What if NOTHING will change?

nivosh · 11-02-2008, 04:51 PM

Hello dear friends.

There is a small but annoying thought that's cycling through my head lately.

What if NOTHING will happen?
What if Obama will get elected as scheduled, the economy will stay the same, no UFO will come to our rescue, 2012 will be just another day?

What if all this Forum and whistle blowers thing is just a fantasy, a dream?

This scares me most of all...
I would like very much your opinions on the matter.

love to you all...

borrasca2012 · 11-02-2008, 05:49 PM

OK for ME .........I AM happy with my LIVE !!!

........... enough to eat, roof over head, and can LIVE MY WAY OF BELIVE,

.....i don"t need ufo"s, aliens or fanatic religion troublemakers.....

POLITIK ,MONEY,RELIGION,JEWS,ALIENS and other troublemakers

CAN LEAVE THE PLANET !!!!!!! .......one way ticket

nivosh · 11-02-2008, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by borrasca2012

POLITIK ,MONEY,RELIGION,JEWS,ALIENS and other troublemakers

I resent this statement personally!

Proletariat · 11-02-2008, 08:23 PM

Well the prophecy DOES say the antichrist would come in the form of an individual who everyone looked up to, and praised and worshiped, which might explain why people are so hysterical over Obama.

deb003 · 11-02-2008, 08:28 PM

Expectations usually lead to dissapointments or even resentments.
I guess one way to help would be to let go of the expectations of anything and just live in the moment.
Easier SAID than actually DONE!!!
I do hope for change.
I'm tired of hearing about destruction and corruption every day.
I guess I will start with changing myself!
But I know what you mean, it can gewt frustrating because there's an expectation there..

freekatz · 11-02-2008, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Proletariat

Well the prophecy DOES say the antichrist would come in the form of an individual who everyone looked up to, and praised and worshiped, which might explain why people are so hysterical over Obama.

For goodness sake! More anti-Obama, there were (and still are) A LOT of people who "look up to , praise and worship" GWB and you couldn't get much closer to the anti-christ then him

Shadowstalker · 11-02-2008, 08:24 PM

I still don't know where folks got the idea that someone or something was to save us, I myself never thought that. I mean I myself always look to other means for research I never even heard of Blossom Goodchild till after i heard Megentapixie and that was in passing at the time. And magenta pixie stated that that if we wanted to be saved, that it would be up to us even with the Oct.14th issue in not so many words, I still think people should look to more then one source.

The change should come from within at all times to start with, not with your neighbor.

borrasca2012 · 11-02-2008, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nivosh

I resent this statement personally!

NO YOU DON"T

u are not so stupid to make war because u think u are the choosen ones....

u are somebody who want to wake up from this dream and make the world

into a better place.......thats why u are here at project camelot...or not ???

U KNOW what i mean..... when i look down there its always fight and

trouble........I AM TIERED of this and hope it will be QUIT there soon !!!!

WE DON"T want WAR on this PLANET !!!!!!!! NOT FOR FOOD

NOT FOR RELIGION, NOT FOR BORDERS,LAND......

WE DON"T NEED THESE WAR-PEOPLE........move......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

weareone · 11-02-2008, 08:52 PM

thinking that god or aliens will come down and save us means you still have the victim attitude. If god comes it comes as an energy not a person. Obama wont change a thing because the external/internal us issues and political infra-structure wont change. I dont think when 2012 happens anything noticable will change, but i do think that when we look back on 2012 from 2022 we will se it as the time things changed. Peace

capreycorn · 11-02-2008, 09:03 PM

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=4_P8S3H3kVw

the above video is a typical sensationalist media oriented scenario..will it happen like this? maybe..or not.

i had the chance to go to china a few days after the "tien an men square massacre".it was the best time to travel through china without other foreigners around. so a week after the massacre i still could see blood on the square..there were some guards staring at my video camera but that was it...it was far less creepy than being stared at by somebody "shady" in manhattan..it was strange how all foreigners left china, to go back to a even creepyer and more dangerous "hometown" in the US or elsewhere. (the media does that to us)
another example..when i visited sri lanka and the philippines, when the whole world saw war going on there..i was really disappointed to not see anything spectacular like in the news at all....ok some skelettons on the side of the road...so what? toombstones in a cemetary look more frightening.
often we have to go searching for "the action" or danger just to get electrocuted by some household appliance in home sweet home.

it really depends where we are or will be and the attitude we have...

isotelesis · 11-03-2008, 12:55 AM

Things are changing, just not how we expect, I think Nibiru/Galactic Alignment/2012 etc. is part of an elaborate disinformation campaign:

http://answers.google.com/answers/th...id/576560.html

However I do believe there is a lot of technology limited to black ops, probably for good reasons, many talents are wasted in pursuit of these chimera.

There are more practical issues to be concerned with, such as public health, transportation, economics, food/water supply, geopolitics, pollution, sustainable development, education, organized crime, and problems of a more systematic nature.

Try fixing those problems which can be solved.

LaRosa · 11-03-2008, 04:12 AM

by Borrasca2012:POLITIK ,MONEY,RELIGION,JEWS,ALIENS and other troublemakers CAN LEAVE THE PLANET !!!!!!! .......one way ticket.

When I supported this comment I lowered to his style. I guess he is against the parasitic type of aliens ignoring there are some that are friendly. The Jews comment is just ignorance and I haven't paid attention to that word in the comment.

Borrasca2012 I believe you are having good intentions, just don't close door to those who might help you one day, may it be an alien or a Jew. A good person can be found everywhere no matter his origin. You would have said Illuminati, you would offend a reader who is one of them but wish to be wisthleblower.
I go more general and I have a wide diversity of friends. One way ticket to... the parasites of the human race! Now you fit inside what you want.

Frank Samuel · 11-04-2008, 08:01 PM

Hey people if your life is not changing constantly especially for the better, then something is terribly wrong. As you evolve , mature, learn, interact with others your world is changing. A positive attitude plays a major role. For others they want out of this world, I want to stay and work hard to make this globe a better place. Whatever your stance never give up on your internal growth.Be happy, celebrate your life live in the NOW. Sure we all hope for a better tomorrow, since I am not a time traveler I cannot predict the future. Is funny to see how many prophets of doom and Gloom swear up and down of the emminent destruction of the earth, the CHOOSEN ONES will be saved. In the meantime I live a happy life, thanking God for every single second of life in this planet. Yes I believe in a better tomorrow for ALL and no I am not a choosen one nor do I want to be if it excludes my love ones. Maybe I am insane in the membrain for wanting to live my life one day at a time,what can I tell you I am having a great time, join the living folks !!!

Allie · 11-02-2008, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nivosh

I resent this statement personally!

Me, too.

777 The Great Work · 11-02-2008, 09:02 PM

[QUOTE=borrasca2012;68361]OK for ME .........I AM happy with my LIVE !!!

There is no I OR My

borrasca2012 · 11-02-2008, 09:17 PM

[QUOTE=777 The Great Work;68537]

Quote:

Originally Posted by borrasca2012

OK for ME .........I AM happy with my LIVE !!!

There is no I OR My

there are no SPOON"s either.... ( matrix1)

....... okei,than i"ve to correct me and say:: the ALLONESS , incarnated

in this individual body, and time and space is HAPPY.......how it is

Operator · 11-02-2008, 09:36 PM

Hi,

First of all: why are we waiting for something to happen and waiting for change ?
We ARE the instruments of change and we should shape the change to our likings ! Be part of it.

If we stay in the waiting mode we will be victims. If we get in the victor mode we get to decide about the outcome.

Do we need change ? .... yes we do !
Mankind is on a collision path and even if it may not be soon, we need to safeguard this world for for the future of our children.
Like the Hopi say: be responsible for the next 7 generations to come.

So if you don't experience change (for the good) we have to investigate our actions since apparently we're still failing.

Cheers

franciejones · 11-02-2008, 10:32 PM

Nivosh,

Hello my friend. I feel those fears at times as well. Know that I am changing with you and others here and if the world stays the same, atleast we will not. The smallest changes matter.

Love to you

Francie Jones

franciejones · 11-02-2008, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by borrasca2012

OK for ME .........I AM happy with my LIVE !!!

........... enough to eat, roof over head, and can LIVE MY WAY OF BELIVE,

.....i don"t need ufo"s, aliens or fanatic religion troublemakers.....

POLITIK ,MONEY,RELIGION,JEWS,ALIENS and other troublemakers

CAN LEAVE THE PLANET !!!!!!! .......one way ticket

What a terrible and disgusting thing to say about others.

11-02-2008, 10:39 PM

There are always changes in life. It is how we deal with
the changes that determine the outcome.
I hope that the world will be healed.
I look forward to the Human race awakening in spiritual understanding
and love.

Either way, I am thankful to have my family.
Life is a gift.
Bless Everyone.

Peace,
Kevin

borrasca2012 · 11-02-2008, 10:50 PM

OKEI...... WHEN ITS TERRIBLE TO SAY that we want NO WARS

on this planet.......YOU ARE NOT READY for any change.........

I JUST SAY: NO WARS !!!!!!!!!! and no people who makes it.....

ANIMALS just kill to get FOOD .......

........BUT DOWN THERE, they just KILL for their own stupid intrests....

they even don"t eat each other...they just kill, for FUN

OR BECAUSE THEY ARE MORE STUPID THAN THE STUPIEST ANIMAL

THIS IS A PLANET FOR HUMANS who want to live in peace !!!!!

LEAVE THE PLANET, TROUBLEMAKERS......NO WAR

Shadowstalker · 11-02-2008, 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by borrasca2012 View Post

POLITIK ,MONEY,RELIGION,JEWS,ALIENS and other troublemakers

--------------------------------------------

So Aliens and Jews are trouble makers?

Interesting seeing how we are for the most part, part alien,

As for the Jews? what is wrong with them, seeings how you are generalizing.

MargueriteBee · 11-03-2008, 12:35 AM

Everyday is getting better and better, it's the turn of the tide.

Anchor · 11-03-2008, 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by borrasca2012

POLITIK ,MONEY,RELIGION,JEWS,ALIENS and other troublemakers

CAN LEAVE THE PLANET !!!!!!! .......one way ticket

Not acceptable. Infraction awarded - PM sent

nivosh · 11-03-2008, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anchor

Not acceptable. Infraction awarded - PM sent

Thank you.
Well Modarated forum...

11-02-2008, 04:51 PM	#1
nivosh Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Israel Posts: 65	What if NOTHING will change? Hello dear friends. There is a small but annoying thought that's cycling through my head lately. What if NOTHING will happen? What if Obama will get elected as scheduled, the economy will stay the same, no UFO will come to our rescue, 2012 will be just another day? What if all this Forum and whistle blowers thing is just a fantasy, a dream? This scares me most of all... I would like very much your opinions on the matter. love to you all...

11-02-2008, 05:49 PM	#2
borrasca2012 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 88	Re: What if NOTHING will change? OK for ME .........I AM happy with my LIVE !!! ........... enough to eat, roof over head, and can LIVE MY WAY OF BELIVE, .....i don"t need ufo"s, aliens or fanatic religion troublemakers..... POLITIK ,MONEY,RELIGION,JEWS,ALIENS and other troublemakers CAN LEAVE THE PLANET !!!!!!! .......one way ticket

11-02-2008, 08:23 PM	#4
Proletariat Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: southern california Posts: 35	Re: What if NOTHING will change? Well the prophecy DOES say the antichrist would come in the form of an individual who everyone looked up to, and praised and worshiped, which might explain why people are so hysterical over Obama.

11-02-2008, 08:28 PM	#5
deb003 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 297	Re: What if NOTHING will change? Expectations usually lead to dissapointments or even resentments. I guess one way to help would be to let go of the expectations of anything and just live in the moment. Easier SAID than actually DONE!!! I do hope for change. I'm tired of hearing about destruction and corruption every day. I guess I will start with changing myself! But I know what you mean, it can gewt frustrating because there's an expectation there..

11-02-2008, 08:24 PM	#7
Shadowstalker Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Austin texas Posts: 281	Re: What if NOTHING will change? I still don't know where folks got the idea that someone or something was to save us, I myself never thought that. I mean I myself always look to other means for research I never even heard of Blossom Goodchild till after i heard Megentapixie and that was in passing at the time. And magenta pixie stated that that if we wanted to be saved, that it would be up to us even with the Oct.14th issue in not so many words, I still think people should look to more then one source. The change should come from within at all times to start with, not with your neighbor.

11-02-2008, 08:52 PM	#9
weareone Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: uk Posts: 54	Re: What if NOTHING will change? thinking that god or aliens will come down and save us means you still have the victim attitude. If god comes it comes as an energy not a person. Obama wont change a thing because the external/internal us issues and political infra-structure wont change. I dont think when 2012 happens anything noticable will change, but i do think that when we look back on 2012 from 2022 we will se it as the time things changed. Peace

11-02-2008, 09:03 PM	#10
capreycorn Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: switzerland Posts: 455	Re: What if NOTHING will change? http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=4_P8S3H3kVw the above video is a typical sensationalist media oriented scenario..will it happen like this? maybe..or not. i had the chance to go to china a few days after the "tien an men square massacre".it was the best time to travel through china without other foreigners around. so a week after the massacre i still could see blood on the square..there were some guards staring at my video camera but that was it...it was far less creepy than being stared at by somebody "shady" in manhattan..it was strange how all foreigners left china, to go back to a even creepyer and more dangerous "hometown" in the US or elsewhere. (the media does that to us) another example..when i visited sri lanka and the philippines, when the whole world saw war going on there..i was really disappointed to not see anything spectacular like in the news at all....ok some skelettons on the side of the road...so what? toombstones in a cemetary look more frightening. often we have to go searching for "the action" or danger just to get electrocuted by some household appliance in home sweet home. it really depends where we are or will be and the attitude we have...

11-03-2008, 12:55 AM	#11
isotelesis Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 112	Re: What if NOTHING will change? Things are changing, just not how we expect, I think Nibiru/Galactic Alignment/2012 etc. is part of an elaborate disinformation campaign: http://answers.google.com/answers/th...id/576560.html However I do believe there is a lot of technology limited to black ops, probably for good reasons, many talents are wasted in pursuit of these chimera. There are more practical issues to be concerned with, such as public health, transportation, economics, food/water supply, geopolitics, pollution, sustainable development, education, organized crime, and problems of a more systematic nature. Try fixing those problems which can be solved.

11-03-2008, 04:12 AM	#12
LaRosa Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Lima, Peru Posts: 36	Re: What if NOTHING will change? by Borrasca2012:POLITIK ,MONEY,RELIGION,JEWS,ALIENS and other troublemakers CAN LEAVE THE PLANET !!!!!!! .......one way ticket. When I supported this comment I lowered to his style. I guess he is against the parasitic type of aliens ignoring there are some that are friendly. The Jews comment is just ignorance and I haven't paid attention to that word in the comment. Borrasca2012 I believe you are having good intentions, just don't close door to those who might help you one day, may it be an alien or a Jew. A good person can be found everywhere no matter his origin. You would have said Illuminati, you would offend a reader who is one of them but wish to be wisthleblower. I go more general and I have a wide diversity of friends. One way ticket to... the parasites of the human race! Now you fit inside what you want.

11-04-2008, 08:01 PM	#13
Frank Samuel Project Avalon Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: i live in puerto rico Posts: 643	Re: What if NOTHING will change? Hey people if your life is not changing constantly especially for the better, then something is terribly wrong. As you evolve , mature, learn, interact with others your world is changing. A positive attitude plays a major role. For others they want out of this world, I want to stay and work hard to make this globe a better place. Whatever your stance never give up on your internal growth.Be happy, celebrate your life live in the NOW. Sure we all hope for a better tomorrow, since I am not a time traveler I cannot predict the future. Is funny to see how many prophets of doom and Gloom swear up and down of the emminent destruction of the earth, the CHOOSEN ONES will be saved. In the meantime I live a happy life, thanking God for every single second of life in this planet. Yes I believe in a better tomorrow for ALL and no I am not a choosen one nor do I want to be if it excludes my love ones. Maybe I am insane in the membrain for wanting to live my life one day at a time,what can I tell you I am having a great time, join the living folks !!!

11-02-2008, 09:02 PM	#15
777 The Great Work Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: At the doors of perception Posts: 2,135	Re: What if NOTHING will change? [QUOTE=borrasca2012;68361]OK for ME .........I AM happy with my LIVE !!! There is no I OR My

11-02-2008, 09:36 PM	#17
Operator Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Caribbean Posts: 375	Re: What if NOTHING will change? Hi, First of all: why are we waiting for something to happen and waiting for change ? We ARE the instruments of change and we should shape the change to our likings ! Be part of it. If we stay in the waiting mode we will be victims. If we get in the victor mode we get to decide about the outcome. Do we need change ? .... yes we do ! Mankind is on a collision path and even if it may not be soon, we need to safeguard this world for for the future of our children. Like the Hopi say: be responsible for the next 7 generations to come. So if you don't experience change (for the good) we have to investigate our actions since apparently we're still failing. Cheers

11-02-2008, 10:32 PM	#18
franciejones Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 307	Re: What if NOTHING will change? Nivosh, Hello my friend. I feel those fears at times as well. Know that I am changing with you and others here and if the world stays the same, atleast we will not. The smallest changes matter. Love to you Francie Jones

11-02-2008, 10:39 PM	#20
Suriel Guest Posts: n/a	Re: What if NOTHING will change? There are always changes in life. It is how we deal with the changes that determine the outcome. I hope that the world will be healed. I look forward to the Human race awakening in spiritual understanding and love. Either way, I am thankful to have my family. Life is a gift. Bless Everyone. Peace, Kevin

11-02-2008, 10:50 PM	#21
borrasca2012 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 88	Re: What if NOTHING will change? OKEI...... WHEN ITS TERRIBLE TO SAY that we want NO WARS on this planet.......YOU ARE NOT READY for any change......... I JUST SAY: NO WARS !!!!!!!!!! and no people who makes it..... ANIMALS just kill to get FOOD ....... ........BUT DOWN THERE, they just KILL for their own stupid intrests.... they even don"t eat each other...they just kill, for FUN OR BECAUSE THEY ARE MORE STUPID THAN THE STUPIEST ANIMAL THIS IS A PLANET FOR HUMANS who want to live in peace !!!!! LEAVE THE PLANET, TROUBLEMAKERS......NO WAR

11-02-2008, 11:29 PM	#22
Shadowstalker Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Austin texas Posts: 281	Re: What if NOTHING will change? Originally Posted by borrasca2012 View Post POLITIK ,MONEY,RELIGION,JEWS,ALIENS and other troublemakers -------------------------------------------- So Aliens and Jews are trouble makers? Interesting seeing how we are for the most part, part alien, As for the Jews? what is wrong with them, seeings how you are generalizing.

11-03-2008, 12:35 AM	#23
MargueriteBee Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Northern California Posts: 216	Re: What if NOTHING will change? Everyday is getting better and better, it's the turn of the tide.