Reincarnation/Timeline Question

[Chris1617]

Originally Posted by Gnosis5

Hi, Chris, ....

So far, we have not seen any truly benevolent beings in the between lives and I think it is a "cr_p shoot" whether we are evolving or devolving. Perhaps we have to devolve before we can evolve.

When I experienced the transformation, Thunderous Silence, Mythic Death, Satori, Samadhi -- call it what you will -- that I mention in the Appendix to "Chamber 6 Paper" (http://www.wingmakers.com/products2.html) on WingMakers Chamber 6 Painting I had to change all my ideas about death and the afterlife. I used to think much as you appear to. There are so few sources out there that talk about it in any way that correlates to my experience. In fact the only two I've found so far that do are Billy Meier and the WingMakers/Lyricus, though the latter still say very little actually about death, between lives and reincarnating -- it is implied more within the WMs artwork and philosophies rather than articulated in words.

It may be a cr-p shoot if you pick anyone at random to see whether that person is progressing or regressing but if someone is attempting to progress you can be pretty sure they are in some way or another at least as far as they are able, and who can do more than that. It is not that the personality evolves so much as the spirit; the personality lives and dies. It serves spirit and Source in evolution or it does not. The spirit evolves via the personalities that it houses throughout its evolution. The personality has only one short lifespan in which to evolve; spirit has a near eternity.

I've had to revise my ideas of families coming together again in other lives -- a popular interpretation made more so by writers like Shirley Maclaine, whose books I nonetheless enjoyed. It is not so much the physical personalities as these are so dependent on the parental DNA and genes, as it is a spiritual family, the spirit personalities of which are forever evolving and growing, and IMO are merely rudimentary at present. These spirit "identities" or "individuals" may come together but the personalities they express through will depend upon: inherited traits from the new physical DNA and genetics; environment and upbringing, including experiences; and influences spirit may have on these, which will depend upon how receptive the personality is to the promptings, ideas, inspirations, frequencies, and "nudging" of spirit.

There are beings on other levels, but between lives there are no people, which may be why you "have not seen any truly benevolent beings in the between lives". The earth personalities die at death. The consciousness remains for a while as it is absorbed and integrated into spirit, but it would IMO be in error to refer to this as a personality.

I know Sylvia Browne and a myriad of others would disagree, and I used to share their views, but I must be true to the reality I experienced. Death is different, and when you think about it it is also logically so. Why would a personality survive death only to disappear upon reincarnation? We know the new life is inherited from the new parents and their DNA and genetics. Science quite categorically has proven it so. Even the Buddha said each personality is quite different in the next incarnation. This always left me wondering, "What is it then that reincarnates?" And it is: the spirit, individuated spirit.

It is very natural for human beings to think of life after death as a continuation of themselves in some form, but every person will surely die and end, and the spirit will house a completely different personality next time. The closest we can come to reincarnating again is to ally ourselves with our individuated spirit as far as possible and in that reincarnate; but the human being always tends to imagine this as more like herself/himself than spirit because we are so removed from spirit which is essentially an indescribable integrated frequency of love, knowledge, intelligence, wisdom, goodness etc which is reflected in humanity.

My spirit, for example, upon my death will integrate all my experiences into its frequency: all the experiences, all the knowledge, all the thoughts, actions and interests will all be noted and integrated, though it will only "take" that which furthers its evolution. All else is so much fluff that is just left (what I had for breakfast six weeks ago, unless that was somehow very significant, which I don't recall it was). This will all be added to its storehouse from all its previous incarnations that are already thoroughly integrated into an inviolable whole. When this process of my integration into my individuated spirit is complete the spirit's next incarnation can begin. "I" in as much as "I" exist -- and it will not be as a personality -- will just be another integrated component of the individuated spirit as it progresses along its evolutionary path. In a future incarnation spirit may provide the usage of any of its aspects from its last life (mine) or any aspect or aspects of any life before that for the new personality in order for spirit to further develop; it is, however, more likely to do this in a completely integrated fashion, rather than in terms of specific lifetimes. It has, after all, been thoroughly integrated into a coherent whole, assuming it had the necessary time to assimilate everything, which is rarely the case with our intensely overpopulated world continually calling on spirits to incarnate into new life forms ASAP.

Hubby's between lives experiences that we have seen so far is that he sometimes is guided to a body, or some compulsion causes him to sense out a suitable female to be his mother.

So far, everyone in my immediate family, including my hubby, have been with me many lifetimes. It seems to me at this time that we tune into each other's wavelengths and that there is some unfinished business.

This would IMO be your husband's individuated spirit rather than your husband. Again IMO it would be the spirit's wavelengths rather than the families; and the "unfinished business" of things unresolved and yet to be resolved will need to be worked on in future lives if not resolved in the current one, but for spirit the specific people involved are not important once they have died. For the specific people are all dead and gone and no longer exist. It is the resolution of issues, thoughts, ideas, and experiences that are necessary for spirits evolution, and these can -- and will -- come up again with quite different people for resolution so the spirit can evolve ever closer to oneness with Source itself.

If I have time I will post a thread on WingMakers Transformation.

Very nice talking with you Gnosis5.

Chris