So, is nibiru coming?

[migp]

i'VE BEEN WATCHING VIDEOS, INTERVIEWS ETC, FROM PROJECT CAMELOT AND OTHER WEBSITES AND I STILL DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT IS HAPPENING.

THE ONLY REASON THAT I SEE FOR A GLOBAL WAR AND THE NWO TO HAPPEN IS THAT A NATURAL EVENT IS COMING FOR SURE AND THERE IS THE NEED TO HAVE CONTROL OF THE WORLD POPULATION BEFORE WE ALL REALIZE THAT THIS EVENT HAS AN EXACT DATE TO OCCUR.

SO, THE ONLY POSSIBILITY IN MY MIND FOR THIS WORLD MESS, INCLUDING THE CONTROLLED DEMOLITION OF THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM AS YOU CALL IT, IS NIBIRU COMING IN DEC 21, 2012.

I BELIEVE THAT THIS EVENT HAS BEEN CONFIRMED IN SOME OF THE PROJECT CAMELOT INTERVIEWS BUT THEY ARE ALWAYS CENSURED, OR EDITED AS BILL AND KERRY CALL IT. WHY? I HAVE TWO POSSIBLE ANSWERS TO THIS QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD NOT LIKE TO SAY.

[odiseo]

We know for sure that something will happen in 2012 but the main question is exactly what is it.

I find Mr. Bob Dean very interesting in the last interview it took me by surprise that he was referring to nibiru. I don't know if Mr Z. Sitchin is 100% right on the nibiru issue. If you search Lucas Scatamburlo interview he says that Sitchin supposedly was visited by the jesuits and warn him that he couldn't tell all of what he new.

Maybe in this solar system past did in fact some object pass over, could be a comet, planet i think we will have to wait for and specific answer to that. Every discovery out there must be related one to the other, if you take the case of our moon , supposedly is and artificial satellite , same thing to iapetus , maybe nibiru could be something artificially made.

There are many questions in this matter but not much answers , lets hope things start changing and the true comes out in time to be prepare for what ever event will happen in 2012.

[Koyaanisqatsi]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20...tchy/3082054_1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajUnQqLyKec

i just found this recently posted utube vid. whats odd is that the other night i looked up at the night sky and saw a bright star that seemed out of place. i was rushing to get to my car and was late for an appointment. i stopped and thought that i did not recall seeing venus in that part of the sky before, i was right cause venus was to the left of this object which was larger than venus was very bright white and did not flicker one iota.... just continuous light emission. because it was white and not RED i shrugged it off thinking maybe it was jupiter??? shoot i was in a hurry!

then i saw this u tube vid and thought well look at that

hmmmmm

one more:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5RbYovhI0g

[enemyofNWO]

Originally Posted by Koyaanisqatsi

http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20...tchy/3082054_1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajUnQqLyKec

i just found this recently posted utube vid. whats odd is that the other night i looked up at the night sky and saw a bright star that seemed out of place. i was rushing to get to my car and was late for an appointment. i stopped and thought that i did not recall seeing venus in that part of the sky before, i was right cause venus was to the left of this object which was larger than venus was very bright white and did not flicker one iota.... just continuous light emission. because it was white and not RED i shrugged it off thinking maybe it was jupiter??? shoot i was in a hurry!

then i saw this u tube vid and thought well look at that

hmmmmm

one more:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5RbYovhI0g

Thanks for your information . The above video is dynamite !
Is anybody else seen it ?
Going back to Bob Dean prediction about the timing of Nibiru if this video can be confirmed , Bob Dean information is not accurate !


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5RbYovhI0g

[Koyaanisqatsi]

Originally Posted by enemyofNWO

Going back to Bob Dean prediction about the timing of Nibiru if this video can be confirmed , Bob Dean information is not accurate !

if i remember right i think bob dean predicted "no later than 2017"

[QueenOfLeon]

When i initially stumbled across Nibiru my partner went to NASA asking for answers. (I figured as they talk out of their behinds, there is no point!) However there was a section called ask an astrobiologist, and low and behold practically evry quesiton was about Nibiru, and shock horror they denied it. COMPLETELY. Obviously.

What was interesting is that when the astrobiologist was confronted about the newspaper report in 1985 stating that planet X was found, he just shrugged it off by saying we find new anomolies inthe sky all the time, and then blinded the audience with NASA science. It all seemed very fishy to me.

I swing from believing it , to not doing so. For some reason the thought of human intervention ie: martial law scares me more than Nibiru which is obviously natural phenomonon *if true*. And if it is coming there is not much we can do about it.

I guess it will be a quick way to go.

What recently re-ignited my aprehensive belief in it is the blood line insider mentioning it on Above Top Secret. As a return of a god!

having said that the hopi indians refer to it as the dark destroyer and when are they ever wrong.

if it is true there are safe places but we arent being told where they are!

So I guess we just better pray.

my 2 pence worth.

[Koyaanisqatsi]

Originally Posted by QueenOfLeon

if it is true there are safe places but we arent being told where they are!

So I guess we just better pray.

my 2 pence worth.

http://www.zetatalk.com/safelocs.pdf

i found this bit from the controversial zetatalk.com. it is the most comprehensive 'safe location' document i have seen. other sources i have read to seem to correlate pretty good with the zeta one so i usually refer to it when i need to decide which way to run since i live directly on the gulf of mexico!!

i still remain very unconvinced of this issue no matter how much information there are on the internet, there are not any clear proof of it to be considered something real.

In the other hand, speculating, the possibility of it´s existence appears many times.

bob Dean told somethings about Nibiru, being a so nice person as he seems to be with high respectability, i don´t buy the story.

[QueenOfLeon]

Originally Posted by Koyaanisqatsi

http://www.zetatalk.com/safelocs.pdf

i found this bit from the controversial zetatalk.com. it is the most comprehensive 'safe location' document i have seen. other sources i have read to seem to correlate pretty good with the zeta one so i usually refer to it when i need to decide which way to run since i live directly on the gulf of mexico!!

Yeah I would be a gonner too cos I live literally a hop skip and jump from the sea.

Thanks for the link!! But doesnt zeta talk get alot of bad press! Isnt she a channeller?

[Koyaanisqatsi]

Originally Posted by QueenOfLeon

But doesnt zeta talk get alot of bad press! Isnt she a channeller?

yes Queen zeta gets bad press but if you think about it has any channeler, whistle-bower, informant, insider etc not received bad press from time to time? is there an exception to this rule?

[odiseo]

Nice info zorgon , but i was talking that in 2012 not that nibiru or any other gloom and doom thing will happen , but maybe there will be some change let's say in the way we measure time , change of calendars i don't know. I mention that date because all the different infos related to 2012 but the ones that talks about change in consciousness, perception of time. It seem we will have to wait for the date to come.

[GoingToFast]

In what year are we really, Bob Dean mentioned that Jesus was born 7-years before the official year-0, and some people are talking about some English king who lived in the 1600´s who added ore tock away 6-years. It´s all wery confusing about which year we are actually living in.

Originally Posted by GoingToFast

It´s all wery confusing about which year we are actually living in.

Why is it confusing? We are living in 2008...Our calendar starts at a point in time based approximately on Jesuses birth as best as they could determine it. Most people know that he was not born Dec 25th... that date was picked because Pagans already celibrated the return of the sun after the equinox and was a convienient date picked, not an actual birth date...

So if Jesus can indeed be proven to have been born at a different time... our calendar still remains the same

No confusion... just another detail of History in error.

Now what happens if it turns out as many believe that there never was a "jesus" How does that work in the 2012 predictions?

[giaoue]

Originally Posted by GoingToFast

In what year are we really, Bob Dean mentioned that Jesus was born 7-years before the official year-0, and some people are talking about some English king who lived in the 1600´s who added ore tock away 6-years. It´s all wery confusing about which year we are actually living in.

Yes, I heard somewhere that around 300 AD Emperor Constantine conjured up our present day yearly timetable with the birth of Jesus to be year 1 AD but minused between 2-7 yrs. so if it were really 300 AD when this was created it was told throughout the land that it is 293 - 298 AD. So it is between 2006 to 2001 AD right now. As for the 12/21/2012 end of Mayan Calendar long-count that has nothing to do with the passing of Nibiru. The Mayan Calendar uses celestial constellations & the zodiacs to measure time thru astronomical pathways --- Precession of the Equinox. In other words, no matter what past rulers did to manipulate our present calendar it has no effect on this 12/21/2012 date due to the fact that there was no BC or AD when their Mayan Calendar was created over 5,000 years ago. That date is an event of alignment within our perception of duality called 3D or 3rd density/dimension which is going to have a subtle but instant change on that date which our entire universe is going to also experience that is truly happening gradually every moment of our most precious NOW! As for the Mayan Calendar, it was using 13 months with each month having 28 days which equals 364, which also goes with the moon cycles of every 28 days & so the extra day was added in to mess us all up & also made the leap year because each day is really 23 hrs. & 56 mins long. 4 mins. x 364 days = 1456/60 = 24.2666 hrs. Close enough to make an extra day that confuses our astronomical clock, go figure.


Now here is a very different perception to what Nibiru truly is thru a channeller & it kinda makes me think it's possible because I do know that our moon is also an artificial satellite brought here about 11,000 yrs ago from Ursa Minor that the greys needed for a base & so they hollowed it out. Check it out, this may be a way to help the worries of its passing. I just want people to realize no matter what, we all individually & collectively co-create our own realities so focus on total & unconditional LOVE & transform this FEAR into a simple acronym from a techno song that I enjoy listening to:
Fear by UNKLE - Forget Everything And Remember

http://www.nibiruancouncil.com/html/...ipnibiru.html#

We are all SELF (Something Everything Loves Forever) so look in the mirror & then envision that you are looking @ everything in a simultaneous linear timeline of past, present, & future but it's all in the moment of NOW!

[Koyaanisqatsi]

the following quotes come from this link:

http://paranormal.about.com/library/.../aa021102a.htm



"Even mainstream astronomers have long speculated that there may be an unknown planet - a Planet X - somewhere out beyond the orbit of Pluto that would account for the anomalies they were detecting in the orbits of Neptune and Uranus. Some unseen body seems to be tugging at them. The finding was reported in the June 19, 1982 edition of the New York Times:

Something out there beyond the furthest reaches of the known solar system is tugging at Uranus and Neptune. A gravitational force keeps perturbing the two giant planets, causing irregularities in their orbits. The force suggests a presence far away and unseen, a large object, the long-sought Planet X. Astronomers are so certain of this planet's existence that they have already named it "Planet X - the 10th Planet."

The anomalous body was first spotted in 1983 by IRAS (Infrared Astronomical Satellite), according to news stories. The Washington Post reported: "A heavenly body possibly as large as the giant planet Jupiter and possibly so close to Earth that it would be part of this solar system has been found in the direction of the constellation Orion by an orbiting telescope aboard the U.S. infrared astronomical satellite. So mysterious is the object that astronomers do not know if it is a planet, a giant comet, a nearby 'protostar' that never got hot enough to become a star, a distant galaxy so young that it is still in the process of forming its first stars or a galaxy so shrouded in dust that none of the light cast by its stars ever gets through." "


""A Mystery Revolves Around the Sun," an article posted by MSNBC on October 7, 1999 said: "Two teams of researchers have proposed the existence of an unseen planet or a failed star circling the sun at a distance of more than 2 trillion miles, far beyond the orbits of the nine known planets... Planetary scientist at Britain's Open University, speculates that the object could be a planet larger than Jupiter." And in December, 2000, SpaceDaily reported on "Another Candidate For 'Planet X' Spotted."

Another article and photo appeared in Discovery News: "Large Object Discovered Orbiting Sun." The article, published in July, 2001, says, "The discovery of a large reddish chunk of something orbiting in Pluto's neighborhood has re-ignited the idea that there may be more than nine planets in the solar system." Naming it 2001 KX76. the discoverers estimate that it is smaller than our Moon and might have an elongated orbit, but they gave no indication that it was heading this way."

so it appears that evidence pertaining to nibiru has appeared in the main stream media but that was some time ago. since then i have not seen anything more recent except on alternative sites. the article about IRAS discovery reported in the Washington Post was quickly taken down and never heard of again. fortunately some people captured the article and you can google it to find it

Originally Posted by Koyaanisqatsi

"Even mainstream astronomers have long speculated that there may be an unknown planet - a Planet X - somewhere out beyond the orbit of Pluto that would account for the anomalies they were detecting in the orbits of Neptune and Uranus. Some unseen body seems to be tugging at them. The finding was reported in the June 19, 1982 edition of the New York Times:

1982? Why not try getting your news a little more up to date?

That unknown planet is Eris with moon Dysnomia...

Here is the Orbit




There are others as well and even a Dwarf planet in the Asteroid belt called CERES




If you looking for 'enlightenment' it would be wise to study and keep up to date with new discoveries


And anyone listening to Zeta talk after the last fiasco?

Good luck to you...

Fool me once shame on you... fool me twice...

Well let President Bush explain it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ux3DKxxFoM

[Koyaanisqatsi]

Originally Posted by zorgon

That unknown planet is Eris with moon Dysnomia...

the size of eris does not correlate with what was reported back in 1982 by the washington post...

"The most fascinating explanation of this mystery body, which is so cold it casts no light and has never been seen by optical telescopes on Earth or in space, is that it is a giant gaseous planet, as large as Jupiter and as close to Earth as 50 billion miles. While that may seem like a great distance in earthbound terms, it is a stone's throw in cosmological terms, so close in fact that it would be the nearest heavenly body to Earth beyond the outermost planet Pluto. "If it is really that close, it would be a part of our solar system," said Dr. James Houck of Cornell University's Center for Radio Physics and Space Research and a member of the IRAS science team."

did the scientists at IRAS make a mistake?

Originally Posted by Koyaanisqatsi

"The most fascinating explanation of this mystery body, which is so cold it casts no light and has never been seen by optical telescopes on Earth or in space, is that it is a giant gaseous planet,

So this planet is COLD? yet it shows up in IRAS?

Infrared Astronomical Satellite (IRAS)
Infrared is HEAT... IRAS searches for HOT items...


That video you linked...

At 3:08 he says the following image of the BIG DIPPER

The image he shows is Orion

IRAS discovered a huge Nebula in Orion

This is what orion looks like when viewed in Infrared from IRAS
http://www.nasaimages.org/luna/servl...125:IRAS-Orion


Is it any wonder that everyone is so confused about this?

No one can get their facts straight Big Dipper and Orion's Belt are two of the best know constellations out there

did the scientists at IRAS make a mistake?

I think not...

From the people who run IRAS

No Tenth Planet Yet From IRAS
http://web.ipac.caltech.edu/staff/tc...lanet_yet.html








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[Koyaanisqatsi]

Originally Posted by zorgon

From the people who run IRAS

No Tenth Planet Yet From IRAS
http://web.ipac.caltech.edu/staff/tc...lanet_yet.html
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Project Camelot | Henry Deacon 1st Update


"NOAA, the Dark Star, and global warming

Henry at one point did some work with NOAA (the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration) and it was there that he learned about what he called the “second sun”. This is a massive astronomical object which is on a long elliptical orbit around our own sun, on an inclined plane to the rest of the planets. It’s now approaching, and is causing resonance effects on our sun in various ways. A small organization within NOAA is aware that this is a cause of the warming of all the planets, not just the Earth. This information is classified, but has been known for a number of years."

http://projectcamelot.net/livermore_physicist_2.html

mmmmk, so if the terms 'nibiru' and 'planet x' elicit negative reactions from the cranial vault of our nibiru nay sayers then anyone care to elaborate on this?

pretty please?

[Pokemon]

This video has been banned from being searched in YouTube, it's about Avebury crop circle by NoStarPanel.

And this one, a clairvoyant who was trying to decipher its meaning.

[KathyT]

Originally Posted by Pokemon

This video has been banned from being searched in YouTube, it's about Avebury crop circle by NoStarPanel.

And this one, a clairvoyant who was trying to decipher its meaning.

Pokemon, thanks for the links. I found the first one worked, and the 2nd one has been removed. I also searched for Nibiru Avebury Crop Circle and found it as well.

The YouTube user NoStarPanel gives a coordinate of Nibiru of 13h 48m 0s, -8 24’ 25”. There is another You Tube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RA7d4...eature=related giving a coordinate of 9h 47m 59s, 13 16’ 27”, and I don’t know where they get that coordinate. The first link you gave us bases their coordinate on the Crop Circle information, and it is supposedly in the Virgo constellation. So they looked for anomalies in the Virgo constellation. I am not an astronomer so I can’t verify the planet locations and calculations. However, I do use Photoshop a lot and can provide verification as to what wikisky.org telescope shows, even more than the YouTube can show you.

Here is the Crop Circle in Avebury, UK that supposedly gives information about Nibiru and 2012.


Here is a screen capture I did of the Wikisky.org coordinates of 13h 48m 0s, -8 24’ 25” in the Virgo constellation



Here is the zoomed in infrared view showing the blackish square panel of something screening out. I am quite aware that photos coming through NASA are routinely screened to remove what they may not want to show you, and that is what I believe they do to North pole and South pole pictures, Mars and Moon pictures.



Here is what I was able to do with Photoshop. I used the Curve tool to see if I lightened the dark square, and changed various tone contrasts, would something show up, and it DOES. You can see a circular object near the coordinate, and what appears to be a smaller circular object (planet?) nearby, to the left. It pretty much tells me, YES, they are hiding something. Whether it is Nibiru, or something else, I wouldn’t know.



There is a website which is trying to pull together information or pictures on Nibiru, it is http://yowusa.com/ but I haven’t had time to evaluate what they have to offer.

But even more so, this web site is very important: http://vodpod.com/watch/545245-cross...assim-haramein
This is Nassim Haramein talking about the binary code in Crop Circles, and his credentials can be easily found with your browser. This video is over a couple of hours long, and the part about the crop circle is over half way through. The first part where he explains geometry is very import to understand the importance of the Crop Circles!

Originally Posted by Koyaanisqatsi

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then i saw this u tube vid and thought well look at that
hmmmmm

Funny other than the title of that video I did not hear the word Nibiru hmmmmm


Files released on UFO sightings
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7398108.stm

[QueenOfLeon]

Originally Posted by zorgon

Funny other than the title of that video I did not hear the word Nibiru hmmmmm


Files released on UFO sightings
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7398108.stm

Its a whitewash alright. how can you have a top secret file on something that doesnt exist!!

[Koyaanisqatsi]

Originally Posted by zorgon

Funny other than the title of that video I did not hear the word Nibiru hmmmmm


Files released on UFO sightings
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7398108.stm

when i stated in my post '...i saw this video hmmmm i was referencing this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajUnQqLyKec

and not the bbc video about ufo's.

i too noticed that the bbc video made no mention about nibiru and perhaps i should have not included it in my post

[norman]

Originally Posted by Koyaanisqatsi

http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20...tchy/3082054_1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajUnQqLyKec

i just found this recently posted utube vid. whats odd is that the other night i looked up at the night sky and saw a bright star that seemed out of place. i was rushing to get to my car and was late for an appointment. i stopped and thought that i did not recall seeing venus in that part of the sky before, i was right cause venus was to the left of this object which was larger than venus was very bright white and did not flicker one iota.... just continuous light emission. because it was white and not RED i shrugged it off thinking maybe it was jupiter??? shoot i was in a hurry!

then i saw this u tube vid and thought well look at that

hmmmmm

one more:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5RbYovhI0g

HMMM! This recent 'v-blogger' has seen something in the NORTHERN SKY. Am I correct in thinking that 'all' the previous proclamations were pointing at the SOUTHERN SKY? The northern ICE is melting very rapidly.

I'll be having a good look at the northern horizon tonight, if it stays clear.