whistle blower (from the Inside).
Robert Dean doesn't "whistle blow" much, he just confirms the thesis floating around.

But Myplanet2, you are a big cry baby.
I haven't seen any THANK YOU to what Bill and Kerry are doing up to now.
Without them, you wouldn't be hearing any of this today.
Learn to say thanks first.

I recommend at least reading before making inept judgements.

[Tango]

Originally Posted by bill7907

"The real whistle blower was Bill Cooper."

Milt Cooper, was a Navy, second class Petty Officer.
Radio Operator with a clearance. So, he heard it all.
Saw disc craft; figured it out at a much later date.
Nice guy too. Lived in E. Arizona. There's something
about the energy here. Ask 777. Also, we're on
33.3 W. Parallel, 111 N.

Originally Posted by bill7907

"But Myplanet2, you are a big cry baby."

Bill, This just wasn't Nice... Shame...

Tango

[Karen]

Originally Posted by bill7907

But Myplanet2, you are a big cry baby.
I haven't seen any THANK YOU to what Bill and Kerry are doing up to now.
Without them, you wouldn't be hearing any of this today.
Learn to say thanks first.

Bill7907,

Name calling is a personal attack, inflammatory and not allowed on this forum.
See how it escalates things for the attacked and their defenders to sling something back at you?

I am also not impressed with what was slung back.

Please review the forum guidelines in the link below.

[mudra]

Here's a quote [added info to top . K]

Imagine walking along a sidewalk with your arms full of groceries, and someone roughly bumps into you so that you fall and your groceries are strewn over the ground. As you rise up from the puddle of broken eggs and tomato juice, you are ready to shout out, "You idiot! What's wrong with you? Are you blind?" But just before you can catch your breath to speak, you see that the person who bumped you is actually blind. He, too, is sprawled in the spilled groceries, and your anger vanishes in an instant, to be replaced by sympathetic concern: "Are you hurt? Can I help you up?"

Our situation is like that. When we clearly realize that the source of disharmony and misery in the world is ignorance, we can open the door of wisdom and compassion. Then we are in a position to heal ourselves and others.

B. Allan Wallace, Tibetan Buddhism from the Ground Up

peace
mudra

[Hiram]

The negativity and splitting on this forum by a few (you know who you are) individuals is ridiculous.


If your statements are directly encouraging people to "split"...or turn one party against another....your cover is blown. You should go post somewhere else. No, its not a healthy debate about the topics, its just repetitive criticism and discouragement.

If you don't like what Project Camelot or Project Avalon has become stop coming here I wouldn't waste my time coming here if I didn't want to move forward amicably and productively!? Whats the deal?

Constructive criticism moves forward in a constructive way. Its welcome. Some of you are intentionally being destructive and you know who you are.

The destructiveness is certainly not going to "improve" PC. And if your not trying to improve things then "Trooly" what are you doing here? I'm a bit confused by your presence. I'd like you to address this, because I know exactly why I and many others ARE here.

[Phtha]

Wise words Hiram, I agree with you whole heartedly. The energy created is certainly not what I call progressive. I also agree with Jaby's points, and even Bill to a point, although I have learned to keep my yap shut... or should I say keyboard unplucked... in these cases.
The people who are intending to create division and rumors of the fall of Avalon had some sort of issues with Kerry before all this 'Greer" controversy started, and in turn are using this controversy as a crutch to discredit Avalon.

That's how I see it. Whatever the case I am sure everyone has good intentions at heart, emotions are just taking control of the drivers seat it would seem.

Can't we all just get along?

[mudra]

Originally Posted by Phtha

Can't we all just get along?

" When you reach a dead end God allows you U turns "

Love always
mudra

[Karen]

From a Course in Miracles (probably not an exact quote):
Every instant is an opportunity to choose love over fear.

Or expanding on the U-turn analogy:
In every nanosecond you have the opportunity to change your mind to make a different choice.

[Myplanet2]

The topic was really about why whistleblowers no longer serve the greater good. Not about all the lovely ways to be polarized.

If someone can make a good case FOR whistleblowers of the likes I mentioned in the first couple of posts in this thread, I'd love to hear it.

I saw a really good blown whistle on the activities of Monsanto. How they deliberately subverted large percentage of the worlds ability to produce food crops using heritage seeds. That was useful.

What use are the ramblings of wannabe whistleblowers who don't know of hidden wrongs done, but who instead keep trying to predict future wrongdoings? Am I missing something here that would make this scenario anything other than fear mongering? How does this activity do anything other than forward TPTB agenda, of keeping people too afraid to have the time or attention to create a new world?

The Hawkeye WB tried to leave the impression that the Rothschilds are all powerful, and that they have it in the bag and we're all screwed. This software won't let me say what I think of that hooey pile.

Anyone who has the intent of manufacturing fear, works for TPTB. They may not all be on their payroll, but they help them all the same.

[tone3jaguar]

[Karen]

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

If someone can make a good case FOR whistleblowers of the likes I mentioned in the first couple of posts in this thread, I'd love to hear it.

What use are the ramblings of wannabe whistleblowers who don't know of hidden wrongs done, but who instead keep trying to predict future wrongdoings? Am I missing something here that would make this scenario anything other than fear mongering? How does this activity do anything other than forward TPTB agenda, of keeping people too afraid to have the time or attention to create a new world?

The Hawkeye WB tried to leave the impression that the Rothschilds are all powerful, and that they have it in the bag and we're all screwed. This software won't let me say what I think of that hooey pile.

When people predict the future - the only failed prophecy is the one that does come true. Prophecies are there to say HEY YOU! If you keep going in that direction, this is where you are going to end up. So a successful prophecy is one that is averted because it wakes us up and we go WOAH! Navigator, turn 5 degrees right!

When we are told these dire predictions of the future, the Powers that Will Be in charge soon gather together with manifesting power to dump the vile plans in the garbage and change the course into the future. I think they serve a powerful purpose! A bank robbery can't proceed if someone spills the beans and the police intervene. Successful nefarious plots work much better when they stay secret.

Hawkeye - Man I was laughing at the one - I got the picture of a gun pointed at his head as he typed.

Many Blessings,
YOU can change the future,
Karen

[mudra]

Imo You can't give away the truth to someone else and then blame him for it .
The whole world is built on believing that one does'nt know and giving power away to others.
Find your own truth within .The only way to experience fear is when you loose touch with your inner self.

Love always
mudra