A different look at G.W.Bush

[lohiaaditya]

Hey,

I respect all your opinions but please I request you to avoid clashing with anyone who does not think similar to you, let it be it wont help anyone. Just post your opinions and constructively build on it. Period.

Well my personal viewpoint, I think that Vladimir Putin is a supposedly good person or a leader. I may be wrong. If you look at the current Georgia situation, and if you have been reading stuff other than CNN and BBC you would know how much the western media is filtering and showing him as a aggressor which he is not. I also understand that every leader of every nation looks at their own benefits, and I think there is nothing wrong with that because if the leader doesnt then no one will. So if Putin is thinking in favour of Russia then I think there is nothing wrong with it, but the difference between him and the other leaders is that, he 'seems' to be supporting the truth and others, which you can clearly see, are spreading false fear and hatred and wrong information. By looking at this you can clearly see that everyone associated with the US admin is lying. I am not referring to the 'people' of US, only the admin. I dont think people anywhere in a majority would ever agree to violence.

Based on these things I feel Putin among the available choices is the most trust worthy leader. Even better, only trust yourself. But for anyone inclined towards politics, I think that Putin would be the most trust worthy choice. Well thats my opinion.
We know that Putin was a KGB, but we do not know why he was there and what he did and was he mind controlled or not. If we say anything it I believe would be speculation at best. But I read an article at lamecherry and I got the link somewhere in this forum about him being mind controlled, anyone aware of lamecherry please read that its a good read. But again that could be wrong and maybe he is actually a very bad person etc, my opinions are only based on what I have come to understand by situations unfolding around us, and by reading all forms of media.

[mkpetrov]

Or Putin is just as bad as Bush? Makes much more sense.

[Phtha]

Originally Posted by coppercondor

id have to agree with white wolf, i think george bush is a hell of alot smarter then he comes off as, i idiocy could possibly be a mask.

I have to disagree. Bush is just plain dumb.

Originally Posted by EchosLament

Why not? His opinion as a leader is just as valid as any other leaders.

That is exactly the reason why not to trust him.

It's the same old game. Own both sides and make them look like enemies, doesn't matter who appears to be the good guy. They both participate in war, that proves to me they are both evil.

[Oiran]

Ronald Reagan on George W. Bush: "A moment I've been dreading. George brought his ne're-do-well son around this morning and asked me to find the kid a job. Not the political one who lives in Florida. The one who hangs around here all the time looking shiftless. This so-called kid is already almost 40 and has never had a real job. Maybe I'll call Kinsley over at The New Republic and see if they'll hire him as a contributing editor or something. That looks like easy work."

Taken from, "REAGAN DIARIES."
http://www.matrixmasters.com/blog/bu...-george-w.html

[sehnsuchtben]

Originally Posted by lohiaaditya

I have realized that how much ever you delve into any situation, it puts forth more questions than answers. We have been thinking and hating George Bush but in the latest interview with Putin (Rense) he says that Bush by himself is a man of integrity but his courtiers are not. They badly advise him. They dont let him make the decisions. This has forced me to think about Bush from a different light. Some people trust Putin and we understand that this coming from his mouth has to be something meaningful. Well everybody would agree Putin isnt a fool. So lets talk about George Bush and why he might be innocent or for that matter a culprit.

Its not to brand him an innocent or a culprit that I have opened this thread, its only to get a better idea of the situation and the person everyone so loves to criticize, maybe he doesnt deserve it. So there is no harm looking at it from a different perspective.

Hey dude,

I have to disagree with you on that one. I don't for one moment buy the idea that Bush is this great guy who naively believed in everything good and right and was led up the garden path by evil handlers. I'm just going off what I've read in Al Martin's book 'The Conspirators', which is a fun read. Martin was involved in the Iran-Contra frauds of the 80s with the Bush boys, Oliver North and the rest of the corrupt wing of the Republican party. He reckons all the Bush boys had a type of fraud that they specialised in - W's was insurance fraud, but he reckons he may have only made between 1-2 million during that time. At one point, he borrowed money from a failing bank to short the stocks of the same bank, make a profit and default on the loan after the bank failed so as to not have to pay back the original loan! He was one of the boys.

On almartinraw.com, he predicted that the presidency under bush would return to the 'bush' form of government: an excuse the ramp up defence spending to pay back generous defence contractors for Republican donations; tax cuts for the wealthy; surplus intended to pay the national debt and social security money stolen by HW would be absorbed by tax cuts. Look much different to things 8 years down the track?

9/11. Two wars. Iran looming. Russia. He's a bad guy. His people are bad people. They don't care about Americans, they care about themselves. Their buddies are getting the bailouts on Wall St. Not on the inner circle, you get cut loose.

Hell, who is Putin to be saying something like that? He's had people killed all over the joint.

[Carol]

Oh, what a wicked web one weaves when one is on the path of power and greed,
then sets out to steal and decieve.

Clearly these men are of the service-to-self type. What are they dedicating their life toward? All we see is repitition of the same ol, same ol.

Of the two, Putin and Bush, Putin is better appreciated by his own people then Bush is by the people in the US.

[Sarahmay]

Putin is a much more trustworthy leader who cares about his nation over the interests of business, oil companies, etc. He has reportedly shut down the illuminati in Russia.

Bush is weak, illogical, mind controlled and totally serves the interests of business, oil companies and illuminati, no matter what the cost to the people in the US.

(Ducks and scurries back into hole)

[coppercondor]

Originally Posted by Phtha

I have to disagree. Bush is just plain dumb.




That is exactly the reason why not to trust him.

It's the same old game. Own both sides and make them look like enemies, doesn't matter who appears to be the good guy. They both participate in war, that proves to me they are both evil.

touche touche, (if thats how its spelled) he does seem overly stupid at sometimes lol i love the pick