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Here is ur Second Coming of Jesus --
"Prince Christian of Denmark" born October 15, 2005 He is the son of Crown Prince Frederik and his wife, the Australian born Crown Princess Mary. Take note of the names .. Mary + Christian Theres also alot of symbology with flags / orgs but i dont remember all that blah blah .. ![]() ~~~ Someone wrote up a good story about this .. if u look on the net you can find it ... |
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Imagine Jezus landing while everybody just took off for the Pleiades........
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Regarding the view as to wether or not Jesus will return in human form during this time, consider the following excerpts from "Seth Speaks".
Peace, (:-DeeZe pages 370-371 "The historical Jesus knew who He was, but He also knew that He was one of three personalities composing one entity. To a large extent He shared in the memory of the other two. The third personality, mentioned many times by me, has not in your terms yet appeared, although his existence has been prophesied as the "Second Coming". Now, these prophecies were given in terms of the current culture at that time, and therefore, while the stage has been set, the distortions are deplorable, for this Christ will not come at the end of your world as the prophecies have been maintaining. He will not come to reward the righteous and send evildoers to eternal doom. He will, however, begin a new religious drama. A certain historical continuity will be maintained. As happened once before, however, He will not be generally known for who He is. There will be no glorious proclamation to which the whole world will bow. He will return to straighten out Christianity, which will be in a shambles at the time of His arrival, and to set up a new system of thought when the world is sorely in need of one. ![]() page 372 There were three men whose lives became confused in history and merged, and whose composite history became known as the life of Christ....Each was highly gifted psychically, knew of his role, and accepted it willingly. The three men were a part of one entity, gaining physical existence in one time. They were not born on the same date, however. There are reasons why the entity did not return as one person. For one thing, the full consciousness of an entity would be too strong for one physical vehicle. For another, the entity wanted a more diversified environment that could otherwise be provided. The entity was born once as John the "Baptist, and then He was born in two other forms. One of these contained the personality that most stories of Christ refer to.... page 373 The third historical personage, already born in your terms, and a portion of the entire Christ personality, took upon himself the role of a zealot. This person had superior energy and power and great organizing abilities, but it was the errors that he made unwittingly that perpetuated some dangerous distortions. The records of that historical period are scattered and contradictory. The man, historically now, was Paul or Saul. It was given to him to set up a framework. But it was to be a framework of ideas, not of regulations; of men, not of groups. Here he fell down, and he will return as the third personality, just mentioned, in your future. page 374 When the third personality reemerges historically, however, He will not be called the old Paul, but will carry within Him the characteristics of all the three personalities. page 376 I would like to make certain points clear. The "new" religion following the Second Coming will not be Christian in your terms, although the third personality of Christ will initiate it. page 377 This personality will refer to the historical Christ, will recognize His relationship with that personality; but within him the three personality groupings will form a new psychic entity, a different psychological gestalt. As this metamorphosis takes place, it will initiate a metamorphosis on a human level also, as man's inner abilities are accepted and developed. The results will be a different kind of existence. Many of your problems now result from spiritual ignorance. No man will look down upon an individual from another race when he himself recognizes that his own existence includes such membership also." |
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Yes I have also heard multiple prophecies that ETs are planning to replicate our spiritual order and pretend to save us from harm we're essentially causing to ourselves. It all brings me to one conclusion.
Is this really unavoidable? Our people are unwilling to help themselves, they just beg somebody else will come in and do it for them. We have the power to change the world, make it whatever we want it, but so many people are docile and hopeless. |
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I believe you are correct as for the masses being fooled by this fake Christ also called the Anti Chriist. Your advice to question everything is also a point well taken and also is taught in the Bible. According to the scriptures that I have read to become more informed The real "Jesus Christ" will not come back to this Earth while we as humans are still in the physical bodies that we now inhabit. There is scripture that teaches "That all flesh will be changed, in the twinkling of an eye" just before the "real Jesus" comes back. So as long as you live in the same flesh you have now you will not see Jesus. One day while you are going about your daily business and you notice a change in your flesh "all of a sudden", then start looking for "Y'shua Messiah" to show up but not until that point. This is what a lot of people are calling the ascension that is coming soon. Where we as humans go into another "density" or "dimension" through the change in the basic vibratory rate that is the "current" third dimensional spin we all are living in at this time. In other words don't look for "Y'shua Messiah" until your flesh has changed. |
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Ask yourself honestly.
If a 'being' came to earth promising peace, love, happiness and prosperity for all in exchange for taking a little microchip, and 90% of the population bought into it - Would you be able to accept the consequences of non-compliance and go either to your death or prison? This may be the choice we're all faced with. |
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The question Gabe Gabriel is how long is a "twinkling of the eye of God"? My guess, about as long as a piece of string. Not necessarilly 'suddenly' as man sees it. I don't accept that 2012 will bring about a sudden shift or transition to a new 'density'. I believe "Ra" and David Wilcock are mistaken about that. The inner- realisation of christ consciousness (the higher- Self) can raise the vibration of body and soul so that would qualify as a "change in the flesh" for sure. But that is something that happens as each individual realises the inner- light rather than to masses of people in Dec 2012.
The 'second coming of Christ' is a state of consciousness and whether or not that translates into a golden age society in 2012, individuals can walk the earth right now in spiritual communion with the christ- Self. "NOW is the accepted time sayeth the (inner) LORD" |
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People, the second coming of Yahushua is not something to be taken lightly. There will be some false comings that will trick the mainstream audience, Catholics, and Sunday-church goers. These false messiahs will cause miracles, yes, but are puny (more dust mites puny) compared to the Son of Yahweh's appearance. When the True Yahushua arrives here, ALL of mankind will see, hear, and experience his arrival. The trumpets will be blown in the closest Heavens (the Earth sky) and the Son of Man will be shown brighter than the sun! All beings on this Earth will know Who he is and there will be no sprinkling of a doubt whatsoever (followers of Lucifer will tremble in fear...understatement). Of course, the false showing will happen first. Be on guard spiritually....seek Father Yahweh today. That's the only way you are going to have a tiny chance of surviving the onslaught of deception, death, and suffering. Don't forget that even the "elect" (seed of Abraham) of Yahweh can be deceived.
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First, it's a belief, not a knowledge coming from within. I feel it is this way, but I can not say it will be true. I believe the cosmic Christ will manifest into our Hearts. Not especially at 12/21/2012 11:11, but sometimes after it and I see it as a progressive crescendo event. Not a person embodied in the flesh, but a cosmic divine presence who already dwells in our Hearts. It will simply grow to a point where it can not be avoid by our intellect/mental/Ego anymore. All will be free to accept it or not. For those who accept, the little voice inside will become the greater presence within. No more teacher needed, no more religion, no more leader, just a nation of free Human becoming on the genuine path to divinity. Christ being the bridge between Creator and Creatures. But as I said before, it is a feeling only from my perception, it might be something totally different. Namaste, Steven Last edited by Steven; 10-26-2008 at 10:10 PM. |
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You claim you can't trust the bible? On what authority? Your own? It takes more faith not to believe the bible than to believe it. Every ancient bible manuscript that has ever been found matches what we have today my friend. I beg you, I plead with you. Please. You better investigate that before you build your own truth. And for the people here quoting ET's aka demons. They mix a little truth with a little lie. They know their destination, they want yours to be with them. Christs return will be like this: Christ returns in the clouds for ALL to see Him. Believers in Christ will be taken (snatched) out, aka blessed hope, aka rapture. This is not the second coming, that comes 7 years later with His saints, aka believers to do battle at Armageddon. Those 7 years will be hard for anyone to become a believer in Jesus. Satan will have a beautiful explaination of the mass disappearance. So much so that if it were possible would fool the very elect, aka saints, aka believers in Jesus Christ. After Revelations chapter 3: All believers, aka saints, aka the church, aka the elect, aka believers in Jesus Christ, etc. are not mentioned any longer because we are not here. We are with Jesus where we will be with Him forever more. We have been raptured. The people that remain will see the anti-christ (lucifer) immediately set up shop in Jerusalem claiming to be God and performing miracles and demanding to be worshipped. This is called the abomination of desolation in Matthew 24. This is how you will know that you have been left behind. Your only hope at this last point will be to put your hope and trust in Jesus Christ and believe that He paid the price for your sins on the cross. But if this is foolishness to you now it will be ultra-foolishness to you then because of the great deception in the land. So instead of believing in the doctrines of demons by creating "your own reality" and looking "within self"- go find you a born again believer of Jesus Christ and pray and repent of your sins and ask God to apply His Son's shed blood to your sin debt and its all good. Its that simple. Don't gamble with eternity any longer. What have you got to loose? (nothing) What have you to gain? (everything). God says in His word that it has not been put in mans heart to know what awesomeness He has in store for His people. Get this taken care of people. You are running out of time. |
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![]() It's a sad thing if one thinks they can't find 'truths' within one own self. Almost all my philosophical concepts I have developed on my own completely outside of other influences. I wrote a paper that is for the most part identical to Plato's allegory of the cave, before I even knew it existed. 2500 years apart, and developing the exact same thoughts about 'universal truths' then god damnit that has to be some serious universal truths! Here's a lesson people in universal truth. If you were born, and thrown into a jail cell from birth with no reference material (ie holy books) and able to figure something out without any outside influences, like here's a rat, oh and there's another rat, a little bit fatter, but still another rat. OMG wait, that's two rats! Then there you go, that's a universal truth. And thus, the two rat void the fat concept was born! ![]() |
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sooo many people agreeing about the exact same thing
yet fighting over labels and names the Buddha laughs HAH! |
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From the looks of our solar system, and all the crash landed UFOs here on earth, I would have to say our King is back.
Beware of it, , , , Be aware of it. |
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Elvis is in the room? j/k
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No Elvis has just left the building!
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To answer your first question, yes, I claim I can not trust the Bible alone. The reason is very simple. It has been altered many times. Just look at all the Bibles we have today, they are all different one from another. So which is the perfect one? Which one is the only one in which nothing have been altered by third party over two thousands of years? The Bible is a book of books. Bible means library. Why the institutional church have stopped to include other stories after the Apocalypse? Does it mean God have stopped to manifest to his people after John and Paul? Creator never stopped to manifest to us. But the institutional Church stopped to include other stories after Paul and John. First manipulation. Then you have the Roman Empire who decide to instead of feeding Christians to lions, they will tolerate the religions. In fact, over the years, instead of tolerating it, the Empire began to alter it. Even if Constantin's intention was genuine. Then you have the Popes, many have decided to change a little line here and there. Then you have the scholars and Jesuits, altering translations to better fit the Kingdom of the institutional church. Then the schisms... Just to mention a few... I'm in no way saying it has no truth. I am saying you can not trust it alone and you must be able to compare when you read it, especially when you take it literally as you do. Do you know the Cabal? The art of coding a message within a message. I bet you do. But you don't want to look at it. I don't want to get into details because it would be pages of intellectual blah, blah on the topic. Don't beg me, you are using a victim consciousness by doing so, the Universal Laws always work even if you don't believe them. This was the essence of the teaching of Jesus, and this is almost gone from the gospels in every Bible. Tell me, do you really feel the second coming will be the way you are describing? Looking within yourself and being aware of your own reality are the pinnacle of the words of Jesus. Read it again, especially when he says to love each others. Where does love come from? From within yourself. Sin... A powerful tool to make us all feeling guilty, thus maintaining a constant victim consciousness in Hu-manity. Do not associate Jesus with this even if it is written in the Bible. Stop reading the Bible and start to live it. Only then, you will understand it. Namaste, Steven Last edited by Steven; 10-28-2008 at 01:43 AM. |
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Ok, here is a kind of poll: If Jesus beamed down from the sky or materialized in Damascus, Syria wearing a Buddhist's saffron robe and said "don't worship me, worship your Creator", would you do it?
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Ah, interesting stuff. I haven't read all the Seth material, but some of it. It strikes me as plausible but not authoritative, and I'm not settled on the nature of the entity that transmitted the data. These quotes are particularly intriguing to me since I have been a Bahá'i. The Bahá'is believe that Baha'u'llah was in fact the second coming of Christ, and this material does little to contradict that...other than the time reference:
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There is only one true religion, and it isn't organized. And it comes in colors, flavors, with different rhythms and keys. It's syncopated, synergistic, synchronistic and psychologically sound. How's that for alliteration? But if there are messiah figures...and there are...it's legitimate to take a look at 'em. The evolution of Jim Jones from street minister to megalomaniacal sociopath is instructive here. So is the story of Marcus Garvey and, I suspect, the cult of Barack Obama. The point is that the psychology of religion has universalities as plus as many flavors as there are cultures. |
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We will know the time of this event plainly, because it is stated by the prophet in that great religious text, 'The life of Brian' :
"There shall in that time be rumors of things going astray, erm, and there shall be a great confusion as to where things really are, and nobody will really know where lieth those little things with the sort of raffia-work base, that has an attachment. At that time, a friend shall lose his friend's hammer, and the young shall not know where lieth the things possessed by their fathers that their fathers put there only just the night before, about eight O'clock." ![]() Seriously, thanks for the religious/spiritual post Steven. I had the wonderful experience of being baptised catholic, and then going to a Jewish school for many years. So I had to find my own truth from an early age, as the prescribed views had serious logical contradictions to one another being entirely and completely right. I enjoyed learning the teachings and parables of the New Testament which we studied without religious tutors, just normal class teachers. and was fortunate not to have any priests shoving dogma down my throat (where does it mention priests and archbishops in the NT btw??) , whilst at the same time being surrounded by Jewish people who told me authoritatively that Jesus was not the Messiah (no, he wasn't a naughty boy either...). So it got me trying to figure things out for myself. I believe a truth is a truth wherever you find it. 'You' being the operative word, but some truths seem to stand up better than others. The idea/concept of Love in the NT seems to stand a lot of bashing. But this concept is repeated elsewhere of course...so that's a good sign. But as for 'the details', they seem to differ from religion to religion. As for a second coming... Just as an appearance of a giant spaceship would be too easy or even some new messianic figure would be too easy, I think that an eternity living in Heaven because I follow a religious text on someone's say so would be too easy. What would we all do? Crosswords and Sudoku ? Maybe I'd get a chance to read every post on Avalon for once.... ![]() If there is a God, it would seem a little unfair to base my entry into an eternity-spanning club on the need to follow any kind of dogma. Where is the free choice in that? Where is the love? Well, that's how I feel inside. Love is the key...and life is tough and the sooner we support each other with love...the easier this tough life will become. Peace n love K |
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