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With all due respect swanny,
There seems to be so much judgement, condemnation and personal attack comming when we start to reign in the truth. It seems like this is an attempt to derail this discussion. This has occured on other threads as well. It won't work here. Lionhawk knows he has our trust and faith in his testomony and that whilst he can be like the Lion at times, he has a heart of gold and has seen past the attempt. These attacks don't add to the discussion and any rhetoric in response to them was meant in a light hearted jesting way. If you don't like punches to be returned in response to punches you throw out. Don't throw them in the first place. Simple. It is good to hear all sides of a debate but please lets keep this thread about the subject and not about personal attacks. Thank you. |
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I found this interresring point of view (thank you Oliver for pointing this source to me) that there might be not one, not two...but three different "federations" "out there".
To be honest, I still don't know if I should take anything of this for granted, but I would like to say that if I must take a party, I would say that the "spiritual alliance" fits the most with my understanding of the whole. Bellow is an excerpt of the pretty long text which is worth of reading anyway. The source is here: http://www.exopoliticshongkong.com/Earth_History.html Quote:
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As for the personal attacks..we none of us want to hear it..it is very inconsiderate....Forget about hunting Lions... go back to hunting wabbits ![]() ![]() Last edited by BROOK; 11-23-2009 at 07:19 PM. |
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The so called negative ET groups active on Earth at this time are not officially sanctioned by the Orion Empire or the Draco/Borg Collective, more so they are renegade elements of these groups who do not desire peace for the galaxy. The real solution to this is for everyone individually to clear their negative ego, advance through the ascension process and clear their soul and monadic extensions. Only this will see and end to this conflict for all time. There is currently an agreement with the Draco Collective that they may abduct only people who are walkins of their own. The latest negotiations see the Draco Alliance acknowledging that their days are numbered, many of the leaders are experiencing enlightenment and demonstrating willingness to cooperate with the Federation to establish long term peace. The warrior classes however have different ideas and know nothing other than the instinct of domination and carnage. We still have a long way to go, however if we all clear our negative egos then this will cease. Last edited by Initiate; 11-23-2009 at 08:14 PM. |
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I ask myself 2 questions when in doubt: Have I seen everything on Earth and in the heavens?? Nope Am I a higher being to judge what others believe?? Nope Then I probably should just leave it alone and listen. Peace Swanny |
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The truth is better than any fiction book. All I can say about this topic is if it is all fiction then I'd love to meet the Author.
Wait, The Author is all of us as individualised instances of the Creator/God. When we meet our highest self we will meet the Author. |
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For the record I wasn't making personal attacks I was just putting a point of view across.
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seems there is a new message:
Message from SaLuSa for 23-November-2009 by Mike Quinsey We hope that you are all becoming energised into action and follow what your hearts dictates, so that you may join the growing numbers of people that are standing up to the dark forces. Collectively you are helping spread a movement that is forming small groups with a potential to become quite large. You are taking the battle to the dark Ones, and we welcome such developments. Every little helps that encourages others to follow your example, and you are making a real impression. The truth cannot be hidden forever and it is emerging from the cobwebs of ages past, to reveal your true destiny and heritage as sovereign Beings. Nothing can stop the momentum of the changes that are occurring, and they will create pathways to even greater ones. Be assured that you will accomplish all that you set out to do that is in the name of Love and Light. As the weeks go by it will become apparent to everyone, that there is a move by minds and souls reaching out to claim back their rights. It will be helped by a popular uprising, that shall see many Dear Ones challenging the authority of those who represent you. They will be the means of taking back what has been denied you for many decades. Also, our imminent coming will be a boost to your ambitions, as you know that we shall be backing you in any efforts to help others. We shall be the strength behind you, and your assurance of success. We feel that many souls who have been oblivious to what has been taking place behind their backs, are open to being enlightened. They do realise that massive changes are necessary to restore some semblance of what life is expected to be, if people are to live safely and enjoy peace and happiness. However far the official announcement of our existence goes, it will give hope to those that despair of conditions ever changing. In us will be seen the coming of help to return your Earth to its pristine condition, and the overcoming of all restrictions that have taken away your freedom. Your comfort and good health are important to your happiness, and we are well prepared to correct that situation quite quickly. With the re-distribution of wealth and a new financial set-up that is fair and just, the unlawful demands upon your income will be removed. Sharing is the most important change, and that will require a new mindset that accepts that all life forms have a right to co-exist with each other. Separation for whatever reason will no longer be acceptable. How else can it be Dear Ones, when you are One – travelling the same path of evolution even if it has many turnings? You are the Human family that has already spent thousands of years, in hundreds of lifetimes learning to accept the Divinity of every soul. Finding out about your immortal self, and your spiritual essence that gives you all the potential of becoming gods. You have such power even now, which is why there is some emphasis on carefully considering the result of your every thoughts. They carry the power of manifestation, and this is how you have created your reality. The same power can lift you up out of the darkness and into the Light. Bear in mind that the mission of the Galactic Federation is to do all that is necessary to raise your consciousness. In so doing we can help you reach levels that will ensure your Ascension, and that is the ultimate goal of everything that takes place. Once in hand, changes will take place rapidly and with our technological knowledge and sheer number of personnel, completion will be ensured as planned. Remember that we come not to extend the cycle of duality as it is due to end in 2012 with a peaceful conclusion, and the commencement of a new cycle of utter joy and happiness in the higher dimensions. The Creator has decreed that your Universe ascends, and you are part of it unless by choice you prefer to remain in the present vibrations of the lower dimensions. For those of you who have set your sights on ascending, realise that in the process you will have your physical body restored to one of perfection. Because it will have a crystalline cell based structure, it will remain as such and not need the attention you give on a daily basis to your present one, and all those time consuming functions will become unnecessary. This also extends to your food intake, as your new body will be able to “feed” off the energy around you. However, there is what you may see as delicate foods and drink, but are quite different to what you have now. Renewing your energies will also be quite different, as sleep as you know it will no longer be necessary. Life is lived to the full in complete happiness and very fulfilling, and all souls you meet will extend their hands in friendship and love. Truth will apply to all experiences and they will be there for you without end, in the Cosmos that is your playground. In all experiences you will still be looking for upliftment, and that quest will never end until you reach the Source. However, there is a lot of living to do before you reach that point. Rather than continue with individual earth-like experiences, you will merge with others and become one in consciousness. It is a new concept for many to consider, but it does not mean you lose any of your own personality. Rather it grows through such experiences and furthers your evolutionary progress. Think upon all of this and realise that many wonders and delights are awaiting you, and that your present experiences will soon be forgotten. You are well on your way to a new life that will in reality be more than can be expressed in words. I am SaLuSa from Sirius, and would love every soul on Earth to turn to the Light and grasp the opportunity to ascend. However, allowance has to be made for your freewill, which will always be honoured. It so for this reason that we do not place any pressure upon you, as it is important we are not seen to interfere with your decisions. It is however necessary to make the process of Ascension well known, as it is a major point of change as the old paradigm disappears from view. By the end-time no one will be able to say they did not have the same opportunity as every one else to ascend. Again this is part of our mission to ensure it is so, and we shall lovingly carry it out. Thank you SaLuSa. Mike Quinsey |
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We are all here for a reason. Swanny too. We are also discovering that as we go. It is the road that has been less traveled. We are our own leaders in this regard. We lead ourselves and we should honor that process. Lend a helping hand where it is needed. Bless your path as you walk it. Know that what everyone has embarked on at this time on this Planet is to be honored. The road is difficult. We face so many obstacles on so many levels be it personal or otherwise. It takes courage and inner strength to walk our path. But it is also nice to know that many are now taking it. Years ago when I was coming up, I stuck out like a sore thumb. I didn't fit in everywhere I went and Heaven forbid if I discussed any of this stuff. That being said, it has all started to unfold as of the Harmonic Convergence in 1987, which I was oblivious to. Since then things have escalated and continue to do so. Things are starting to compress forward now and it is like running that last mile to get to the finish line. Another thought I have is that the dark don't want us to leave and they are clawing at us as we are ascending. Escaping their hold on us. It's about time.
I had a small conversation today with someone who is also very much aware of what is coming. It was good to hear someone else talk about it. It makes all the effort worth seeing it to the end. Also as a side note, I will not be one of those going on a craft. I have earned a ticket if need be. But one of my tasks will be involved with the portal that opens up on the Planet when the manure hits the fan. I know that I am only one of several that will be working on that. I have met only a few who also know they will also be the last to leave to ensure everyone else gets where they need to go. So it is also part of what I signed up for along with everyone else. It doesn't matter so much who does it as long as it gets done. When I had my lessons with that Angel back in the early 90's, she showed me that she was first through the gateway, then the others of liken frequency, and then I. Being last my job is to shut the door to that gateway. Mind you this is all related to the 11:11phenonema. You can also look it up in Solara's books as that is where it was also shown to me. Think spirals like chakras. Now here is the thing. Others have already gone and left this world and have gone ahead before us. To prepare the way. Many are still going. Disappearing from the Planet. Let us not forget them in our prayers because we no longer see them. Blessings and thanks everyone! |
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If SaLuSa would get paid per article instead of per word, she'd come to the point much quicker. Allas, Lord Ashtar thought this would be a better deal, so here you are.
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As it appears the universe has been at war for millions of years and that the GFL was born out of peaceful minded entities and souls to bring peace. The Angels seek us to know that we are one
LOVE CONQUERS ALL WE ARE ONE TOGETHER Beloved, we have come here before you at this time to explain why it is that the war in the dreamtime must be won by love, before the wars in the outer world can be put to rest. It was spoken of in your time by the Master Jesus that thanks must be given for all things , for that is the will of the God concerning you. [Eph.5:20] And yet we have seen wars on your world for millennia, fought by good people against others in the name of righteousness and religious belief. Time after time after time, fathers have cast out daughters, brother has turned against brother, in the name of God. This God, who is the true Creator of all worlds, would have you live in Peace. This God, who is the sustainer of all life, would have you wage compassion and love in His name, not war. For this God, for whom you so readily sacrifice all, would have you give thanks for ALL things, instead of judging any and creating separation and strife. Love it is that is the greatest Power. Love it is that contains within it the essence of Wisdom and Truth. For so long upon your world your teachers have created fear and loathing for many of God's children and creatures. All children and creatures are created in Love and are maintained in love. The Rebellious Angels were cast out of heaven for disobeying God's WILL and His command that they obey His Son. This event was a part of a larger plan in the being of God. This plan resulted in the free will of Earth, a place of high learning in real time, where man and woman could come to understand the practical effects of the powers inherent in creation. This is the place where man and woman could finally, over many lifetimes, realize the seriousness and vast potential of their sonship and daughtership with the Most High. This is where they would finally learn that the matrix of all creation is woven out of Love. We bring this up at this time because it is of the utmost importance that you come to understand that fear and resistance WILL NEVER CREATE ANYTHING OTHER THAN MORE FEAR AND RESISTANCE. Like produces like. A seed produces after it's own kind. If it is LOVE that you seek, then it is LOVE that you must sow. Unconditional love, love for ALL things, is what will finally conquer and still the forces of war , anger, hate, suffering, and all the other qualities of evil. This love applies for everything in the inner worlds as well as the outer. Love yourself in all of your weaknesses as well as your strengths. Love everything that exists. For love forgives and redeems all that it touches. Evil is the word in your language that symbolizes the state of NO LOVE. Evil is the word that represents the fruits of fear and resistance. Evil is based on the belief of separation, which is opposite to the truth of the UNDERSTANDING OF THE ONENESS OF ALL LIFE. Anyone who has seen war knows that war is evil. Fighting is an act of war. Whether you fight yourself or another, it can only lead to suffering. Fear and the fight against the fallen angels has led to their predominance of power on the planet. It is fear and resistance to them and their works that has given them so much power. Ask yourself this question: "Do I place my faith in the Power of Love and Oneness or do I place my faith in fighting and war?" It is a seeming paradox. How can you love that which is unlovable? Without this understanding of the Oneness of All Life on all planes, you are bound to see the separation of all life on all planes. We say unto you now, that unless you SEE BEHIND THE ILLUSION, the illusion OF SEPARATION, and see the face of the ONE BEING in all of creation, the unified field, behind ALL faces, you shall never be free. When you see the separation, you are already lost. No amount of war and suffering on your part, or on the part of your sons and daughters will bring about a reconciliation of the forces of good and evil, for evil IS THE BELIEF IN SEPARATION. THIS IS THE BIG LIE UPON WHICH ALL EVIL IS BASED. We are not separate. We are ONE in God. As Christ said, "What you do unto the least of these, you do unto me." When a soul has finally reached the place of experiencing through grace the ONENESS of ALL LIFE, then even the fallen angels will bend their knees and bow in submission. For they also are a part of the one being, and if even one human being confronts them with this truth, that human being will overcome. The fallen angels' eons of lying THE ANCIENT LIE that we are all separate crumbles in a second in the face of Universal Love. We urge you to follow in the footsteps of those who have taught you the power and wisdom of love. It is this understanding of THE ONE GOD that separates those who seek and those who have attained. For the seekers have found not. They desire the fruits of peace and the oneness of all being, and yet they are caught in the the illusion of separation. This is why the true seekers of the world have been willing for so long to fight for their beliefs. The belief that the fruit of fighting would bring peace is similar to believing that the fruit of a mustard seed would bring wheat. Like produces like. Fighting will never bring lasting peace. Here is where the ‘peace that passeth understanding' comes into play. When the consciousness is seated in the reality of ONENESS, all the appearances of separation become transparent and the face of the DIVINE is seen everywhere. This is a great mystery, it is the peace that passeth understanding. When Man and Woman Divine refuse to accept the illusion of separation as truth, but instead sees the reality of ONENESS, then no resistance or judgement ensues. Only thanksgiving and LOVE is experienced. It is this love that conquers. It is this love that heals. Miracles ride the winds of this love. It is this love that finally redeems the years and years of strife and turmoil that has ensnared the earth for so many millennia. When man and woman confront the fallen angels with the sword of love, the sword of the truth that WE ARE ALL ONE, then evil is vanquished and peace can finally return to earth. This must first be accomplished within the inner worlds of the consciousness, the dreamtime, and automatically it will reflect in the outer worlds of form. We understand that this teaching is a giant leap in consciousness from what your teachers have modeled for you for so long. It is time to end the war. It is time to be at peace. It is time for the LIE of separation to be uncovered and replaced with the understanding of the ONENESS of ALL LIFE. It is time for LOVE to reign in triumph over fear. IT IS TIME. In peace we walk with you. In peace we are one with you. In peace we are LOVE together. The Angels God's Love Is Like The Sun, it shines equally on the good and bad alike. COMMAND THIS: THE LAW OF ONE We are all One. When One is Harmed, All are Harmed. When One is Helped, All are Helped. Therefore in the name of Who I Am One with All, Omnipresent, Omnipotent, Omniscient and All Loving One with All the Masters, Saints and Prophets, with All Beings and the Christ, I ask that only that which is the highest good of all concerned happen here: The greatest Beauty and Harmony on the physical plane, The greatest Joy and Love on the emotional plane The greatest Illumination and Wisdom on the mental plane And the greatest unity with God on the spiritual plane, the plane of will. I give thanks that this is done. Amen. |
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Amen!
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Hi Initiate ~ I must ask what does the message "LOVE CONQUERS ALL WE ARE ONE TOGETHER" have to do with the galactic federation?
It would be helpful to include links to sources when bringing in outside material. I like the above message, so gratitude for sharing ![]() As far as I can tell the angelic message above has nothing whatsoever to do with Salusa, the galactic federation, ETs or messages from 'Matthew'. Am I missing something? I completely agree that the true realization of Oneness is where the solutions to humanities issues will come from. To me that means realizing that the source is within me and I can be an open door for solutions from the source. It also means, that even in this dense creation in 3D I can count on the infinite, and Beings like Archangel Michael to keep me protected, healthy, on the path of truth and inspire me to play my part in helping raise up my brothers and sisters here into a better way of Being. To me it means I won't need spaceships to show up to show me that God is inside of me. It means that I won't need a hyper advanced ET group to come and bring forth new governments for me and fly a bunch of humanity away in spaceships. I believe creation is designed to work symbiotically and harmoniously in a beautiful way. As the earth ascends to a higher vibration, we will ascend with it. However, Jesus said: those that seek to save their lives will lose them. It might be worth considering that hopping on a spaceship in order to achieve a higher state of consciousness is looking for the easy out, the outer solution to overcoming our own inner issues. We are here to do the work on ourselves to come up higher. I do not believe there's an easy pass. We can't just choose to believe something or join the right 'galactic federation' or religion to pass the test in schoolroom earth. I believe it's about doing the work on our self that is keeping us separated from connecting to the infinite within. As the message above says, it's also about realizing we are truly in this together and we will only make it through when we learn to help each other rather than fight each other. Shine our light, but don't fight. Part of this involves shining the light on our own darkness to come up higher in the light. As the nice message above said (although I'm not suggesting I'm led to believe it's from the highest source, but I do believe in the overall message in this case), it's about moving beyond the fight. We must realize that whenever we fight anything, we will always create an equal and opposite reaction. There are no exceptions to this rule. The only way to move into peace is to Be Peace. No amount of fighting the 'bad guys' will ever get us there. We are here to learn that the power is within us to take dominion over our own planet and to keep it protected while darkness remains in this universe. Oneness is about connecting to our own inner divinity where a solution awaits to be released through us for each of humanities apparent problems. ![]() Last edited by 14 Chakras; 11-24-2009 at 07:50 PM. |
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14 Chakras, It has everything to do with it. The Galactic Federation (The true one) was founded millions of years ago to bring peace to the galaxy.
We have found ourselves enduring thousands of wars on earth since the fall of the angels. These wars also took place throughout the galaxy. There was a particularily large war with the Lyrans at the time of the birth of Jesus. It is important to understand that we choose to play this game. It is just a game. The illusion of seperation is comming to an end. I propose that we are all supposed to come together in unity through this event. The implications are important, not just for our earth, it is bigger than that. The Duality has been outside of earth also. We explored where we had been and why the GFL were here. This prayer seemed like a fitting summation of where our consciousness should end up. The inspiring message came from the following link: http://globalpsychics.com/enlighteni...rly.shtml#love The last battle is nearly upon us. Everyone would like it to go smothely so there is no calamity. But, if there is a calamity then it is possible that your inner voice will tell you that you need to get on one of these spaceships until the danger is averted. They are here to insure that if we need assistance it can be given. They are the other ascended and enlightened beings from other planets. It is arrogance to assume otherwise. If after we ascend I am sure that if other planets needed help we would be there to offer it. Personally I would rather have my form transformed into the new crystaline form rather than grow a new one. If I am the last one through the gate before lionhawk closes it so be it. I would rather give everyone I can a chance at ascension than focus solely on my own. I also firmly believe we shouldn't hide ourselves away from the world. We should be out there and in it sharing the light with the unenlightened. We don't have to ram it down their throats. We teach by example. By living our lives the way we are supposed to live them. What point is the light if it is hidden away in communities for the rest of the world to ignore. This is not meant as a personal attack if anyone is living in this way. My point is it is time to leave the monistaries and the communes and go out into the world and BE the light. Last edited by Initiate; 11-24-2009 at 08:47 PM. |
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Well said 14 Chakras
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I go along with this. We cant possibly settle for anything less. We give away nothing or join any group If we do we will just end up in a bigger mess than we have already Like I have said previous, this is nothing more than another type of religion. We must do this on our own. We have the power and its within our rights |
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The point is being missed. This is bigger than us.
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the Whole is bigger than it's parts. Our souls are fragments of first source. together they make up the whole. There are souls out there beyond earth.
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I agree with what you have posted Initiate. The Angelic Message , SaLusa, and and Federation of Light are all part of the One, and the One Message. That All is One. Fighting for Peace is nonsense. Doesnt work and never has.
To me, the whole point of any Message, is its quality, its ability to inspire, offer Love or give Hope. Matters not who is delivering it, its quality and resonance reveals its source. My Inner Self resonates with Truth and is always the touchstone. Messages I am drawn to are those that move me in some way. Love Carmen Last edited by Carmen; 11-24-2009 at 09:48 PM. |
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Discernment.
This is part of what we are here to learn. Should we use logic on our search for truth? How is it we can take a message from a Website that is messages from angelic beings who are helping us learn more about ourselves and work on our own selves to bring the kingdom of heaven to earth, and then somehow use this to prove out messages from completely different websites, channels, totally different messages. (Here is the site where the message in orange above comes from: http://angelmessages.paradisenow.net...s_various.html) What are Galactic Federation messages always saying other than "Love love love". They are saying: We are going to come and replace your government, activate your dna and raise up your world. They are NOT saying that you need to work on your self and connect to your own God Power, Wisdom and Love within to Be Peace and reflect that peace back to the world. The Galactic Federation messages speak of automatic salvation. The same kind the Fundamentalist christians speak of, only a different savior. The real Savior, the messiah is within. It is your own Christ Self, your own I AM Self, your own Divine Flame within. Connect to your divine Flame within to bring forth solutions that are required at this time. The infinite is well aware of the situation humanity faces outwardly now, but does not require aliens to come replace our governments with a new world order for us. The infinite's plan however does require us to do the work on ourselves to come up higher into the reality of Oneness and connect to the Power Wisdom and Love that comes from Oneness in our hearts. We are the new people. This is our world and we will indeed raise it up by letting the infinite within us raise us up. Love is reality, but Love demands we exercise discernment and take responsibility for our own creations and our own Selves in order to graduate from the schoolroom of hard knocks into the reality of abundance. I suggest we all work on exercising our discernment. Is the message subtly making me dependent on something outside of me? Or is it really about how I can do the work on myself and come up higher into the Self Realization that I AM More than the victim. I AM the co-creator, and this world is my charge to co-create abundance on Now. Unconditional love fun to alls ![]() |
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