Al Gore's Lies Exposed By Congress

[BROOK]

Wow.....Someone is getting grilled...check it out

[BROOK]

[Humble Janitor]

A few questions:

1. Who is James Corbett?

2. Why are people so hell-bent on discrediting the envrionmental movement?

3. Why do some politicians still stubbornly refuse to admit that something is going on with the climate?

4. Do Republicans have a vested interest in destroying the environmental movement?


From what I've seen as a student of environmental studies, it isn't even close to the radical, granola-munching liberal stereotypes that people like to throw at it.

THE environment affects ALL of us.

[Angel in Disguise]

I may or may not believe in the global warming scandal as it stands... However... It really sickens me to go to what could be BEAUTIFUL beaches all over the world and see them littered with mostly plastics. You can find anything plastic there... And even then so, watch a sofa chair float past you

I don't give a rat's ass who cares about global warming... BUT... Global polluting and littering???... That's a whole different issue for me

[Unified Serenity]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

A few questions:

1. Who is James Corbett?

2. Why are people so hell-bent on discrediting the envrionmental movement?

3. Why do some politicians still stubbornly refuse to admit that something is going on with the climate?

4. Do Republicans have a vested interest in destroying the environmental movement?


From what I've seen as a student of environmental studies, it isn't even close to the radical, granola-munching liberal stereotypes that people like to throw at it.

THE environment affects ALL of us.

I don't really care who he is, his message is valid. I do not think he discredited the environmental movement, but shared what's happened to it, and how it has been co-opted for a corporate / political means to control and use society to further their profits and ideals.

I don't think Republicans are anti-environmental. I think they are anti-socialist big government controlled society... Well, the old conservative Republicans that is. Neocons are the same as socialists.

The Global warming scheme has been proven to be false science when it tries to connect CO2 rising with causing Global warming. It's data, records, models, and even physics arguments have been proven false. Yes, there is climate change here on earth, just as there is on all the other planets. Man is not the cause of that change and has very little real effect on the climate. We can no more control the climate than we could stop Mt. Vesuvius from blowing up. We need to have transparency in science, data analysis and gathering and we need to work on real solutions to pollution, good drinking water, and healthy food for all as well as free energy. If we do these things, we will truly be a better people.

Imagine if all the money we spent on pseudo science went to these things how much better our world would be.

Facts about Global Warming

[Steve_A]

Hi Humble Janitor,

I have a friend down here in Brazil who also studied environmental studies and he beleives in man made carbon dioxide created global warming. I can understand that, as he studied from text books and the information was given to him at the university.

The problem is that he wasn't given the opportunity to look at alternatives and the information he was given (including the famous 'hockey stick') all came from the same source and there lies the problem.

The majorityof us accept information from text books as being the truth, be it history, social studies or environmental studies. We accept the information and don't look to check if the information is correct nor look for alternatives.

There is no-one "discrediting the environmental movement" as you put it, on the contrary, they are wanting an open debate on the subject, which until now has not happened. It appears that a few are wanting to discredit the environmental movement by stating that they are the holders of the truth and that is that! It isn't the people that you mentioned.

Are there changes in the environment? Sure. Nobody is denying that. Are they caused by man made carbon emissions? Not too sure. When I was a kid the fashionable thing was that aerosol sprays were eating away at the ozone layer and we were letting too much sun get through the hole. Now it's because of 'greenhouse' effects made by a layer of CO2. More recently Al Gore said it was because of..... too much laughing gas in the air. This isn't a Republican thing. Absolute calculations do not have a political party, they are right or they are wrong. There are many Democrats that think the same way.

After the recent 'climategate' scandal it appears the very root of information that almost the WHOLE WORLD was using for their calculations is wrong!

It's like the following:

I say that,

x = 2 + 2

2 + 2 = 3

x = 3


I dont tell you how I got to the value of x, I just tell youthat x = 3 and from that youbase all of your future calculus.

Climategate is discovering that 2 + 2 = 3 and it's wrong. The people responsible for this equation (2 + 2 = 3) are trying now to tell us it's too late to change, too late to discuss, that the costs are too high to investigate this and that the global tax on the environment has to be agreed on. All based on 2 + 2 = 3!

Can you understand why people get a little upset?

Best regards,

Steve

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

A few questions:

1. Who is James Corbett?

2. Why are people so hell-bent on discrediting the envrionmental movement?

3. Why do some politicians still stubbornly refuse to admit that something is going on with the climate?

4. Do Republicans have a vested interest in destroying the environmental movement?


From what I've seen as a student of environmental studies, it isn't even close to the radical, granola-munching liberal stereotypes that people like to throw at it.

THE environment affects ALL of us.

[BROOK]

Thanks Steve_A for the excellent explanation...2+2=3 EXACTLY!

[micjer]

Originally Posted by Angel in Disguise

... It really sickens me to go to what could be BEAUTIFUL beaches all over the world and see them littered with mostly plastics. You can find anything plastic there... And even then so, watch a sofa chair float past you

I don't give a rat's ass who cares about global warming... BUT... Global polluting and littering???... That's a whole different issue for me

Excellent point. I am with you.

I think that Al Gore and assoc. are using the fact that the climate has warmed up for a bit to introduce taxes to their advantage. Are they going to tax the martians and enhabitants of the other planets (which have warmed up also)?

They should have put the tax on polluters ..... then we would be getting somewhere! Clean up the ocean between california and hawaii for starters.

And don't get me started on China......

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by micjer

Excellent point. I am with you.

I think that Al Gore and assoc. are using the fact that the climate has warmed up for a bit to introduce taxes to their advantage. Are they going to tax the martians and enhabitants of the other planets (which have warmed up also)?

They should have put the tax on polluters ..... then we would be getting somewhere! Clean up the ocean between california and hawaii for starters.

And don't get me started on China......

I agree ....pollution has got to get under control

But global warming..... SCAM SCAM SCAM

[mntruthseeker]

HJ I used to be a democrat oh how funny.........

everytime I read one of your postings that goes to protect one now, I think of how I used to think!

the democrats and republicans are on the same side and always will be................against us

I care alot about our enviroment What Al Gore did was wrong and he deserves to be grilled over it.

Do I believe this will change anything ? Oh not a chance. Its bad cop versus good cop. They just want us to believe they are upset. Its all a game

they want to create havoc on people that still believe their is a two party system.

they are truly enjoying the anger they are creating.

[burgundia]

[micjer]

And all of that garbage doesn't biodegrade. Floats around forever to be swallowed by marine animals.

Some people are such slobs. Clean up after yourselves for crying out loud. Out of site out of mind mentality.

Now surely the industrial complex could start using plastics that biodegrade for starters.

[mntruthseeker]

Exactly Micjer and Burgundia

This was a known fact and yet they never changed the plastic bags to what we might now find in the stores...........Biogradable

This was a known fact years ago and ole gore isnt going to make me believe he tried to do anything about this either. Its all BS and a plot to make us pay more taxes to feed their greedy selfs.

what happen to all the money he made ? did anyone see something get cleaned up ? In MN the lottery was suppose to use their profits to clean up the enviroment..................haha that didnt happen. Cub Scouts and individual groups clean up our roads and parks.

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by Angel in Disguise

I may or may not believe in the global warming scandal as it stands... However... It really sickens me to go to what could be BEAUTIFUL beaches all over the world and see them littered with mostly plastics. You can find anything plastic there... And even then so, watch a sofa chair float past you

I don't give a rat's ass who cares about global warming... BUT... Global polluting and littering???... That's a whole different issue for me

I agree with you on putting more emphasis on this aspect of pollution. Gee, I could have used that sofa, lol.

[burgundia]

That is why, I, like Don Quichote ( fighting against the windmills), pick up plastic and glass bottles on my way to and from work and put them in rubbish bins. I know where all the rubbish bins are, so that I wouldn't have to carry too much of that stuff for a too long distance...
But it is really sad, people just throw everything around...

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by micjer

Excellent point. I am with you.

I think that Al Gore and assoc. are using the fact that the climate has warmed up for a bit to introduce taxes to their advantage. Are they going to tax the martians and enhabitants of the other planets (which have warmed up also)?

They should have put the tax on polluters ..... then we would be getting somewhere! Clean up the ocean between california and hawaii for starters.

And don't get me started on China......

Every individual, from Illuminati to housewives like me need to be accountable for pollution as we are aware of it and become more aware of it. I am simplifying my life and my recycle box becomes less and less full in proportion to the goods that I purchase.

As a "Tedhead" (Ted Warren stock and commodities strategists) the Insider Traders manipulate the markets to spike and fall. They are now manipulating the market of oil to return once again to another long and low "accumulation" phase.

Instilled belief in scarcity in anything that they can get us to agree upon is simply a way of life here on planet earth. Even housewives like to play that game :-) The truth is that there is no scarcity -- it was an invention -- a control mechanism.

People who wish to hold back the truth so as to make it a scarce commodity in order to make money are doing a disservice to the truth and to the beings on this planet.

[Gnosis5]

Exactly, you hit the nail on the head, you pulled the lynchpin out of this farce.

Back at the Country Club they are all cozy with each other: "Well done, Al! Let's make the commodity prices of oil fall so we can once again begin our accumulation phase and shake all the monkeys (non Country Club members) out of the market and then we will pump the market up again"....and this cycle goes on and on and on as long as doctors and dentists fall for it :-)

And I'm just a little blonde housewife in Toronto, remember? I'm not supposed to know all this stuff.

I'm supposed to feel really really bad about being one of those polluters and be willing to receive my "tax punishment" like a good socially responsible middle classer.

The only "overpopulation problem" we have on this planet is the overpopulation of Illuminati/Lords BS'ers and their subordinate BS'ers.

Yes, there may be certain cultures that aggressively overpopulate for antagonistic reasons as a response to feeling threatened, but they will lighten up rather easily once the most influential BS'ers are exposed and disempowered as a result.

And I'm not taking these issues to Congress.: I am taking it as high up the chain of BS'ers to whatever dimension or universe I locate them. I'm going to change some perverted minds all the way to the top. A lot of beings are going to stop being who they think they have become and start being themselves again -- decent and orderly. They'll even thank me for it :-)

And I'm just a housewife in Toronto, remember? That's my cover so keep this between us :-)

cheers,
gnosis

Originally Posted by mntruthseeker

HJ I used to be a democrat oh how funny.........

everytime I read one of your postings that goes to protect one now, I think of how I used to think!

the democrats and republicans are on the same side and always will be................against us

I care alot about our enviroment What Al Gore did was wrong and he deserves to be grilled over it.

Do I believe this will change anything ? Oh not a chance. Its bad cop versus good cop. They just want us to believe they are upset. Its all a game

they want to create havoc on people that still believe their is a two party system.

they are truly enjoying the anger they are creating.

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by Unified Serenity

I don't really care who he is, his message is valid.

And I think Al Gore has a point, even if his science is not really science. What is your point?

I do not think he discredited the environmental movement, but shared what's happened to it, and how it has been co-opted for a corporate / political means to control and use society to further their profits and ideals.

That would make it no different from the agenda of Fox News to Rupert-ize the world with their brand of ********. Ditto on any form of Fright-wing media.

I don't think Republicans are anti-environmental. I think they are anti-socialist big government controlled society... Well, the old conservative Republicans that is. Neocons are the same as socialists.

They don't even know what socialism is do they? Instead, they rely on old Cold War fears to justify their actions. Did they think Dr.Strangelove was a documentary?(!)

And for 8 years, Republicans stood aside while Shrub racked up a huge deficit yet they're out there, dumping out teabags and crying their lame asses off over Obama.

The Global warming scheme has been proven to be false science when it tries to connect CO2 rising with causing Global warming. It's data, records, models, and even physics arguments have been proven false. Yes, there is climate change here on earth, just as there is on all the other planets. Man is not the cause of that change and has very little real effect on the climate. We can no more control the climate than we could stop Mt. Vesuvius from blowing up. We need to have transparency in science, data analysis and gathering and we need to work on real solutions to pollution, good drinking water, and healthy food for all as well as free energy. If we do these things, we will truly be a better people.

I'd like to see you use scientific methods to prove your words instead of just relying on what some Fox crony said.

Imagine if all the money we spent on pseudo science went to these things how much better our world would be.

Yes, because a world full of arrogant, pompous, jackass right-wing Republicans would surely be better than one of socialists, right?


You'll have to excuse my negativity but this rant is a long time in the making. I've tried countless times to ignore things but it's not easy. I've tried countless times to stay positive and instead, I end up at a place that seems to support the tea-bagging crybabies that make up this country. People who were too cowardly to protest when Bush was in office. People who will never stand up to the current machine.

Instead, they'll use the internet as their hidey hole and pretend to give a **** about the rest of the world.

We can move beyond this tea-bagging, global-warming denying ********. I don't care about the exact science. SOMETHING is going on and being the kind of people we are, we just have to "tag it and bag it" instead of examining the greater cause of it.

Why should I believe this site is any different than a typical right-wing site like Rense or ATS?

/rant

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by mntruthseeker

HJ I used to be a democrat oh how funny.........

everytime I read one of your postings that goes to protect one now, I think of how I used to think!

Do you think that character assassination is justified in a new paradigm?

I don't.

And If Al didn't do it, someone else would have.

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

Originally Posted by BROOK

I agree ....pollution has got to get under control

But global warming..... SCAM SCAM SCAM

+1

real pollution and waste dumping , gmo foods, chemicals and plastics in the enviroment all valid concerns and should be adressed. these are not being adressed because al gore and his dik hed mates cant rape us with taxes for it.

they dont want to spend money to fix it cos in their eyes it doesnt benfit them.

al gore should be jailed forever at the least and prob publicly hung sadam hussein style. or perhaps we could send them to mars for the rest of their lives doing hard labour mining operations.

[artvision]

Look here the people comments for that news that 30,000 scientists sue Al Gore:


Look the people comments for this bast@rd, lying crook, thieve and criminal and all their cronies from University of East Anglia, all of them should be put immediately on trial, investigation and go to jail for trying to con all people from the world with their lies, cooked and fake data. Also the UN has to be dissolved immediately for perpetrating such fraud with clear intentions to create a World Government with UN Security Council at top!

All people that took part, of these crooks either has something to gain, or should be shame on them, for morally perpetrating such fraud to their human fellows, voluntary or involuntary! There is no excuse!

[micjer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNbxY...ayer_embedded#

Glenn Beck on "ClimateGate" Man-Made Global Warming Climate Scam-Actual Proven Conspiracy 11-23-09

[Northern Boy]

Heres the part that sticks out in my mind about Gore . When he was in Office as Vice Jackas s he had an oppourtunity to do some thing about these issue`s and didn`t Clear cutting of amazonian forests was going on and not once did he stand up and say this has to stop . Simple fact is trees need CO2 to survive we need O2 plant more trees to eliminate the CO2 in the areas that need it seems the logical thing to do. But they don`t want to plant treess they want to reach into our pockets every minute of the day and extract funds from it to pay the big corportions and the big polluters . Gore was thrown this bone after not contesting the election loss to Bush . One hand washs the other

[Initiate]

There is a global responsibility for us as stewards of planet earth to take care of her.

Even a layman can see:

1) We can't keep chopping down tree's which turn carbon dioxide into oxygen
2) We can't keep pumping the atmosphere full of pollutants
3) We can't keep stock piling non biodegradable waste forever
4) We can’t keep stock piling radioactive waste forever
5) We can’t keep contaminating our water ways with phosphates etc. from industrial farm rain water run offs.

We can look at long term sustainability. We can look for ways of being accountable with each other. We shouldn’t pervert carbon trading schemes for monitory gains.

If the figures have been exaggerated in the research really all that does is push the issue closer to the now. Whilst it exaggerates the findings the findings are still valid. We can’t sustain our current way of life indefinitely. I don’t condone falsifying results. However, judging by the speed at which people way up, maybe they saw it was the only way to get people to see how crucial this issue is. If we don’t do something it will be too late. This has nothing to do with politics. This has everything to do with distracting from our responsibilities.

[mntruthseeker]

HJ

I did not assassinate Al Gores character. Al Gore handled that himself