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I've been reading alternative stuff for two or three years. I feel fairly confident that something special is happening, and I feel confident that main stream media isn't telling the whole truth.
But my understanding of the alternative ideas is very limited. Normally, when you want to evaluate the legitimacy of various claims, you ask for evidence. But evidence isn't, for the most part, available for claims involving the strange ideas of this realm. So I have to admit that I don't know what's really happening in regards to these alternative claims. 1. Is ascension an actual phenomenon? 2. Are ET ready to appear to the people of this world? 3. Is 2012 the date for a profound change? 4. Is Planet X a crock of manure? 5. Are there a number of very wealthy, powerful people that are working to gain control over our planet? I can't feel confident that I can answer any of these questions. I keep reading, but I'm frustrated that I still don't know what's really happening. |
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me and you are in the same boat. except number 5 lol. but yeah i would love ascension or a mass ET visitation but i have no idea if any of that will actualy happen and ive yet to see any undenyable truth.
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None of us "knows" what the future will be. We have all heard or read what the future "could be", and many of us, (but not all), "believe" what the future will be. I strongly suggest that if we all concentrate on believing in a "positive" outcome for the future, then so it will come to pass. Why? because, by invoking the "100 monkey effect", we will ensure a positive outcome.
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It's important to balance the positive with the negative. We can make a positive future for ourselves but we must be prepared for anything negative as well. It's important NOT to dwell on the negative stuff or we will end up creating that stuff.
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These are my answers and my truth at this moment. I can't prove it of course and I might be wrong, but I promise I think its true.
I like your post because I like summaries like this - they are quite fun to do occasionally. 1. Is ascension an actual phenomenon? Yes - I will stake my life on that one. 2. Are ET ready to appear to the people of this world? They do already, but not on a mass, undeniable, public stage; so I would say: no, not yet - maybe nearer 2012, and after we have done most of the work we need to do 3. Is 2012 the date for a profound change? Yes - very freaking profound 4. Is Planet X a crock of manure? Not sure - if it is a reality, then it might be part of the ascension mechanism 5. Are there a number of very wealthy, powerful people that are working to gain control over our planet? Yes - quite surprised you ask this one. There are lots more questions you could have asked ![]() A.. |
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well I would agree more or less with Anchors answers but
with #4 too much info about a planet X too not be something... do not most astronomers say over half of all the stars we can see and more are of a binary system? good chance planet X is simply a brown dwarf/dark star... but really what is it? and why does the Vatican have so many telescopes? 5) The very wealthy PTB answer to negative hyperdemensional beings that do NOT have our best interests in mind... ( Just like we do not give too much room for our Chickens,Cows,Pigs and Sheep. ) A very good (and short booklet FREE ) on line to check out is at http://montalk.net its called " Fringe Knowledge for Beginners" also The RA material at llresearch.org all their books are now FREE on-line and The Wave series at cassiopaea.org |
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Here is the second half of Adrian Cooper's newsletter - He is very much of the same thoughts too ! You are what you eat --------------------- I have chosen this subject due to the numerous messages I receive on the subject of diet, as well as ongoing discussions in the Our Ultimate Reality forums. Now most people will have heard of the expression "we are what we eat", but in most cases not fully appreciating the greater meanings that make this saying true on these three levels. 1. Health 2. Ethical 3. Spiritual Let us now take a closer look at each of these factors in turn. 1. Health: First of all I realise that food is a touchy subject with many people, but I make no apologies for bringing eating habits to your attention. If what I am about to present you with conflicts with your desired lifestyle or comfort zone, perhaps you should consider whether this and future newsletters are of value to you at this stage of your evolution. I am not writing about subjects that I think you want to hear, but rather that you should hear for your own benefit, happiness and above all - evolution. The majority of people eating meat today do so not because they feel they must eat animal flesh in order to survive and remain healthy, but rather because eating meat is deeply entrenched in their psyche, and has been from a very young age. Babies are not born as avid meat eaters of animal flesh, and neither do babies or young children require meat and dairy products in order to survive and prosper. The only reason that people eat meat is because, as with many other aspects of society, such as religion, it is a family tradition. Babies are not born with any pre-conceived ideas, customs or habits whatsoever. Instead they are learned and conditioned as the child grows. A child in the early years, up to between the ages of 5 and 7, is extremely receptive to everything they are taught by parents, relatives and schools. This is because the brainwave frequency of children, even when full awake, is at the Alpha or even borderline Theta frequencies, which is an expanded stated of consciousness and therefore of learning. This originates from the fact that historically a baby and later young child must quickly learn everything required for survival. This also applies to all animals. This is also just one reason that very young children have many inner abilities such as Clairvoyance, Telepathy and Telekinesis. As the child grows, and becomes more equipped for survival, as he or she becomes more "tuned" to the physical, material world, brainwave frequencies increase in frequency to the faster Beta range. So eating meat is learned - not "normal" or instinctive. Once learned, I child will grow up believing that eating meat is "normal" and will continue to eat it out of habit, just as a child who is born in to a famly of a certain religion, will often devote themselves to that religion for life, without ever considering the alternatives. If this person later becomes awakened, and realises that eating animal flesh is not the thing to do, it becomes difficult at that point to adjust to a more appropriate, healthy diet. Much can be said, and evidence presented as to why eating meat and dairy products is damaging for your health, but instead I will recommend a book that everyone in the world should read: http://www.ourultimatereality.com/the-china-study.html Suffice it to say that eating meat and dairy products is directly responsible for a very wide range of diseases, not the least of which are obesity, diabetes, colon and other digestive tract cancers, toxic and allergic reactions and premature ageing. A common argument is that many animals in the wild eat meat so why should not humans? The fact is Divine Providence has provided a "food chain" which every animal on the planet adheres to except for humans. Humans are "designed" to eat natural whole plant based foods provided in abundance by Divine Providence. This was even stated in the Bible book of Genesis thus: "God said, Behold, I have given you every herb yielding seed, which is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree, which bears fruit yielding seed. It will be your food". -- Genesis 1:29 Some people believe that plant food is not sufficient to provide nutrition for full development of the physical body. Well consider this: The very largest animals on the planet - both on land and in the sea - and including the mightiest dinosaurs of yester year - are all plant eaters. Elephants, Rhino, Giraffe, Basking Shark, Brontosaurus and all prehistoric sauropods - all herbivores - Vegan. Others may say - "our ancient ancestors hunted and ate meat". Well the fact is the our very earliest direct ancestors, which had a very similar digestive system to ours, were exclusively plant eaters. Humans who eat natural, harvested whole foods - Vegans - are not only much healthier than carnivorous humans, but also live for between 7 and 15 years longer. We started out as plant eaters and in order to fulfil this cycle of evolution we must finish this cycle as plant based food eaters. 2. Ethical: Animals reared artificially for food are often kept under extremely adverse, crul and unnatural circumstances designed only for one thing - the maximum production of meat and milk in order to gratify the sense of taste of human beings. Not only are they kept under such awful conditions, they are also injected with all sorts of chemicals and hormones which are soon absorbed in to the flesh of the animal or excreted in their milk. Most people have visions of chickens happily clucking their way around farmyards, cows peacefully grazing in the fields etc. But these are the small minority. The reality for the majority of food animals is completely different. This video reveals all, but I warn you now it is horrific, even though it is true: http://www.ourultimatereality.com/meetyourmeat.html Anyone eating meat and/or dairy products is always part of this situation. I realise that to most people that meat is simply chunks of red stuff on supermarket shelves, or cartons of milk or blocks or cheese, but these conceal one of the greatest transgressions of humans who were originally entrusted by God with their well-being. 3. Spiritual: It could be argued that humans who have not evolved to a certain level are still ignorant about true nature of animals and their relationship with humans, or of the consequences of their actions in eating milk or dairy products. But this does not excuse those humans who have evolved to the stage where they should know better. The fact is, animals are not separate to us - they are aspects of ourselves and, like humans, aspects and part of the Whole. To kill, harm or mistreat any animal - any animal for any reason - is to kill, harm or mistreat part of ourselves and all life. As we evolve and gain more understanding of the true nature of the Universe, of all Creation, and of all life, we also gain full realisation of the sanctity of all life, and our individual responsibilities towards all life and ultimately to and of God. Unawakened, unaware people can hide behind their material view of the world, but those who have evolved to the next level have no excuse - we either respect the equality of all in Creation, or we regress. The books of religions teaches this to their congregations thus: He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man. -- Isaiah 66.3 If one has a strong desire for meat, he may make an animal out of clarified butter, or one of flour, and eat that. But let him never seek to destroy a living being. -- Manusmriti 5.37.174 As long as human society continues to allow cows to be regularly killed in slaughterhouses, there cannot be any question of peace and prosperity. -- A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be measured by the way in which its animals are treated. -- Mahatma Gandhi Whoever is kind to the lesser creatures is kind to himself. -- Prophet Mohamed There is not an animal on the earth, nor a flying creature flying on two wings, but they are peoples like unto you. -- Koran, Surah 6, Verse 38 So in conclusion - indeed you really are what you eat. If you wish to evolve to the next evolution of human being, you must be the next evolution of Human Being Now - a Human Being that understands the Oneness and sanctity of all life, and chooses to live life as such. Again - I realise that these revelations will not be popular with some of you who are still eating the diet programmed in to your Subconscious Mind by parents, teachers and society, and that some of you enjoy gratifying your senses of smell and taste through meat, milk and cheese, but I would be failing in my service to you if I said only those things that you would wish to hear apposed to those you need to hear and act upon for your own benefit and above all Spiritual Evolution. But as always you have the Divine freewill to make your own choices. As the saying goes: "don't shoot the messenger". I am here to be of service, and that is what I will continue to do. Until next newsletter enjoy a wonderful, healthy and abundant week. In Love, Light and Truth, Adrian. http://www.ourultimatereality.com/ou...-the-book.html http://www.ourultimatereality.com/ne...2005-2007.html http://www.ourultimatereality.com/sc...paperback.html http://www.scienceofbeing27lessons.com http://www.ourultimatereality.com http://www.ourultimatereality.com/forums Additional resources: http://www.mindpowerbooks.com http://www.charleshaanelbooks.com http://www.developingpsychicpowers.com http://www.astralpulse.com/forums http://www.thewayofthecrystal.com |
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hi Droid,
to me, your questions, and i think many of us have similar questions, otherwise we wouldn’t be on this forum, are leading towards one conclusion; finding my own truth is all what matters. what’s meant to be secret will be secret until we will know, until then its just distraction. |
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Thanks Pomguymguy,
I appreciate what you have written. While I still eat meat, I find my feelings about it are changing. I think what you are saying is making sense. Some of it is gradually sinking in here. I grew up eating meat as many do - without truly thinking about it. But now that I am really thinking about things - I see the connections to the rest of the world. I am not ready to give up my hamburgers....yet. But little by little my diet is changing. I plan on searching what is right for me - but also what is right for all. I have read so much in the past few years that I feel the need to know MORE! It finally became recognizable. But your points were heard here today. BTW - I read "Fringe Knowledge for Beginners" the other day, and it really reasonated with me. I just wish I had others to talk to that don't think I am completely crazy. That is frustruating! But does not move me in the least. When will they figure all this out too? |
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Plants have feeling too
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![]() The interesting part about the wealthy struggle going on is there is a new player that hasn't been around for a few thousand years... European Bankers have run the show since modern time began, one yank on a string and a Country would crumble... They lost the control they've always had, a planned lesson turned into disaster for themselves, the power they had, is gone. The attention right now is on each other, and they don't have time to watch all of us that are hopping off their wheel... We're fed up with their control, and will stand by with our arms crossed and allow the system to crumble. This response is a first, they don't know how to control us, they looked at Martial Law and realized that won't work because the military and police are Americans, and will shove a gun up the hole of any banker that tries to turn them against us... I think they are on the edge of tossing in their hands... Nov 7th is when their window closes for their plan... Game over man... ![]() |
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I used to have difficulty with understanding comments like - "that question is meaningless." As a kid I always used to ask questions because that was how I learned things. As I grew older my questions were more towards clarification of what I understood on a particular topic. From time to time I was told my question had no meaning.
Well hell, I thought it did, otherwise I wouldn't have asked it! ![]() ![]() "Okay," he responded, here's a couple, "What colour is a gallon? or, how about the classic one - how long is a piece of string?" ![]() So, the question I'd like to ask is - er, um, it's - oh damn! I've forgotten now. Good grief it was right on the tip of my tongue. I think I'd better go back to bed. ![]() |
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Alright here is the biggie whoever dares to answer
What is the meaning of life?? |
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