Human looking alien clones are a reality and live among us

[kriya]

but if aliens are playing tennis and sipping mimosa's then we live in a much more comical universe than anyone is aware of.

-clark

http://superstrangeland.blogspot.com/

Although I prefer the term a comedy-drama or a tragi/comedy.

I think you've actually said something quite profound!!

Love,

kriya

[mikanuotio]

Originally Posted by Carol

mikanuotio, from your posts it appears that you yourself have had contact with some type of aliens. I have some questions for you.

1. If you had contact did you know if they were humanoid or insectoid aliens?

2. Did you know if there were pure or hybrid? Some insectoid hybrids are very human looking and quite beautiful. I have copies of the actual photos of both grey and reptilian hybrids.

3. The insectoid (grey, reptilian, praying mantis) aliens are "hive mind" and telepathic. Did you experience mind-control by your possible alien contacts?

Here are a few factoids I've learned from my research and other contactees:

1. The majority of the humaniod aliens that I've researched are very spiritual and telepathic. They can use mind control to create bi and tri location. They can also use mind control to compel a person to meet with them, and the Nordics can block memories ~ but I'm not yet aware of where humanoid aliens use mind control in the manner of the insectoids do. Insectoid aliens use mind control to create paralysis, block memories, create intense fear for purposes of manipulation and control, create false memories or mind screens and generally make a person feel insane.

2. Jacobs, in his book The Threat (I have an online PDF file) identified that the insectoids take human DNA, eggs and sperm to create hybrids so as to elevate their own physical evolution and eventually have control over humans who are not hybrids.

3. Salla, Collier, Dean, Adamski, Merier and others claim that the humanoid aliens believe in non-interference and are not engaged in abductions for genetic alien/human hybrid programs. Stefano said that they make clones of themselves. In fact, Deacon identified that governments work with a variety of different aliens in a variety of top secret projects that involve technological advancement, time-travel, space travel and who knows what else.

4. The majority of the humanoid aliens that I've researched are very spiritual and also very technological oriented. The hybrids are a mixed bag as the stories about them are wide and varied.

5. The W stands for double "V" for victory over the task at hand and over ego self. The number 56 is the year (1956) this group first began their Mass Contact experiment with humans in Italy. 1956 to present day hence, W56

6. Spiritually evolved humanoid aliens what to help humans evolve beyond our current level of interactions with each other and the planet. Their intention is positive and they want us to learn how to help ourselves first ~ as compared to humans remaining immature/childlike and expect someone else to fix the mess they made. It's called learning to take personal responsibility for the consequences of interactions with each other and the planet. Humans are expected to learn how to clean up the mess that they created on the planet.

Think of the story of Buddha...

The story of the Buddha is where after enlightenment he vowed to come back and help all beings become enlightened as well. The moral of the story is one of "selfless-services-to-others" as compared to "service-to-self." He could have just gone into the higher spiritual dimensional realms and stayed there. Instead, he chose to stay close-by where he could continue to help those who had not evolved to his level of spiritual "beingness." The same can also be said of those aliens who wish to see humans evolve and become brothers of Universal Peace.

It is true that there are other aliens who wish to use humans as a resource for their own selfish purposes and are involved in human abduction, mind-control and aniliation for one reason or another. They are the parasites (blood-suckers) of the Universe who feed of other spiritual beings for survival because they have yet to become aware of or int5.egrate their own spiritual origin. These are the dangerous beings... and so are humans who resonate with murder, self-service, exploitation the of vulnerble and exploitation of the planet.

Since humans are all over the spectrum of spiritual self-evolution, it is completely understandable that human ET contact is similar. And I've been told by contactees that some Reptilians and some Greys are also very spiritual. This tells me it would be unfair to condem an entire alien species because we, in general, just don't know which end is up except by the fruits of their actions.

1. they was look like people. they was beable to hear without words via spirit world. they was integrated to spirit world. they was tell to me they not want to tell me.

2. they was look like same people. nothing beautiful as normal.

3. they was some collective or hive mind. they was more stupid than person can be. they was just integrated to spirits. telepathic is not real this world. i was notice mind controll and mind manipulation and i was control they verhicles by mind.

1. first they need person permission on any level to mind control. so if person not want they disturb need to say no for every level.

2. when i was see what they are i was refuse all permission to they interests for body for soul. they really was not like i was refuse. for anykind of copy and use i have refuse all permission too. i not feel self anything they are.

3. i know dimension travel. time travel and space travel are portal. they was use timing as be right place right time even not know what happen. timing because they was integrated with spirit world what mean fast incarnation circle to what aim at.

4. they have some verhicles as bus and motorbikes and metro to use with engine people not have. i was use bus and metro and was see motorbike was turn around without turn with wheels. they was say i can not drive they motorbike. motorbikes was some paper side what was mention some antipeople mechanic.

5. i was italy when was see. year for travel was 2007.

6. if try to fix mess made will just mess more.

to find out need to be very selfish what not mean bad as dualism try to make beleave to good and bad what is totally wrong. need to walk to find out. work what after need to be done is understand everything what was see to leave all behind. sometimes work is speak to people sometimes not. need to take second step too. first is work information out from self. people sometimes stay only with first step. point is not choose good or bad side. point is understand duality without choose side to go to war. everybody who know can protect personal life as know and fight no need to go and can say no for every level. to live life is more than to see good or bad.

[Carol]

Thank you for your response. What part of Italy were you in as I know locations of different alien types in the different areas.

[eleni]

Originally Posted by ellie

Well, well, well, we are all on a conspiracy forum and when someone tries to give us a piece of a puzzle we become somewhat sceptical, but I suppose a healthy amount of scepticism is acceptable.

But in this instance my intuition is veering towards Carol and Paola Harris and Stefano.

I get flashes of intuition which I get validated by certain people, contacts you could call them and that is what I go by. I would say this story is right because I see other things as well, but I talk about those with my good friends I know on another forum.

Carol I suppose the English version of his book is out now right? I am gonna buy that one. Thanks for bravely giving us this information.

Remember that line in the Shakespeare play guys..................you know the one I mean so I am not going to repeat it.

Mine too- am grateful Carol posted this and I look forward to my book coming in the mail

[Stardustaquarion]

Aliens are likely to look and behave like us
Alien life, if it exists at all, is likely to be just like us, a leading scientist has claimed. He also believes aliens would also share our human weaknesses for greed, violence and the exploitation of others.

By Richard Alleyne, Science Correspondent
Published: 12:15PM GMT 25 Jan 2010

Professor Simon Conway Morris at Cambridge University will tell a conference on alien life that extraterrestrials will most likely have evolved just like "earthlings" and so resemble us to a degree with heads, limbs and bodies.

Unfortunately they will have also evolved our foibles and faults which could make them dangerous if they ever did visit us on Earth.

rest of the article http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/s...e-like-us.html

I find all this rather interesting....smells like "project blue beam"...


Cheers

[Peace of mind]

I think people place comparisons between humans and aliens because of the lack of proof. This may be another case of blind arrogance, especially when one has never traveled the cosmos. Life can look like anything; we are still discovering all kinds of life on our own PLAN-ET.


Peace

[orthodoxymoron]

Originally Posted by eleni

Because they work hand in hand with a faction of ET's.......I've been to DUMBs and there are both humans and the odd looking one's (greys)......

eleni...you may have mentioned this previously...but I missed it. If there is nothing more that you can add at this time...I understand. But sub-surface bases on Earth...and possibly throughout the Solar System...seem to be extremely important regarding so much of what has been happening on Earth for thousands of years. I envision a very high-tech sub-surface environment existing throughout human history.

[eleni]

Am sure I have- over this past summer was taken to various bases- one I know is in OZ- how do I know that? Because I stood there next to some people from OZ (who were also obviously taken as well) and it was just a knowing.
The other base- I have no clue as to where that was- all I know is that is was human and grey (those greys were 4- 4.5 feet tall) the OZ base was connected to genetics (impregnation). My source (from Pine Gap) also told me it's not uncommon for people to be transported from USA bases to OZ. I live near major bases here........that connect to others.......

[orthodoxymoron]

Thank-you eleni. No more questions...for now!

Namaste

[mikanuotio]

Originally Posted by Carol

Thank you for your response. What part of Italy were you in as I know locations of different alien types in the different areas.

north italy. near alps.

i recomend not go to italy. turist not see what i was see.

they was all same type what i was see. i was just city level.

they have play ground what vatican and church and religion have made. they are some how dna manipulated to work together with spirit world for system what was as new world order.

program to make new world order is very old. what i was see they allready have city as same system.

they newer try to get people to city under same order. they have program to kill people or wait people die.

i was speak for some people who was not know where they are or what happen. people from other coutry.

they was not friendly and nice and they not care outsiders if they can not use some how for they purpose. i was see some lie.

one time in bank i was say they acting need to stop because i can see who they are. they was say be hush hush because around was people what they was like to service.

i was stop to speak english and start to speak my country language and they was start to speak my coutry language too so they speak multilanguage or spirits translate. they may only empty shell if spirit use they as tool.

i was see they work as road worker and bank and shop. they not just italy they other country too.

i was see some persons what was over police. who was very angry i was see they.

when i was stop speak english and they was speak my country language to me i was get wine and coffee and other stuff without money from gas station and small shops. they was look relieved when i was sit down but when i was get up they was look nervous and they face was change fast as second.

some people was get free alcohol so they was keep people trap. man who was get free alcohol was say he was loose sense of time on that place.

i was see many wrong thing on they place. i was see only two type what are people and people integrated with spirits.

is mix made with dna manipulation is no matter. what i was see was empty shells work with spirits.

[mikanuotio]

Originally Posted by Stardustaquarion

He also believes aliens would also share our human weaknesses for greed, violence and the exploitation of others.

Cheers

what i was see was not share human weaknesses but try to be something else by rule. same what religion and fear and manipulation make to people.

they was not so much interested to speak to me as they was speak together. they was know i am different what not fit to they purpose.

[mikanuotio]

Originally Posted by Peace of mind

Life can look like anything
Peace

if they mix spirits to use body as tool by dna manipulation may body controls be from somebody who not look like people or group of spirits use same body. very bad thing what people may not understand easy.

[mikanuotio]

Originally Posted by eleni

I live near major bases here........that connect to others.......

i was notice i was be able travel with metro to other places too. metro was look like travel 24h day and three or four metro tracks was side by side and travel was free.

one time metro was travel long time down and long time up. one place i was was night time and red sand was travel with strong wind to roads. some machines was clean red sand off from roads. i was not see far to see was place desert.

italy have desert or desert wind or red sand ?? north italy have red sand and heavy wind and machine what clean sand from road ?? italy have metro what can control by mind and travel free ?? is metro connect to other places ??

what i was see everybody was travel daytime with same metro but night time i was travel alone and only metro driver and controller on every station was same time. when i was ask change coins to get choclate from candy automatic station controller was say they not eat sugar that place and was not change any coins.

what i was see road bus was not hit other cars even was slide side every corner on street. i think was make vortex donut as shield.

desert city was every trash can full as nobody not empty any trash can. same city i was see person drive motorbike what was keep noice as thunder and person was turn 180 decree on road with motorbike without wheels was touch ground.

[Luminari]

Originally Posted by eleni

Am sure I have- over this past summer was taken to various bases- one I know is in OZ- how do I know that? Because I stood there next to some people from OZ (who were also obviously taken as well) and it was just a knowing.
The other base- I have no clue as to where that was- all I know is that is was human and grey (those greys were 4- 4.5 feet tall) the OZ base was connected to genetics (impregnation). My source (from Pine Gap) also told me it's not uncommon for people to be transported from USA bases to OZ. I live near major bases here........that connect to others.......

Next time you ride the crystal powered mag-lev tube shuttle from underneath denver airport to the land of OZ, be sure to do lunch with me ok?

I can show you that ancient vectoring site near pine gap.

Seriously though we will catch up in a few months anyhow.

[eleni]

Originally Posted by Luminari

Next time you ride the crystal powered mag-lev tube shuttle from underneath denver airport to the land of OZ, be sure to do lunch with me ok?

I can show you that ancient vectoring site near pine gap.

Seriously though we will catch up in a few months anyhow.

Yes, those trains are rather wide BTW too- just thought I would mention that in case anyone else reading this has also been on them.....

We can have lunch in a DUMB- not sure what the food situation is there but it might be pretty good considering factions of ET's hang out there on *vacation*

[Peace of mind]

@mikanuatio,
That’s a good point, but that’s describing what we see here on this plan-et. As far as venturing into the unknown/cosmos…we only use devices to detect what’s out there…our observations are not personal but thru corporations like NASA... plus we probably need to unlock our other senses to detect the many other forms of life.

Peace

[bashi]

Eleni: These memories …
While being abducted, in which state of consciousness are you ?

Carol : Why don’t you just upload some pictures? Please give the nay-sayers some Photoshop arguments…

[eleni]

[QUOTE=bashi;229062][SIZE="1"]Eleni: These memories …
While being abducted, in which state of consciousness are you ?



I am either in waking state or put under a light distortion (when they come to take me) things are not 100% clear during the abduction but the main part is retained consciously.

I have also not been *taken* since September- they tried twice (once in Sept. and as recently as a few days ago) because *interference* was placed in my brain and biofield by *someone* for the sole purpose of them leaving me alone.

[Carol]

Photos are the property of other contactees and in their books.. I don't have their permission to put them on the net but there may be some floating around.

[bashi]

This interference...
Do you know who did it? Have you asked for it? Can you focus on the source?

[Carol]

This thread is about contactees and clones. There is a distinct difference between abductees and those who are contacted. Abductees often don't have memory. Contactees, those I'm aware of pretty much have full recall and conscious interactions of their human/alien interactions.

The part that gets a bit confusing for some contactees is how the military will know about the contact and follow up with an alien/human abduction.

In the case of SeaGate, which Duncan spoke about with Kerry they even use dolphins to go through stargates. I found his testimony interesting because at a week-long workshop with Joan Ocean a couple of years back she had a drawing of dolphins in a space craft that a contactee had drawn. She even mentioned that the whales and dolphins were among the first ETs. Amazing, if true. And if what Duncan had to say about his own personal experiences, stargates, SeaGate and dolphins, it may well indeed be a reality as well.

What I want to know is just what is everyone so afraid of regarding SeaGate underwater base and why is it such a big secret. And which type of aliens are involved.

As for the human looking alien clones... that too is something worth investigating.

[nameless]

Originally Posted by mikanuotio

i stop to write because i was see forum want to respect rule what not allow people to write what they think religion system or suicide program or without limit what make too difficult to write truth. truth is all without rule or limit or law from out side and if can not write all is nothing really to write and nothing really to read.

what do you mean? what happened?

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[lightblue]

I am either in waking state or put under a light distortion (when they come to take me) things are not 100% clear during the abduction but the main part is retained consciously.

I have also not been *taken* since September- they tried twice (once in Sept. and as recently as a few days ago) because *interference* was placed in my brain and biofield by *someone* for the sole purpose of them leaving me alone.

dear Eleni, i admire your courage..

who do you think placed a saving interference in your brain? how do you know that your abductors from a while ago didn't implant some device inside your body? if you are sure they haven't - what is it that make you sure?

thanks very much l

[Luminari]

Carol, I got the "Mass Contacts" book today... wow! I always wanted to know more about the UMMO contacts.

Some very clear UFO pics- some of the best I've (never) seen.

I might have to post the pic of the 'dog from Venus' that is just too cool and funny not to share.

[lightblue]

I might have to post the pic of the 'dog from Venus' that is just too cool and funny not to share.

please do

thanks