Which US presidential candidate do you think is most fit?

[yotta]

All:

I hope that everyone is well. I'm curious of the political spread here at Avalon and Camelot. My personal hope is that there is a fairly equal spread among us as far as political stance, as it would be a pretty powerful thing to see all "parties" here. I've always been curious of whether alternative thinkers like us exist across the board in terms of political affiliation. Of course, there is no right or wrong answer. Answer if you wish. I realize this is directed primarily to US members here, but feel free to chime in wherever you are!

Best wishes,

Y.

[Orion11]

hi yotta,

I elect you, yotta! you already sound years wiser than anyone we get handed.

so, I am electing you.

Hope you are well, to.

[ctophil]

I'm voting for Yahushua--the Son of Yahweh. Voting for a man, woman, reptilian, or whatever you are can lead to death and destruction in this world. Yahushua is coming shortly to bring the Kingdom of Heaven, and he will take over the United States or whatever it's called in 3 - 4 years. Oh, take over the world too. I don't really need to vote for him though. Because he will rule the Earth regardless of my input.

-Phillip

[AndyH]

If I was American and if Cynthia McKinney was a choice I'd vote for her seeing as Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich are no longer in it. TBH from what I've seen, they seem to be the only 3 real human beings left in govt.

[yotta]

Originally Posted by AndyH

If I was American and if Cynthia McKinney was a choice I'd vote for her seeing as Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich are no longer in it. TBH from what I've seen, they seem to be the only 3 real human beings left in govt.

I actually thought of adding Ron Paul as he is rumored to be on the Louisiana ballot. Of all of them, he would be my choice because he has the guts to stand up to the PTB and he has the plan that makes the most sense.

[Luigis Mushroom]

I think our elective system is a joke, but those who don't vote are no better off than those who can't vote. WHile I'd like to vote for somebody like Bob Barr or Ron Paul if he ws still in it, I don't think Barack Obama is a bad choice for the leader of the U.S. I think Sarah Palin is absolutely crazy, but part of me also thinks that she's not part of the system and that she's more of an ideologue trying to stroke her ego. Barack Obama spent his whole life being groomed to be a leader, and he was influenced by some very radical thinkers. There's no doubt he was approved by the system to be our next leader, which begs one to wonder if this change is just going to be authoritarian interjection under the guise of helping the people. However, part of me thinks he just wants to serve the country.

Here's the best Barack Obama video ever
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq8Uc5BFogE

[sfth13]

Originally Posted by AndyH

If I was American and if Cynthia McKinney was a choice I'd vote for her seeing as Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich are no longer in it. TBH from what I've seen, they seem to be the only 3 real human beings left in govt.

Cynthia McKinney is on the ballot with Rosa Clemente for the Green Party. There is actually 13 choices for President on the ballot. Not to mention the write-in

[THE BEST GUY]

my vote

Originally Posted by sfth13

Cynthia McKinney is on the ballot with Rosa Clemente for the Green Party.

Kewl She gets my vote

Now then who else can I coerce... errrr convince...

[AndyH]

I'm hoping that the 13 for obama and 6 for mccain are just having a laugh...or maybe forgot to put their glasses on? lol

[costrovs]

WHY????

Why does it really matter who you vote for?
Don't you guys realize its a giant scam?
HELLO!!! Anyone remember the 2000 election?
So, do you really think your vote counts?
In a sense.... it does, but if TPTB want a certain person for president, he will get voted in.
I remember reading about the voting machines fraud. Does anyone remember that? No one will say it anymore because its election time.

So, go ahead and vote for whomever, but I'm pretty positive that TPTB already have who they want too win.

So to answer the original question.
I believe McCain will be the best fit for TPTB.
And I believe Ron Paul will be the best fit for the American people!

[Tara]

Originally Posted by costrovs

WHY????

Why does it really matter who you vote for?
Don't you guys realize its a giant scam?
HELLO!!! Anyone remember the 2000 election?
So, do you really think your vote counts?
In a sense.... it does, but if TPTB want a certain person for president, he will get voted in.
I remember reading about the voting machines fraud. Does anyone remember that? No one will say it anymore because its election time.

So, go ahead and vote for whomever, but I'm pretty positive that TPTB already have who they want too win.

So to answer the original question.
I believe McCain will be the best fit for TPTB.
And I believe Ron Paul will be the best fit for the American people!

If we get out there and vote for Obama, and there is a wide enough spread, they can't steal it. Try to be open to the idea that Obama may not be playing this so called game with PTB. It is totally beyond me how anyone can just let this go, supporting McCain. You will play right into their hands. The PTB keep the power. Obama is being lambasted by the media right wing elite. Most of it is complete propaganda. He beat the Clintons who are a part of the PTB. He'll be lucky to make it thru to this election alive. Were the Kennedys and MLK killed by the powers that be? The Kennedys came out for Obama, not the Clintons. People really need to stand up for this guy. He may be our only shot at turning things around, and it's a long shot at that. I have been watching somewhat of a war in corporate media between GE owned MSNBC and Fox. I had a thought that maybe GE figured out it really needs consumers to buy it's stuff. Maybe GE is not interested in population reduction and a return to a Nazi Germany mentality. I think this is crunch time for the American people. I will not be enslaved (and no I am not already).

[Orion11]

Originally Posted by ctophil

I'm voting for Yahushua--the Son of Yahweh. Voting for a man, woman, reptilian, or whatever you are can lead to death and destruction in this world. Yahushua is coming shortly to bring the Kingdom of Heaven, and he will take over the United States or whatever it's called in 3 - 4 years. Oh, take over the world too. I don't really need to vote for him though. Because he will rule the Earth regardless of my input.

-Phillip

and this is what ruins a good forum for real topics.

Sorry but its true.

[mntruthseeker]

Cynthia McKinney gets my vote seeing as Dennis and Ron are not on the balot.

OMG we needed her running alot longer. You know Obama only brings his little followers to all the conerts and the all the people that buy his hype

[gordon]

I am shocked!!! The American people have forgotten about a hot babe who should be for President! Jeri Ryan, wow! (And I still remember those scenes from StarTrek when she, (7 of 9) was naked!!!

[JoshG_528hz]

come on now. it still baffles me that people actually believe mainstream candidates (republicans/democrats) are any different from one another, let alone "fit" for the job. they are told what to say. they are told how to act. I bet they even think the power given to them is their own. it's a sad situation. i have never and will never vote for a 'republicrat'. if i were to vote, which i am not doing because i don't believe my vote counts, i would write in Ron Paul (he's not a republicrat).

I vote for freedom.
I vote for happiness.
I vote for peace.
I vote for love.

[yotta]

Originally Posted by JoshG_528hz

come on now. it still baffles me that people actually believe mainstream candidates (republicans/democrats) are any different from one another, let alone "fit" for the job. they are told what to say. they are told how to act. I bet they even think the power given to them is their own. it's a sad situation. i have never and will never vote for a 'republicrat'. if i were to vote, which i am not doing because i don't believe my vote counts, i would write in Ron Paul (he's not a republicrat).

I vote for freedom.
I vote for happiness.
I vote for peace.
I vote for love.

While I also think mainstream politics is severely flawed, it is still reality that one of these two candidates will take the throne. Whether we like it or not, all of us will be subject to the winning administration. Many people I know say that they are voting for what they believe is the lesser of two "evils". I appreciate that point of view.

[sebring1963]

looks like Sarahs' choice is made up

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-14011708.html

[MAP]

Originally Posted by sebring1963

looks like Sarahs' choice is made up

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-14011708.html

PS im not voting..

[logic]

You should vote and you want to know why, simple!
Just in case
What if Illuminati is a hoax and Obama is just a regular selfish politican as Mc cain but less corrupt.

[GregorArturo]

Originally Posted by logic

You should vote and you want to know why, simple!
Just in case
What if Illuminati is a hoax and Obama is just a regular selfish politican as Mc cain but less corrupt.

Obama and McCain both voted on the bailout. Now, if you do some research you can understand how the bailout in it's essence DESTROYS the U.S. financial system. Since the U.S. started pumping in money to the financial markets, which I estimate at the moment is $1.2 trillion, most of it comes off of the printing press. Very little is actual loans from else where, as no one has the money! China is one of the few countries with serious surplus, but they've already loaned so much money to the U.S.

Let's just say they only printed off the printing press the $700 billion. Our money supply is roughly $7 trillion, that means a 10% inflation increase, also on top of our current inflation. That means your dollar eventually will be worth 90 cents when the 'real inflation' catches up.

Inflation will reach a point where countries like China and Saudi Arabia call in their treasury notes so they don't lose money from their investments (Inflation out runs the interest). And then a hyperinflation depression.

THE CANDIDATES KNOW THIS. THE PEOPLE IN CHARGE ARE NOT IDIOTS. THE PRESIDENT IS NOT AN IDIOT. ECONOMICS IS NOT QUANTUM PHYSICS (in terms of complexity).

Niether.

Obama, much like Jimmy Carter, is going to ride a wave of popular sentiment to office - not so much an enthusiasm for what he brings to the table, so much as a rejection of the last eight years. Voters are going to the polls with pitch forks this year, much like in 2006. We will end up with a one term Senator who's only real connections are in Hollywood and Illinois. He may suffer the same fate as Jimmy Carter - although Obama will have both houses of Congress under his belt on day one, and for at least two years.

Nadar, probably a good guy and supreme corporate watchdog, doesn't have a chance - heck, he's not even on the ballot in all fifty states. Plus, have you seen him lately? He makes John McCain look like a youthful lion.

While nobody is really going to the polls with an axe to grind with McCain, he's gonna' get stabbed by the pitchforks mentioned above. His star rose eight years ago, and Bush crushed it. But when you are running against mobsters like Guilianni and cultists like Romney, you will get the nomination.

Jim Webb, current governor of Virginia, should be at the helm of our nation right now. Read a book called "The Nightinggale's Song." Given his history with the Navy, given what we know about the Office of Naval Intelligence, given the wise words Webb speaks every time he gets in front of a microphone, I would speculate that he is a guy that knows a lot of stuff about what we discuss here, and genuinely cares for the human condition.

[sfth13]

Originally Posted by yotta

While I also think mainstream politics is severely flawed, it is still reality that one of these two candidates will take the throne. Whether we like it or not, all of us will be subject to the winning administration.

Don't forget the House and the Senate along with the administration.

[GoingToFast]

Originally Posted by ctophil

yahushua--the son of yahweh.

Gesuntheit.

[Dantheman62]

Originally Posted by GoingToFast

Gesuntheit.

HaHa, you're funny!, made me laugh!