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Old 09-17-2008, 07:50 AM   #51
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I don't know if this Faal article is based on the "truth" or if it's deliberate disinfo. Either way, it definitely got my attention.

It's becoming exceedingly difficult to know who to "trust" these days, isn't it?

On a lighter note, something to consider...

"One of the most salient features of our culture is that there is so much ********. Everyone knows this. Each of us contributes his share. But we tend to take the situation for granted. Most people are rather confident of their ability to recognize ******** and to avoid being taken in by it. So the phenomenon has not aroused much deliberate concern, or attracted much sustained inquiry. In consequence, we have no clear understanding of what ******** is, why there is so much of it, or what functions it serves."
~Harry Frankfurt

Taken from, "On ********."
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Old 09-17-2008, 11:46 AM   #52
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[QUOTE=bluestix;14221]The Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation (FSB) is reporting in the Kremlin today that the Bank of England has received from the United States Federal Reserve Bank a ‘notice’ that President Bush is preparing to declare an ‘Economic Emergency’ during the week of October 5th and will further announce that the American Presidential election due to be held on November 4th will be ‘indefinitely suspended’. /QUOTE]

First off, who is the author of this article and how does she get this inside information? The link to the Russian site is in Russian, so I could not verify what she is saying. Further, in the text of the article, she mentions that Bush probably could not declare marshall law solely due to economic circumstances, but would require a false flag operation. I think we've all suspected this might happen, but my hunch is that, if they can be certain of their ability to control the outcome of the election, they would not resort to such extraordinary measures.

I don't know about anyone else, but lately it feels like I'm in the final moments of a thriller movie and am hopeful that the good guys win, peace is restored and we all live happily ever after....but it's still a nail biter!
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Old 09-17-2008, 12:05 PM   #53
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What more can we do then wait and see what happens.

Of course, everyone must be aware that no matter what happens, they have a choice.

They can coose ;

* Fear - It is easy to get caught up in the chaos, and even easier to lower our vibrations. But this is not the answer. For fear feeds this machine, you must understand that.

* Love and Acceptance - When we choose to accept our fate and welcome it with love in our hearts we take away much of the suffering that is usually in involved in such a scenario. We stop feeding the machine and we start feeding each others hearts. To do this requires a strong mind and a steady heart. But just know, there is nothing to ever fear, because this life is just a heartbeat to us. Go through the troubled times with love and acceptance in your hearts, no matter what.

It is up to you how you want to experience reality, and you do have a choice. Even when the whole world is crumbling down around you.

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Old 09-17-2008, 12:25 PM   #54
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The Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation (FSB) is reporting in the Kremlin today that the Bank of England has received from the United States Federal Reserve Bank a ‘notice’ that President Bush is preparing to declare an ‘Economic Emergency’ during the week of October 5th and will further announce that the American Presidential election due to be held on November 4th will be ‘indefinitely suspended’.


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Old 09-17-2008, 12:43 PM   #55
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Very interesting article - thanks for sharing.

This Sorcha Faal character really appears to strike a chord with people for some reason. I have not seen too many other article authors around here attacked or questioned for validity as quickly as this author has been - very interesting. Referencing ATS and GLP threads is also rock solid proof since neither of those sites are known to be COINTELPRO ;-)

I guess we shall see how close "she" is to the truth next month.
I think the proof is in years and years of this character making outlandish predictions - and none of them coming true.

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in America, the president can't stop elections because of an economic problem.
Yes he can. He gave the power to himself in a series of Executive Orders a few years ago.
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Old 09-17-2008, 12:46 PM   #56
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There are so many many people still sleeping in America I can't believe that I am only one of 7 sisters that believe in this. I am the crazy one. Shame of America.

Your not the crazy one. Don't be hard on yourself. I was thinking the same thing for the past 8 months after being awakened. I never once in the past thought UFO's were real and was one of those people that mocked others for believing in such nonsense. My eyes and heart are now open.
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Old 09-17-2008, 12:54 PM   #57
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Well, the question I have is, does anyone speak Russian and can try to verify this? Seems like a long shot but who knows, could help in the long run.

The piece on the closed door meeting, I saw the post earlier on Avalon about that too, very interesting. It would be nice if someone could actually verify if that meeting, whatever it was about, actually took place too. Cause ya, Alex Jones seems like another puppet to me, a half truth.
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Old 09-17-2008, 01:51 PM   #58
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Well, the question I have is, does anyone speak Russian and can try to verify this? Seems like a long shot but who knows, could help in the long run.

The piece on the closed door meeting, I saw the post earlier on Avalon about that too, very interesting. It would be nice if someone could actually verify if that meeting, whatever it was about, actually took place too. Cause ya, Alex Jones seems like another puppet to me, a half truth.
The meeting took place - that was verified by CSPAN.

The rest is just rumor and speculation. It may be true but it may not be true.

It gained traction because the conspiracy theorists began to speculate on what was discussed.

Then, Australia.to wrote a piece about the meeting and the speculation that was happening.

http://www.australia.to/story/0,2519...922,00,00.html

Then, the conspiracy theorists used that article as a reputable source to validate their claims.

It was a strange sort of circular logic.

Nobody except those that attended really know what was discussed.
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Old 09-17-2008, 02:42 PM   #59
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I have read "her" articles for years. They are all bull.

Just let this thread die...
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Old 09-17-2008, 02:56 PM   #60
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"don't scare the poor guy, tell me where even once such a weapon was used on the public in the US "

IS BETER IF YOU TRANSLATE THIS OK.

ANTE TODO MI POST ERA PARA HACERLES VER QUE ES MUCHO MEJOR SI NO ESTAN DE ACUERDO CON ALGUNA DISPOSICION DE SU GOBIERNO SALIR A LAS CALLES Y PROTESTAR, ACUERDENSE QUE USTEDES PAGAN TAXES Y QUE DE ESO TAXES SON PAGADOS SUS GOBERNANTES, OSEA ELLOS TRABAJAN PARA USTEDES, Y COBRAN SU SUELDO POR SUS TAXES, OSEA QUE USTEDES TIENEN TODO EL DERECHO DE PROTESTAR SI SUS GOBERNANTES QUIEREN HACER ALGO QUE USTEDES NO QUIEREN AQUI EN EL PERU LA PROTESTA POPULAR HACE QUE NUESTRO GOBIERNO DE MARCHA ATRAS SI NO VEAN LAS NOTICIAS DE BILIVIA SU PUEEBLO VA HA CONSEGUIR QUE EL GOBIERNO DE MARCHA ATRAS CON SUS DECRETOS QUE EL PUEBLO NO LOS QUIERE, NO ESTOY REFIRIENDO A LA VIOLENCIA SINO A UNA PROTESTA PACIFICA PERO EN DONDE ELPUEBLO RECHAZA LO QUE SU GOBERNANTE QUIERE HACER.

ESPERO QUE ENTIENDAN LA TRADUCCION... I WISH YOU UNDERSTAND DE TRANSLATION.
Can someone help me on this one?
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Old 09-17-2008, 02:56 PM   #61
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I'm confused what I saw earlier had to do with the June 8th closed door meeting, where the US dollar was dead. The article talks about the surveillance one supposedly in March (but it does mention the economic collapse).
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Old 09-17-2008, 03:39 PM   #62
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ANTE TODO MI POST ERA PARA HACERLES VER QUE ES MUCHO MEJOR SI NO ESTAN DE ACUERDO CON ALGUNA DISPOSICION DE SU GOBIERNO SALIR A LAS CALLES Y PROTESTAR, ACUERDENSE QUE USTEDES PAGAN TAXES Y QUE DE ESO TAXES SON PAGADOS SUS GOBERNANTES, OSEA ELLOS TRABAJAN PARA USTEDES, Y COBRAN SU SUELDO POR SUS TAXES, OSEA QUE USTEDES TIENEN TODO EL DERECHO DE PROTESTAR SI SUS GOBERNANTES QUIEREN HACER ALGO QUE USTEDES NO QUIEREN AQUI EN EL PERU LA PROTESTA POPULAR HACE QUE NUESTRO GOBIERNO DE MARCHA ATRAS SI NO VEAN LAS NOTICIAS DE BILIVIA SU PUEEBLO VA HA CONSEGUIR QUE EL GOBIERNO DE MARCHA ATRAS CON SUS DECRETOS QUE EL PUEBLO NO LOS QUIERE, NO ESTOY REFIRIENDO A LA VIOLENCIA SINO A UNA PROTESTA PACIFICA PERO EN DONDE ELPUEBLO RECHAZA LO QUE SU GOBERNANTE QUIERE HACER.


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First and foremost, my post was to make you see that it is much better, if you disagree with some government regulation, to take to the streets and protest. Remember it is your tax money that pays the salaries of government employees, and that they work for you. You have every right to protest if the government does something you don't want. Here in Peru popular protest has made our government back off of decrees that the people don't want. I'm not referring to violence, but to peaceful protest wherein the people reject what the government wants to do.

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Old 09-17-2008, 04:02 PM   #63
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No way... this would never work... This is not the way to suspend an election.... This would never fly. Think BIGGER. Think DARKER... Blood has to be spilled. We must have a knee jerk reaction that is acceptable to the populace. Remember how on 9/11/o1, the average outraged citizen wanted to turn the mid east into glass? It has to be palatable by the average cat or the soldiers will AWOL.
Maybe, Osama Bin Laden will be carted out from a D.U.M.B. and on the same day there will be staged "reprisals" from all of those alleged "dirty bomb" sleeper cells within the U.S..
Its got to be a Hollywood type event: lots of sparkly things, violence, and colorful explosions... and the hero: Dubya.
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Old 09-17-2008, 04:19 PM   #64
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Build an economic entity around them. Start with community markets and we can go from there.....If you are serious.
Now that sounds good and all. But I think no amount of seriousness on anybodies part will create an economic entity outside the FED (in America) or the central banks throughout the rest of the world.

Am I being naive?
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Old 09-17-2008, 04:31 PM   #65
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Много Россиян фактически говорят Английский. Россияне, которые делают, находятся обычно в бизнесе и правительстве. Я не был в состоянии проверить историю.

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Many Russians actually speak English. The Russians that do are usually in business and government. I haven't been able to verify the story.
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Old 09-17-2008, 04:34 PM   #66
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Elections ... what elections our last two presidents have been appointed...

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Old 09-17-2008, 04:39 PM   #67
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Just in case some folks need some hope.

There was a group that met (attended by about 750 on the farm where I live). The main topics of discussion were an alternative economy and communities.


There is a way to get hooked into to all this but only those that seek and knock will have the door open...

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Waterman, where in the midwest are you from? I am from Nebraska.
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Old 09-17-2008, 04:44 PM   #68
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Martial Law because of Economical Emergency?



I don't think he will get away with it.
Is this the same Man that keeps stating that the economy is booming as a preacher to his choir (of by the MSM claimed 34%)?

BTW, where exactly IN the constitution is it stated, that the President can Overrule the Constitution, specifically the part where it states how and when the president is elected, or his term limits?



Since Bush gave himself the powers to do so via Executive Decision. I don't recall the # but Bush basically made himself King. He has also done away with the rules that are supposed to keep the military from being used as law enforcement. FEMA has all their camps built...
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Old 09-17-2008, 08:55 PM   #69
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Since Bush gave himself the powers to do so via Executive Decision. I don't recall the # but Bush basically made himself King. He has also done away with the rules that are supposed to keep the military from being used as law enforcement. FEMA has all their camps built...
Yes, that is common knowledge, but are you actually saying that you take that little child serious? He can claim himself King of the Moon, Master of the universe, and have gazillions of brainless goons fullfil his wishes and commands like the Sun king of French history ...
He can claim whatever he want...That habeus Corpus ain't a natural right, that you don't have freedom of speech, But in the end and down the line is only one thing important
DO you take his claims serious? Do act accordingly, by bowing down for his Majesty and his imaginary kingdom? Or do you give him an imaginary -,|,, , smile and continue whatever you are doing?

Ever imagined a Thomas Jeffersion and the Idiot Son of Bush Sr in the same room debating ANY subject? Bush Jr ain't even good enough to polish the shoes of a Jefferson.
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Old 09-17-2008, 09:05 PM   #70
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no offense to the original post, but if we're going to think of this site as a credible means of information we have to do a better job of citing verifiable sources. if this was an actual story "reported in the kremlin", then there should be reference to it made by the source cited. i went to the link and did not see any reference. maybe i overlooked. if not, then we should try to find an actual source. in my opinion, no source = speculation or disinformation.
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Old 09-17-2008, 09:06 PM   #71
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ANTE TODO MI POST ERA PARA HACERLES VER QUE ES MUCHO MEJOR SI NO ESTAN DE ACUERDO CON ALGUNA DISPOSICION DE SU GOBIERNO SALIR A LAS CALLES Y PROTESTAR, ACUERDENSE QUE USTEDES PAGAN TAXES Y QUE DE ESO TAXES SON PAGADOS SUS GOBERNANTES, OSEA ELLOS TRABAJAN PARA USTEDES, Y COBRAN SU SUELDO POR SUS TAXES, OSEA QUE USTEDES TIENEN TODO EL DERECHO DE PROTESTAR SI SUS GOBERNANTES QUIEREN HACER ALGO QUE USTEDES NO QUIEREN AQUI EN EL PERU LA PROTESTA POPULAR HACE QUE NUESTRO GOBIERNO DE MARCHA ATRAS SI NO VEAN LAS NOTICIAS DE BILIVIA SU PUEEBLO VA HA CONSEGUIR QUE EL GOBIERNO DE MARCHA ATRAS CON SUS DECRETOS QUE EL PUEBLO NO LOS QUIERE, NO ESTOY REFIRIENDO A LA VIOLENCIA SINO A UNA PROTESTA PACIFICA PERO EN DONDE ELPUEBLO RECHAZA LO QUE SU GOBERNANTE QUIERE HACER.


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First and foremost, my post was to make you see that it is much better, if you disagree with some government regulation, to take to the streets and protest. Remember it is your tax money that pays the salaries of government employees, and that they work for you. You have every right to protest if the government does something you don't want. Here in Peru popular protest has made our government back off of decrees that the people don't want. I'm not referring to violence, but to peaceful protest wherein the people reject what the government wants to do.

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Thank you Scotty,

Maybe we should all move to Peru...
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Old 09-17-2008, 09:08 PM   #72
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I think they will wait until the giant ufo over Alabama appears on October 14!!!
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Old 09-17-2008, 09:13 PM   #73
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Yes, he can in case of a stock market crash:
you will note, under the patriot act, once the president declares martial law he can:

"* Martial law can be declared due to natural disasters, Y2k Crisis, Stock Market crash, no electricity, riots, biological attack, .... anything leading to the breakdown of law and order."


* Martial law is defined as: military rule or authority imposed on a civilian population when the civil authorities cannot maintain law and order, as in a time of war or during an emergency.
* Hitler turned Germany into a Nazi dictatorship through executive orders.
* Executive Order 10995: All communications media are to be seized by the Federal Government. Radio, TV, newspapers, CB, Ham, telephones, and the internet will be under federal control. Hence, the First Amendment will be suspended indefinitely.
* Executive Order 10997: All electrical power, fuels, and all minerals well be seized by the federal government.
* Executive Order 10998: All food resources, farms and farm equipment will be seized by the government. You will not be allowed to hoard food since this is regulated.
* Executive Order 10999: All modes of transportation will go into government control. Any vehicle can be seized.
* Executive Order 11000: All civilians can be used for work under federal supervision.
* Executive Order 11490: Establishes presidential control over all US citizens, businesses, and churches in time of "emergency."
* Executive Order 12919: Directs various Cabinet officials to be constantly ready to take over virtually all aspects of the US economy during a State of National Emergency at the direction of the president.
* Executive Order 13010: Directs FEMA to take control over all government agencies in time of emergency. FEMA is under control of executive branch of the government.
* Executive Order 12656: "ASSIGNMENT OF EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS RESPONSIBILITIES", "A national emergency is any occurrence, including natural disaster, military attack, technological emergency, or other emergency that seriously degrades or seriously threatens the national security of the United States. Policy for national security emergency preparedness shall be established by the President." This order includes federal takeover of all local law enforcement agencies, wage and price controls, prohibits you from moving assets in or out of the United States, creates a draft, controls all travel in and out of the United States, and much more.
* Martial law can be declared due to natural disasters, Y2k Crisis, Stock Market crash, no electricity, riots, biological attack, .... anything leading to the breakdown of law and order.

SURVIVING MARTIAL LAW

* Prepare before any declaration of marial law by becoming self reliant. You may become subject to a bureaucratic system and be prepared to stay one step ahead of it which is easy to do if you are prepared and in a position to be self reliant. You may also face mob rule, chaos, panic, or a complete breakdown in law and order. Surival situations may be easier to handle in rural areas than urban.
* Avoid areas of marital law. Can be imposed due to natural disasters or man caused events. Important to have a retreat or place in a rural area away from populated areas.
* Create alliances with like minded neighbors or community members that share your views. Team work and numbers may help your situation.
* Become transparent in the sense that you do not draw attention to yourself or your family. For instance, do not tell people that you are storing food just store food. Be prepared to render assistance to neighbors if need be. You never know when you will need them.
* Remain calm! Do not panic.
* Avoid areas of civil unrest if possible. If caught in civil unrest take appropriate action.
* Get informed and stay informed. Understand martial law can be a temporary crisis or an extended one. In extreme cases the shape of a whole nation can change.
* Declaration of martial law means your rights are suspended and it is government by decree. Your constitutional rights may no longer apply. This could mean a state of National Emergency.
* People can be arrested and imprisoned indefinitely without charges.
* Freedom of speech and freedom of assembly can be suspended, and censorship of the media imposed.
* Gun ownership will also come under severe attack during marital law. We could see house to house searches by the military or National Guard looking for guns and seizing any they find along with stored food.
* Take a stand on issues and make a choice that fits your beliefs and the situation. Do you believe as Patrick Henry, "Give me liberty or give me death?" Realize you may have some hard choices to make. Understand you may have to sacrifice your principles on trivial matters or take a hard stand. Always remember that you may have to come back and fight another day.
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Old 09-17-2008, 09:15 PM   #74
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not my words, got that from : http://www.nyc.indymedia.org/front.p...ticle_id=50845
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Old 09-18-2008, 04:13 PM   #75
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please don't forget our role in all of this!
we are all creating our future here, every thought, every word
constantly

please don't forget how WONDERFUL + POWERFUL
YOU ARE!!!!!

we are all co-creators in everything that happens
good or bad

let's CHOOSE to make this a GOOD outcome
think positive about everything, especially now

LET LOVE RULE

NO FEAR!

Fake
Evidence
Appearing
Real

Peace, Love + Light to all

NOW you're talkin' my language. Whatever happens, we are all capable of creating a positive outcome. We are living through exciting times. Times of high drama. We are witnessing the fall of empires on an epic scale, economic collapse, environmental catastrophes and a host of other things all happening at the same time. And that's just if you watch the news. If you read, go online and dig, you'll discover two things: one, that things are probably even worse than you thought; and two, there's a whole lot of really good and really hopeful stuff going on too, that isn't on the news or in the papers at all.

I am not at all in denial about all the dire portents, evil men (and women) and terrible events of the times. But I will not become unbalanced. I see also the nobility of the men and women who resist the darkness. They, too, exist in business and in government, and they silently and sometimes secretly and at great risk oppose the worst of the evil that men propose. (And women).

I see the huge idealism of the young - and know that every time I demonstrate that not every member of previous generations is a sellout, I do a good thing. And I know from experience that the boundaries of our perceptions are far from concrete. There IS balance.

If the worst happens, we will overcome it in time. Some of our bodies may perish in the struggle and hardship that is to come, but that is of no consequence in the long run. We all die anyway, so why does everyone run from it so? Knowing what I'm willing to die for also instructs me on what to live for, and that is where I keep my awareness, but I do not fear death. I do fear pain and suffering, but I have endured enough to fear them far less than most.

We know that the system will fail. It is a house of cards. We are witnessing how it stands in the hurricane of world events. But we also know that the nobility of the spirit is imperishable.

Do whatever you can, within your means and your paradigms, to prepare for what may come. If you have food and water stored, you will probably need them. I'd stock up on items that can be used as money: cartons of cigarettes, bottles of booze. But there's only so much any of us can do. Events may trump every plan we make.

Do what you can, what you feel you must, but stay in the light.

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