quake 10/12/09, solutions - Page 4

Dantheman62 · 10-12-2009, 07:13 PM

Blossom Earthquakechild

Tango · 10-12-2009, 07:19 PM

Beautiful.... Perrrrrrfect..... Maybe.... Beyond that...

I need to go laugh at some Humor... Listen to som Music

Sing'n " I've got the music in me..." OR doing the "Tango"

Ya'know Really important Stuff...

Sniff; Sniff... Damn Fish, again... Nother One...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dantheman62

Blossom Earthquakechild

Ammit · 10-12-2009, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tango

Beautiful.... Perrrrrrfect..... Maybe.... Beyond that...

I need to go laugh at some Humor... Listen to som Music

Sing'n " I've got the music in me..." OR doing the "Tango"

Ya'know Really important Stuff...

Sniff; Sniff... Damn Fish, again... Nother One...

Lmao

charioteer · 10-12-2009, 08:03 PM

Thanks for the responses Initiate, Iain, and Ammit.

I think one thing would be to get more people to watch something like this as a wake-up call:
I also think that announcing people to be self-empowered is a great idea. Though he may not be perfect, having the President of the United States announce a message like this, with good intention, would be a start.

burgundia · 10-12-2009, 08:11 PM

Yes, a nice legend...i saw it some time ago....

Ammit · 10-12-2009, 08:12 PM

Umm, food for thought.

Christo888 · 10-12-2009, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charioteer

Christo888, those are all great ideas, but how to implement them? It can start with media, script, play, screen, etc., writers. What to write into the media is another discussion later. Who would announce that all citizens should become empowered? Obama? Absolutely no Obama what so ever!!!!! He is not qualified to do such a thing. No president is. Leaders breed followers.... Something on the news, or the history channel? Every media format and outlet over time can convey the tools of empowerment... and it does not have to be presented in a shockingly way, it can be done very easily and without breaking down or totally interrupting the current system in a destructive way. Actually, you may be surprised by the response and find that transitions into an empowered system for society can be accomplished but the existing system has maxed out because there is no more room to stash the fraud!!! What would the incentive be for them to tell the masses that they have been "victims" to the very media system they created? Funny way to present this exact dilemma... the incentive is not for those in power and control... it is their dilemma not necessarily ours. Their dilemma... they loose the power and control they currently have, it will not be done any other way. The more anyone tries to hold on to something that was never their's to own the farther down the rabbit hole that structure will go while those who do not seek power and control will rise above that structure and swallow it hole... Black Hole that is! So Power and Control by the energy it beholds implodes within itself by itself... those in power and control and continue that frame of mind also stay within that implodeing energy and to let go of it is their escape. Would announcing something like this wake people up too fast? It would not be an announcement, it is a process and one that takes time to comprehend especially after all the generations of Rote versus Knowledge. It also entails removing the current 'victim' tabloid verbiage, that depresses the emotional body to create physical habits and addictions, from virtually every public 'stream.'

Regarding the debt system, do you study economics? No... economics are man made calculations for a man made power structure that keeps the top happy and the bottom a support for the top. Remove the top by raising the entire bottom support to its highest level possible to swallow up the class divisions. Are you well versed in knowing what is going on with it? No...I am not well versed because being so deep into it keeps one deep into it, the current economic system has always been flawed and always will be. It only remains so because of control structures that release pressure at many others expense. And then recycle the misery all over again using HOPE as a way to spring it back into growth. How do we wind it down, how do we prepare people with the possibility of bringing on a gold standard? Looks like a pretty good start right now... but no one said the gold standard is the way to go... that opens the door for just switching the power structure over to another group of those who already have their fair share of gold... so no no gold standard, it just remains a neat commodity. What laws would have to be created to bring our financial system under control, how could it be done? Are you well versed enough in politics? Actually, as long as the current system has somewhat of a framework fine for the meantime, but continuing to create laws with the current system will not work, no thank you. And actually creating laws is interfering with empowerment and personal responsibility... Politics and Laws will atrophy over time through the raising of as many groups awareness as possible, sorry for all those in power... go enjoy your life but without the aphrodisiac of control over others for personal value. Like a drug withdrawal i'm sure there will be just as much time needed to adjust to not controlling as the adjustment for being personally responsible and the practice it takes to learn self empowerment held within a balanced understanding of all considerations herein.

For now suffice to say that they is the powers that be, the PTB. That will do for now.

What would you all do about the crisis between Palestine and Israel, the war in Iraq, the Taliban in Afghanistan? What about the vaccines. If their previous logic has been survival of the fittest, then part of the rationale for "keeping the population under control" has been just that, "keeping the population under control". Overpopulation is a problem. Is killing the solution? No.

How do we awaken others, and the masses in general? By what means do we create an atmosphere here on earth so that we can all, those who have been in power and those who have been under control, awaken in the new age? What about releasing the 911 truth? When should this be done? How and when should it be released so as not to create too much of a shock for the average person?

They want us to wake up, because it serves them, because awakening is better than pursuing worldly power. The old paradigm, power is real, is out, and the new paradigm, real is power, is in. They want us to wake up, we want the masses to wake up, and We want Us, Ourselves, to wake up. Do you want to?

charioteer

Not that you were actually asking me to answer you in specifics but a few comments for discussion sake I couldn't pass up!!!

The bottom line is that the decision for waking up does not belong to tptw and it is not even their responsibility!!!!

The tools for waking up the planet are spread all over the place and no one group will ever have control or decision power over that ever again...

The current power structure does not have to be used nor do the people in power or authority have to be consulted... sorry it is not up to anyone in current authority as to what we will or can do. Any person awake will do on their own what they perceive is their part and no permission will ever be sought!!!!

Actually, no media outlet has to be involved, and those in power have no power!!! But anyone can participate in change the more the merrier, and the change does not include people who want power!!!

Besides the real change is not going to be discussed on a forum.

Can I buy you a cup of Joe?

Ammit · 10-12-2009, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tango

More to do.? Another, Avalon drama moment has passed like Gas... DA DA DA DUMB....

Every one in the UK can go back to holdn' your Johnson; talk'n abt how hairy U are. Geez.......... Actually, gave a Blow by Blow time count down.

DA DA DA DUMB......... ahahahah..... Damn Fish... I smell Damn fish again.

Ha ha ha

Whow, someone is ringing the Admirals Doorbell, Maybe I need to get my head AGL and Alert 5. Get my ass in gear and get this Turkey up and chase this Whiskey Delta down. Make myself Warm Fuzzy.Throttle Back Tango and check your TACAN, you may find you are not alone...Honey!

Its not only aviators who get Dhoby marks.

Sneaky beaky is in pursuit maybe I will forgive you Yoyo and be your Sea Daddy.Im going now before I start Gonking besides I can clean my crest, I still wear mine..

Ammit

Tango · 10-12-2009, 09:10 PM

That's RIGHT. And, always check yor '6'. There's always Bad guyz. N' yeah.
Its Now for someone younger to Kill them... Warm and Fuzzy works... Honey,
is Sweet... I cried, and Cried when One of Ours didn't come back. I really
cried for his/her family... Son's NEED to be called Honey... Too. Lima Ocsar
Victor Echo is what works the BEST. Just sooo U know I can scratch My
Balls too; But, hunny makes them better... Faster, 2.8 Mach to 15 Mach.
AGL always works... Got U... 5 X 5... I hope can seee Me now... Talley Ho

Trooly,

Tango

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammit

Ha ha ha

Whow, someone is ringing the Admirals Doorbell, Maybe I need to get my head AGL and Alert 5. Get my ass in gear and get this Turkey up and chase this Whiskey Delta down. Make myself Warm Fuzzy.Throttle Back Tango and check your TACAN, you may find you are not alone...Honey!

Its not only aviators who get Dhoby marks.

Sneaky beaky is in pursuit maybe I will forgive you Yoyo and be your Sea Daddy.Im going now before I start Gonking besides I can clean my crest, I still wear mine..

Ammit

Anchor · 10-12-2009, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christo888

Besides the real change is not going to be discussed on a forum

Confused - please elaborate.

A..

Ammit · 10-12-2009, 09:20 PM

What?, I believe we can make a real change with a forum, with this forum. The more that know, the more can be informed and the more informed is more souls saved. Has to work....

Ammit · 10-12-2009, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tango

That's RIGHT. And, always check yor '6'. There's always Bad guyz. N' yeah.
Its Now for someone younger to Kill them... Warm and Fuzzy works... Honey,
is Sweet... I cried, and Cried when One of Ours didn't come back. I really
cried for his/her family... Son's NEED to be called Honey... Too. Lima Ocsar
Victor Echo is what works the BEST. Just sooo U know I can scratch My
Balls too; But, hunny makes them better... Faster, 2.8 Mach to 15 Mach.
AGL always works... Got U... 5 X 5... I hope can seee Me now... Talley Ho

Trooly,

Tango

I will hold your 6, no worries.

Christo888 · 10-12-2009, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anchor

Confused - please elaborate.

A..

The change we have in our heart isn’t written down, and if the change we knew in our heart were written down then that could be planned against by tptw in order to divert or counter. Tptw do not need our assistance to figure out what to do with a system they built to control. And if tptw wanted to help make a change then they can read and discover exactly the same stuff we all did. The difference is, what information is needed by an individual to turn on the light bulb within themselves to see what has been done, and what needs to be undone.

As long as ‘they’ are busy … (distracted

) holding onto the power they think they have then real change can happen behind the scenes within each ‘fragment of the whole’ according to the vibration that energizes/raises the awareness of each. Any fragment of the whole that raise awareness fuels the heightened awareness availability to any other fragment of the whole. There is no one higher gifted fragment than another as all have the same whole potential embedded within, as each of us fragments have different aspects to clean up and refresh through the infinite experience and perception field we grew up within.

How does one discuss on a forum that which cannot be explained once awareness turns on within each in there own timing which then adds back into the whole raising it up a little more. How we got in this mess was through the removal of empowerment and awareness replaced with victimhood by presenting a perceived higher power outside of ourselves to rely on and worship to gain favor with.
Unwinding the labyrinth, polishing the ‘diamond prism’ (being) to refract the brilliance, is going to be a process…

Hence, "It isn't about using discernment. It is about using extreme discernment," with a strategy.

Actions speak louder than words… Focused intention for the highest good of all (which may not have words for expression) within the principle of Harmony and Balance is an action and creates change. Followed by the Principle of Allowance to work within the current circumstances to bring about the most advantageous position for the betterment of us all however that may transpire… real Faith is in knowing through an enlightened realization of self-awareness of us all will manifest in TIME.

Christo888 · 10-12-2009, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammit

What?, I believe we can make a real change with a forum, with this forum. The more that know, the more can be informed and the more informed is more souls saved. Has to work....

Yes absolutely... I defined what I meant a little better in my last post.

GaiaLove · 10-12-2009, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charioteer

tomorrow there will be a magnitude 7.0 quake off the coast of Harbor Island, the Bahamas, at 9:33 AM EST. no one will be harmed. the purpose of this earthquake is for verification so that you will be receptive to working on organizing solutions to the worlds problems. the powers that be will work together with you to bring about realistic changes that we can come to a concensus on. there are many factors to consider. this thread will presently serve as the framework to do this. that is all.

good day,
charioteer

Charioteer, Welcome to Avalon. Since you did ask for solutions I will offer my 2 cents

First off, when joining a forum as this one and making your first post a vague prediction/warning, is not going to get the results you hope for. You have been a member for 4 days and have sacrificed all credibility IMO.

Secondly, Your tone in your statement is one of arrogance and will not be met with positive input from most people here.

And if it is your true desire to engage with us on positive exchanges of ideas for a better world you will need to end the deception and speak the truth. i.e. Who are “they” and what is your affiliation with TPTB.

If you are truly interested in what you say, cut the c*ap and talk to us plainly. There are many false prophets these days, predictions are coming weekly theses days. The ground crew are laughing at them all as not one has proven to be true in the slightest degree.

Quote:

Originally Posted by charioteer

The earthquake should happen, because I have asked them to.

If you want to reestablish your credibility explain this statement in detail please

BROOK · 10-13-2009, 05:33 AM

Just out of curiosity...has the time passed? did we have the earthquake?

Hay..I would have to go back and look..but I predicted an earthquake here in California about 3 or 4 months ago...right here on the forum..I was posting and I got this feeling and looked up at my china hutch....and wondered if we had ever strapped it to the wall..because that is what you have to do with heavy furniture here...so right in the middle of the post I stated that this may sound funny but I think we're going to have a quake...totally unrelated to the post I was doing

Anyway...later that day...yep....4.5 magnitude.

Everyone wanted me to pick some lotto numbers

just thought I'd share that

no caste · 10-13-2009, 06:41 AM

hi charioteer -

It's kind of weird (IMO) to ask for solutions to a fake problem: quake 10/12/09. The real problem in that area is wealthy people evading taxes. (Hey, I like Sean Connery and Michael Jordan.... but c'mon.) Isn't there also an underwater military base around there, 'Underwater Area 51?

Those are problems.

Anywho, the PTB (we call it PTW here) are varied. Are they rabbits with long ears, floppy ears, with spots, black, white, grey, dyed for Easter, wild, winter, summer, dwarf, mean, gentle - and that's only the vegans. To say We, The PTB (whatever you said: use your minds! yeah, that was it) - OR SOLVE PROBLEMS THAT WE MADE in my mind the lot is fired due to overgrazing.

But, if I had advice, I'd say walk around main street, get out of the limo, talk to a cab driver (very astute political views here), clean your own house for a bit, give a bum a fiver, figure out what's wrong with the legal system and hope for the best.

YOU'RE FIRED!

Carmen · 10-13-2009, 06:58 AM

Damn!!

Did I miss it?

charioteer · 10-13-2009, 07:00 AM

Hi. Ok, first of all, allow me to apologize.

I know that I came in with an attitude. I did this because I could not think of any other way and so I decided to do it and let the chips fall where they may. This was not meant to frighten you. Had the earthquake happened, I know most of you would have been shocked, and perhaps, a bit too shocked.

You could think of this thread as a mixture of thinking like you all think and the PTB; "change through chaos". If the quake had happened you might have been alarmed but you would get over it, and it would have incited you to respond. You would have thought about things in more more real world terms. No one has ever predicted the exact time and location of an earthquake and had it go through, that I am aware of.

They I do not have a name for other than PTB. I have had a great influence over them for awhile now and have been under surveillance. The reason for this is something that I inadvertently implanted into their thought stream through my actions. I am under surveillance. And it is not easy. I can not go into any more detail other than that except that what I "inserted" began small and they began showing it to higher officials of freemasonry, etc. It began with freemasons, normal people in my neighborhood.

All I have to do is type something on my computer and they see it. I can open up a doc to speak to them. They see the screen as I do. When I said the earthquake should happen because I asked them to, I mean that I have them in check so to speak and they are willing, to some degree, to heed my advice as to what to do to begin closing the gap between the PTB and the P (the people). In the future, the people will have the world; but not all TBTB will vanish from the earth, many/most of them will still be here, in the same bodies.

After the quake didn't happen, I told them, "That's ok, just make some more mild quakes at least it will give a hint that there is some validity to this. This might be better for you anyways than a specific time and location because it won't draw too much attention." As it happens, there were nine mild quakes on the 12th in a row http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...uakes_all.html.

Again I apologize for coming on so strong. I did not think that there was another way. Once again the reason would have been to create a connection even though it would have been a shock. Anyone who is searching for alternative theories can come to a website like this. The connection, they have decided, would have been too strong.

Many on forums like these believe that things are in divine right order, that we will manifest the change we need through fate, so to speak. I want to tell you that there is a plan for us, and that there is a divine order, but that we must work to create the right future because the future is not set. Things will not "just" fall into place, but rather, things will fall into place, because we will work so that they do. I don't want to overburden you too much but I want to wake you up; Not everything will come together by itself and we need to start thinking in real-world terms to really organize solutions for change. We may end up working with the current power system to change it. If you believe it will be overthrown, when will it be "overthrown"? How will it be "replaced"? The paradigm systems may be overthrown but we may end up basing some of the new system on the current system. As to when and how this will happen I cannot answer these questions right now but know that this will involve all of us, both the powers that be, and yourselves, the beings that have power.

I am here to get you to start thinking. Even if it takes an extra cup of coffee to stomach that you really have an influence over how things will play out. The future is not set. But we can move towards a better world. This will involve bits and pieces of all of the things that you have read, but we will have to work for it. You will have to really use your mind to put yourself in their position, they can do the same and put themselves in your position, so that we can ultimately come together. We don't want vaccines, we don't want a shadow government, and we don't want secrets. I believe, as I'm sure you do and has been said before, that it is our destiny to go the stars.

Thank you again for reading. To clarify once more, I am just a normal person. I realize that I could I could be speaking more specifically but one of my primary objectives is to get the ground crew to apply information that they have already learned. Take all the things you have read and realize right now that it is your decision what to do with it; you are in this moment, the ever-present, and you have all you need to do your part of changing the world. There is nothing to fear. The clues as well as the answers are right there, in your mind. I am not asking for you to give me a lot of posts in response to my thread, I am only asking you to realize now that the big boys are not as big as you think, and that you cannot project your own inner darkness onto them forever. The true battle that is being played out is in your mind, and the true darkness to be overcome is right there, in your very own mind. There is really only One Being who needs to receive this message. Knowing this message, and understanding it, is part of our journey into the new era.

Namaste
charioteer

no caste · 10-13-2009, 07:22 AM

I don't believe you came on either strong or frighteningly. It is just kind of silly. Anyway, good luck with your reverse programming project.

charioteer · 10-13-2009, 07:38 AM

Just to re-iterate one more time: 7.0 earthquakes or above are not uncommon in the ocean. No tsunami would have been created, as I specified this, and it probably would have been farther off, in the Mid Atlantic Ridge, anyways. This would have drawn attention and perhaps gotten out further that there is factual basis that we have the ability to create earthquakes. We are a type 1 civilization; you may understand this, but most people do not.

Good luck with your studies. You will have an easier time concentrating than I will have.

777 The Great Work · 10-13-2009, 08:46 AM

There are many ways to interpret an earth quake, on a Monday.
You have the focus on Monday now ,and earth quake, that was your agenda. This game is already over. That is all CHAR IO TEER. Blue lodge member or pretender.

viking · 10-13-2009, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 777 The Great Work

There are many ways to interpret an earth quake, on a Monday.
You have the focus on Monday now ,and earth quake, that was your agenda. This game is already over. That is all CHAR IO TEER. Blue lodge member or pretender.

viking

Initiate · 10-13-2009, 09:41 AM

many of us feel vitimised and misled by the powers that were because when the truth comes to us we realise just how far up the garden path we have been led.

I then consider the fact that for many of us we have lived the birth life death cycle at least once. Those that are currently the PTW more than likely in a past life were the oppressed. Just as we more than likely were the oppressors. And I am more than certain that at some stage before we can move forward in evolution our noses are gonna be rubbed in it. We are gonna have to face our past deeds or missdeeds.

"If we can't forgive how can we be forgiven?". Just as the P's are waking up is it not also possible for the PTW's to wake up also? If you were living a certain way your whole life as a PTW is it not possible that you knew no different? As JC said "Father, Forgive them for they know not what the do" What if they were awoken and were given the truth. What next? Is this not what is been asked of us? Duality is comming to an end but would the creator want to do away with any of his creations especially when we were all born with a spark of creation? Mind shattering stuff but it needs to be said.

Anchor · 10-13-2009, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christo888

The change we have in our heart isn’t written down, and if the change we knew in our heart were written down then that could be planned against by tptw in order to divert or counter.

....

Wow thanks for this complete answer.

Awesome.

A..

10-12-2009, 07:13 PM	#76
Dantheman62 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: So. Cal. U.S. Posts: 4,205	Re: quake 10/12/09, solutions Blossom Earthquakechild

10-12-2009, 08:03 PM	#79
charioteer Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 50	Re: quake 10/12/09, solutions Thanks for the responses Initiate, Iain, and Ammit. I think one thing would be to get more people to watch something like this as a wake-up call: I also think that announcing people to be self-empowered is a great idea. Though he may not be perfect, having the President of the United States announce a message like this, with good intention, would be a start. Last edited by charioteer; 10-12-2009 at 08:10 PM.

10-12-2009, 08:11 PM	#80
burgundia Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Poland Posts: 3,442	Re: quake 10/12/09, solutions Yes, a nice legend...i saw it some time ago....

10-12-2009, 08:12 PM	#81
Ammit Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Weymouth, Dorset, UK Posts: 827	Re: quake 10/12/09, solutions Umm, food for thought.

10-12-2009, 09:20 PM	#86
Ammit Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Weymouth, Dorset, UK Posts: 827	Re: quake 10/12/09, solutions What?, I believe we can make a real change with a forum, with this forum. The more that know, the more can be informed and the more informed is more souls saved. Has to work....

10-13-2009, 05:33 AM	#91
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: quake 10/12/09, solutions Just out of curiosity...has the time passed? did we have the earthquake? Hay..I would have to go back and look..but I predicted an earthquake here in California about 3 or 4 months ago...right here on the forum..I was posting and I got this feeling and looked up at my china hutch....and wondered if we had ever strapped it to the wall..because that is what you have to do with heavy furniture here...so right in the middle of the post I stated that this may sound funny but I think we're going to have a quake...totally unrelated to the post I was doing Anyway...later that day...yep....4.5 magnitude. Everyone wanted me to pick some lotto numbers just thought I'd share that

10-13-2009, 06:41 AM	#92
no caste Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,375	Re: quake 10/12/09, solutions hi charioteer - It's kind of weird (IMO) to ask for solutions to a fake problem: quake 10/12/09. The real problem in that area is wealthy people evading taxes. (Hey, I like Sean Connery and Michael Jordan.... but c'mon.) Isn't there also an underwater military base around there, 'Underwater Area 51? Those are problems. Anywho, the PTB (we call it PTW here) are varied. Are they rabbits with long ears, floppy ears, with spots, black, white, grey, dyed for Easter, wild, winter, summer, dwarf, mean, gentle - and that's only the vegans. To say We, The PTB (whatever you said: use your minds! yeah, that was it) - OR SOLVE PROBLEMS THAT WE MADE in my mind the lot is fired due to overgrazing. But, if I had advice, I'd say walk around main street, get out of the limo, talk to a cab driver (very astute political views here), clean your own house for a bit, give a bum a fiver, figure out what's wrong with the legal system and hope for the best. YOU'RE FIRED!

10-13-2009, 06:58 AM	#93
Carmen Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 992	Re: quake 10/12/09, solutions Damn!!Did I miss it?

10-13-2009, 07:00 AM	#94
charioteer Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 50	Re: quake 10/12/09, solutions Hi. Ok, first of all, allow me to apologize. I know that I came in with an attitude. I did this because I could not think of any other way and so I decided to do it and let the chips fall where they may. This was not meant to frighten you. Had the earthquake happened, I know most of you would have been shocked, and perhaps, a bit too shocked. You could think of this thread as a mixture of thinking like you all think and the PTB; "change through chaos". If the quake had happened you might have been alarmed but you would get over it, and it would have incited you to respond. You would have thought about things in more more real world terms. No one has ever predicted the exact time and location of an earthquake and had it go through, that I am aware of. They I do not have a name for other than PTB. I have had a great influence over them for awhile now and have been under surveillance. The reason for this is something that I inadvertently implanted into their thought stream through my actions. I am under surveillance. And it is not easy. I can not go into any more detail other than that except that what I "inserted" began small and they began showing it to higher officials of freemasonry, etc. It began with freemasons, normal people in my neighborhood. All I have to do is type something on my computer and they see it. I can open up a doc to speak to them. They see the screen as I do. When I said the earthquake should happen because I asked them to, I mean that I have them in check so to speak and they are willing, to some degree, to heed my advice as to what to do to begin closing the gap between the PTB and the P (the people). In the future, the people will have the world; but not all TBTB will vanish from the earth, many/most of them will still be here, in the same bodies. After the quake didn't happen, I told them, "That's ok, just make some more mild quakes at least it will give a hint that there is some validity to this. This might be better for you anyways than a specific time and location because it won't draw too much attention." As it happens, there were nine mild quakes on the 12th in a row http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...uakes_all.html. Again I apologize for coming on so strong. I did not think that there was another way. Once again the reason would have been to create a connection even though it would have been a shock. Anyone who is searching for alternative theories can come to a website like this. The connection, they have decided, would have been too strong. Many on forums like these believe that things are in divine right order, that we will manifest the change we need through fate, so to speak. I want to tell you that there is a plan for us, and that there is a divine order, but that we must work to create the right future because the future is not set. Things will not "just" fall into place, but rather, things will fall into place, because we will work so that they do. I don't want to overburden you too much but I want to wake you up; Not everything will come together by itself and we need to start thinking in real-world terms to really organize solutions for change. We may end up working with the current power system to change it. If you believe it will be overthrown, when will it be "overthrown"? How will it be "replaced"? The paradigm systems may be overthrown but we may end up basing some of the new system on the current system. As to when and how this will happen I cannot answer these questions right now but know that this will involve all of us, both the powers that be, and yourselves, the beings that have power. I am here to get you to start thinking. Even if it takes an extra cup of coffee to stomach that you really have an influence over how things will play out. The future is not set. But we can move towards a better world. This will involve bits and pieces of all of the things that you have read, but we will have to work for it. You will have to really use your mind to put yourself in their position, they can do the same and put themselves in your position, so that we can ultimately come together. We don't want vaccines, we don't want a shadow government, and we don't want secrets. I believe, as I'm sure you do and has been said before, that it is our destiny to go the stars. Thank you again for reading. To clarify once more, I am just a normal person. I realize that I could I could be speaking more specifically but one of my primary objectives is to get the ground crew to apply information that they have already learned. Take all the things you have read and realize right now that it is your decision what to do with it; you are in this moment, the ever-present, and you have all you need to do your part of changing the world. There is nothing to fear. The clues as well as the answers are right there, in your mind. I am not asking for you to give me a lot of posts in response to my thread, I am only asking you to realize now that the big boys are not as big as you think, and that you cannot project your own inner darkness onto them forever. The true battle that is being played out is in your mind, and the true darkness to be overcome is right there, in your very own mind. There is really only One Being who needs to receive this message. Knowing this message, and understanding it, is part of our journey into the new era. Namaste charioteer Last edited by charioteer; 10-13-2009 at 07:26 AM.

10-13-2009, 07:22 AM	#95
no caste Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,375	Re: quake 10/12/09, solutions I don't believe you came on either strong or frighteningly. It is just kind of silly. Anyway, good luck with your reverse programming project.

10-13-2009, 07:38 AM	#96
charioteer Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 50	Re: quake 10/12/09, solutions Just to re-iterate one more time: 7.0 earthquakes or above are not uncommon in the ocean. No tsunami would have been created, as I specified this, and it probably would have been farther off, in the Mid Atlantic Ridge, anyways. This would have drawn attention and perhaps gotten out further that there is factual basis that we have the ability to create earthquakes. We are a type 1 civilization; you may understand this, but most people do not. Good luck with your studies. You will have an easier time concentrating than I will have.

10-13-2009, 08:46 AM	#97
777 The Great Work Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: At the doors of perception Posts: 2,135	Re: quake 10/12/09, solutions There are many ways to interpret an earth quake, on a Monday. You have the focus on Monday now ,and earth quake, that was your agenda. This game is already over. That is all CHAR IO TEER. Blue lodge member or pretender. Last edited by 777 The Great Work; 10-13-2009 at 08:58 AM.

10-13-2009, 09:41 AM	#99
Initiate Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New Zealand Posts: 391	Re: quake 10/12/09, solutions many of us feel vitimised and misled by the powers that were because when the truth comes to us we realise just how far up the garden path we have been led. I then consider the fact that for many of us we have lived the birth life death cycle at least once. Those that are currently the PTW more than likely in a past life were the oppressed. Just as we more than likely were the oppressors. And I am more than certain that at some stage before we can move forward in evolution our noses are gonna be rubbed in it. We are gonna have to face our past deeds or missdeeds. "If we can't forgive how can we be forgiven?". Just as the P's are waking up is it not also possible for the PTW's to wake up also? If you were living a certain way your whole life as a PTW is it not possible that you knew no different? As JC said "Father, Forgive them for they know not what the do" What if they were awoken and were given the truth. What next? Is this not what is been asked of us? Duality is comming to an end but would the creator want to do away with any of his creations especially when we were all born with a spark of creation? Mind shattering stuff but it needs to be said.