Israel 'prepared to attack' Iran nuclear plants

[Antaletriangle]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle5284173.ece

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...lting-U-S.html mail online.

December 4, 2008

Israel is drawing up plans to attack Iran's nuclear facilities and is prepared to launch a strike without backing from the US, it has been reported.

Officials in the Israeli Defence Ministry told the Jerusalem Post that while they prefer to act in consultation with the US, they were preparing plans that would allow them to act in isolation.

"It is always better to coordinate," a senior Defence Ministry official told the newspaper. "But we are also preparing options that do not include coordination."

However defence officials played down the reports today, telling The Times that an attack by Israeli forces alone would probably fail to take out all of Iran’s nuclear facilities, which experts say are scattered across several sites, some deep underground.

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“We could not risk an operation which would only partially succeed," one defence official told The Times.

"That would leave us open to a nuclear attack from Iran’s remaining weapons stock. Israel would likely need the support, the backing, of forces from a Western ally to successfully carry out the operation,” he said.

A senior Israeli official quotes in the Jerusalem Post said that while it would be difficult, it would not be impossible to launch a strike against Iran without permission from the US.

"There are a wide range of risks one takes when embarking on such an operation," a senior Israeli official was quoted as saying.

The US Airforce controls the Iraqi airspace Israel's jets would have to cross on a bombing mission and access to codes from the Americans, would “significantly improve” Israel’s chances of a successful strike on Iran, an official told The Times.

He added that because the Iranians have been moving the bunkers deep underground, sophisticated weaponry would be needed to successfully destroy the facilities.

Responding to reports that Israel would use low-yield nuclear “bunker-busters”, the official said the method was largely speculative and unreliable.

Ehud Olmert, the Israeli prime minister, has reportedly asked the US for a green light to attack Iranian facilities as recently as May.

According to Israeli officials, the US denied the request, although it outfitted Israel with the X-band radar system which would shave several crucial minutes off Israel’s reaction time to an Iranian missile launch, and allow the United States to oversee Israel’s airspace.

“There is always the option of Israel going it alone. It just does not seem like a good option at present time,” an Israeli MP told the Times.

There are three central locations where experts believe Iranian facilities are producing goods for nuclear weapons.

Israeli officials named these sites as: Natanz, where thousands of centrifuges produce enriched uranium; Isfahan, where 250 tons of gas are stores in tunnels; and Arak, where a heavy water reactor produces plutonium.

Israeli officials said they were heartened that international sanctions on Iran were having an effect, but did not feel they were enough to stop Tehran’s nuclear ambitions.

The most recent Israeli intelligence reports estimate that Iran will have enough enriched uranium for a nuclear weapon in late 2009, barring any interruptions in its programme.

"There is still time and there is no need to rush into an operation right now," another Israeli official said. "The regime there is already falling apart and will likely no longer be in power 10 years from now."

On Monday, Teheran dismissed the possibility of an Israeli strike, saying it didn't take Israel seriously.

"We think that regional and international developments and the complicated situation faced by Israel itself will not allow it to launch military strikes against other countries," Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Hassan Qashqavi told reporters in Teheran, adding that "Israel makes threats to promote its psychological and media warfare.

Some Israeli security officials fear that the Iranian retaliation for a strike on its facilities could include a large-scale missile attack on Israel from several Iranian allies, disruption of oil supplies to the West, and terror attacks against Jewish targets around the world.

[Myra]

Not very smart for Israel to do this, but then again that's nothing new.

[feeler]

Originally Posted by Myra

Not very smart for Israel to do this, but then again that's nothing new.

Nothing new at all...

Speaking of nothing new, the last thing I expect is to see no backing from the U.S.

Who are they fooling?

-feeler

[Squeptikal]

Originally Posted by feeler

Nothing new at all...

Speaking of nothing new, the last thing I expect is to see no backing from the U.S.

Who are they fooling?

-feeler

Don't underestimate the power of the NWO force. The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of this force.

AIPAC is a very strong influence and will ultimately succeed in bringing about America's demise unless we make people aware of the threat that this unelected power group poses to our citizenry.

We, as Americans, have been forced to take on the billionaires' bad debts and way exceed our capacity to wage war abroad. The average person here is completely unaware of the nature of these forces and through false media-inspired nationalistic hatred quite willing to kill people in other countries to avoid a false terror threat.

This consistent dumbed-down media effect seems to be wearing thin and more people are becoming aware that they've been lied to - BIGTIME!

We can all help each other by gently steering the awareness of people towards what is obvious and unifying; our own survival. Don't try for immediate conversions, but sow the seeds of knowledge and let the roots of understanding take hold in each consciousness you encounter. A rising tide lifts all goats.

Free your mind, and, well, you know the rest.

[borrasca2012]

...old message....

[Myra]

Originally Posted by Squeptikal

Don't underestimate the power of the NWO force. The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of this force.

AIPAC is a very strong influence and will ultimately succeed in bringing about America's demise unless we make people aware of the threat that this unelected power group poses to our citizenry. ....

Part of this is that people need to be aware that the Zionist Jews are presently trying to make dangerously strict laws against questioning or challenging anything and everything that they do. They want such people arrested and jailed as you would be labled "Anti-Sematic" for disagreeing with them!

And then again, that's nothing new either.

[joe2288]

if they do this it means all out war and to be quite honest id rather this not

happen considering id probly be sent to fight and i really dont wann go fight a

world war but if i have let it be war haha

[Northern Boy]

Originally Posted by joe2288

if they do this it means all out war and to be quite honest id rather this not

happen considering id probly be sent to fight and i really dont wann go fight a

world war but if i have let it be war haha

Then Just don`t go u wont be the first

[oldpaganfreak]

right on, northern boy.
joe, you'd be welcome in my guesthouse. you wouldn't be the first draft dodger to hide out in the peace country. seems appropriate somehow.

[Celtic_Man]

Originally Posted by feeler

Nothing new at all...

Speaking of nothing new, the last thing I expect is to see no backing from the U.S.

Who are they fooling?

-feeler

Notice no one did a damn thing when Kim in North Korea was flinging nukes and missiles around during his tests. Or allowing Pakistan, a muslim nation which could go fundamentalist at any time to retain a substantial nuclear arsenal.

[Operator]

Originally Posted by Celtic_Man

Notice no did a damn thing when Kim in North Korea was flinging nukes and missiles around during his tests. Or allowing Pakistan, a muslim nation which could go fundamentalist at any time to retain a substantial nuclear arsenal.

Hi,

US military is in Iraq not for oil alone ... I was told.
On an old part of the homepage of Project Camelot (now moved to archive) Dan Burisch mentioned this:

Genesis 3:24 (V) "eiecitque Adam et conlocavit ante paradisum voluptatis cherubin et flammeum gladium atque versatilem ad custodiendam viam ligni vitae"

Translated in English (http://www.biblegateway.com) it says:

Genesis 3:24 (New Living Translation)

24 After sending them out, the Lord God stationed mighty cherubim to the east of the Garden of Eden. And he placed a flaming sword that flashed back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.

Now if Iraq is considered to be the ancient area of the garden of Eden and Iran is east to it ....

What special reason could they have to engage in Iran in the coming years ?

Cheers

[burgundia]

I just hope that Krzysztof Jackowski's recent words will not come true. He has said that the war is a matter of months and that everything is already in motion. However..remember about our collective consciousness and do not give up hope for a better future.

[Helvetic]

Its realy on the edge right now. I hope this is going good for us all.

[Jack]

An interesting notion when you take into consideration that Russia has already vowed to back Iran if such an attack were to be carried out.

I'll be keeping an eye on this one.

[dagon]

Originally Posted by Operator

Hi,

US military is in Iraq not for oil alone ... I was told.
On an old part of the homepage of Project Camelot (now moved to archive) Dan Burisch mentioned this:

Genesis 3:24 (V) "eiecitque Adam et conlocavit ante paradisum voluptatis cherubin et flammeum gladium atque versatilem ad custodiendam viam ligni vitae"

Translated in English (http://www.biblegateway.com) it says:

Genesis 3:24 (New Living Translation)

24 After sending them out, the Lord God stationed mighty cherubim to the east of the Garden of Eden. And he placed a flaming sword that flashed back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.

Now if Iraq is considered to be the ancient area of the garden of Eden and Iran is east to it ....

What special reason could they have to engage in Iran in the coming years ?

Cheers

two words. Zecharia Sitchin.
these have been my thoughts the whole time.
as well as why we wiped out the native american culture here in america. control of the ancient spiritual teachings. the native americans of the time were willing to share there land. even helped us. I always thought thanksgiving was a warped holiday. but after all we did win the war. this one is no different.

[Northern Boy]

Originally Posted by dagon

two words. Zecharia Sitchin.
these have been my thoughts the whole time.
as well as why we wiped out the native american culture here in america. control of the ancient spiritual teachings. the native americans of the time were willing to share there land. even helped us. I always thought thanksgiving was a warped holiday. but after all we did win the war. this one is no different.

I feel the same way u do these people`s have been wronged in a big way we should have adopted there way of life instaed

[Antaletriangle]

I can't believe the gall of Bush=i'm sure most people are now aware that 9/11 was an inside job and he says this:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/worldN...4B44S120081205
Fri Dec 5, 2008 5:18pm GMT


Tabassum Zakaria

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President George W. Bush said on Friday that Iran's nuclear program remained a threat to peace and the United States would not allow Tehran to develop an atomic weapon.

The West has offered Iran diplomatic and economic incentives to suspend uranium enrichment and to support a civilian nuclear power program, Bush said in a speech he planned to give to the Saban Forum later in the day.

"While Iran has not accepted these offers, we have made our bottom line clear: For the safety of our people and the peace of the world, America will not allow Iran to develop a nuclear weapon," Bush said in the speech released by the White House.

Amid hopeful signs of political, economic and social reforms advancing in the Middle East, serious challenges remain, Bush said.

"Iran and Syria continue to sponsor terror, Iran's uranium enrichment remains a major threat to peace, and many in the region still live under oppression," he said.

Bush defended his decision to go to war against Iraq in March 2003 and topple Saddam Hussein, saying that after the September 11, 2001, attacks the United States could not risk the threat Baghdad posed at that time.

"It is true, as I have said many times, that Saddam Hussein was not connected to the 9/11 attacks," Bush said.

But after nearly 3,000 people died in the September 11 attacks, the United States had to decide whether it could tolerate an enemy that supported terrorism and was believed to have weapons of mass destruction, and found "this was a risk we could not afford to take."
Weapons of mass destruction were never found in Iraq after the U.S.-led invasion, and this is considered a major intelligence failure. Bush in a recent television interview said the faulty intelligence on Iraq was the biggest regret of his presidency.

"When Saddam's regime fell, we refused to take the easy option and install a friendly strongman in his place," Bush said. "Even though it required enormous sacrifice, we stood by the Iraqi people as they elected their own leaders and built a young democracy."

He acknowledged that efforts have not always gone according to plan and sometimes fell short, saying "the fight in Iraq has been longer and more costly than expected."

[Northern Boy]

Originally Posted by Myra

Not very smart for Israel to do this, but then again that's nothing new.

who ever said they were smart, they are the only terrorist organization allowed to possess WMD other than the U.S.

[TickTockTickTock]

Originally Posted by Northern Boy

who ever said they were smart, they are the only terrorist organization allowed to possess WMD other than the U.S.

IDF Girl. Pretty, isn't she?

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by TickTockTickTock

IDF Girl. Pretty, isn't she?

She'd be much prettier if her one eye wasn't so big.

[TickTockTickTock]

Originally Posted by Myra

Not very smart for Israel to do this, but then again that's nothing new.

The minute that Iran has a deliverable nuclear weapon they will deploy it against Israel, so I think a surgical strike would be very smart.

What would you do?

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by TickTockTickTock

The minute that Iran has a deliverable nuclear weapon they will deploy it against Israel, so I think a surgical strike would be very smart.

What would you do?

I might try to do my best to rise above polarized thinking, where good and bad are eternally opposed, and the world exists in some black and white nightmare.

What better way to remain hidden than to keep those masses actively afraid of each other and opposed to one another to the point of never having the attention free to examine that string they are dangling from?

I somehow doubt that a school teacher in Israel has any real quarrel with an Iranian shop keeper. Why should either be "burned"?

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by Myra

Not very smart for Israel to do this, but then again that's nothing new.

Yeah I'm getting sick of this game that they're playing.

Someone should take the toys away from the big babies because they've clearly shown that their only answer to violence against them is to counter with more violence.

[TickTockTickTock]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

Yeah I'm getting sick of this game that they're playing.

Someone should take the toys away from the big babies because they've clearly shown that their only answer to violence against them is to counter with more violence.

What would you do?

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by TickTockTickTock

What would you do?

For starters, I would listen to the UN and stop beating the drums of war. Didn't they say that Iran had stopped enriching uranium years ago?

Israel gets no sympathy from me and that is the same for other countries in that region.