Consciousness, Christian Theology, and the Revelation of John

[waitinginthewings]

Originally Posted by 14 Chakras

Interesting question ~

In this case, I said: "helps us call up higher" by sharing non-dualistic experiences we receive, such as the one that 4Q529 shared, as they continually add to the puzzle of Truth.

When someone has a non-dualistic experience, and they share it, and then we hear of many other people's as well, we can start to put the puzzle together in terms of higher Truths. Most people, many people, have non-dualistic experiences, and when we share, we all learn a bit, we all come up higher. After that it all comes to interpretation which varies widely and generally ends up reinforcing a different 'belief' system in each one of us, but the Truth is beyond thought, beyond belief. So ideally, we each continue to seek and find non-dualistic experiences and in that way we do not form beliefs, rather we surrender to Truth.


If this "helps us all come up higher" has been used in other posts, it is because I believe it is now time for humanity to awaken to their own Divine nature and to the reality that God lives inside of us and provides perfectly for us, including our protection, fulfillment of needs, and highest inspiration when we connect to the Divine within us. However, it is not 1 or 2 people that need to move higher in consciousness now. It is all people. Earth is Ascending and each person must make shifts in their consciousness into the more interconnected empowered reality in order to make the shift.

So us communing here, discussing, being open to higher Truth's helps the whole as we shift our consciousness, we help shift Earth's collective consciousness which is what needs to happen Now.

~ Espavo ~ (<Lemurian for: Thank you for taking your Power)

Thank you for your explaination.......in my own terminology I would say, we all need to raise our vibration. Through meditation & paying attention to our ego mind, living an ethetical life, right livelihood, developing kindness & compassion towards ourselves & others is a good place to begin. There are no free rides, we have to do the work on ourselves to raise our vibration.

[kriya]

Originally Posted by Gnosis5

I met Yogananda in his disembodied state and personally I would rate Babaji higher then him. Yogananda's autobiography was a milestone for me in stepping outside the confines of my Christian indoctrination and moving toward a more understandable and practicable spiritual technology. However, when I connected with him in his disembodied state I found him personally somewhat manipulative and he left me in a bit of a huff (to say the least).

Please clarify this statement. What happened exactly? If you were manipulated you didn't meet Yogananda, as God conscious beings are not negative. They are just seeking your liberation.

Love,

Kriya

[Steven]

There are so many interpretation of the apocalypse, many are interesting and valid.

I remember a brasilian theologian, who was very down to Earth with his approach. That is why I always liked him. First, he remembered the historical context in which these texts were written. The very first followers of Christ were slain. But at the same time, the events around Christ were so strong in the people's consciousness that the movement was increasing. The letters were written to the first twelve most important group of christian. They were written in a symbolical middle eastern way to be only decoded by the first christian initiate and avoid roman persecution. The beast was an analogy to the roman empire and the lady, to the church.

According to this theologian, these messages were not talking about our time, but rather the evolution and persecution time of the first churches. The adoption of chritianity by the roman empire, the corruption of the faith by foreign influence, the schisms and the final transformation (liberation) of Christianity.


On the other hand, I think the white European Elite of our world (Vatican, City of London, Washington DC) are taking this text integrally. They also might have change it to fit their plan for humanity. And use their technological "toys" to create events that fit the description of the text, following it like a script.

Namaste, Steven

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by K626

There are constantly changing views of 'truth' and versions of 'truth', it is alivea and moving as we are alive and moving. There is no one source which is dominant or central, we effect the source as the source changes us. Our very loose grip on reality often means a harder and more narrow search for some kind of truth. It's a waste of time.

Right, I had to start somewhere and focus even with the perception that I was narrowing myself, but for the purpose of future expansion. It is paying off in that I am not as dogmatic and fundamental and cultist as I once was. If I had chosen the wrong path I would be even more entrenched in "my way or the highway" maintenance of status and control societies.

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by kriya

Please clarify this statement. What happened exactly? If you were manipulated you didn't meet Yogananda, as God conscious beings are not negative. They are just seeking your liberation.

Love,

Kriya

You cannot make me change my reality with forceful statements and thus I have a "no response" to your request for clarification.

[K626]

Originally Posted by Gnosis5

Right, I had to start somewhere and focus even with the perception that I was narrowing myself, but for the purpose of future expansion. It is paying off in that I am not as dogmatic and fundamental and cultist as I once was. If I had chosen the wrong path I would be even more entrenched in "my way or the highway" maintenance of status and control societies.

The simplest thing I can say is the old cliche: Follow your own path. LOOK for the signs. Once you start to synchronise with your phase self (the one that moves in and out of time and place) it will automatically start to SHOW/DIRECT you into a kind of timelessness. Once you feel timelessness/unplaceness it will start to trigger moments when you are out and about going about your normal business (whenever you feel drawn to someone or something in that moment - check it out ALWAYS. MMagiccal stuff. Good luck with it. Btw it really is ALL LIGHT.

K.

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by waitinginthewings

Thank you for your explaination.......in my own terminology I would say, we all need to raise our vibration. Through meditation & paying attention to our ego mind, living an ethetical life, right livelihood, developing kindness & compassion towards ourselves & others is a good place to begin. There are no free rides, we have to do the work on ourselves to raise our vibration.

Yes, yes, yes, and I am changing mine more than I am concerned about making others change. I am also working on not maligning someone else's senior stable reality -- that would be spiritual immaturity on my part, an inability to see the whole trek of spiritual development. I apologize that I offended anyone with a hot headed remark.

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by K626

The simplest thing I can say is the old cliche: Follow your own path. LOOK for the signs. Once you start to synchronise with your phase self (the one that moves in and out of time and place) it will automatically start to SHOW/DIRECT you into a kind of timelessness. Once you feel timelessness/unplaceness it will start to trigger moments when you are out and about going about your normal business (whenever you feel drawn to someone or something in that moment - check it out ALWAYS. MMagiccal stuff. Good luck with it. Btw it really is ALL LIGHT.

K.

Yes, I am starting to suspect that any spiritual "gangsters" that loom large over me now are probably merely 1% of a multi-universal society of beings.

[K626]

Originally Posted by Gnosis5

Yes, I am starting to suspect that any spiritual "gangsters" that loom large over me now are probably merely 1% of a multi-universal society of beings.

Starting to become aware will draw your guides to you. Whatever it takes and whatever the cost everyone who calls will be answered. From the beginning it was understood that there would be no end.

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by K626

Starting to become aware will draw your guides to you. Whatever it takes and whatever the cost everyone who calls will be answered. From the beginning it was understood that there would be no end.

May all the ends meet.

[THE eXchanger]

Originally Posted by Gnosis5

May all the ends meet.

indeed, may they all meet

always remember...

"allow only, those things,
that are in 100% alignment,
with your missions, your purposes, and, your tasks"
susan~the eXchanger

saves a lot of B.S,

does it NOT madam gnosis5 ?

[kriya]

Originally Posted by Gnosis5

You cannot make me change my reality with forceful statements and thus I have a "no response" to your request for clarification.

A thousand apologies to you if I sounded forceful, that was not my intention. but as you can see from my avatar, Yogananda is my Guru and it upsets me to think that you may have had a bad experience which you are attributing to him.

After all this is a public forum and I have a duty to defend his name.

Your comment about Babaji i think is right. He is on a par with Jesus. Great realised souls.

Sorry if i offended you. But that comment struck my heart!

Love,

Kriya

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