Just been told not very nicely by husband to stop reading this stuff. - Page 2

JohnWdoe · 09-14-2008, 09:32 AM

Lets look at it from his standpoint, he is maybe worried about you? or he is just full of his own glout? in the polite way.

Ask him what makes you think this and try and make him understand that yes we have alot of loonies but that is mostly fear mongering. Tell him you are still yourself just open to ideas that possibly can happen.

Tell him how you feel and ask him to tell you how he feels when hearing it, sometimes the words itself "New World Order" "Eugenics" "WW3" "First Contact" can really seem to wash us away without even getting the point across (thats why we are here in the first place to explain this puzzle together!)

Be aware of what hits and sticks to you sometimes it can lead to alot of problems but if your true at heart and really believe in yourself it will always come across genuine.

Hope everything works out for ya!

*jeeze i use the word hope alot :P

atama · 09-14-2008, 10:13 AM

laugh at your husband for me.

crazycharlie · 09-14-2008, 10:16 AM

ok where to start,, my girlfriend/commonlaw wife of 28 years had a sweat/peyote
vision almost 40 years ago that told her we were controlled by unseen/alien
forces and she has felt/believed that ever since. Problem is she thinks there is
nothing we can do about it all.And she reads zip and does nothing about it. She leaves the TV on 24/7 and very seldom will listen to any news/info i come in with.
. I tell her she is not invited to my cave when the time comes
and when the time comes I'll be gone. The one thing I'm really starting to get is
with so many people on the Big Blue Marble, we are all on many different paths &
some of us cross when were not really on the same path at all ..?
I feel for you all who are with partners not really looking at the reality of the Matrix
and what appears to be soon coming our way. ( a hurricane of change )-
I love that video I found thru this forum of Peggy Kane ( the 12 part interview)
towards the end she says some of us just don't think things are right here and
thru hell and high water are gonna find out the truth ! ( but Oh GOD that girl is a good cook ! )

Connecting with Sauce · 09-14-2008, 10:25 AM

Hello All,

This thread is pretty interesting...

I'm an engineer/physist who got woken up pretty quickly in the last year or so. Here is my time history...

2006 I was dealing with a work project and fiancee who was ill. I had Repetive strain injury in my arms/hands and could only drive ~15 mins... I was grinding to a halt.
2007 Fiancee left for Greece
Got signed off work for 9 months eventually in which I did
> Tantra awakening course (school of awakening), crystals, healing, reiki, yoga, Tia Chi, lost 20kg, biodance, you name it I had a ball then I slowly returned to work in a large automotive company in Essex

and slowly tried to continue my expansion... mediation kundalini balancing etc but... they want you to work! Work is bad and locks you in with stress etc

I find it so difficult to deal with the mainly male engineers as they are all like this ladies husband. I would have been the same 2 years ago to someone like me wearing crystals and doing Tia Chi in the office

but I've gone throught the I don't give a Sh*t stage

I have been on an accelerated journey. My Mum is like me and reads this stuff too as I've let her read my Nexus' and have loads of DVD's on this stuff too.

the first half of this year we struggled with my Dad's illness and I did so much research for lung and brain cancers but unfortunately it was a lost battle but I did reiki and massage etc with my Dad which had I not gone throught the above awakening I would have been destroyed emotionally... I miss my Dad alot but know he is there in another dimension. If he was still here he would also be like this ladies husband

so maybe it was his time...

I just know we are all on a journey and I now know so much about nutrition, healing, immune system function, energy, how the brain chemistry works (pineal gland thread is a must

and other things I will share when I can

everytheing is falling into place...

I want to wake everyone up as I'm recently woken... but I realise I have my kundalini cleared to some extent with the tantric awakening which means I'm not locked in my Root Chakra like most in fear/money/etc.

ps most of my friends think I'm a depressing loon but I have a smile on my face when I say the 'end is nigher'

and "hold this crystal, it is for..."

09-14-2008, 12:50 PM

I asked him tonight at dinner the question about whether he thought 9/11 was an inside job. He said he believed it was the terrorists like the media said, not an inside job. Then I said well who do you think killed JFK and he stated that Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK and that was that......Mmmm, enough said I give up.

lock'N'load · 09-14-2008, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuza

I asked him tonight at dinner the question about whether he thought 9/11 was an inside job. He said he believed it was the terrorists like the media said, not an inside job. Then I said well who do you think killed JFK and he stated that Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK and that was that......Mmmm, enough said I give up.

This reminds me exactly how my mum responded when i mentioned 9/11 being an inside job.

I'm a very persistent little bugger, so i got my clip board and printed out a fully detailed report with diagrams and pictures on the pentagon and outlined every single bit of evidence that did not coincide with the official story.

I was actually quite proud of my work because i was young at the time and i felt that i was so special for finding holes in the governments plans

So do that, get him interested. Dont confront him with specualtion, confront him with indisputible facts. And in this line of research there are many!

Have fun, my heart is with ya

Anchor · 09-14-2008, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lock'N'load

Before enlightening anyone to the wonderfull state of affairs it is imperative that they are :

A. Not afraid to die.
B. Comfortable with their spirituality.
c. Open to information that is deemed 'outside the box'

I really feel for you.

However, dont you think that if A B and C are already achieved then its a strong likelihood that they are already awakened?

To start the awakening process with anyone, you have to sow seeds, then be patient.

If your inner guidence tells you NOT to do it, then dont. Otherwise feel free, just sprinkle those seeds

A..

arcora · 09-14-2008, 03:05 PM

One has to overcome another's fears before they can persuade.

My wife is also concerned. She has two fears.

One is that I will become too engrossed in research to fulfill my mundane duties.
Two is that I will change so much that I will not be the same man she married.

We have spoken about this. She has always admired my spiritual side as well as my ability to 'think outside the box'. That helps alot.

I reassured her that her fears were unfounded and she has accepted the arrangement.

As to telling others about your own non-mainstream beliefs. A similar understanding must be invoked. One must understand the reason people choose to believe in the official 9/11 story etc.

Most people believe the official story because they cannot conceive of a world in which the alternative could be true. They need to have faith in our leaders and do not want to examine a possible reality where the PTB could perpetrate such dastardly deeds.

In order to persuade these people, you must first lead them to understand that the PTB do not really have their best interests at heart. Once people know that the PTB are not the kind, wise leaders that we hope, they will come to understand truths that are newly self-evident.

For example. My wife listens to me when I tell her about things like 9/11, the NWO etc. She will listen, nod politely and seem to agree - but I know that she isn't sure. I have taken to asking her questions which will make her think about the motives of the PTB.

Yesterday I mentioned flouride in the water. I asked her why the government would put poison in the water because it is good for our teeth. I pointed out that flouride was toxic to the brain and used as an insecticide. I also asked her why, if they were concerned about our health, wouldn't they put vitamin C, magnesium or any other more beneficial nutrient in the water.

This made her think. Slowly she is coming around.

TranceAm · 09-14-2008, 03:19 PM

"I also asked her why, if they were concerned about our health, wouldn't they put vitamin C, magnesium or any other more beneficial nutrient in the water."

THAT nailed the coffin shut.

lock'N'load · 09-14-2008, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anchor

I really feel for you.

However, dont you think that if A B and C are already achieved then its a strong likelihood that they are already awakened?

To start the awakening process with anyone, you have to sow seeds, then be patient.

If your inner guidence tells you NOT to do it, then dont. Otherwise feel free, just sprinkle those seeds

A..

I remember when i first embarked upon my spiritual journey it was all i could think about. Morning noon and night id sit at my computer and absorb the absolute mine of information that i felt so privlidged to have access to.
I was about 11 years old at the time.

By the time i was 15 i started to broden my search for truth into the outside world, i started researching all about the worlds governments and how they have enslaved the people down through the centuries through means of heirachial systems. Thats when it hit me, it hit me that the world i was living in was much more terrible then i had ever imagined. It took me quite some time to adjust.

And that was after getting a pretty good grasp on my spirituality and my imortality. I could only imagine the ramifications this kind of knowledge would have on someone who is ignorant of their true spiritual essence.

Connecting with Sauce · 09-14-2008, 08:57 PM

For some movies that may help awaken some people gently

this is a movie about a Google feature called google trends... Lying media

http://video.google.co.uk/videosearc...b=0&aq=-1&oq=#

A good link for 9/11
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/thermite.htm

Recently I bought 90+ conspiracy (truth) DVD's from an ebay seller... before I realised most were available on google movies. I've done nothing but watch them avidily

What I do is lend them to people who I think will find them amazing. I am amazed at how people are SO slow to add 2 and 2. We have our work cut out I tell you

9/11 confronting the evidence
http://video.google.co.uk/videosearc...ce&hl=en&emb=0

Loose change Final Cut are great movies... More a movie
http://video.google.co.uk/videosearc...ut&hl=en&emb=1

This site has virtually every movie imaginable in specific categories:
http://www.maya12-21-2012.com/

I wish the day had more hous in it

so I could watch these all!

Avid · 09-15-2008, 11:48 AM

I'm afraid I'm in OP's position, told by my science-based partner of many years he thinks I talk absolute nonsense - even when I show proof.
He actually stated he had lost all respect for me as I have no credibility left

He's working in alternate energy and I sent him links to a lot of useful sites, but I guess as he didn't think of it first I have annoyed him.
He's been warned off by the great poobah research PTB but won't listen to them.
I want him to be very careful, to no avail.
Our house has been buzzed by black planes.
He doesn't even believe chemtrails exist, or what HAARP is really used for - even when I bought him a book on what HAARP is (he flicked through it and threw it on the table - "Pah"), and he is heavily into EMF!
It has now got to the point where we hardly speak.
I feel so alone. My parents think I'm terribly eccentric.
My son doesn't want to know as he has a young child.
Perhaps I should go and watch a few episodes of 'Coronation Street' to numb my mind.

or back to my gardening...

arcora · 09-15-2008, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avid

I'm afraid I'm in OP's position, told by my science-based partner of many years he thinks I talk absolute nonsense - even when I show proof.
He actually stated he had lost all respect for me as I have no credibility left

He's working in alternate energy and I sent him links to a lot of useful sites, but I guess as he didn't think of it first I have annoyed him.
He's been warned off by the great poobah research PTB but won't listen to them.
I want him to be very careful, to no avail.
Our house has been buzzed by black planes.
He doesn't even believe chemtrails exist, or what HAARP is really used for - even when I bought him a book on what HAARP is (he flicked through it and threw it on the table - "Pah"), and he is heavily into EMF!
It has now got to the point where we hardly speak.
I feel so alone. My parents think I'm terribly eccentric.
My son doesn't want to know as he has a young child.
Perhaps I should go and watch a few episodes of 'Coronation Street' to numb my mind.

or back to my gardening...

My personal view is that Scientists have a peculiar syndrome of the ego something like..."If a non Scientist believes something that I'm not aware of, it doesn't exist or can't be true."

Lythocrist · 09-15-2008, 03:22 PM

I am only 20 years old... I have only one friend I can talk to about this stuff without getting "You're nuts." or the simple arrogant look of a skeptical knower.

What I mean by "skeptical knower" Is...The people who would find it very interesting if all this 'was' true, but they 'KNOW' it is not, and are going to live their lives as if it is not true, until the government hand feeds them the right information to say "Hey, the world is not run by who you think it is...When there's smoke there's fire, and the fire has gotten so big everyone is going to get burned."

There's an age old saying...If it already works fine, don't try and change/fix it.

Over the next few days I will be taking a greater part in The Ground Crew, and doing what I can to aid. I have many things to say, but will do my best to keep posts pertaining to the topics in the thread they are posted on.

09-15-2008, 03:36 PM

I'm lucky, I guess. My partner of three years thinks Project Avalon and ATS ( I'm there a lot too ) is a bunch of paranoid weirdos, but..he respects intelligent arguments.

It works out well for us, really. I'm inclinced to be rather emotional and sometimes don't think things through, logically. He, on the other hand, is very logical and can look at things more coldly then I can. He's a natural sceptic which fits well with my personality.

A few months back there was a post on ATS which really effected me. I felt the OP was telling the truth of his experience, and it frightened me. This was the only time that my partner ever got angry about ATS - he was angry that the woman he loved was frightened.

He is open to to the themes that are discussed here and on ATS - but he is turned off by a lot of the drivel. I try hard to only present things to him which are very well thought out and presented.

I've actually got him to concede that 911 could not possibly have happened the way " they " say it did, and that's a big step.

Bigfatfurrytexan · 09-15-2008, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan

Hi, Folks:

This is an interesting and valuable thread.

Kerry and I get a LOT of e-mails from people who have stumbled into conflict with friends and family over the information we present and discuss.

What often helps is to remember/ realize that apparent aggression may actually be a symptom of fear (conscious or unconscious). Your husband/ wife who appears to be uncharacteristically unkind and insensitive may simply be terrified.

The remedy - sometimes - is to understand that they are afraid and to make allowances. Fighting and arguing over the 'facts' usually won't resolve anything.

A hug might - as also might listening to their real concerns.

Very best to all - Bill

I like to have scientific papers handy. Since many in modern times ascribe to the scientific cult, showing them some "holy papers" that state that it isn't wierd or supernatural can help allay fears.

Bigfatfurrytexan · 09-15-2008, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avid

I'm afraid I'm in OP's position, told by my science-based partner of many years he thinks I talk absolute nonsense - even when I show proof.
He actually stated he had lost all respect for me as I have no credibility left

He's working in alternate energy and I sent him links to a lot of useful sites, but I guess as he didn't think of it first I have annoyed him.
He's been warned off by the great poobah research PTB but won't listen to them.
I want him to be very careful, to no avail.
Our house has been buzzed by black planes.
He doesn't even believe chemtrails exist, or what HAARP is really used for - even when I bought him a book on what HAARP is (he flicked through it and threw it on the table - "Pah"), and he is heavily into EMF!
It has now got to the point where we hardly speak.
I feel so alone. My parents think I'm terribly eccentric.
My son doesn't want to know as he has a young child.
Perhaps I should go and watch a few episodes of 'Coronation Street' to numb my mind.

or back to my gardening...

You might ask him to explain why this antenna array shows Cerenkov radiation:

Myra · 09-15-2008, 06:46 PM

[QUOTE=lock'N'load;] See will he show the same enthusiasm when you tell him to stop watching tv

Hahaha THAT would be interesting!

Avid · 09-15-2008, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigfatfurrytexan

You might ask him to explain why this antenna array shows Cerenkov radiation:

I have just forwarded this to him at work thanks, as he will not listen to me now at home - I asked him to look at this image and he's too 'tired' to be bothered at the moment here (but I bet at 7.00am he'll view this asap in his office....). Thank you bigfatfurry - er - chap (whatever made you pick such a mad name??? _ ahhh eccentricity strikes again).

I'm thinking of changing my signature to:
"Excuse me. Are you reading that newspaper you're sitting on?"

Bigfatfurrytexan · 09-15-2008, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avid

I have just forwarded this to him at work thanks, as he will not listen to me now at home - I asked him to look at this image and he's too 'tired' to be bothered at the moment here (but I bet at 7.00am he'll view this asap in his office....). Thank you bigfatfurry - er - chap (whatever made you pick such a mad name??? _ ahhh eccentricity strikes again).

I'm thinking of changing my signature to:
"Excuse me. Are you reading that newspaper you're sitting on?"

I am a 6'2", 375lb former all state football player here in Texas. And my hair is fairly long (mid back, until the end of the week when it gets cut).

While i was working as an operations manager in a call center up in laramie, wy one of the trainers was overheard by myself saying, "Now where did that big, fat, furry texan go?" while he was needing a signature on a write up. I thought it was funny, and so i kept it for internet use.

Avid · 09-15-2008, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigfatfurrytexan

I am a 6'2", 375lb former all state football player here in Texas. And my hair is fairly long (mid back, until the end of the week when it gets cut).

While i was working as an operations manager in a call center up in laramie, wy one of the trainers was overheard by myself saying, "Now where did that big, fat, furry texan go?" while he was needing a signature on a write up. I thought it was funny, and so i kept it for internet use.

Excellent! That explains some of it anyway!!! No messin' with you then

visual co-creator · 09-15-2008, 08:47 PM

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abstractvisions · 09-15-2008, 09:31 PM

Very good point Bill!

Fighting and arguing are the things we need to avoid.
If you try to settle things using these, it's like shooting yourself in the foot.

A few years ago, as I began to "awaken", my wife at the time was totally against every topic I was looking into, because it scared her!
I taught myself Remote Viewing, dowsing and Reiki.

At first she thought it was "cool" that I could read her mind, or tell exactly where she was when she called from her cell phone.

Things changed when I was able to get rid of our Pastor's head ache! Within about six month, I had beed banished from the church and my wife was telling me that she wanted a divorce.

A week after I moved out of the house, I found out that my wife's boss had moved in, with her being 30, and the boss being 69. Shortly after this, I was laid off, due to a lack of incoming work. (Automotive-related.)

Thus began my Dark Night of The Soul; I lost my wife, my home, my job and now I see my two sons only one day a week.

Going through this, I have learned to stay centered; No matter what the circumstance, I still find joy!

I "see" my ex-wife's husband dying from a heart-atack in the up-coming year.
I plan on sticking around to teach her a few things, as everything comes down. My motives are not because of "I told you so", but because I figure if it weren't for the divorce, I would not have learned what I have.

Operator · 09-16-2008, 02:24 AM

Hi,

I am tech related myself. It could even be very easy to get tech people's attention if you introduce them using the videos of Nassim Haramein.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...assim+Haramein

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...assim+Haramein

here's 8 hours of video, real amazing stuff. It starts very technical only later on he brings in stuff from related to the bible etc.

This guy is amazing and funny too.

Cheers

wolfman · 09-17-2008, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuza

My husband of over 30 years just came in (Mr Practical and down to earth man), and told me, 'you still reading that Avalon .....? He went on to say "What I am worried about is what other wierd ......" your are going to get into now." - Mr Enlightenment

My wife tells me "its okay to read all these stuff but if you want to discuss about this, you better do it with me!"

what a lovely understanding woman!!

09-14-2008, 09:32 AM	#26
JohnWdoe Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 191	Re: Just been told not very nicely by husband to stop reading this stuff. Lets look at it from his standpoint, he is maybe worried about you? or he is just full of his own glout? in the polite way. Ask him what makes you think this and try and make him understand that yes we have alot of loonies but that is mostly fear mongering. Tell him you are still yourself just open to ideas that possibly can happen. Tell him how you feel and ask him to tell you how he feels when hearing it, sometimes the words itself "New World Order" "Eugenics" "WW3" "First Contact" can really seem to wash us away without even getting the point across (thats why we are here in the first place to explain this puzzle together!) Be aware of what hits and sticks to you sometimes it can lead to alot of problems but if your true at heart and really believe in yourself it will always come across genuine. Hope everything works out for ya! *jeeze i use the word hope alot :P

09-14-2008, 10:13 AM	#27
atama Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sea level, Gold Coast Posts: 86	Re: Just been told not very nicely by husband to stop reading this stuff. laugh at your husband for me.

09-14-2008, 10:16 AM	#28
crazycharlie Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: COLORADO Posts: 49	Re: Just been told not very nicely by husband to stop reading this stuff. ok where to start,, my girlfriend/commonlaw wife of 28 years had a sweat/peyote vision almost 40 years ago that told her we were controlled by unseen/alien forces and she has felt/believed that ever since. Problem is she thinks there is nothing we can do about it all.And she reads zip and does nothing about it. She leaves the TV on 24/7 and very seldom will listen to any news/info i come in with. . I tell her she is not invited to my cave when the time comes and when the time comes I'll be gone. The one thing I'm really starting to get is with so many people on the Big Blue Marble, we are all on many different paths & some of us cross when were not really on the same path at all ..? I feel for you all who are with partners not really looking at the reality of the Matrix and what appears to be soon coming our way. ( a hurricane of change )- I love that video I found thru this forum of Peggy Kane ( the 12 part interview) towards the end she says some of us just don't think things are right here and thru hell and high water are gonna find out the truth ! ( but Oh GOD that girl is a good cook ! ) Last edited by crazycharlie; 09-14-2008 at 10:20 AM.

09-14-2008, 10:25 AM	#29
Connecting with Sauce Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Chelmsford, Essex Posts: 650	Re: Just been told not very nicely by husband to stop reading this stuff. Hello All, This thread is pretty interesting... I'm an engineer/physist who got woken up pretty quickly in the last year or so. Here is my time history... 2006 I was dealing with a work project and fiancee who was ill. I had Repetive strain injury in my arms/hands and could only drive ~15 mins... I was grinding to a halt. 2007 Fiancee left for Greece Got signed off work for 9 months eventually in which I did > Tantra awakening course (school of awakening), crystals, healing, reiki, yoga, Tia Chi, lost 20kg, biodance, you name it I had a ball then I slowly returned to work in a large automotive company in Essex and slowly tried to continue my expansion... mediation kundalini balancing etc but... they want you to work! Work is bad and locks you in with stress etc I find it so difficult to deal with the mainly male engineers as they are all like this ladies husband. I would have been the same 2 years ago to someone like me wearing crystals and doing Tia Chi in the office but I've gone throught the I don't give a Sht stage I have been on an accelerated journey. My Mum is like me and reads this stuff too as I've let her read my Nexus' and have loads of DVD's on this stuff too. the first half of this year we struggled with my Dad's illness and I did so much research for lung and brain cancers but unfortunately it was a lost battle but I did reiki and massage etc with my Dad which had I not gone throught the above awakening I would have been destroyed emotionally... I miss my Dad alot but know he is there in another dimension. If he was still here he would also be like this ladies husband so maybe it was his time... I just know we are all on a journey and I now know so much about nutrition, healing, immune system function, energy, how the brain chemistry works (pineal gland thread is a must and other things I will share when I can everytheing is falling into place... I want to wake everyone up as I'm recently woken... but I realise I have my kundalini cleared to some extent with the tantric awakening which means I'm not locked in my Root Chakra like most in fear/money/etc. ps most of my friends think I'm a depressing loon but I have a smile on my face when I say the 'end is nigher' and "hold this crystal, it is for..." Last edited by Connecting with Sauce; 09-14-2008 at 10:31 AM.*

09-14-2008, 12:50 PM	#30
Tuza Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Just been told not very nicely by husband to stop reading this stuff. I asked him tonight at dinner the question about whether he thought 9/11 was an inside job. He said he believed it was the terrorists like the media said, not an inside job. Then I said well who do you think killed JFK and he stated that Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK and that was that......Mmmm, enough said I give up.

09-14-2008, 03:05 PM	#33
arcora Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 696	Re: Just been told not very nicely by husband to stop reading this stuff. One has to overcome another's fears before they can persuade. My wife is also concerned. She has two fears. One is that I will become too engrossed in research to fulfill my mundane duties. Two is that I will change so much that I will not be the same man she married. We have spoken about this. She has always admired my spiritual side as well as my ability to 'think outside the box'. That helps alot. I reassured her that her fears were unfounded and she has accepted the arrangement. As to telling others about your own non-mainstream beliefs. A similar understanding must be invoked. One must understand the reason people choose to believe in the official 9/11 story etc. Most people believe the official story because they cannot conceive of a world in which the alternative could be true. They need to have faith in our leaders and do not want to examine a possible reality where the PTB could perpetrate such dastardly deeds. In order to persuade these people, you must first lead them to understand that the PTB do not really have their best interests at heart. Once people know that the PTB are not the kind, wise leaders that we hope, they will come to understand truths that are newly self-evident. For example. My wife listens to me when I tell her about things like 9/11, the NWO etc. She will listen, nod politely and seem to agree - but I know that she isn't sure. I have taken to asking her questions which will make her think about the motives of the PTB. Yesterday I mentioned flouride in the water. I asked her why the government would put poison in the water because it is good for our teeth. I pointed out that flouride was toxic to the brain and used as an insecticide. I also asked her why, if they were concerned about our health, wouldn't they put vitamin C, magnesium or any other more beneficial nutrient in the water. This made her think. Slowly she is coming around. Last edited by arcora; 09-14-2008 at 03:10 PM.

09-14-2008, 03:19 PM	#34
TranceAm Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: South Carolina USA Posts: 368	Re: Just been told not very nicely by husband to stop reading this stuff. "I also asked her why, if they were concerned about our health, wouldn't they put vitamin C, magnesium or any other more beneficial nutrient in the water." THAT nailed the coffin shut.

09-14-2008, 08:57 PM	#36
Connecting with Sauce Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Chelmsford, Essex Posts: 650	Re: Just been told not very nicely by husband to stop reading this stuff. For some movies that may help awaken some people gently this is a movie about a Google feature called google trends... Lying media http://video.google.co.uk/videosearc...b=0&aq=-1&oq=# A good link for 9/11 http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/thermite.htm Recently I bought 90+ conspiracy (truth) DVD's from an ebay seller... before I realised most were available on google movies. I've done nothing but watch them avidily What I do is lend them to people who I think will find them amazing. I am amazed at how people are SO slow to add 2 and 2. We have our work cut out I tell you 9/11 confronting the evidence http://video.google.co.uk/videosearc...ce&hl=en&emb=0 Loose change Final Cut are great movies... More a movie http://video.google.co.uk/videosearc...ut&hl=en&emb=1 This site has virtually every movie imaginable in specific categories: http://www.maya12-21-2012.com/ I wish the day had more hous in it so I could watch these all!

09-15-2008, 11:48 AM	#37
Avid Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 660	Re: Just been told not very nicely by husband to stop reading this stuff. I'm afraid I'm in OP's position, told by my science-based partner of many years he thinks I talk absolute nonsense - even when I show proof. He actually stated he had lost all respect for me as I have no credibility left He's working in alternate energy and I sent him links to a lot of useful sites, but I guess as he didn't think of it first I have annoyed him. He's been warned off by the great poobah research PTB but won't listen to them. I want him to be very careful, to no avail. Our house has been buzzed by black planes. He doesn't even believe chemtrails exist, or what HAARP is really used for - even when I bought him a book on what HAARP is (he flicked through it and threw it on the table - "Pah"), and he is heavily into EMF! It has now got to the point where we hardly speak. I feel so alone. My parents think I'm terribly eccentric. My son doesn't want to know as he has a young child. Perhaps I should go and watch a few episodes of 'Coronation Street' to numb my mind. or back to my gardening...

09-15-2008, 03:22 PM	#39
Lythocrist Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: West Central Florida Posts: 38	Re: Just been told not very nicely by husband to stop reading this stuff. I am only 20 years old... I have only one friend I can talk to about this stuff without getting "You're nuts." or the simple arrogant look of a skeptical knower. What I mean by "skeptical knower" Is...The people who would find it very interesting if all this 'was' true, but they 'KNOW' it is not, and are going to live their lives as if it is not true, until the government hand feeds them the right information to say "Hey, the world is not run by who you think it is...When there's smoke there's fire, and the fire has gotten so big everyone is going to get burned." There's an age old saying...If it already works fine, don't try and change/fix it. Over the next few days I will be taking a greater part in The Ground Crew, and doing what I can to aid. I have many things to say, but will do my best to keep posts pertaining to the topics in the thread they are posted on.

09-15-2008, 03:36 PM	#40
Verity Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Just been told not very nicely by husband to stop reading this stuff. I'm lucky, I guess. My partner of three years thinks Project Avalon and ATS ( I'm there a lot too ) is a bunch of paranoid weirdos, but..he respects intelligent arguments. It works out well for us, really. I'm inclinced to be rather emotional and sometimes don't think things through, logically. He, on the other hand, is very logical and can look at things more coldly then I can. He's a natural sceptic which fits well with my personality. A few months back there was a post on ATS which really effected me. I felt the OP was telling the truth of his experience, and it frightened me. This was the only time that my partner ever got angry about ATS - he was angry that the woman he loved was frightened. He is open to to the themes that are discussed here and on ATS - but he is turned off by a lot of the drivel. I try hard to only present things to him which are very well thought out and presented. I've actually got him to concede that 911 could not possibly have happened the way " they " say it did, and that's a big step.

09-15-2008, 06:46 PM	#43
Myra Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: So Cal Coast USA Posts: 340	Re: Just been told not very nicely by husband to stop reading this stuff. [QUOTE=lock'N'load;] See will he show the same enthusiasm when you tell him to stop watching tv Hahaha THAT would be interesting!

09-15-2008, 08:47 PM	#47
visual co-creator Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 84	Re: Just been told not very nicely by husband to stop reading this stuff. * Last edited by visual co-creator; 10-03-2008 at 03:50 PM.

09-15-2008, 09:31 PM	#48
abstractvisions Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 9	Stay centered Very good point Bill! Fighting and arguing are the things we need to avoid. If you try to settle things using these, it's like shooting yourself in the foot. A few years ago, as I began to "awaken", my wife at the time was totally against every topic I was looking into, because it scared her! I taught myself Remote Viewing, dowsing and Reiki. At first she thought it was "cool" that I could read her mind, or tell exactly where she was when she called from her cell phone. Things changed when I was able to get rid of our Pastor's head ache! Within about six month, I had beed banished from the church and my wife was telling me that she wanted a divorce. A week after I moved out of the house, I found out that my wife's boss had moved in, with her being 30, and the boss being 69. Shortly after this, I was laid off, due to a lack of incoming work. (Automotive-related.) Thus began my Dark Night of The Soul; I lost my wife, my home, my job and now I see my two sons only one day a week. Going through this, I have learned to stay centered; No matter what the circumstance, I still find joy! I "see" my ex-wife's husband dying from a heart-atack in the up-coming year. I plan on sticking around to teach her a few things, as everything comes down. My motives are not because of "I told you so", but because I figure if it weren't for the divorce, I would not have learned what I have.

09-16-2008, 02:24 AM	#49
Operator Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Caribbean Posts: 375	Re: Just been told not very nicely by husband to stop reading this stuff. Hi, I am tech related myself. It could even be very easy to get tech people's attention if you introduce them using the videos of Nassim Haramein. http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...assim+Haramein http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...assim+Haramein here's 8 hours of video, real amazing stuff. It starts very technical only later on he brings in stuff from related to the bible etc. This guy is amazing and funny too. Cheers Last edited by Operator; 09-16-2008 at 02:26 AM.