233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine

lucrum · 01-16-2010, 01:28 PM

I've spent some time now reading through the 4 pages on this thread, I've taken note of websites linked to, comments made and finally I spent some time looking into the report from the Ukrainian Ministry of Health.

From my search, it seems that most Ukrainian news agencies do not report severe cases of any epidemic flu or any other decease at this point.

The Ukrainian Ministry of Health DO confirm the numbers posted, but they do not reflect in any way the seriousness portraid here.

The links to www.recombinomics.com, sent me further to http://fluboard.rhizalabs.com/forum/...474&start=2760 which has an ongoing heated debate over the seriousness of these reports. However, as expected, Dr. Niman (the founder of Recombinomics) is the main spokesman for the severity of this case, which to me seems a little narrowminded and hard to read.

The naysayers or skeptics if you will, on the flutracker forum, makes valid points towards both the news agencies IN Ukraine not mentioning this AND every day blogs from everyday life also seems to not mention this supposed severe health issue as well.
Examples given was:

http://blog.kievukraine.info/
http://greetings-from-ukraine.blogspot.com/
http://fylliska.blogspot.com/
http://blogs.fco.gov.uk/roller/turnerenglish/

So what does all this mean?

I honestly don't know what it means, but it LOOKS to me that this is still a political game and a huge scaretactic.

I will not dismiss your claims or your reasons for writing them here on Avalon, timetotellthetruth, but I must at least to a certain degree aknowledge the assumed fact that no one else than Dr. Niman + followers and the figurative reports of the Ukrainian Ministry of Health sees the severity in this.

Perhaps it's everyone else being naive, or perhaps it is because it isn't that severe and it isn't that abnormal as one could think it is.

So to wrap it up from my part:
Allthough there might be something in your claims here, the general public consensus seems to be that it is not.

I'll certainly keep the information in the back of my head though, as I do with everything I hear, read or see

01-16-2010, 01:28 PM	#11
lucrum Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Norway Posts: 209	Re: 233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine I've spent some time now reading through the 4 pages on this thread, I've taken note of websites linked to, comments made and finally I spent some time looking into the report from the Ukrainian Ministry of Health. From my search, it seems that most Ukrainian news agencies do not report severe cases of any epidemic flu or any other decease at this point. The Ukrainian Ministry of Health DO confirm the numbers posted, but they do not reflect in any way the seriousness portraid here. The links to www.recombinomics.com, sent me further to http://fluboard.rhizalabs.com/forum/...474&start=2760 which has an ongoing heated debate over the seriousness of these reports. However, as expected, Dr. Niman (the founder of Recombinomics) is the main spokesman for the severity of this case, which to me seems a little narrowminded and hard to read. The naysayers or skeptics if you will, on the flutracker forum, makes valid points towards both the news agencies IN Ukraine not mentioning this AND every day blogs from everyday life also seems to not mention this supposed severe health issue as well. Examples given was: http://blog.kievukraine.info/ http://greetings-from-ukraine.blogspot.com/ http://fylliska.blogspot.com/ http://blogs.fco.gov.uk/roller/turnerenglish/ So what does all this mean? I honestly don't know what it means, but it LOOKS to me that this is still a political game and a huge scaretactic. I will not dismiss your claims or your reasons for writing them here on Avalon, timetotellthetruth, but I must at least to a certain degree aknowledge the assumed fact that no one else than Dr. Niman + followers and the figurative reports of the Ukrainian Ministry of Health sees the severity in this. Perhaps it's everyone else being naive, or perhaps it is because it isn't that severe and it isn't that abnormal as one could think it is. So to wrap it up from my part: Allthough there might be something in your claims here, the general public consensus seems to be that it is not. I'll certainly keep the information in the back of my head though, as I do with everything I hear, read or see