So, where do we go when we die?? - Page 2

futureyes · 03-25-2009, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

When someone is regressed or progressed...do they become temporarily possessed...and see whatever the entity wants them to see? If one can be progressed...this implies that the future is a done deal...and freedom is a farce. I don't expect to go far when I die. I expect to review my life and conclude that I was an idiot...and then get recycled for more fun. Do people really choose parents who are starving to death and being shot at in the Darfur Region of the Sudan?[/QUOTE

I agree who would choose bad abusive parents, my parents were not the best .No you get what you get and thats it, why would I choose a life of hardship. I listend to George Meek he had travelled the world wrote books not short of money by the sound of it ,I want him to be my next dad. I've been round death and can tell you all its not the end, what I can not tell you is what is waiting for us , I feel theres love its just a feeling and I also know we are controlled in live as in death.I just hope I don't get eaten

if I do I hope I give them a bad bout of the swits

hey scanner ... someone spoke of this to me a few years back ... i looked at them and laughed so hard i cried ... are you kidding me ... i would have intentionally chosen the challenges of hardship i have experienced in this life?

i dismissed it back then ... but now ... now i know i chose exactly what i have experienced ... prior to arriving here ... i knew my purpose in the bigger picture and thus created my life experience to fulfill this purpose ...

in hindsight ... i wouldn't be who i am today if it wasn't for all that i experienced ... a tough concept to buy into ... but it is my truth now ...

it is about letting go of the emotions attached to the experiences ... and seeing them for what they actually are ...

my life experience ...

just an experience ... one that i chose ...

AND ... i wouldn't trade it for the world ...

AND ... i never thought i'd ever write this ...

or believe it ...

rhythm · 03-25-2009, 07:19 PM

Yea future eyes

rhythmm

wants

a copy toooo !!!!!

Dantheman62 · 03-25-2009, 07:50 PM

I also believe that you do choose your parents and the life you're going to live. According to everyone I've listened to or books that I've read, it's a choice so that you learn by having different experiences, like Dolores Cannon says, to fulfill the wheel of karma. If you just picked, or were given good parents, or rich parents everytime, you wouldn't learn anything to progress towards the higher spiritual realm.

Even people like Jack the ripper and his victims associated with him had a purpose as a learning experience to progress further up the spiritual ladder. You can learn as much from death as you can from life. It's all part of the ultimate school of life!

Antaletriangle · 03-25-2009, 08:15 PM

I feel it's similar to tuning a guitar....Each life is a turn of a different key on the machine head we arrive at some point at a stage when the six strings are all in harmony and ready to play some wondrous sounds- Play a beautiful harmony-job done on this level,then on the next pick up another finer instrument and tune accordingly sometimes we turn the key too far,too little; eventually it will resound true.

Swanny · 03-25-2009, 09:00 PM

If you only experienced good parents how would you know that they were good???
You need a balance of all types good and bad.

No idea where we go when we die but I'm looking forward to finding out one day

scanner · 03-25-2009, 10:33 PM

The good thing about this, is if you are all correct (and I don't know how you know it) that I will be selfish next time and choose very very rich good parents.

orthodoxymoron · 03-26-2009, 05:01 AM

I'm leaning away from believing in glory or horror after physical death. I'm thinking this is disinformation. Reviewing one's life and discussing it with both Pleiadians (Christ?) and Reptilians (Satan?) in a courtroom environment makes more sense to me. Perhaps this is where the determination is made regarding where one goes next. This is based on a potpourri of sources and speculations. I can't prove it...but I'd almost be willing to bet money on it.

macrostheblack · 03-26-2009, 10:10 PM

This is my understanding...

First one must realise that the soul matrix is manifested by the DNA, each cell contains the memory or blueprint. If you take a part of a body and place it in another you also take a copy of the original soul matrix. Anyone read of donor transplants where the patient takes on new traits and interests after being given the new organ or body part?

When we die, the aura signals a change within the DNA that realeases the soul matrix. Only when the correct time is met does the soul return to astral and from there into higher realms etc.

In the astral you find you surroundings represent your earth mind - as you are still carrying the human behaviour. This is also the place of density where deceased loved ones visit with aim to link with those on earth - often in dreams. The astral is a place of adjustment for the soul.

After some time you tune more in to your true self and feel urges to move on. Your vibrational blueprint to the body/container is forgotten and the energy you eminate links with a further more distant realm or plane.

You return to this calling place and often find others like yourself - often soul groups. Here you have more intense 1-1 with your guides and may move up alittle or may have to sometime return to earth.

Overall time cannot be measured in the afterlife unless you link to the astral and then to the earth plane and even this leaves you with a fuzzy idea. I say this to describe how you can spend a 1000 years in the astral or just 1 day - but both are the same - if this makes sense.

Has this helped anyone?

Humble Janitor · 03-27-2009, 08:18 AM

I believe that NDEs (Near Death Experiences) are genuine and it would be wrong to dismiss them as imagination. In fact, they are so fascinating, it gives me pause to read them and actually makes me fear death a little less each time.

But to touch on a point about how we come back to learn from our past, it does feel like that sometimes.

03-27-2009, 08:38 AM

This question can only be answered by the individual.
If the soul needs to be reincarnated in this plan, which at this present time all souls just get rebounded to this plan until the hjand over has happened and evry soul has its new destination.

Normally in the periods between the interchange, where learning and growth is the order of the day. The sould will go back to source for recharging. The source is not the center of creation just a localised center of central force of creation. Regroup and then redescend for more expantion and learning. If completion is made and this will be mostly the case after the change over, or a straight remebering of past incarnations, The soul group will use the passeage through the center of the earth, being projected to the sun and then out of this system to its desire relocation, or where it is needed.

You ammit will no longer exist, even as a soul, you will be imerged into you soul group along with your memories etc.

What can happen in the past is that the souls get attached to this realm and not notice death or even ignor the fact that they have died. This souls part will then wonder trying to find another sould group to be part of. This is impossible as all soul groups are complete and can not absorb another part. Therefore it will attache itself to a living person oor try to project its physical being through the mind and energy of the physical beings of this plan.

They are stuck and don't go anywhere until they are given a helping hand , so they can refind their sould group and start the process again.

But in essence to your question it is a choice, that is almost made for you through a sense of well being.

For my part, I was met on the path and told that I had alot more to do and that I should return to my body and I did. That is my experience and the spirits and souls I met, I met.

For all others they meet who they wish to meet or need to meet to make the journey.

But spirits and souls that are trap only have power if we give them intention through our own being.

03-25-2009, 07:19 PM	#27
rhythm Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: devon england Posts: 1,905	Re: So, where do we go when we die?? *Yea future eyes* *rhythmm* *wants* *a copy toooo !!!!!*

03-25-2009, 07:50 PM	#28
Dantheman62 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: So. Cal. U.S. Posts: 4,205	Re: So, where do we go when we die?? I also believe that you do choose your parents and the life you're going to live. According to everyone I've listened to or books that I've read, it's a choice so that you learn by having different experiences, like Dolores Cannon says, to fulfill the wheel of karma. If you just picked, or were given good parents, or rich parents everytime, you wouldn't learn anything to progress towards the higher spiritual realm. Even people like Jack the ripper and his victims associated with him had a purpose as a learning experience to progress further up the spiritual ladder. You can learn as much from death as you can from life. It's all part of the ultimate school of life!

03-25-2009, 08:15 PM	#29
Antaletriangle Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: U.K. Posts: 3,380	Re: So, where do we go when we die?? I feel it's similar to tuning a guitar....Each life is a turn of a different key on the machine head we arrive at some point at a stage when the six strings are all in harmony and ready to play some wondrous sounds- Play a beautiful harmony-job done on this level,then on the next pick up another finer instrument and tune accordingly sometimes we turn the key too far,too little; eventually it will resound true.

03-25-2009, 09:00 PM	#30
Swanny I dont need a label ! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Shire of Wilt Posts: 2,889	Re: So, where do we go when we die?? If you only experienced good parents how would you know that they were good??? You need a balance of all types good and bad. No idea where we go when we die but I'm looking forward to finding out one day

03-25-2009, 10:33 PM	#31
scanner Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: sea level England ,I must move Posts: 195	Re: So, where do we go when we die?? The good thing about this, is if you are all correct (and I don't know how you know it) that I will be selfish next time and choose very very rich good parents.

03-26-2009, 05:01 AM	#32
orthodoxymoron Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lunar Base II Posts: 3,093	Re: So, where do we go when we die?? I'm leaning away from believing in glory or horror after physical death. I'm thinking this is disinformation. Reviewing one's life and discussing it with both Pleiadians (Christ?) and Reptilians (Satan?) in a courtroom environment makes more sense to me. Perhaps this is where the determination is made regarding where one goes next. This is based on a potpourri of sources and speculations. I can't prove it...but I'd almost be willing to bet money on it. Last edited by orthodoxymoron; 03-26-2009 at 05:04 AM.

03-26-2009, 10:10 PM	#33
macrostheblack Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 386	Re: So, where do we go when we die?? This is my understanding... First one must realise that the soul matrix is manifested by the DNA, each cell contains the memory or blueprint. If you take a part of a body and place it in another you also take a copy of the original soul matrix. Anyone read of donor transplants where the patient takes on new traits and interests after being given the new organ or body part? When we die, the aura signals a change within the DNA that realeases the soul matrix. Only when the correct time is met does the soul return to astral and from there into higher realms etc. In the astral you find you surroundings represent your earth mind - as you are still carrying the human behaviour. This is also the place of density where deceased loved ones visit with aim to link with those on earth - often in dreams. The astral is a place of adjustment for the soul. After some time you tune more in to your true self and feel urges to move on. Your vibrational blueprint to the body/container is forgotten and the energy you eminate links with a further more distant realm or plane. You return to this calling place and often find others like yourself - often soul groups. Here you have more intense 1-1 with your guides and may move up alittle or may have to sometime return to earth. Overall time cannot be measured in the afterlife unless you link to the astral and then to the earth plane and even this leaves you with a fuzzy idea. I say this to describe how you can spend a 1000 years in the astral or just 1 day - but both are the same - if this makes sense. Has this helped anyone?

03-27-2009, 08:18 AM	#34
Humble Janitor Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,201	Re: So, where do we go when we die?? I believe that NDEs (Near Death Experiences) are genuine and it would be wrong to dismiss them as imagination. In fact, they are so fascinating, it gives me pause to read them and actually makes me fear death a little less each time. But to touch on a point about how we come back to learn from our past, it does feel like that sometimes.

03-27-2009, 08:38 AM	#35
lawlessline Guest Posts: n/a	Re: So, where do we go when we die?? This question can only be answered by the individual. If the soul needs to be reincarnated in this plan, which at this present time all souls just get rebounded to this plan until the hjand over has happened and evry soul has its new destination. Normally in the periods between the interchange, where learning and growth is the order of the day. The sould will go back to source for recharging. The source is not the center of creation just a localised center of central force of creation. Regroup and then redescend for more expantion and learning. If completion is made and this will be mostly the case after the change over, or a straight remebering of past incarnations, The soul group will use the passeage through the center of the earth, being projected to the sun and then out of this system to its desire relocation, or where it is needed. You ammit will no longer exist, even as a soul, you will be imerged into you soul group along with your memories etc. What can happen in the past is that the souls get attached to this realm and not notice death or even ignor the fact that they have died. This souls part will then wonder trying to find another sould group to be part of. This is impossible as all soul groups are complete and can not absorb another part. Therefore it will attache itself to a living person oor try to project its physical being through the mind and energy of the physical beings of this plan. They are stuck and don't go anywhere until they are given a helping hand , so they can refind their sould group and start the process again. But in essence to your question it is a choice, that is almost made for you through a sense of well being. For my part, I was met on the path and told that I had alot more to do and that I should return to my body and I did. That is my experience and the spirits and souls I met, I met. For all others they meet who they wish to meet or need to meet to make the journey. But spirits and souls that are trap only have power if we give them intention through our own being.