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Old 09-09-2008, 07:16 PM   #1
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I'm curious of everyone's opinion on the Chemtrail phenomena? If it is real, why are the spraying and for what purposes?





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Old 09-09-2008, 07:21 PM   #2
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Hi Questiny

Have been watching the trails for some time now though I wouldn't trust the picture you posted to be what it appears to be.

If the spraying is being done with a purpose, I'd suppose that the intention is weather control or population control.

However, I'm not 100% convinced that they are not just persistent contrails.

Hope I've helped!

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p.s. Cute avatar by the way, is that you?
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Old 09-09-2008, 07:29 PM   #3
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I have to agree with you peacelovinman, these chemtrails are definately doing something.
probably poisoning the atmosphere and dumbing us down with these strange viruses that seem be popping up all over now you have to think don't you.
They put the fear out of disease then they want you to have yet another innoculation, it's all rubbish.
Years ago you never see these chemtrails why now?
There are definatley up to something that's for sure
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Old 09-09-2008, 07:29 PM   #4
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I must say, that is one interesting photograph you have posted there. Where by chance did you find that Questiny?
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Old 09-09-2008, 07:54 PM   #5
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Hi Questiny
However, I'm not 100% convinced that they are not just persistent contrails.
i am quite certain they are not persistent contrails. i have spent many days on top of 6000 ft peaks taking pictures and watching these planes race back and forth across the sky, i have seen them turn around for the next 'line', and most of the time there are at least 2-3 planes working the same area. they fly at different altitudes, and often put one layer right on top of the other.

i am not sure why any passenger plane would be doing these kinds of manuevers, so contrails seem a bit naive. there is no reason for the flight patterns, as they are often not the usual routes passenger planes take.

i have called my city commissioners as well as the local airport to find out WHY these planes are flying at the low altitudes they are, why are they racing back and forth. the airport denies their existence, so that right there tells me that something is not at all in the highest or best good of the people on the ground. the commissioners i have contacted have yet to return any of my messages about this one issue, where all the other things i inquire about seem to get pretty fast responses.

this has been going on for over 10 years now, and people literally have seen this stuff in the atmosphere for so long that they think it is normal. this is part of the problem.

as with all other issues in our social consciousness, knowledge and truth is at the core of our collective need.

the cocktail they are spraying, based on independent testing, has been quite alarming. barium salt, aluminum oxide, plasma, nano virus', molds and fungus' are all quite a wallop to a any living organisms cellular mass.

if these are accurate results, then the evidence is pretty solid that the cocktail is designed to first place limitations on the functionality of our brain by limiting the way it is able to perform. both barium and aluminum are heavy metals and both are destructive to the central nervous system.

everything else is designed to take advantage of the decrease of needed hormones that the brain provides to the cellular mass, thus further debilitating the immune system. the body stays in a mode of repair due to the need to try and get it out of the body mass, but these chemicals actually hinder that process. and that is why so many people now have auto immune diseases, their immune systems are over taxed from the environmental toxins.

now add fluoride in the water to that mix, and you will see that the chemical reactions that are occurring in the body are literally destroying healthy minds and bodies, the immune system, and having staggering effects on the DNA and the information that is created when it replicates.

it is definitely steeped in karma no matter how you look at it.
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Old 09-09-2008, 08:17 PM   #6
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I like the safety tape on the hose. Don't want anyone getting hurt when were trying to kill everyone...with CHEMTRAILS! What a mess.
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Old 09-09-2008, 09:58 PM   #7
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i dont know where he got the photo but i did see that photo with some other photos of "the insides of a chemtrail sprayer" on a vdeo on youtube once.

as for the trails, i've read about them a ton. i really like to say i only fully believe things that i can prove without a shadow of a doubt. I've heard all the theories and everything else on what they are and why they're doing it and have a few theories of my own, outside of the normal "weather control" explanation.

what i can say for certain is that they exist. there's something going on where jets are spraying something in the atmosphere and it seems to be happening all over the world right now. or at least in alot of places. this is being done without our consent or knowledge. that is all i know for sure.

however, this summer i spent most of it outside in a wide valley working on ground crops there. there were several days where there was heavy spraying and i saw some very interesting and odd cloud formations and cloud behavior shortly after the spraying. that would make me lean to think that it has a haarp or weather control purpose. but i dont know this for certain. i also believe that it may have more than one purpose. another thing i was thinking it might be is to help create an atmosphere that will allow holographic projections. this ties in with dr deagles comments on the military industrial complex working on an exact digital replica of the planet. to play out a kind of video game movie false flag alien invasion maybe? i dunno....there are a few other testimonies that point ot this being possibility.

however, there is so much disinformation out there. you never know what is the truth and what is planted ideas. like i said, all i know is that there is spraying going on, for sure. i am one hundred and ten percent convinced.
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Old 09-09-2008, 10:03 PM   #8
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My husband is in the jet business. I'll have him look at this photo and see if he is aware of anything that might be relevant
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Old 09-09-2008, 10:24 PM   #9
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The photo is NOT of a chemtrails plane.

It is the photo of a jetcraft about to undergo inertial testing. The barrels are full of water, and a type of oil. As the jet manuvers the computers analys the internial effects on the fluids. Looks scary though doesn't it?
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Old 09-10-2008, 12:30 AM   #10
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My husband concurs. It is flight test aircraft due to all the flgiht test equipment in racks in the back of the plane. He has had flight test equipment installed in aircraft before so it is familiar to him.
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It is the photo of a jetcraft about to undergo inertial testing. The barrels are full of water, and a type of oil. As the jet manuvers the computers analys the internial effects on the fluids. Looks scary though doesn't it?
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Old 09-10-2008, 12:35 AM   #11
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the planes spraying round here at 40 to 50 a day from july all the way to spetemebr were small propp, white unmarked planes. see my pics on my profile.. everyone i know complained of sore throat tickly cough and tiredness.. i suffered these effects also. baruim and aluminium as far as i can gather is what it in the uk version of these all day long lasting trails.
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Old 09-10-2008, 01:08 AM   #12
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100% Real. We are being sprayed like bugs. I get a bad cough when they spray the sky heavy. I have called my congressman. Build a chemtrailbuster They Work.
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Old 09-13-2008, 03:28 AM   #13
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100% Real. We are being sprayed like bugs. I get a bad cough when they spray the sky heavy. I have called my congressman. Build a chemtrailbuster They Work.
Hey would you point me to directions for a chemtrailbuster.
Thanks
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Old 09-13-2008, 03:45 AM   #14
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From what I have looked at there was enough to convince me that there is a very high probability they are real. What, when, where , and why is still full of possibilities.
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Old 09-13-2008, 04:22 AM   #15
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Old 09-13-2008, 04:45 AM   #16
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Here in Australis its openly called cloud seeding.
read between the lines of these sites..
its totally ok for economic reasons oh and of course for rain.. its been happening here since 1947..
I dont believe they are using silver either.. more like Aluminium..
I read somewhere that the residues are impacting the eco system and are traceable. So common sense prevails in all our experiences.

Break out the Chemtrailbusters



Cloud seeding In the Snowy
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...22/2343417.htm
http://www.weatherzone.com.au/news/n...mountains/9746
http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/basic/eve...t31Jan2007.pdf
http://www.thredbo.com.au/weather-an...ud-seeding.asp
Its affects may Linger
http://www.publish.csiro.au/?act=vie..._id=EC45p3.pdf
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Old 09-10-2008, 01:37 AM   #17
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Yes, they are real. The question is do they contain more than just jet fuel by products?

Congress should definitely hold hearings on the jet pollution, if nothing else.

The lack of those hearings is "Tell"ing.


They did have hearings on it (in 2001) however , not many people sit and watch the Senate and House hearings. Not to mention that all this happens when most people are at work and wouldn't be able to see it anyway. Unfortunately, national media doesn't think these types of topics are important enough to cover.

http://www.carnicom.com/hr2977.htm

http://www.rense.com/general19/ex.htm

http://www.carnicom.com/conright.htm

Thats why I'm using orgone devices, chembusters (another type of orgone) and pyrimids to either eliminate the chemtrails that are in my area or blow/push them away depending on how heavy/dense they are.

Thought I'd share.

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Old 09-10-2008, 02:24 AM   #18
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Hello everyone....this if my first post and I thought I might be able to offer some interesting info on this topic. My step brother works for the USAF and he has personally been involved in flying the planes spraying these "Chemtrails"... He was told by his superior officers that the purpose of the spraying is to "stop global warming"....

I have spent a great deal of time recording contrails and chemtrails then comparing the footage, and I am currently editing a video that will hopefully shed some light on the subject.

In the mean time, I advise you to simply set out some petree dishes (saucers, etc.), collect some samples, and observe what ends up in your samples...if you've got some time and a little cash, you could even get them analyzed by a lab. Try the first dish on a clear day, then the second on a day when you see plenty of chemtrail cover....you'll soon see for yourself.
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Hello everyone....this if my first post and I thought I might be able to offer some interesting info on this topic. My step brother works for the USAF and he has personally been involved in flying the planes spraying these "Chemtrails"... He was told by his superior officers that the purpose of the spraying is to "stop global warming"....

I have spent a great deal of time recording contrails and chemtrails then comparing the footage, and I am currently editing a video that will hopefully shed some light on the subject.

In the mean time, I advise you to simply set out some petree dishes (saucers, etc.), collect some samples, and observe what ends up in your samples...if you've got some time and a little cash, you could even get them analyzed by a lab. Try the first dish on a clear day, then the second on a day when you see plenty of chemtrail cover....you'll soon see for yourself.
Still, now that the Sunspots have disappeared, the cooling will begin.

Why have they not ceased?

In my location, this was a very cool Summer. Dry in the last 2 months, but cool.

I have noticed the last 2-3 Summers have been quite cool. Compared to the previous 7 years, which were scorching hot.
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Old 09-10-2008, 05:25 PM   #20
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I have put my some chemtrail pics in my album on my profile if anyone would like to check them out. This video was taken the morning after the UK earthquake in February of this year. The skies on the previous day were just as full of chemtrails more so actually. It made me wonder if there wasn't a connection? something more to this quake than what we we're told. Chemtrails=HAARP=Earthquake, I don't know? but I'm sure this is no mere coincidence. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=smKLV25xM-g

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Old 09-10-2008, 06:04 PM   #21
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I have put my some chemtrail pics in my album on my profile if anyone would like to check them out. This video was taken the morning after the UK earthquake in February of this year. The skies on the previous day were just as full of chemtrails more so actually. It made me wonder if there wasn't a connection? something more to this quake than what we we're told. Chemtrails=HAARP=Earthquake, I don't know? but I'm sure this is no mere coincidence. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=smKLV25xM-g

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Great post thank you! I like the poem.

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Great post thank you! I like the poem.
Hi Questiny, great thread you started. I have a real bee in my bonnet when it comes to chemtrails, because they are there in front of your face and people still wont accept their reality. Even though the MOD here in the UK admitted to a Guardian journalist that they had done it in the past, but couldn't possibly comment on ongoing operations? I used to photograph them daily, but it's become such the norm spraying everyday and night (when I suspect the more intense spraying is carried out) I haven't bothered for a while.

I have noticed however, that the spraying operations over the last couple of months are being carried out at higher and higher altitudes. Thank you for your kind words regarding my poem by the way. There's more like that on my site if you'd like to read more from Tales from the Apocalypse

Peace & Blessings
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Hello everyone....this if my first post and I thought I might be able to offer some interesting info on this topic. My step brother works for the USAF and he has personally been involved in flying the planes spraying these "Chemtrails"... He was told by his superior officers that the purpose of the spraying is to "stop global warming"....

I have spent a great deal of time recording contrails and chemtrails then comparing the footage, and I am currently editing a video that will hopefully shed some light on the subject.

In the mean time, I advise you to simply set out some petree dishes (saucers, etc.), collect some samples, and observe what ends up in your samples...if you've got some time and a little cash, you could even get them analyzed by a lab. Try the first dish on a clear day, then the second on a day when you see plenty of chemtrail cover....you'll soon see for yourself.
This is the official response. What is promising is that they admit to the spraying. Thank you for posting this.
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Hello everyone....this if my first post..
Welcome =)

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My step brother works for the USAF and he has personally been involved in flying the planes spraying these "Chemtrails"... He was told by his superior officers that the purpose of the spraying is to "stop global warming"....
I suspect that would have to be a standard line spun to the crews manning these planes however if that was so and the spraying was to our benefit then I would expect the MOD to come forward and tell the populations that this is what we are doing and why we are doing it. Thier failure to do so speaks volumes.
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Old 09-10-2008, 03:01 AM   #25
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There is absolutely no doubt in my mind and soul that these are not only real, but are a very deliberate, pre-planned, and very diabotical effort on the part of a very large and powerful group. I have been observing and following this phenomena for over ten years in Arizona as well as other parts of our country...it exists elsewhere in our world as well. Dianne Harvey, an absolutely superb writer from Sedona did an excellent job of reporting on this subject and many others on Rense.com before she disappeared from public view. (Bless you, Dianne, wherever you are now) Her articles from Rense can still be found by using her name on search engines. Contrails disappear within minutes....chemtrails spread their sickening products which have been well reported on out in long lasting "cloud" cover....which drifts down covering plant, animal, insect, and human life. I have been given insight that this atrocious "film" has contributed to the demise of our forests...and well as covering the delicate and gossamer wings of our bees, dragonflies, and butterfly wings. Hive disorder collapse? How about outright extermination? My "logical" mind can immediately compute the costs of such an elaborate operation...how many millions (billions-trillions) of dollars does it take to send the numbers of planes that criss cross skies days after day worldwide...and my biggest question of all is JUST WHO is funding this mammoth monstrosity???? (Always follow the money) It's always denial, until a few brave souls come forth. Sedona, Arizona has been blanketed by heavy chemtrail spaying for a very long time, as well as many major cities. On November 9th, 2007, mid afternoon, while driving to Cottonwood after an intense day of spraying, the clouds laid in 3 distinctive levels---one below the cloud level, one mountain level, and one ground level....which was so heavy it looked like a forest fire...literally....smoke.....but not. You could see it...you could taste it. Vivid recall on this one...and I knew what it was because I was aware of what was going on from sunrise....continual spraying. You would have to first understand that in Sedona, with the existing wind currents that sweep through this valley on a daily basis--that our skies are a beautiful and clear blue when not "messed with". It truly has occured to me that in these days of reported "population contol" and "probable pandemics" that the wise and aware folk may look to the skies....and wonder why so many of the microbiologists of our world have been so mysteriously with an odds number that is numerically impossible--been taken out. (undeniably been murdered- see Rense.com again on side panels you scroll down.) There have been an incredible amount of newbies to your much needed new site--and they are asking what and how to "discern". Simply stated, discernment means that when some new information enters your awareness realm or auric field, be it through seeing, reading, feeling, or knowing--it rings true or it doesn't. Is it a lie--or is it truth...it is a resonance...a bell ringing... that I (you) need to file this piece of information away for reference...either now...or for a future reference. Go beyond the known five senses...and trust you will be led to growth and truth. Blessings, SedonaStardust
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