Possible deep insider on another forum right now.

Jogy · 10-23-2008, 01:33 PM

Hiya, I don't like to spam another site but i think this could be of assistance to the people here.

Look at the topic Here And specifically the OP and the follow up on posts of Hidden_hand

He has interesting things to say and will stay untill friday. It may be a hoaxer, but to be honest i do not think so and the reason he stated why he is doing this 'session' does make sense on some levels (retaining balans and free will can only be done with the availability of information) It sheds a whole new light on the 'evil doers' behind the scenes. I will collect and package the topic when he is done to keep it safe 'just in case'. He has some disturbing and uplifting things to share with us, look for yourselves and let me know if it rings true with any of you.

Antaletriangle · 10-23-2008, 01:43 PM

This is hidden hand's opening sequence:
I am a generational member of a Ruling Bloodline Family.

Every so often, as per the directives of the Law of our Creator, a brief window of opportunity opens, whereby a select handful of our Family are required to make communication with our subjects, and offer you the chance to ask us any questions you would like answered.

I am double-bound in this duty. It is required of me by The Law of our Creator to offer this opportunity to you at this time, though I am also bound by the Law of (planetary) Free Will and by Family Oaths, that there is only so much I am able to say.

Rules define life in games.

If you wish to participate, here they are:

1). I will afford you courtesy and respect in the manner I address you, and I expect the same from you in reciprocation.

2). I will decide whether or not I am either willing or permitted to answer your question. If your question is not answered, it is either because I cannot disclose it, or because I considered your question was lacking in one or more of the following: respect, courtesy, intelligence, decency, or that it was otherwise unworthy of being dignified with a response.

3). That you agree to treat this potential dialogue with an aspect of "provisional faith". In practice, this means that rather than impeding the flow of information with crass comments of disbelief or petty name calling, my participation here requires of you that you discourse with me under "suspended judgment". In other words, wait until the process is complete, before deciding for yourself as to the content of truth and knowledge imparted herein.

4). That you formulate your questions intelligently. My time is limited. I do not want to waste it by having to trawl through pointless, futile, insensible or disrespectful questions, therefore I will answer the questions I feel are most deserving of a response, during the time that I have available. Use the time we have wisely.

If any of the above conditions are breached, I reserve the right to terminate our discourse forthwith, if I so choose.

That being said, I will attempt to answer your questions as honestly and openly as is permissible for me. I will check back and respond as time allows.

He replies here saying that rivers spring from oceans!?I may be too pedantic-but should be more accurate if the person concerned was of 'bloodline'.
Hidden hand:
Yes, as I say, knowing the line is of no practical use to you. It is the belonging to the Family that is important.
There are 13 'base' or 'core' original bloodlines. Yet there are many many other lines that spring from these, as do rivers from the oceans. If you imagine the 13 Original lines as Primary colour, that can be mixed to create a vast array of other colours, then you will have some comprehension. Again, no competition, just Family.
No competition in the sense of House against House, though it is a 'dog eat dog' world. So there is interpersonal competition in that sense of the word. Everyone wants to move up. Our whole Familial society is geared that way, toward upward progression.

Thanks for these links JOGY-interesting.

arcora · 10-23-2008, 01:51 PM

A reptilian speaks on ATS. How droll.

Antaletriangle · 10-23-2008, 02:01 PM

I'd give it a read either way arcora,however i understand exactly what you mean.Hidden hand talks about ATS being the most 'intelligent' forum and we are now in the time of 'the great harvest' and they need the world to be negatively polarised when this happens;goes on to say we're doing a great job of this and truly thanks all of humanity for our evils on each other!etc.etc.

arcora · 10-23-2008, 02:05 PM

I read it. Lies mixed with truth designed to deceive. Reptillianspeak.

Antaletriangle · 10-23-2008, 02:12 PM

In agreement mate-i love how they try their best;it's nowhere near good enough to turn me from the light but i also understand that on a spiritual level what we perceive as evil can sometimes be for the benefit of humanity-like when your mother told you as a kid-have to be cruel to be kind,slapping the wrists when messing with matches-at the time in your youth it's perceived as an hostile act from your parents but it's their way of stopping it happening again for your own survival..I find the posting by hidden hand quite interesting-we do have to see everything from different viewpoints otherwise there'd be no use in us being here.Be good to each other and love is the main objective.
Hidden hand:
Another excellent (and very insightful) question. Thank you.
The higher the quality of the question, the more depth I can give to my answer. It all has to do with the Laws of Confusion and Free Will.

Yes, the noonday Winter Solstice Sun of December 21st, 2012 is the time when the Lord of The Harvest shall return. You might know him as "Nibiru".

seekur3 · 10-23-2008, 02:12 PM

"Rules define life in games." says it all. We do have FREE WILL to choose to play their game or not.
It's time for thinking humans to walk the walk, past the talk.

Seth Haniel · 10-23-2008, 02:27 PM

listening to John Lear and I think that ATS should be given a wide berth by people who want the facts

10-23-2008, 02:31 PM

He really is pushing my buttons this guy (well I presume its a guy)

quote:
I will decide whether or not I am either willing or permitted to answer your question. If your question is not answered, it is either because I cannot disclose it, or because I considered your question was lacking in one or more of the following: respect, courtesy, intelligence, decency, or that it was otherwise unworthy of being dignified with a response.

His kidding isn't he, please tell me his kidding.

Antaletriangle · 10-23-2008, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuza

He really is pushing my buttons this guy (well I presume its a guy)

quote:
I will decide whether or not I am either willing or permitted to answer your question. If your question is not answered, it is either because I cannot disclose it, or because I considered your question was lacking in one or more of the following: respect, courtesy, intelligence, decency, or that it was otherwise unworthy of being dignified with a response.

His kidding isn't he, please tell me his kidding.

After reading this, well,last page now i find it very informative and rings a true bell in many areas.It's all about positive service to each other,thanks for the post again JOGY

Hidden hand quote:
"Thank you. We are aware of Project Camelot. They are doing some remarkable work. Though I was not aware they also have a forum, if that's what you are suggesting? Not really my area usually, dealing with the internet. In fact I rarely have time to even venture onto it. I have quite enjoyed this time of relating to others over "cyber-space".

Well, if you're game for an "assignment", or maybe someone else if you haven't the time, I would be happy for someone to collate this topic (minus the "interruptions") so that the message appears with just the actual flow of questions and answers, and post it there in one piece, if you so desire. As I mentioned before, I chose ATS as I was reliably informed that it is one of the forums with a higher rate of intelligence and reasoning amongst it's members. On the whole, from my experience here, I would tend to agree.
Though if you think it would be of value to Camelot, by all means you are most welcome to spread this message. The more people it can reach, the better."

arcora · 10-23-2008, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antaletriangle

After reading this, well,last page now i find it very informative and rings a true bell in many areas.It's all about positive service to each other,thanks for the post again JOGY

Hidden hand quote:
"Thank you. We are aware of Project Camelot. They are doing some remarkable work. Though I was not aware they also have a forum, if that's what you are suggesting? Not really my area usually, dealing with the internet. In fact I rarely have time to even venture onto it. I have quite enjoyed this time of relating to others over "cyber-space".

Well, if you're game for an "assignment", or maybe someone else if you haven't the time, I would be happy for someone to collate this topic (minus the "interruptions") so that the message appears with just the actual flow of questions and answers, and post it there in one piece, if you so desire. As I mentioned before, I chose ATS as I was reliably informed that it is one of the forums with a higher rate of intelligence and reasoning amongst it's members. On the whole, from my experience here, I would tend to agree.
Though if you think it would be of value to Camelot, by all means you are most welcome to spread this message. The more people it can reach, the better."

So a little flattery and some go running to take advice from reptilians?

THE eXchanger · 10-23-2008, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arcora

So a little flattery and some go running to take advice from reptilians?

you might be shocked one day to find out,
you have "one" dna strand, and, it is "reptilian"

how you play that "one" strand,
makes all the difference in the world

as long, as you, have "charge" or "issue" with something
you will never transcend it

love
susan
the eXchanger

samncheese · 10-23-2008, 05:35 PM

It doesn't matter what DNA anyone has, that is elitism. It is what is in your heart that matters. Not all reptiles are bad, not all humans are good.

peace be with you

arcora · 10-23-2008, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eXchanger

you might be shocked one day to find out,
you have "one" dna strand, and, it is "reptilian"

how you play that "one" strand,
makes all the difference in the world

as long, as you, have "charge" or "issue" with something
you will never transcend it

love
susan
the eXchanger

And you may be shocked one day to find out that it isn't only humans who lie, and captors have no interest in teaching captives how to escape.

Knightbk · 10-23-2008, 09:01 PM

More **** for the sheeples to believe in.

Wake up people. This isn't real.

We are in a cyclical downturn. It isn't the end of the world.

Sick of fear? Then stop scaring yourselves with this stupid ****. God.

Jogy · 10-23-2008, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knightbk

More **** for the sheeples to believe in.

Wake up people. This isn't real.

We are in a cyclical downturn. It isn't the end of the world.

Sick of fear? Then stop scaring yourselves with this stupid ****. God.

If you read it carefully you could read there is nothing at all to be afraid of. The ones trying to destroy our soul-energy needs the people to be scared withless for it to work and what he is saying is counterproductive for the said goal.

Fredkc · 10-23-2008, 11:20 PM

ok, Veni Vidi, took some notes.

Now, it was really my first day reading over at the ATS forum, so I don't have a feel, or a sense of what the place is like.

First thing that struck me was this li'l bit. and I have only read of this in two places. See what ya think:

Quote:

@ ATS:
There will be dramatic changes to your climate and weather conditions over the next few years, as the time of the Great Harvest approaches. You will see windspeeds surpassing 300 miles per hour at times. There will be raging tsunamis and widespread devastation; and a solar emission in late 2009 early 2010 that will cause major melting of the ice caps, and subsequent drastic rise in sea levels, leaving many (international) metropolitan areas underwater.

And then there is....

Quote:

@ Camelot, G. Green interview:
KC: But, there’s going to be like solar flares, it’s...
GG: Solar flares - that’s just energy coming out. Remember the sun works on this, it’s putting out frequency of light. When the light hits something, the atoms start to vibrate which creates the heat.
KC: Right.
GG: Doesn’t create it at the sun.
KC: But, what I’m talking about is that what they’ve been talking about coming, to hit this, you know, to hit the Earth, and so on, are the solar flares that are going to make life very uncomfortable and...
GG: That’s part of it. That’s the reason why we start looking at the underground facilities or something close to that.

GG: [Shows photographs of domes.] Now you have something that - the structure will be able to withstand 340 mph winds that are coming... that will be coming to us. This structure here, you can heat it with about ten hundred-watt light bulbs. So, you don't have any energy use.

The biggest problem with these units, at this minute, is that since the air is basically stagnated, you have to have circulating of the air and then the humidity's always at least 50%. So you have to address that, but we have a lot ways to cure all that problem. Meanwhile, it doesn't take anything to heat them. They'll withstand anything. The only thing that concerns me is that a lot of stuff, nothing's going to withstand the winds that are going to be coming down to us very shortly.

GG: It’s not, so they, they’ve built, yeah, they got underground facilities, so, let’s laugh about it. We have the information, we’re going to have to be, like the picture I showed you, somewhat above ground in the side of the hill or something so you have access. You’re going to have to build greenhouses in order offset these things and the greenhouses are going to be designed in a way to withstand these winds that are going to be created by all of this - the changes that’s happening. I mean, we’re going to have, I mean Mount Baldy in California, you know where that’s at...
KC: Yeah.
GG: Yeah, 212 mph winds for a week up there at the top. Same thing at both poles. Well, we got, now we got what, hurricanes hitting 250 and 300 mph, wiping out all over the - we don’t know where it’s going to be safe. I do know because of the mountain ranges where I am right now and I ask about where is safe. For my job, I could have went to Four Corners, I looked at all of that.

The rest of the guy's stuff I saved off to a file to look at later.

Being a jaded old fart, whose been to 3 too many seances, I can't get too excited. With just that to look at, I can't yet sound the source of his information, and I won't judge his heart. so Quien Sabe?

RSF · 10-23-2008, 11:50 PM

Hi all,
Seems these days most anything outside of out-of-this-world seems to originate from ATS, pitty. Under Simon Gray it used to be a greatly respected place to dwell.. now what? There are far more sincere and gratifying places to be online and seems ATS is doing whatever it can to bring back those who are in search for answers after leaving an online dictatorship. Many years but I still remember that Septicoverlord dude.

RSF

Magamud · 10-24-2008, 12:21 AM

It reminded me of the RA material years ago. Sounds good to me from what i can feel of other densities. Im so stuck in fighting all the tyranny around me that im loosing my ability to think on multidimensional dramas. Is this spiritual heirarchy stuff to redirect me from taking action in this physical world, stopping tyranny in my community? Will I become just a hatefull, spitefull person without thinking and believing in spiritual concepts? Whew, im trying to balance both right now. Im in ebb and flow right now but im being conservative with all this harvest information.

GregorArturo · 10-24-2008, 12:28 AM

Now what's interesting is on ATS the conversation seems to focus much more on a hoaxer when it comes to the negative comments. On Camelot, it focuses more on that it's info to deceive us, implying from the best I can guess that it's the real deal. Also, what's interesting, no one has been talking about his style of writing on Camelot (which is very eloquently written IMO). I recommend that people not only as the facts or 'truths' within the conversation but the whole context of the moment at hand. There's more underlying pyschology to it, and I really think Hidden Hand summed it up actually perfectly with what's happening with this discussion: It is a catalyst.

And for that reason alone, whether the information be true or not, one should analyze this situation so the catalyst can benefit you in a positive way. Things happen for a reason. The question is if you are willing to recognize it.

Quarian · 10-24-2008, 03:08 AM

Much of this rings true to me, but I'm a cynic. As I read H-H's posts, I am reminded of the writing styles of two people: "John Titor" and.... (ducking).... David Wilcock. Anyone else note the number of shout-outs he makes to "Ra"?

Jogy · 10-24-2008, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quarian

Much of this rings true to me, but I'm a cynic. As I read H-H's posts, I am reminded of the writing styles of two people: "John Titor" and.... (ducking).... David Wilcock. Anyone else note the number of shout-outs he makes to "Ra"?

Jup, he made me look for the books online and am reading them now. Good stuff!

dayzero · 10-24-2008, 10:10 AM

Such food for thought....So many interesing points.....BUT

"There were Ruling-Bloodlines long before your 'Yahweh' and his 'Christianity' arrived on this planet."

hmmm.

So why mention Yaweh? A bit recent in the timeline isn't it?......as if he's only aiming for Christians.

I don't think he's what he says he is, but he's a player.

Anyone read Paradise Lost? I skimmed it.

munkey · 10-24-2008, 10:22 AM

Quote:

@ ATS:
There will be dramatic changes to your climate and weather conditions over the next few years, as the time of the Great Harvest approaches. You will see windspeeds surpassing 300 miles per hour at times. There will be raging tsunamis and widespread devastation; and a solar emission in late 2009 early 2010 that will cause major melting of the ice caps, and subsequent drastic rise in sea levels, leaving many (international) metropolitan areas underwater.

From my understanding, if you fill up a glass of water and place ice in it until it almost over flows, when the ice melts, the water doesn't spill out.

even if the poles melted it would not cause the water to rise dramatically.
the change in air temperature would cause the rise of the sea level

dayzero · 10-24-2008, 11:30 AM

GregorArturo, i think you have it sir, and very eloquently put yourself!

The entire post is pushing some very interesting buttons.

Some thoughts.......

-There is a wild disconnect between the positive aspects and the passages about Yaweh and Christianity, Adam & Eve etc. I'm still thinking on it, but what's the big deal with this timeframe? What about the more ancient cosmonogies?

- Following on form that, how can our creators be so different, if the planetary Holon is as he explains it to be. Doesn't quite add up.
No mention of Galactic need for balance either.

-Also this bad Dimension where they take the negative 95%, well there seems an awful lot of justification for that in the text. the New Paradigm warnings about attempts to polarise the whole system come to mind. Perhaps he doth protest too much?

- Finally, the premise on which the communications is based is that;

<"Every so often, as per the directives of the Law of our Creator, a brief window of opportunity opens, whereby a select handful of our Family are required to make communication with our subjects, and offer you the chance to ask us any questions you would like answered.
I am double-bound in this duty. It is required of me by The Law of our Creator to offer this opportunity to you at this time, though I am also bound by the Law of (planetary) Free Will and by Family Oaths, that there is only so much I am able to say.">

I'd have thought that the authority would come not from his [different] creator, but from the Council of Elders whom he mentions later.

Notice the phrase 'Window of Opportunity' [the thread name of the OP], and the mention of that same phrase in the last passages in Messages For The GC.

In my dreams last night there was an awful lot of movement from within what i saw as ancient physical structures that stretched into the ground as well as on the surface. I woke up, as usual these days, at 4 am, then went straight back to what was goin on in the dreams, which is rare for me. That's the only way I can put it. Like mechanisms triggering. Everywhere.
I woke up elated by the way.

Wishing you all a pleasant day!

10-23-2008, 01:33 PM	#1
Jogy Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Netherlands Posts: 20	Possible deep insider on another forum right now. Hiya, I don't like to spam another site but i think this could be of assistance to the people here. Look at the topic Here And specifically the OP and the follow up on posts of Hidden_hand He has interesting things to say and will stay untill friday. It may be a hoaxer, but to be honest i do not think so and the reason he stated why he is doing this 'session' does make sense on some levels (retaining balans and free will can only be done with the availability of information) It sheds a whole new light on the 'evil doers' behind the scenes. I will collect and package the topic when he is done to keep it safe 'just in case'. He has some disturbing and uplifting things to share with us, look for yourselves and let me know if it rings true with any of you.

10-23-2008, 01:43 PM	#2
Antaletriangle Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: U.K. Posts: 3,380	Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now. This is hidden hand's opening sequence: I am a generational member of a Ruling Bloodline Family. Every so often, as per the directives of the Law of our Creator, a brief window of opportunity opens, whereby a select handful of our Family are required to make communication with our subjects, and offer you the chance to ask us any questions you would like answered. I am double-bound in this duty. It is required of me by The Law of our Creator to offer this opportunity to you at this time, though I am also bound by the Law of (planetary) Free Will and by Family Oaths, that there is only so much I am able to say. Rules define life in games. If you wish to participate, here they are: 1). I will afford you courtesy and respect in the manner I address you, and I expect the same from you in reciprocation. 2). I will decide whether or not I am either willing or permitted to answer your question. If your question is not answered, it is either because I cannot disclose it, or because I considered your question was lacking in one or more of the following: respect, courtesy, intelligence, decency, or that it was otherwise unworthy of being dignified with a response. 3). That you agree to treat this potential dialogue with an aspect of "provisional faith". In practice, this means that rather than impeding the flow of information with crass comments of disbelief or petty name calling, my participation here requires of you that you discourse with me under "suspended judgment". In other words, wait until the process is complete, before deciding for yourself as to the content of truth and knowledge imparted herein. 4). That you formulate your questions intelligently. My time is limited. I do not want to waste it by having to trawl through pointless, futile, insensible or disrespectful questions, therefore I will answer the questions I feel are most deserving of a response, during the time that I have available. Use the time we have wisely. If any of the above conditions are breached, I reserve the right to terminate our discourse forthwith, if I so choose. That being said, I will attempt to answer your questions as honestly and openly as is permissible for me. I will check back and respond as time allows. He replies here saying that rivers spring from oceans!?I may be too pedantic-but should be more accurate if the person concerned was of 'bloodline'. Hidden hand: Yes, as I say, knowing the line is of no practical use to you. It is the belonging to the Family that is important. There are 13 'base' or 'core' original bloodlines. Yet there are many many other lines that spring from these, as do rivers from the oceans. If you imagine the 13 Original lines as Primary colour, that can be mixed to create a vast array of other colours, then you will have some comprehension. Again, no competition, just Family. No competition in the sense of House against House, though it is a 'dog eat dog' world. So there is interpersonal competition in that sense of the word. Everyone wants to move up. Our whole Familial society is geared that way, toward upward progression. Thanks for these links JOGY-interesting.

10-23-2008, 01:51 PM	#3
arcora Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 696	Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now. A reptilian speaks on ATS. How droll.

10-23-2008, 02:01 PM	#4
Antaletriangle Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: U.K. Posts: 3,380	Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now. I'd give it a read either way arcora,however i understand exactly what you mean.Hidden hand talks about ATS being the most 'intelligent' forum and we are now in the time of 'the great harvest' and they need the world to be negatively polarised when this happens;goes on to say we're doing a great job of this and truly thanks all of humanity for our evils on each other!etc.etc.

10-23-2008, 02:05 PM	#5
arcora Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 696	Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now. I read it. Lies mixed with truth designed to deceive. Reptillianspeak.

10-23-2008, 02:12 PM	#6
Antaletriangle Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: U.K. Posts: 3,380	Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now. In agreement mate-i love how they try their best;it's nowhere near good enough to turn me from the light but i also understand that on a spiritual level what we perceive as evil can sometimes be for the benefit of humanity-like when your mother told you as a kid-have to be cruel to be kind,slapping the wrists when messing with matches-at the time in your youth it's perceived as an hostile act from your parents but it's their way of stopping it happening again for your own survival..I find the posting by hidden hand quite interesting-we do have to see everything from different viewpoints otherwise there'd be no use in us being here.Be good to each other and love is the main objective. Hidden hand: Another excellent (and very insightful) question. Thank you. The higher the quality of the question, the more depth I can give to my answer. It all has to do with the Laws of Confusion and Free Will. Yes, the noonday Winter Solstice Sun of December 21st, 2012 is the time when the Lord of The Harvest shall return. You might know him as "Nibiru". Last edited by Antaletriangle; 10-23-2008 at 02:51 PM.

10-23-2008, 02:12 PM	#7
seekur3 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 30	Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now. "Rules define life in games." says it all. We do have FREE WILL to choose to play their game or not. It's time for thinking humans to walk the walk, past the talk.

10-23-2008, 02:27 PM	#8
Seth Haniel Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Hartlepool England But Moving Shortly to Fauldhouse Scotland Posts: 172	Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now. listening to John Lear and I think that ATS should be given a wide berth by people who want the facts

10-23-2008, 02:31 PM	#9
Tuza Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now. He really is pushing my buttons this guy (well I presume its a guy) quote: I will decide whether or not I am either willing or permitted to answer your question. If your question is not answered, it is either because I cannot disclose it, or because I considered your question was lacking in one or more of the following: respect, courtesy, intelligence, decency, or that it was otherwise unworthy of being dignified with a response. His kidding isn't he, please tell me his kidding.

10-23-2008, 05:35 PM	#13
samncheese Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Puyallup, Washington state Posts: 138	Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now. It doesn't matter what DNA anyone has, that is elitism. It is what is in your heart that matters. Not all reptiles are bad, not all humans are good. peace be with you

10-23-2008, 09:01 PM	#15
Knightbk Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 73	Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now. More ** for the sheeples to believe in. Wake up people. This isn't real. We are in a cyclical downturn. It isn't the end of the world. Sick of fear? Then stop scaring yourselves with this stupid **. God.

10-23-2008, 11:50 PM	#18
RSF Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 226	Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now. Hi all, Seems these days most anything outside of out-of-this-world seems to originate from ATS, pitty. Under Simon Gray it used to be a greatly respected place to dwell.. now what? There are far more sincere and gratifying places to be online and seems ATS is doing whatever it can to bring back those who are in search for answers after leaving an online dictatorship. Many years but I still remember that Septicoverlord dude. RSF

10-24-2008, 12:21 AM	#19
Magamud Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Carolina Posts: 288	Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now. It reminded me of the RA material years ago. Sounds good to me from what i can feel of other densities. Im so stuck in fighting all the tyranny around me that im loosing my ability to think on multidimensional dramas. Is this spiritual heirarchy stuff to redirect me from taking action in this physical world, stopping tyranny in my community? Will I become just a hatefull, spitefull person without thinking and believing in spiritual concepts? Whew, im trying to balance both right now. Im in ebb and flow right now but im being conservative with all this harvest information.

10-24-2008, 12:28 AM	#20
GregorArturo Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Southern Maine Posts: 560	Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now. Now what's interesting is on ATS the conversation seems to focus much more on a hoaxer when it comes to the negative comments. On Camelot, it focuses more on that it's info to deceive us, implying from the best I can guess that it's the real deal. Also, what's interesting, no one has been talking about his style of writing on Camelot (which is very eloquently written IMO). I recommend that people not only as the facts or 'truths' within the conversation but the whole context of the moment at hand. There's more underlying pyschology to it, and I really think Hidden Hand summed it up actually perfectly with what's happening with this discussion: It is a catalyst. And for that reason alone, whether the information be true or not, one should analyze this situation so the catalyst can benefit you in a positive way. Things happen for a reason. The question is if you are willing to recognize it.

10-24-2008, 03:08 AM	#21
Quarian Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Iowa Posts: 3	Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now. Much of this rings true to me, but I'm a cynic. As I read H-H's posts, I am reminded of the writing styles of two people: "John Titor" and.... (ducking).... David Wilcock. Anyone else note the number of shout-outs he makes to "Ra"?

10-24-2008, 10:10 AM	#23
dayzero Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Southern England Posts: 458	Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now. Such food for thought....So many interesing points.....BUT "There were Ruling-Bloodlines long before your 'Yahweh' and his 'Christianity' arrived on this planet." hmmm. So why mention Yaweh? A bit recent in the timeline isn't it?......as if he's only aiming for Christians. I don't think he's what he says he is, but he's a player. Anyone read Paradise Lost? I skimmed it.

10-24-2008, 11:30 AM	#25
dayzero Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Southern England Posts: 458	Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now. GregorArturo, i think you have it sir, and very eloquently put yourself! The entire post is pushing some very interesting buttons. Some thoughts....... -There is a wild disconnect between the positive aspects and the passages about Yaweh and Christianity, Adam & Eve etc. I'm still thinking on it, but what's the big deal with this timeframe? What about the more ancient cosmonogies? - Following on form that, how can our creators be so different, if the planetary Holon is as he explains it to be. Doesn't quite add up. No mention of Galactic need for balance either. -Also this bad Dimension where they take the negative 95%, well there seems an awful lot of justification for that in the text. the New Paradigm warnings about attempts to polarise the whole system come to mind. Perhaps he doth protest too much? - Finally, the premise on which the communications is based is that; <"Every so often, as per the directives of the Law of our Creator, a brief window of opportunity opens, whereby a select handful of our Family are required to make communication with our subjects, and offer you the chance to ask us any questions you would like answered. I am double-bound in this duty. It is required of me by The Law of our Creator to offer this opportunity to you at this time, though I am also bound by the Law of (planetary) Free Will and by Family Oaths, that there is only so much I am able to say."> I'd have thought that the authority would come not from his [different] creator, but from the Council of Elders whom he mentions later. Notice the phrase 'Window of Opportunity' [the thread name of the OP], and the mention of that same phrase in the last passages in Messages For The GC. In my dreams last night there was an awful lot of movement from within what i saw as ancient physical structures that stretched into the ground as well as on the surface. I woke up, as usual these days, at 4 am, then went straight back to what was goin on in the dreams, which is rare for me. That's the only way I can put it. Like mechanisms triggering. Everywhere. I woke up elated by the way. Wishing you all a pleasant day!