False Flag UFO attack...True of False?

viking · 11-02-2009, 03:31 PM

Ok, with all these False Flag Scenarios which according to many spokesmen/women will happen...

How would you know if they are for real??

Are they the PTB (were) or are they our Brothers and sisters? How would you know?

viking

mntruthseeker · 11-02-2009, 04:24 PM

Viking

First of all these video's clearly show TPTB's intent..............its what we do with it that matters

We know that "our thoughts" can change the outcome

Do we want to let them put fear out there or our love for peace?

I dont care what the aliens look like, it doesn't matter. They are all Gods creations. Same as us

I think that this is an attempt to frighten us because they know that if we win this battle they will no longer be in power.............they are the ones that have something to worry about not us. They are unable to evolve as we can

I will not go along with their attempts to push fear in me because I want more than anything for us all to live in love with no divisions.

I believe that we are worth saving and we will win this battle. I believe that there is so much help on their way and its all for world peace. A Universal World.

Our thoughts are so important and they already decided we are worth this evolution.

They have much to lose and lets see that they do indeed LOSE

Stargazer1965 · 11-02-2009, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by viking

Ok, with all these False Flag Scenarios which according to many spokesmen/women will happen...

How would you know if they are for real??

Are they the PTB (were) or are they our Brothers and sisters? How would you know?

YouTube - FALSE FLAG UFO ATTACK PLAN ON THE WORLD

YouTube - PT4 RADIO-NOW THAT'S WEIRD-IAN R CRANE ON UFO FALSE FLAG

YouTube - The Ultimate Deception - The Final Attack

viking

Every time I read this...I start giggling....

I can just see the president introduce NIMROD from the GOORG and a guy in a bad alien costume shuffles forward and his arm spontaneously falls off....or it trips and lands on it face....

RedeZra · 11-02-2009, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stargazer1965

Every time I read this...I start giggling....

I can just see the president introduce NIMROD from the GOORG and a guy in a bad alien costume shuffles forward and his arm spontaneously falls off....or it trips and lands on it face....

lol yes that would be a funny scenario

let's hope if they try to pull a false alien flag on us

that it will be a complete farse and a hilarious failure

ufos spinning out of control airsick aliens in bad costumes

stumbling around the white house lawn and attacked by Bo the white house dog

Jnana · 11-02-2009, 07:19 PM

I've seen sufficient evidence that such plans are real.

Will the plan be executed?
If so, when?

I think it remains a possibility. I don't know if it would be staged as a "surprise attack", or if they would attempt some sort of emotional build-up in the press prior to the simulated attack. I think there is still a chance that it can be averted entirely. We'll see.

TRANCOSO · 11-02-2009, 08:16 PM

"The good news is that those who really should fear us, are the ones who betray their own species," my alien penpal from Aldabaran once told me.

I'm still waiting on his reply to my question what the bad news is.

mntruthseeker · 11-02-2009, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRANCOSO

"The good news is that those who really should fear us, are the ones who betray their own species," my alien penpal from Aldabaran once told me.

I'm still waiting on his reply to my question what the bad news is.

LOL make sure you tell us the answer.....I suspect its us changing our sub-conscious mind..............and erasing the ****/programs that they loaded it with

viking · 11-02-2009, 08:34 PM

Ok, joking aside .....

How would we know the differance with the real thing??

Seriously think about it....how would you discern if they are real or not... is the technology they have (PTB) so far advanced that we wouldn't have a clue??

Also let's suppose there were ET's up there with motives for there own benefit how will you discern if they have good intentions or bad??

viking

mntruthseeker · 11-02-2009, 09:08 PM

I say FALSE

there will be no alien attack. They programmed our minds to have these thoughts and only WE can change them

So when people say they are writing their own realities...........that is part of it. erase that program and put in your new one that doesnt include fear

I hope that makes sense to us because I know it took me awhile to "catch" on about changing my reality but I know now and I see it working more and more everyday.

It will not happen

TheObserver · 11-02-2009, 09:14 PM

The fact that it's an attack would make it false flag in my book.

viking · 11-02-2009, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mntruthseeker

I say FALSE

there will be no alien attack. They programmed our minds to have these thoughts and only WE can change them

So when people say they are writing their own realities...........that is part of it. erase that program and put in your new one that doesnt include fear

I hope that makes sense to us because I know it took me awhile to "catch" on about changing my reality but I know now and I see it working more and more everyday.

It will not happen

I totally agree with you Truthseeker and Observer... It will not happen... I just want people to understand the huge implications of the PTW were to try this... surely we would recognize the true reality...wouldn't we??

OK truthseeker lets say we have Disclosure of some sort and eventual contact...how would you discern if they have good intentions or not...

I think these are important questions as we are getting closer to Disclosure...... thoughts anyone???

viking

Peace of mind · 11-02-2009, 09:39 PM

trust yourself....also, keeping a pure heart will aid in filtering out the impurities. This is one sure way to tell what's real or not. The soul can feel all viberations, everything haves a vibe to it.

Fredkc · 11-02-2009, 09:49 PM

First, I assume that any government initiated "disclosure" is either:

Not good,
Fake,
Or both.

See Werner Von Braun's warning, coupled with the fact that it stands to reason any govt disclosure will take care to hide all the evil cr@p government has done with it, in the past.

mntruthseeker · 11-02-2009, 10:10 PM

Very good answer Peace

Viking this is relatively new for me and it took me awhile to understand

To be honest with you, I no longer believe in all the BS that is coming at us.

In my heart I trust that our Universal family is in a much better "frame" of mind so to speak. They do love us and want nothing but good. They already know how to live in harmony. We are part of that and came here to help save our planet. We just need to remember the way it was and believe it with no attachments included

I know that ever since I figured out that it was up to me to change the program, I don't have a problem reading these type of threads.......

NO NO I'm not saying anything against you, its out there and people are viewing these videos and we are being aware of what is heading towards our family members and love ones that are still sleeping................

I know that "just" reading this is not going to make it happen as it no longer scares me. I'm through with their games.............

I know I need to work harder on passing around the cure so to speak

negativity can only change your mind if you are not able to stop it from putting fear into your mind.

My friends told me once, there is no joy at the end of fear and she is absolutely correct

TRANCOSO · 11-02-2009, 10:13 PM

Consider this: Perhaps there ARE alien 'motherships' spinning around our planet, but mainly with the purpose to PREVENT a False Flag attack by TPTB.

Mind you, they won't interfere when TPTB start a war under their own (Illuminati/Skull & Bones) flag, or whatever that flag may look like.

If there's going to be a 'False Flag' attack, TPTB better think twice about whose Flag their gonna use.

Swanny · 11-02-2009, 10:15 PM

First, I think that anything the government says is a lie especially if it is negative

If/when aliens do come here they will be so much more advanced than us that if they wanted to take control it would be easy for them to do so. So any government saying we are in a war with them must be full of s'it.

Jnana · 11-02-2009, 10:25 PM

A false flag alien attack will be STUPID. It won't take out key military equipment. It won't eliminate our ability to respond. It will hit things that are symbolic, but not important. Anything important will be "coincidentally" out of the way. We will have absurdly good news coverage of it. There will be lots of big explosions. We will shoot down some of the craft. We won't be utterly defeated in the first five minutes. The situation will be desperate, but it will look like we have a fighting chance if we just pull together. It could be a hit and run giving us time to build up a defensive force in response. Stuff like that.

mntruthseeker · 11-02-2009, 10:26 PM

[QUOTE=TRANCOSO;183983]Consider this: Perhaps there ARE alien 'motherships' spinning around our planet, but mainly with the purpose to PREVENT a False Flag attack by TPTB.

There are space crafts spinning aoround our planet as we speak. There is no doubt in my mind that they are here to help us.

The so called evil reptilians supposely broke the treaty and are doing whatever they want now..... OK so what are they waiting for ? fMaybe for TPTB to decide when they should attack ? OH for sure I believe that

TheObserver · 11-02-2009, 10:39 PM

Also if it's 'breaking news' on all tv channels it's false flag.

waitinginthewings · 11-02-2009, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mntruthseeker

I say FALSE

there will be no alien attack. They programmed our minds to have these thoughts and only WE can change them

So when people say they are writing their own realities...........that is part of it. erase that program and put in your new one that doesnt include fear

I hope that makes sense to us because I know it took me awhile to "catch" on about changing my reality but I know now and I see it working more and more everyday.

It will not happen

does this mean that you will not exerience the invasion, not even be aware its happening? But the rest of the world will experience it, because they are not creating the same reality that you are.......just trying to understand how this creating your own reality really works

14 Chakras · 11-02-2009, 10:45 PM

How would humanity supposedly have a war with ET's that are tens of thousands of years more advanced than us technologically speaking?

They would obviously instantly be able to take over if it was just a battle of technology. However, it is not just a battle of technology. It is a spiritual take over that is planned.

If there is some kind of 'attack' of course it is false flag. But why would you assume that it is humans behind the false flag event rather than ET government. In the end, the ET's interfering directly here and not telling you that you can solve your own problems when you connect to your divine source within may very well have their own agenda's, which first and foremost is being your new government and your new leaders.

This is your planet. Claim it. Take dominion over it. God within you can solve the problems we apparently face now. Remember you are More than the character you're playing in the matrix. Be.

TheObserver · 11-02-2009, 11:01 PM

I'm not saying ETs (or EDs) in gov't wouldn't be involved of course.

mntruthseeker · 11-02-2009, 11:06 PM

First off, I have to wonder what has prevented them from doing so for such a very long time already ..............nada thing.

So I believe that they are in the minorities. The world is waking up and we are filling the energy field with positive thoughts and bringing forth the light........TPTB is all darkness and the light will blow them out of our space and we will move into 5th where they are unable to survive. They no longer run the program....we are in control of our own. Thats what is different this time.................we make the changes we want.

no attack will happen. They can't exist on the dimension we are moving to

You see we are worth saving Everyday more and more are waking up, those of us that are "finally" getting it will have to help those that are now just awakening. Its not an easy process at all.

The crafts are not just hovering around our planet. They are helping to remove the veil so that our "memories" will start to come back. Its happening more and more everyday. OH yes, we have so much help and they love us dearly. So many of our love ones cheering us on. We just have to listen.

IMO anyhow

14 Chakras · 11-02-2009, 11:22 PM

"First off, I have to wonder what has prevented them from doing so for such a very long time already"

Consider (From my perspective the reason is):
A) TPTB are ET. They already run the show.
B) Cosmic law is what prevents them from doing it against your free will.
C) You give no credit whatsoever to the infinite, to the Archangels, to the ascended beings of light to put a stop to their shenanigans which is exactly why they haven't been more successful in the late of stirring up trouble.

If we are only willing to look for our saviors in 3d and not willing to connect to spiritual truth, it is obvious, we need good ET's to come save us from the bad humans (which are in reality ET themselves). However, when we are willing to search and find in our own heart we will find that spiritual truth is where the power lies, not outside but inside.

waitinginthewings · 11-02-2009, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waitinginthewings

does this mean that you will not exerience the invasion, not even be aware its happening? But the rest of the world will experience it, because they are not creating the same reality that you are.......just trying to understand how this creating your own reality really works

Mntruthseeker...I am interested in your understanding as to the question posed.

11-02-2009, 03:31 PM	#1
viking Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 1,709	False Flag UFO attack...True of False? Ok, with all these False Flag Scenarios which according to many spokesmen/women will happen... How would you know if they are for real?? Are they the PTB (were) or are they our Brothers and sisters? How would you know? viking Last edited by GaiaLove; 11-02-2009 at 05:01 PM. Reason: typo

11-02-2009, 04:24 PM	#2
mntruthseeker Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,482	Re: False Flag UFU attack...True of False? Viking First of all these video's clearly show TPTB's intent..............its what we do with it that matters We know that "our thoughts" can change the outcome Do we want to let them put fear out there or our love for peace? I dont care what the aliens look like, it doesn't matter. They are all Gods creations. Same as us I think that this is an attempt to frighten us because they know that if we win this battle they will no longer be in power.............they are the ones that have something to worry about not us. They are unable to evolve as we can I will not go along with their attempts to push fear in me because I want more than anything for us all to live in love with no divisions. I believe that we are worth saving and we will win this battle. I believe that there is so much help on their way and its all for world peace. A Universal World. Our thoughts are so important and they already decided we are worth this evolution. They have much to lose and lets see that they do indeed LOSE

11-02-2009, 07:19 PM	#5
Jnana Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 653	Re: False Flag UFO attack...True of False? I've seen sufficient evidence that such plans are real. Will the plan be executed? If so, when? I think it remains a possibility. I don't know if it would be staged as a "surprise attack", or if they would attempt some sort of emotional build-up in the press prior to the simulated attack. I think there is still a chance that it can be averted entirely. We'll see.

11-02-2009, 08:16 PM	#6
TRANCOSO Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 964	Re: False Flag UFO attack...True of False? "The good news is that those who really should fear us, are the ones who betray their own species," my alien penpal from Aldabaran once told me. I'm still waiting on his reply to my question what the bad news is.

11-02-2009, 08:34 PM	#8
viking Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 1,709	Re: False Flag UFO attack...True of False? Ok, joking aside ..... How would we know the differance with the real thing?? Seriously think about it....how would you discern if they are real or not... is the technology they have (PTB) so far advanced that we wouldn't have a clue?? Also let's suppose there were ET's up there with motives for there own benefit how will you discern if they have good intentions or bad?? viking

11-02-2009, 09:08 PM	#9
mntruthseeker Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,482	Re: False Flag UFO attack...True of False? I say FALSE there will be no alien attack. They programmed our minds to have these thoughts and only WE can change them So when people say they are writing their own realities...........that is part of it. erase that program and put in your new one that doesnt include fear I hope that makes sense to us because I know it took me awhile to "catch" on about changing my reality but I know now and I see it working more and more everyday. It will not happen

11-02-2009, 09:14 PM	#10
TheObserver Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: back in Minnesota Posts: 500	Re: False Flag UFO attack...True of False? The fact that it's an attack would make it false flag in my book.

11-02-2009, 09:39 PM	#12
Peace of mind Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: The uncharted consciousness Posts: 311	Re: False Flag UFO attack...True of False? trust yourself....also, keeping a pure heart will aid in filtering out the impurities. This is one sure way to tell what's real or not. The soul can feel all viberations, everything haves a vibe to it. Last edited by Peace of mind; 11-02-2009 at 09:49 PM.

11-02-2009, 09:49 PM	#13
Fredkc Project Avalon Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Riverside, ca. Posts: 898	Re: False Flag UFO attack...True of False? First, I assume that any government initiated "disclosure" is either: Not good, Fake, Or both. See Werner Von Braun's warning, coupled with the fact that it stands to reason any govt disclosure will take care to hide all the evil cr@p government has done with it, in the past. __________________ "Life IS mystical! It's just that we're used to it" Evil cannot be killed. Only redeemed. Chat us up at: Avalon Chat

11-02-2009, 10:10 PM	#14
mntruthseeker Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,482	Re: False Flag UFO attack...True of False? Very good answer Peace Viking this is relatively new for me and it took me awhile to understand To be honest with you, I no longer believe in all the BS that is coming at us. In my heart I trust that our Universal family is in a much better "frame" of mind so to speak. They do love us and want nothing but good. They already know how to live in harmony. We are part of that and came here to help save our planet. We just need to remember the way it was and believe it with no attachments included I know that ever since I figured out that it was up to me to change the program, I don't have a problem reading these type of threads....... NO NO I'm not saying anything against you, its out there and people are viewing these videos and we are being aware of what is heading towards our family members and love ones that are still sleeping................ I know that "just" reading this is not going to make it happen as it no longer scares me. I'm through with their games............. I know I need to work harder on passing around the cure so to speak negativity can only change your mind if you are not able to stop it from putting fear into your mind. My friends told me once, there is no joy at the end of fear and she is absolutely correct

11-02-2009, 10:13 PM	#15
TRANCOSO Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 964	Re: False Flag UFO attack...True of False? Consider this: Perhaps there ARE alien 'motherships' spinning around our planet, but mainly with the purpose to PREVENT a False Flag attack by TPTB. Mind you, they won't interfere when TPTB start a war under their own (Illuminati/Skull & Bones) flag, or whatever that flag may look like. If there's going to be a 'False Flag' attack, TPTB better think twice about whose Flag their gonna use.

11-02-2009, 10:15 PM	#16
Swanny I dont need a label ! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Shire of Wilt Posts: 2,889	Re: False Flag UFO attack...True of False? First, I think that anything the government says is a lie especially if it is negative If/when aliens do come here they will be so much more advanced than us that if they wanted to take control it would be easy for them to do so. So any government saying we are in a war with them must be full of s'it.

11-02-2009, 10:25 PM	#17
Jnana Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 653	Re: False Flag UFO attack...True of False? A false flag alien attack will be STUPID. It won't take out key military equipment. It won't eliminate our ability to respond. It will hit things that are symbolic, but not important. Anything important will be "coincidentally" out of the way. We will have absurdly good news coverage of it. There will be lots of big explosions. We will shoot down some of the craft. We won't be utterly defeated in the first five minutes. The situation will be desperate, but it will look like we have a fighting chance if we just pull together. It could be a hit and run giving us time to build up a defensive force in response. Stuff like that.

11-02-2009, 10:26 PM	#18
mntruthseeker Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,482	Re: False Flag UFO attack...True of False? [QUOTE=TRANCOSO;183983]Consider this: Perhaps there ARE alien 'motherships' spinning around our planet, but mainly with the purpose to PREVENT a False Flag attack by TPTB. There are space crafts spinning aoround our planet as we speak. There is no doubt in my mind that they are here to help us. The so called evil reptilians supposely broke the treaty and are doing whatever they want now..... OK so what are they waiting for ? fMaybe for TPTB to decide when they should attack ? OH for sure I believe that

11-02-2009, 10:39 PM	#19
TheObserver Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: back in Minnesota Posts: 500	Re: False Flag UFO attack...True of False? Also if it's 'breaking news' on all tv channels it's false flag.

11-02-2009, 10:45 PM	#21
14 Chakras Avalon Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 832	Re: False Flag UFO attack...True of False? How would humanity supposedly have a war with ET's that are tens of thousands of years more advanced than us technologically speaking? They would obviously instantly be able to take over if it was just a battle of technology. However, it is not just a battle of technology. It is a spiritual take over that is planned. If there is some kind of 'attack' of course it is false flag. But why would you assume that it is humans behind the false flag event rather than ET government. In the end, the ET's interfering directly here and not telling you that you can solve your own problems when you connect to your divine source within may very well have their own agenda's, which first and foremost is being your new government and your new leaders. This is your planet. Claim it. Take dominion over it. God within you can solve the problems we apparently face now. Remember you are More than the character you're playing in the matrix. Be.

11-02-2009, 11:01 PM	#22
TheObserver Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: back in Minnesota Posts: 500	Re: False Flag UFO attack...True of False? I'm not saying ETs (or EDs) in gov't wouldn't be involved of course.

11-02-2009, 11:06 PM	#23
mntruthseeker Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,482	Re: False Flag UFO attack...True of False? First off, I have to wonder what has prevented them from doing so for such a very long time already ..............nada thing. So I believe that they are in the minorities. The world is waking up and we are filling the energy field with positive thoughts and bringing forth the light........TPTB is all darkness and the light will blow them out of our space and we will move into 5th where they are unable to survive. They no longer run the program....we are in control of our own. Thats what is different this time.................we make the changes we want. no attack will happen. They can't exist on the dimension we are moving to You see we are worth saving Everyday more and more are waking up, those of us that are "finally" getting it will have to help those that are now just awakening. Its not an easy process at all. The crafts are not just hovering around our planet. They are helping to remove the veil so that our "memories" will start to come back. Its happening more and more everyday. OH yes, we have so much help and they love us dearly. So many of our love ones cheering us on. We just have to listen. IMO anyhow

11-02-2009, 11:22 PM	#24
14 Chakras Avalon Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 832	Re: False Flag UFO attack...True of False? "First off, I have to wonder what has prevented them from doing so for such a very long time already" Consider (From my perspective the reason is): A) TPTB are ET. They already run the show. B) Cosmic law is what prevents them from doing it against your free will. C) You give no credit whatsoever to the infinite, to the Archangels, to the ascended beings of light to put a stop to their shenanigans which is exactly why they haven't been more successful in the late of stirring up trouble. If we are only willing to look for our saviors in 3d and not willing to connect to spiritual truth, it is obvious, we need good ET's to come save us from the bad humans (which are in reality ET themselves). However, when we are willing to search and find in our own heart we will find that spiritual truth is where the power lies, not outside but inside.

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