Questions for the 'Healers' - Page 2

Shairia · 12-22-2009, 03:24 AM

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I don't understand why 'healers' can't heal in a hospital.

Speaking for myself, I don't find hospitals condusive to healing. Having experienced both types of treatments (traditional medicine and holistic treatments) I prefer my home environment to any institutional setting. I don't run the risk of picking up antibiotic resistant bacterial infections at home and being exposed to other's illnesses.

Healing requires a desire to get well, which requires trust in the person treating you. From experience I find most MDs don't have the time to devote to adequate diagnosis and treatment and are too trusting of what is taught in Medical Schools.

Zeddo · 12-22-2009, 03:30 AM

removed by me.....pearls before swine.....
Z

Scarab · 12-22-2009, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by eXchanger

We have chosen to NOT respond to your question,
nor, to answer, the other 3 out of 5 questions

You have chosen to remove the answer you gave. Be honest.

Scarab · 12-22-2009, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by eXchanger

As to why he did it, we don't have a clue

Do you think he took time out from WWII to pioneer the effort because he was worried about people with skin rashes?

Another 'healer' here said:

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440 hz, Takes it away, clears the Rash, Hot skin....

Scarab · 12-22-2009, 03:47 AM

@zeddo

I assume you took photos of the miracle tumor removal? Hit the talk show circuit, got written up in a local paper?

Scarab · 12-22-2009, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by eXchanger

we have chosen NOT to repond to this thread

Will the healing claims stop now too?

THE eXchanger · 12-22-2009, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Scarab

You have chosen to remove the answer you gave. Be honest.

We have chosen to remove our responses to 2 of your 5 questions...
after seeing how, you have treated NOT only us, but, other members
who were lured here, to the title of the post "Questions for the 'Healers'"

your attitude, in our opinion - to our responses/as, well, as others responses
is, totally unexpectable - to us,
and, as, you can see, the others, removed their comments too !!!

THE eXchanger · 12-22-2009, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Scarab

Will the healing claims stop now too?

we did NOT make any healing claims !

THE eXchanger · 12-22-2009, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Scarab

You have chosen to remove the answer you gave. Be honest.

Yes, we did choose to remove - our postings, from your thread

Scarab · 12-22-2009, 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by eXchanger

we did NOT make any healing claims !

Yes, you did.

You said you've taken at least 22 high level courses and you are currently working on editing your client testimonials that endorsed your healing abilities.

(paraphrasing because now you've removed the post)
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Oops. Found it

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i will have to count, how many courses, etc.,
that i have taken, once, there was over 22 of them
most at master/or teacher levels
(none from diploma mills)

~although in the work i do, i do NOT make claims
instead, i do 'the job' for as, long as it takes to accomplish it

~i am in the process of editing a lot of testimonals
(most, are outside, of what the law says, you can say)

~yes, some people did have medical proof

End of addition

Who is 'we'. Do you have a mouse in your pocket?

no caste · 12-22-2009, 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Scarab

1. Can you go into a hospital and heal the sick? Do you? If not, how come?
2. Has anyone ever turned down a 'healing' request?
3. What is your success rate? Is it verifiable? Can anyone here provide a doctor's independent verification of their healing abilities? Are their specific diseases you can cure and others you can't? Will you list them?
4. Someone said: Are you aware that Heinrich Himmler was the chief proponent of changing the concert pitch to A440? How does this relate to healing?
5. If you can heal, can you control nature in other ways also? In what ways and to what extent?

I'm not a healer either.

1. Hospitals are accustomed to scalpels and pharmaceuticals.
2. Yes.
3. There is one boy - maybe he's a man now - who was/is a miracle healer, verifiably, as far as I know. I've read his book:

It would have to do with remote viewing, energy patterns, synergies, a lot of stuff that, say, James Casbolt would talk about, except not weaponized, naturally.

4. Yes. I've read about that Goebbels, Himmler, One World Government, maybe WHO connection, based on Nazi science.

E.g. NWO is responsible for concert pitch A-440hz
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread322096/pg2
Basically 432 is in tune with the natural pattern that all life adheres too. If you could hear a plant grow, or a human embryo, and measure its pitch it would be at 432HZ. But the Goebbels fan club knew that keeping things at 440hz then all people would be subjected to "interference patterns". And you get a world full of attention deficit disorder.

5. -

THE eXchanger · 12-22-2009, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Wormhole

I see this is a conversation between two others that I have no prior knowledge of, I am respectfully nodding a hello to you both and bowing out of the discourse. I send you both (Scarab and Susan) love and hope that the civility or conversation in the future will find a higher understanding. Peace be with you, Worm

and, that is precisely, why-we made the choice, to NOT leave our responses here !!!

Zeddo · 12-22-2009, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Scarab

@zeddo

I assume you took photos of the miracle tumor removal? Hit the talk show circuit, got written up in a local paper?

you know what they say about "assume"? makes an ass out of u and me......more you than me however.

Scarab · 12-22-2009, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeddo

you know what they say about "assume"? makes an ass out of u and me......more you than me however.

You could have just said 'no'. But that's fine. I understand.

THE eXchanger · 12-22-2009, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeddo

you know what they say about "assume"?
makes an ass out of u and me......
more you than me however.

to Zeddo

Scarab · 12-22-2009, 04:19 AM

Just to make it clear.

This isn't about 'negative energy' or exposing anyone or anything.

I just think that if someone makes a claim, it should be honest and they should be able to back it up.

I didn't intend for this thread to become drama.

mntruthseeker · 12-22-2009, 06:34 AM

Yes healing can be done long distance and I have proof of that.

I have so many cases that it would take too long to write.

Anyone that thinks it can' t be done has much to learn

BTW Soffegio music healed me quite well..........I'm quite proud of the results

Do you suppose I am a witch ?

A person doesnt have to have first hand knowledge that a healing is going to be done.............you need their name, city and state.

YES you can heal long distance.

Scarab · 12-22-2009, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by mntruthseeker

Yes healing can be done long distance and I have proof of that.

I have so many cases that it would take too long to write.

Anyone that thinks it can' t be done has much to learn

BTW Soffegio music healed me quite well..........I'm quite proud of the results

Do you suppose I am a witch ?

A person doesnt have to have first hand knowledge that a healing is going to be done.............you need their name, city and state.

YES you can heal long distance.

Great. Then you'll tackle this for me.

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Originally Posted by Scarab

Get going on this list please.

http://www.stjude.org

Once you're all done with that, I'll give you some more.

How long will it take you to finish?

Check back and let us know how you're progressing while we're waiting for more answers here.

raulduke · 12-22-2009, 10:30 AM

Scarab, this seems to be a topic of great interest to you. Do you have some personal experiences with healers?

Let me preface what follows by saying I am not a healer in the sence that you are refering to, and I have little experience with healers.

From what I have gathered from people on these kinda boards though, the problem you are having is a result of this statement:

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Originally Posted by Scarab

People who put their lives in your hands deserve to know.

I don't think any healers here would ever tell anyone in need of healing that they can "put their lives in [my] hands." This red herring is why i believe your premise to be basically invalid, no one is saying that here, though if they were, I would agree with you on some levels.

They are simply trying to comfort as far as I can tell. I think u seem to think that they are claiming they can intstantly heal a broken leg or something like that. I see the healing thing in all aspects the way Anchor explained (to varying degrees) which is the sence that I am a healer as I do try to do what I can to comfort others when I see that they are hurting.

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Originally Posted by Anchor

We are all healers. You are too. The difference is you may not see it the way I do. When you comfort a hurt child you are healing. The spirit of love is moving through you and you are healing. No science, no promises, just love.

A..

You must be able to understand this?

It's more emotional than physical, although from what I understand (and of course I could be wrong) the physical will often follow the emotional.

rhythm · 12-22-2009, 11:51 AM

hey Scarab can i tickle your
tummy ..
your a sweet little beetle ...

im sure under that hard shell

your just an old softee ..

namaste rhythmmm xxx

Karen · 12-22-2009, 12:11 PM

Call it what you want.

I gave a list of ailments privately to Tango.

I had a pain in my shoulder and a popping in my neck - for over a year.
Chiropracter and massage did not help.
Me poking around at it made it considerably worse.
Now, after a few weeks it is 90% better and not constantly nagging me with pain and popping.

I have a right knee that has given me trouble for 25 or so years.
Going up and down stairs inflames the knee and certain movements cause stabs of pain, and disturbs my sleep. That was 80% better, but trying to walk the stairs normally decreased that to 70%.

I am sensitive to EMF from computers and phones - face and ears turn bright red. I'd say that is now reduced by about 50% - that one is being the most stubborn to resolve.

But sometime ago I was having horrible stomach aches and a Gastro Intestinal bleed for over one month. The whole team was called into an emergency action and the whole forum into a Love Boost. The tummy quickly resolved these serious problems and now only gives me minor disturbances from time to time.

I cannot call it a placebo effect because I haven't gotten help from any therapies or supplements or anything else I thought would help and that cost me a great deal of money. Now here I have had all this help for free, Pay it Forward style, from the loving people here at Avalon.

Many thanks to the healers and all who sent love and caring!

Many Blessing to All,
Karen

lightblue · 12-22-2009, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by eXchanger View Post
we have chosen NOT to repond to this thread

i wonder - who's WE in this comment?

the subject SCARAB brings up (re tuning/ frequencies) is very very interesting. would like to know more of what you know

bw

Scarab · 12-22-2009, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by raulduke

Scarab, this seems to be a topic of great interest to you. Do you have some personal experiences with healers?

Let me preface what follows by saying I am not a healer in the sence that you are refering to, and I have little experience with healers.

From what I have gathered from people on these kinda boards though, the problem you are having is a result of this statement:

I don't think any healers here would ever tell anyone in need of healing that they can "put their lives in [my] hands." This red herring is why i believe your premise to be basically invalid, no one is saying that here, though if they were, I would agree with you on some levels.

They are simply trying to comfort as far as I can tell. I think u seem to think that they are claiming they can intstantly heal a broken leg or something like that. I see the healing thing in all aspects the way Anchor explained (to varying degrees) which is the sence that I am a healer as I do try to do what I can to comfort others when I see that they are hurting.

You must be able to understand this?

It's more emotional than physical, although from what I understand (and of course I could be wrong) the physical will often follow the emotional.

Comforting the sick and healing the sick are two different things. If certain members here offered to 'comfort' those who aren't well, that would be honest.

BUT. Some people here are making healing claims which are dubious.

Others have set up shop and are charging money to 'heal' the sick. It's a cruel fraud and I think it needs to end.

Scarab · 12-22-2009, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by rhythm

hey Scarab can i tickle your
tummy ..
your a sweet little beetle ...

im sure under that hard shell

your just an old softee ..

namaste rhythmmm xxx

Thanks. Some people I know would agree with you. Others wouldn't.

I have a sense of humor too.

Northern Boy · 12-22-2009, 04:08 PM

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I just think that if someone makes a claim, it should be honest and they should be able to back it up

Scarab I find it strange that you would post some thing like this after what you Claimed in this thread about myself

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=18470

I believe this was the post I`m referring to

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I am contributing. You don't trust me. You will NOT believe me if I tell you. Yet, you ought to know.

It isn't easy to find out who owns it because it isn't in their best interest for you to know. However, it is public record if you know where to look.

__________________

When I asked for clarification as to why or what gave you reason to think there was am issue of mistrust between you and I you never gave a reason

So you made a claim and didn`t back it up but then attack another member over the same thing . I never attacked your non response to my request out of respect for your decision to do what you wished . That being the case here do you not think others should enjoy that same respect from you ? Maybe an apology to Susan for your behavior might be in order..............but I`ll leave that to your discretion

12-22-2009, 03:24 AM	#26
Shairia Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: On this beautiful planet Posts: 75	Re: Questions for the 'Healers' PHP Code: `I don't understand why 'healers' can't heal in a hospital.` Speaking for myself, I don't find hospitals condusive to healing. Having experienced both types of treatments (traditional medicine and holistic treatments) I prefer my home environment to any institutional setting. I don't run the risk of picking up antibiotic resistant bacterial infections at home and being exposed to other's illnesses. Healing requires a desire to get well, which requires trust in the person treating you. From experience I find most MDs don't have the time to devote to adequate diagnosis and treatment and are too trusting of what is taught in Medical Schools.

12-22-2009, 03:30 AM	#27
Zeddo Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 694	Re: Questions for the 'Healers' removed by me.....pearls before swine..... Z

12-22-2009, 03:47 AM	#30
Scarab Banned Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 221	Re: Questions for the 'Healers' @zeddo I assume you took photos of the miracle tumor removal? Hit the talk show circuit, got written up in a local paper?

12-22-2009, 04:19 AM	#41
Scarab Banned Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 221	Re: Questions for the 'Healers' Just to make it clear. This isn't about 'negative energy' or exposing anyone or anything. I just think that if someone makes a claim, it should be honest and they should be able to back it up. I didn't intend for this thread to become drama.

12-22-2009, 06:34 AM	#42
mntruthseeker Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,482	Re: Questions for the 'Healers' Yes healing can be done long distance and I have proof of that. I have so many cases that it would take too long to write. Anyone that thinks it can' t be done has much to learn BTW Soffegio music healed me quite well..........I'm quite proud of the results Do you suppose I am a witch ? A person doesnt have to have first hand knowledge that a healing is going to be done.............you need their name, city and state. YES you can heal long distance.

12-22-2009, 11:51 AM	#45
rhythm Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: devon england Posts: 1,905	Re: Questions for the 'Healers' hey Scarab can i tickle your tummy .. your a sweet little beetle ... im sure under that hard shell your just an old softee .. namaste rhythmmm xxx

12-22-2009, 12:11 PM	#46
Karen Project Avalon Organizer Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NE Oregon boondocks, USA Posts: 1,767	Re: Questions for the 'Healers' Call it what you want. I gave a list of ailments privately to Tango. I had a pain in my shoulder and a popping in my neck - for over a year. Chiropracter and massage did not help. Me poking around at it made it considerably worse. Now, after a few weeks it is 90% better and not constantly nagging me with pain and popping. I have a right knee that has given me trouble for 25 or so years. Going up and down stairs inflames the knee and certain movements cause stabs of pain, and disturbs my sleep. That was 80% better, but trying to walk the stairs normally decreased that to 70%. I am sensitive to EMF from computers and phones - face and ears turn bright red. I'd say that is now reduced by about 50% - that one is being the most stubborn to resolve. But sometime ago I was having horrible stomach aches and a Gastro Intestinal bleed for over one month. The whole team was called into an emergency action and the whole forum into a Love Boost. The tummy quickly resolved these serious problems and now only gives me minor disturbances from time to time. I cannot call it a placebo effect because I haven't gotten help from any therapies or supplements or anything else I thought would help and that cost me a great deal of money. Now here I have had all this help for free, Pay it Forward style, from the loving people here at Avalon. Many thanks to the healers and all who sent love and caring! Many Blessing to All, Karen Last edited by Karen; 12-22-2009 at 12:41 PM.