Dr. Steven M. Greer

[watchZEITGEISTnow]

About 50 pages to read, great book, especially how he exposes the black op chicken hawks.

I want to know a few things, example who are the Mr X's and the such he only uses initials on eg Gen Mk ect...

I also want to know what's been happening with Steve and co??

I mean by now this should really be expanding, but it seems stuck in 2001?

I have looked at his site and it seems again stuck.

Would love to see a Project Camelot interview with himke *nudge nudge*!

Z

[Bayareamom]

I thought of one last thing re: Steven Greer's research re: MILABS. I recall in listening to Melinda Leslie's and Joe Montaldo's most recent interview that fact that one reason these MILABS are NOT the most prevalent of abduction scenarios, IS THE EXPENSE. Thousands if not millions, of people are being abducted -- it's just ludicrous to think that any one government entity or corporation, would have a) enough manpower to pull these things off, and b) the expense would be unthinkable.

The reason, as Melinda suggests, these re-abductions are taking place, is BECAUSE of the alien abduction scenario. Researchers such as Leslie and Montaldo theorize that the various government/military factions do not fully understand the various agendas being carried out by several ET species vis-a-vis the abduction scenario. Melinda states further, that it is apparent these military MILAB personnel are becoming quite desperate in their attempts to solicit information from various alien abductees. Again, as Melinda suggests re: her own MILAB abductions, it seems evident not all is known by our government(s) as to what these Beings are doing. These poor MILAB abductees are qrilled quite extensively by government factions as to what they've been told by the ETs and how much they know about flying the craft.

As much as I really do admire Steven Greer, I have to ask just how or why he thinks most abductions are MILAB in nature. His research does not parallel most other research documentation. Further, I have been told by one particular researcher to beware Greer's motives -- not sure I want to get into all of that -- but suffice to say Greer's research does leave me a bit puzzled.

[Carol]

Originally Posted by Contactee77

Where is Dr. Greer these days ????
Seems he suddenly dropped off the radar ...

He lives in Colorado not to far from Paola Harris but also has a place on the East Coast. I believe he is doing one of his workshoprs but forgot the location and of course they're working on the Orion project.

[rhythm]

been meaning to get stevens book for ages , i realy dig him alot . there is always a few people that you just feel are right on it . so heads up on this .
come back with some comment when i have read it , thanks for bringing it back to my attention .blessings rhythmmmm .

[efields]

Great info my experience confirms this.

[Heretic]

Originally Posted by Contactee77

Where is Dr. Greer these days ????
Seems he suddenly dropped off the radar ...

he must have run into a pretty big obstacle

he doesn't seem to be pushing for disclosure much anymore

all he really wanted was the classified technologies that could alter life on this planet for the better

now he seems to be trying to get them via the Orion Project instead

I wonder what made him change his activities away from his original disclosure project

[jakelee]

Regarding Dr. Greer i´ve heard / read, that he stated something like : he has done everything possible with the Disclosure Project, and the disclosure (which actually has been, due to his presentation with all of the people that backed him up )takes time to seep through all the different "layers" in our world.
I therefore believe that his maingoal right now, is to get some free energy / ZPE out with some help from different scientist...
The Orion Project started up like a year ago, but there haven´t been any big breakthroughs yet - SAD. I dont know where they are right now in the process.
But let us cross our fingers, coz´ ZPE would really affect the whole world, in a positive way - think about it...WOW
So now, the whole disclosure-thing, is just a matter of time ( 1 year / 50 years ?) and possible with co-work from others like him, for example : Stephen Basset, Exopolitics or the like.
best raggards
Jacob

[Heretic]

That is a very convincing point jakelee, and makes sense

regarding the Orion Project:

has he looked into all the other over unity devices out there as there are many techs that have shown promise in terms of weening ourselves off of the fossil fuels completely

do these other devices work or not?

would it not suit him to check out already existing possibilities?

I'm a little lost on that, are most if not all bogus?

I am not at all trying to paint Greer in a bad light, I really love the guy, but something isn't making sense to me on this

maybe he is just going for the big one...ZPE like jakelee says

[Topper]

Jakelee, there are many projects in production, and operating, using alternative energy. Many cities have resorted to wind power, San Francisco, Atlantic City, Buffalo, etc, etc. In Seville Spain they're are constructing the Tesla Grid, to be completed by 2013, which will provide free energy for the whole city. Our politicians who have large money making investments in OIL are keeping us from perfecting atlernative energy.

[jakelee]

Yes I too think it makes sense concerning his efforts with the ZPE thing.
But I must admit, like you said, that probably most / all? of what you find on Youtube about ZPE etc. is bogus.
I find it pretty frustrating and have a hard time digesting these videos…so mostly I skip them, hoping some day someone like Dr. Greer states : “ Now its here, the Wonder machine which call for a paradigm shift en masse “ !
I´m not technically skilled or have the money to reproduce all the fancy machines and what have you. I would love too, but it just seems out off reach for me…but i´m having a lot of thoughts regarding this “new society” and how it could look like.
In a way it´s strange so many apparently workable units isn´t reproduced by someone. And here the conspiracy begins with all the scientist disappearing, destroyed prototypes, charlatans etc.
On the other hand I believe there is something we have overlooked in the physics / Newtonian laws – but again hey i´m not into these sciences and cant explain it…call it a gut feeling.
Yes Topper, I think it´s great that a lot of big cities is converting to wind power etc.
We have done that (windmills) in the last 30 years here in Denmark, and it is actually a very good business, beside all the beneficial environmental issues.
He he, it all started in the 70´s with some hippies, most people laughed at them and thought they were nuts, and now it’s a billion industry...say no more. It is the future !
Unfortunately our government stopped the cashflow into our prototype wave energy machines 3 or 4 years ago - I think it´s a crime and hope they will change this course.
Interesting with this Tesla Grid in Sevilla…haven´t heard of that technology. Will definitely check it out ! Maybe you´ve got a cool link ?
Best Regards

[Topper]

Jakelee, in 1898 and 1923 Tesla patented several devices that provide free energy. Unfortunately, Edison had the devices destroyed and his blueprints seized. Info on Tesla is abundant, just google his name and free energy. About your govt. halting funds for alternative energy machines, it's time for the people of Denmark to put pressure on them. Here in the U.S. we created a new form of entertainment called staycation. The govt. wouldn't do anything about the rising cost of gas, so the people stopped using it. Staycations are where people get several videos, make something to eat, get something to drink, and stay home. As this caught on, gas consumption dropped. Now the price of gas is dropping. I wish you well in Denmark, my grandfather hails from Randers, across the bay from Copenhagen.
Peace, love and harmony!

[RSF]

Poor Tesla died and the Govt confiscated all his papers. Patents are strange, if you invent something eg free energy device, the Govt knows where to send the Oil Men. Or just refuse the patent application. But if an inventor really wanted to provide the world with his/her invention for free energy, why would they wish to apply for patent in the first place?
As for Dr Greer, He made his move through the Washington Press Club but shortly afterward and before it could pick up steam, 911 occurred.
RSF

[Topper]

Tesla lost out to Edison. Greer, he claims, through his ce5 protocol, that he can contact et and make them appear. But he can't get enough people to believe him or support him. I suggested that he contact et and ask et to meet him on the great lawn in Washington D.C. at noon on any day, this way everyone will have to believe him. Seeing is believing. To this day, Greer has not attempted my suggestion.

[Jnana]

Greer's Orion Project, an attempt to design, manufacture and sell a practical free energy device (the energy produced is free, the device isn't), should be considered as part of the disclosure effort for the following reason: part of the reason for the cover up of UFOs is to keep a lid on the ET technologies. Once this stuff gets out, the entire economic system built around oil, coal, and other expensive energy sources will be overturned in short order. This is a HUGE BIG DEAL. Once this technology is out, part of the reason for all of the secrecy goes away, along with a big part of the cost of running society, and a gigantic source of pollution. If you know anything about the history of people who had success in this area, you know they have all been shut down one way or another. Will Greer succede? I sure hope so, 'cause there isn't much time left to save the earth from the mess we're making of it.

Is this technology real? I've spent quite a bit of time digging into it, and my opinion is that it is totally real. There are a number of unusual electral phenomena such as "cold electricity" that have been discovered and used by a number of researchers/inventors (Tom Bearden calls this phenomenon Dirac Sea holes). Interactions between electricity/magnetism and gravity have also been discovered multiple times (and shut down).

UFOs clearly don't have rocket engines so they must be using some kind of gravitational/field propulsion. T. Townsend Brown (the guy in my icon picture) was an early researcher in electrogravitics. Put two field propulsion units on a shaft and you have an electrogravitic motor - free energy. Townsend Brown demonstrated such a device. There are numerous other ways that have been discovered for extracting energy from the universe without combustion, fission, or fusion, many of which use cold electricity in some way rather than electrogravitics.

Greer is not inventing these things himself - he's a medical doctor. He's trying to find legitimate inventors who are already working in this area and support them. There are plenty of free energy hoaxers out there, just like there are plenty of UFO hoaxers. Anybody with half a brain will want to see hard evidence before accepting any device as the real thing.

I feel very strongly that Greer is sincere in this effort and has a good plan for getting this technology out to the world.

I am not involved in the Orion Project in any way, but I am a supporter. For more information visit the website: The Orion Project

[goody8504]

Originally Posted by Topper

Tesla lost out to Edison. Greer, he claims, through his ce5 protocol, that he can contact et and make them appear. But he can't get enough people to believe him or support him. I suggested that he contact et and ask et to meet him on the great lawn in Washington D.C. at noon on any day, this way everyone will have to believe him. Seeing is believing. To this day, Greer has not attempted my suggestion.

you're suggestion of guiding ETs to the whitehouse lawn seems like a good one at first. but you have to take into consideration a few other things. there is the universal law of free will. you cannot infringe upon somebodys free will. most of the world would not appreciate ufo's showing up in DC. this is plenty of evidence to supportt his given by many many ufo researchers.

i'm reminded of a story dr. greer shared once. it is well known that he has these CE5 protocols. however, it will only work if everybody in the group has peaceful intentions. there was one particular man who wanted to see these ufo's show up because he must have wanted to make a buck or something, not because he genuinely wanted to make contact and become, as greer calls them, an embassador of earth. everytime this man was present and the group would try to make contact, the ETs would not show. however, this particular guy was late one time and, of course, he just missed the contact.

what we can conclude here is that unless earth as a whole is ready to make contact and has the correct intentions for desiring contact, the ETs will not show up. therefore, no, they will not land on the whitehouse lawn anytime soon. yes, it would end the debate about the existence of ETs, but the ETs do not have to prove their existence.

the proof is abundant for those who wish to find it and can piece it together (quite fankly anytime with half a brain can figure out they exist). landing on the whitehouse lawn would only cause more bad than good at this point in time. but just have patience. the time will come when it will be appropriate for them to do so, it's just not now.

[RSF]

Hi all... goody8504 Greer's Gear. Twenty years ago the man acted like JC himself.. 'My (his) Team this, and My Team that. He wanted and insisted on running the whole alien exploration world amongst us researchers. Dr Greer was so invested in himself he would seldom allow others to speak with abc networks documentarians and/or people working with him who had the ufolological experience.

He was stuck up and had a complete Ï'm "(Greer's) in charge attitude" it made all of us feel pretty-bad. But he was a certified anesthesiologist.

So kick back a wee-bit and understand there's a bunch of us here that have some knowledge on stuff -- too.

RSF

[goody8504]

Originally Posted by RSF

Hi all... goody8504 Greer's Gear. Twenty years ago the man acted like JC himself.. 'My (his) Team this, and My Team that. He wanted and insisted on running the whole alien exploration world amongst us researchers. Dr Greer was so invested in himself he would seldom allow others to speak with abc networks documentarians and/or people working with him who had the ufolological experience.

He was stuck up and had a complete Ï'm "(Greer's) in charge attitude" it made all of us feel pretty-bad. But he was a certified anesthesiologist.

So kick back a wee-bit and understand there's a bunch of us here that have some knowledge on stuff -- too.

RSF

i never claimed greer was the only ufologist who had credibility? i simply used him as an example because he is what i would consider one of the best. who else has gathered over 500 witnesses of the calliber of the disclosure project witnesses?