Bye Bye Whistleblowers.

[THE eXchanger]

xxx

[jaby]

Originally Posted by iainl140285

The Universe is cyclical.
On the micro and macro level.

On the macro level, we have our solar system.The Earth around the sun etc.

On the micro level, we have the whistle blowers recycling the same stories with their own twist. The whistleblowers =



Well done myplanet for realising this and breaking the cycle

Are you talking about ALL whistleblowers?

Every single one?

You think they are ALL like the Pied Piper? Implying that people just follow them blindly. Are you implying all the people who follow the Camelot videos are easily led?

I'm sorry...but this is getting ridiculous now. No-one is stopping anyone from DOING what they want....dispensing with whistleblowers and Camelot, if they want to.....and going D.I.Y , or what-ever.

So many of you think that you've 'outgrown' all this whistleblower thing...that now it's all gone sour and we are all following blindly with fear in our hearts. That's fine. Thats great....just do what you have to do.....

BUT...to tar all the whistleblowers with the same brush is disrespectful.

There are a small minority that could be suspect....but using the general term 'whistleblowers' and making sweeping statements...negative ones..is not helpful.

Perhaps when attacking whistleblowers you should make it clear who you mean.


C'mon. Make your changes if you want to. We are ALL changing and learning. But don't do it at the expense of people (whistleblowers) who have genuinely tried to impart information for the benifit of all.

[Myplanet2]

Jaby. no offence, but you're simply not following along.

[Unified Serenity]

It goes back to the victim mentality. There are many in the American Indian culture who are angry over what happened to their tribes, and I don't have a problem with their anger. I do have a problem with their hurling it my way because I am a mystic and I study various spiritual paths. As far as I know, I did not have anything to do with the attacks their tribes suffered.

We are moving and evolving spiritually into a higher being. Some are awake and some are not. I also believe that we often incarnate into a race we once hated. I don't hate any race. I don't understand racist people. I've never understood mean people. I am not perfect and not afraid to look at my reactions to people and events in my life. I wish we could get over the past. I desire for the human race to choose to move forward in love to treat each other with love and respect. I can only work on myself and try to be a messenger of truth and love in my world.

Thanks again for the message Exchange.

Originally Posted by eXchanger

take a good look at the colour of your palms/and, the colour of the bottom of your feet -- all people are the same colour there i was told, that whatever incarnation, you currently are in
that is WHO YOU HATED, in your last lifetime

[jaby]

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

Jaby. no offence, but you're simply not following along.

Well you see.......that's because I'm not a follower.

No Pied Pipers for me.....and that includes YOU...

In a nutshell...you are not going to grow and progress if you go around being negative about the majority of individuals who have generallly tried to impart information for the benifit of all.

Even the title of this thread could be classed as mischeivious.

I know I'm coming in strong...but I think it's needed. I am entitled to express how I feel about all this 'Bye, bye whistleblowers' stuff. And the vibe it's giving out.

And I'm perceiving the vibe as 'holier than thou' with negative overtones.

Sorry if that doesn't 'follow' the script...but that's how it is.

[iainl140285]

Originally Posted by jaby

Are you talking about ALL whistleblowers?

BUT...to tar all the whistleblowers with the same brush is disrespectful.
Disrespectful to whom?

There are a small minority that could be suspect....but using the general term 'whistleblowers' and making sweeping statements...negative ones..is not helpful.
If you have taken the comparison as negative (which you seem to have taken the majority of posts in this thread) then that is how YOU have taken it. Irespective of how you have percieved my post I respect your stance 100% and am not here to 'convert' you. Just state my opinion

[sammytray]

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

When Dan burisch was first talking about the incredible technology he says he used, it was exciting. When John Lear and Richard Hoagland talked about how things were not at all as they were being presented as regards our forays into space, it was exciting. When George Green was first talking about what he learned while hobnobbing with the PTB it was exciting. Dave Wilcock said he talked to an ancient being who had much wisdom to share. That was exciting.

[ huge complete quote trimmed - A..]

It really is bye bye whistleblower time, and not just for me. Whistelblower can only add to the mayhem at this point, and can only serve to feed the PTB the fuel they require for their plans to proceed. Fear.

So what are you going to do to save everyone from the "whistleblowers"?

Start your own forum for peace and love?

Lets all meditate and change the world? (actually, not a bad idea)

If its not one polarity its the other... back and forth, back and forth. I can see how someone new to this **** could be caught in the middle of a tug-0-war. At some point you have to pull yourself out of this mess and step into your own little "dimension".

Its exhausting...




And about "emotion" as you stated above... I agree, emotion IS ENERGY IN MOTION. It shows no favor.

[Anchor]

Originally Posted by jaby

Well you see.......that's because I'm not a follower.

No Pied Pipers for me.....and that includes YOU...

MP2 simply presents a perspective - there is (in my own judgement/opinion) no coercion or freewill infringement going on here - no leading - no pied pipering - just an offering.

The truth will set you free, but first it WILL p*ss you off!

For many people reacting to this thread, I think this may apply (but that is because I think MP2 is speaking the truth, and therefore I could also be wrong - its for you to decide.

I think that it is true that once you do start to see things from a extra-dimensional perspective the UFO's and whistle blowers stuff is just so much distraction, for me thats why I only joined when Avalon got added to Camelot.

I get questioned all the time why I dont get wrapped up in that stuff and I have a hard time answering it. Perhaps this thread is the closest approach to that answer that I have ever seen on this forum - and my thanks go to MP2 for that.

Much of the "truth" is a lot simpler than the stories presented by whistleblowers. Knowingly or not many of them are promulgating the biggest deception ever of the human race. I choose not to be distracted by that.

In a nutshell...you are not going to grow and progress if you go around being negative about the majority of individuals who have generallly tried to impart information for the benifit of all.

Negative ? For the reasons stated above - I think not.

Even the title of this thread could be classed as mischeivious.

Now that I do partially agree with. Perhaps we can co-create a new one. I can change it and I guarantee MP2 wont mind. I am open to suggestions.

I know I'm coming in strong...but I think it's needed. I am entitled to express how I feel about all this 'Bye, bye whistleblowers' stuff.

You are totally allowed to do that and you are not coming on too strong at all. Each of us is MANDATED to question everything and discern for themselves. Its the law!

The game we are playing now is for keeps. There is not much room left here on this planet for woolly thinking or sitting on the fence for too long - that fence is getting less strong all the time, and soon its going to collapse. One way or another each of us will find themselves one side of it or other. Some will change at the last moment.

It is so thrillingly exciting and such a wild ride! Personally if it wasnt already obvious, I am on the same side of that fence as MP2 - I know that I am among a crowd, and of those surrounding me are masses of discarnate forces who were never on Earth, but with hands outstretched offering help to all - the help is there for the asking.

And I'm perceiving the vibe as 'holier than thou' with negative overtones.

Sorry if that doesn't 'follow' the script...but that's how it is.

I am not seeing it the same way you do, but as with all - we are each individuals and we will each perceive things differently according to our own circumstances.

A..

[swordsmith]

I like information, I find it empowering to know what's going on behind the scenes of the globalist agenda. But whistleblowers often run out of air , get a little high on their prolonged exertions , end up a bit red in the face and sometimes carry others away with them. Then people get mad for being carted off.
I prefer people a bit more down to earth who stick to what they really know without the spin and inuendo.
Catherine Austin Fitts (the bill). http://www.redicecreations.com/radio...RIR-090823.php

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by jaby

Well you see.......that's because I'm not a follower.

No Pied Pipers for me.....and that includes YOU...

In a nutshell...you are not going to grow and progress if you go around being negative about the majority of individuals who have generallly tried to impart information for the benifit of all.

Even the title of this thread could be classed as mischeivious.

I know I'm coming in strong...but I think it's needed. I am entitled to express how I feel about all this 'Bye, bye whistleblowers' stuff. And the vibe it's giving out.

And I'm perceiving the vibe as 'holier than thou' with negative overtones.

Sorry if that doesn't 'follow' the script...but that's how it is.

No. Sorry, Jaby. This isn't about scripts or pied pipers or black and white statements where the topic under discussion is in shades of grey. If you miss, or ignore the nuances of discussion and then object to what you expect to be there instead of what actually IS there, then it's just you not following the conversation.

Your comments demonstrate a misunderstanding of the subject of this thread.

You are free to comment all you like, just as you are free to pass this thread by and go onto other subject where you are able to follow along. It's your choice.

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

information is information it is what you do with it that counts. i like david ikes take on the fact that we are saturated with what is going on, so now what are we gonna do about it. i take it all with a pinch of salt and i have good days and bad days..

[Steven]

Discernment.

When a solid revelation hits the crowd, the manipulators creates myriads of different versions of this revelation to overwhelm the minds. Each with small divergences so confusion is the result.

A good example is Latina America of the 60's. A new theology grew up in the small communities of the catholic church. "La teologia de la liberation". A movement that was synchronized with the latine communism evolution, which was very different from the one in ex-USSR.

Church became a place of union for the people. What was the response form the manipulators?

Creating and financing hundreds of different churches. It took about 15 years to divide the people. In Amazonas Brazil, 30 years later, there was over 500 different churches for a population of about 20 million people. No more movement of "liberation" nor communism strong enough to threaten the power in place.

I'm resuming the whole history forgetting many details for the purpose of reveling the patterns manipulators operate when threatens by revelation with the power to unite.

They did the same with our well know Jesus and many others. They're still doing the same with our whistleblowers. Creating an army of "false prophet" to follow their famous "book of revelation", a book that was once genuine, now so corrupted.

That's where discernment comes into play. But how to discern? You all know how. Deeply in you, you know how.

Namaste, Steven

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by eXchanger

take a good look at the colour of your palms/and,
the colour of the bottom of your feet -- all people are the same colour there

What I am talking about is people who read a book or take a course and then proclaim that they are shamans.

These are people who do not wish to put the hard work into their spirituality and they are ego-driven.

I am NOT saying that all white people who go this route are wrong.

But I have met people with absolutely no recorded native ancestry that claim to be natives. I usually don't try to correct them but rather leave them be because who am I to judge them as being wrong?

I suppose that could apply to the shaman thing as well.

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by Metaphor

I see your point, but I dont see the problem with white people turning to shamanism? Where I live it would be perfectly normal, as the old Viking-shamanism (ie Rune-magick) is still being practiced, and has been passed on from generation to generation.
Just a reflection in all friendliness. Back to topic.

Yes, eXchanger made a good point about this.

Sorry to derail the subject.

[tone3jaguar]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

I don't believe in new age anything because I see that as a movement driven purely by ego and there are some things that genuinely anger me about that movement (white people trying to become shamans is one of those things).

New Age is just a label in a society that desires to label everything. It is one of the most over used ambiguous references in the world today. Everything not main stream religion is grouped into it. For that reason I do not use the term either. On the other hand, I think that people are getting a little to hard lined with the avoid the ego paradigm. You don't make decisions that erase the ego, you raise your vibration and the ego gradually morphs and fades to subtlety. It will still be there, but only as a background template instead of the structure of your world view.

If someone is trying to become shaman when they are not born into the frequency of a shaman (astrological, not bloodlines) they will become either frustrated or very clever at tricking people. You don't choose the shamanic path, it chooses you. Yes you choose it before incarnation, but unfortunately you are oblivious to it until someone tells you or the other side walks up to you and bitch slaps you. Then about 10 years later when your head starts to slow down from the spinning induced by the spiritual bitch slap you begin to form a coherent shamanic paradigm. Or at least that is the way I understand it.

[Karen]

Originally Posted by franciejones

Well said Myplanet2. It made me laugh out loud to read the newest post on Camel Toe. I thought is was even more hilarious on the heels of Kerry saying on the radio that she and Bill were being attacked on "their own forum"...which proves they lurk here but CONTRIBUTE NOTHING. This forum is a game for them to watch and enjoy. Only to stroke the enormous ego. Too funny and sad simultaneously

franciejones,

You jump to conclusions which are not true. Kerry rarely logs into the forum - only when I report something to her that she must deal with, and her last log in as anyone can see in her profile (on the left) was June 30 at 6:29 am.

Bill Ryan's last log in was Dec 8, 2008 just shortly after he agreed to run the forum while Kerry ran Camelot. The only answer I got from Bill on that was that the Projects have whisked him off in directions and intensities he never dreamed of. And I'm guessing the new girlfriend has needed some attention.

So perhaps they know they are being attacked on their own forum because other people are reporting that to them - sending them copies?

If, as you said in another post, you're sorry for the money you sent them, why are you spending your life energy here. Every minute of my life is much more precious to me than any amount of money.

[lucrum]

The vibe of this thread got upped a bit in some of the last posts, keep up that track!

It's hard to see at first, but I think most of us agree in different words.

[franciejones]

Originally Posted by Karen

franciejones,

You jump to conclusions which are not true. Kerry rarely logs into the forum - only when I report something to her that she must deal with, and her last log in as anyone can see in her profile (on the left) was June 30 at 6:29 am.

Bill Ryan's last log in was Dec 8, 2008 just shortly after he agreed to run the forum while Kerry ran Camelot. The only answer I got from Bill on that was that the Projects have whisked him off in directions and intensities he never dreamed of. And I'm guessing the new girlfriend has needed some attention.

So perhaps they know they are being attacked on their own forum because other people are reporting that to them - sending them copies?

If, as you said in another post, you're sorry for the money you sent them, why are you spending your life energy here. Every minute of my life is much more precious to me than any amount of money.

Karen,

Why do you care if I come to this forum? Why do you always interject as though you have control over what others think and contribute here? Why do you not keep your comments regarding my posts to yourself? I find that the moderators here are very controlling. I will stay here as long as I like. I will stay here and read and post if I choose until my subscription runs out. I do not jump to any conclusions. Perhaps you do this.

[jaby]

Originally Posted by franciejones

Well said Myplanet2. It made me laugh out loud to read the newest post on Camel Toe. I thought is was even more hilarious on the heels of Kerry saying on the radio that she and Bill were being attacked on "their own forum"...which proves they lurk here but CONTRIBUTE NOTHING. This forum is a game for them to watch and enjoy. Only to stroke the enormous ego. Too funny and sad simultaneously

Originally Posted by Karen

franciejones,

You jump to conclusions which are not true. Kerry rarely logs into the forum - only when I report something to her that she must deal with, and her last log in as anyone can see in her profile (on the left) was June 30 at 6:29 am.

Bill Ryan's last log in was Dec 8, 2008 just shortly after he agreed to run the forum while Kerry ran Camelot. The only answer I got from Bill on that was that the Projects have whisked him off in directions and intensities he never dreamed of. And I'm guessing the new girlfriend has needed some attention.

So perhaps they know they are being attacked on their own forum because other people are reporting that to them - sending them copies?

If, as you said in another post, you're sorry for the money you sent them, why are you spending your life energy here. Every minute of my life is much more precious to me than any amount of money.

Originally Posted by franciejones

Karen,

Why do you care if I come to this forum? Why do you always interject as though you have control over what others think and contribute here? Why do you not keep your comments regarding my posts to yourself? I find that the moderators here are very controlling. I will stay here as long as I like. I will stay here and read and post if I choose until my subscription runs out. I do not jump to any conclusions. Perhaps you do this.

I am in whole-hearted support of Karen's post addressing what you said.

The post you made at the beginning of this thread was mischievious at best and devious at worst.

The last one you made was more of the same.

This statement you made was the pits... You said.. "This forum is a game for them to watch and enjoy. Only to stroke the enormous ego. Too funny and sad simultaneously."


While you are entitled to say what you want, within forum rules...others are entitled to do the same. Moderators do the job they do...but they are also members who can make posts just like everyone else.

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by franciejones

Karen,

Why do you care if I come to this forum? Why do you always interject as though you have control over what others think and contribute here? Why do you not keep your comments regarding my posts to yourself? I find that the moderators here are very controlling. I will stay here as long as I like. I will stay here and read and post if I choose until my subscription runs out. I do not jump to any conclusions. Perhaps you do this.

Maybe Karen is trying to protect the integrity of Camelot/Avalon as a valuable platform for the world to benefit from.

franciejones,

Does your criticism of Kerry Cassidy have anything to do with her having "chewed you out" as you relay in this post?

[franciejones]

I think it is a bit grandiose to think that this forum is something the "world" will benefit from . I am one of the original supporters of Camelot and if I or others do not appreciate the path it has recently taken, then I will share this for the people here who are smart enough to recognize it and agree with me via this forum and PM's. Each poster has the right to disagree with me OR others and to say as much. If you find my comments devious that is your opinion and take on it. I am glad you read them tho.

[franciejones]

Originally Posted by seashore

franciejones,

Does your criticism of Kerry Cassidy have anything to do with her having "chewed you out" as you relay in this post?

It could be that in part, I do not deny it. However, I use it as proof of her deluding herself long ago that Dan Burisch was a credible "witness" and unwilling to discuss anything that is contrary to what she thinks, such as in a forum. (Since you bring it up )

Also, I do not think that I am criticising her. I am only saying how ridiculous I think some of the recent events have been.

[mudra]

So long as one sees things as " good "or " bad " one misses the Heart of things .

Love always
mudra

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by franciejones

I think it is a bit grandiose to think that this forum is something the "world" will benefit from .

Why the quotation marks in the above?

[THE eXchanger]

[xxx