Is 2009 actually 2012 ???

divinethread · 10-17-2008, 08:27 PM

I recently watched stewart swerdlow' video on google and something he said that perked my ears. He mentioned some king who in 1363 in honour of his coronation declared that the next year will be 1366.

I tried to find out who this king was and double check this info but haven't got any leads as yet.
But if we give Mr. Swerdlow the benefit of the doubt wouldn't next year be 2012 ???
And the rate at which the world elite are going all out currently visible in the Financial sector kinda adds to this supposition, "what's the big rush" ???
Any New Input on this King and the date mystery would be appreciated.

10-17-2008, 08:30 PM

In my mind it would put us backwards to about 2005

divinethread · 10-17-2008, 08:39 PM

In my mind it would put us backwards to about 2005
HOW?? BACKWARDS IT LOOKS FORWARD TO ME...
1364 became 1366
So
1999 became 2001
And
2009 becomes 2012

That's how he had put it, the reason why I want to be doubly sure.

Oneworld_onemind · 10-17-2008, 08:46 PM

If 1363 became 1366 then.. We are now in 2008, but this would really not be 2008, it would be 2005 because we are 3 years ahead because of the stupidity of that king..

It seems logical to me that we are then in 2005 (if the king would have not change anything.. ).

Orion11 · 10-17-2008, 08:50 PM

yeah, the true calendar was changed to gregorian,
making it a bit off.

ill say

lets hope this is the case!! lol...............i think..........
<3

thanks for the post.

Steven · 10-17-2008, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oneworld_onemind

If 1363 became 1366 then.. We are now in 2008, but this would really not be 2008, it would be 2005 because we are 3 years ahead because of the stupidity of that king..

It seems logical to me that we are then in 2005 (if the king would have not change anything.. ).

Yes, if it did happened like the OP says, we are in 2005, not 2008. But I really doubt it. I also doubt about our supposedly calendar synchronization with the Mayan's.

There are a bunch of all sorts of information on this topic. Even one saying that the Mayan 2012 is our year 2024. We cannot put our trust into only one information.

Namaste, Steven

10-17-2008, 09:08 PM

Just to muddy the waters a little more, Calleman's evolution of consciousness (which Ian Lungold based his work on) puts the beginning of the final underworld at Feb 10th 2011, with 13 day and night cycles of 20 days each. Haven't worked it out exactly but I believe it puts the end of the evolution somewhere in November 2011.

http://www.mayanmajix.com/TZOLKIN/DT/DT.html

10-17-2008, 09:10 PM

yep, there it goes, my tiny brain just exploded...

divinethread · 10-17-2008, 09:18 PM

Whoaaa
What are you trying to do :wall1:

indakaz · 10-17-2008, 09:37 PM

Actually, the time is NOW it always has been and always will be right NOW, don't you see? this is essential understanding if you wish to gain wisdom. if you wish to change what NOW is like than start changing it, you can NOT wait for it to change, you must change it NOW.

Steven · 10-17-2008, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by indakaz

Actually, the time is NOW it always has been and always will be right NOW, don't you see? this is essential understanding if you wish to gain wisdom. if you wish to change what NOW is like than start changing it, you can NOT wait for it to change, you must change it NOW.

Indeed. Totally agree. It is not a matter of when it will happen, it is happening. What matters is; Are we ready to make the shift? And I'm not talking about outside event.

Namaste, Steven

divinethread · 10-17-2008, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven

Indeed. Totally agree. It is not a matter of when it will happen, it is happening. What matters is; Are we ready to make the shift? And I'm not talking about outside event.

Namaste, Steven

I feel we are past the point of "ready or not".
The following lyrics come to mind ' ready or not here I come...'

Humble Janitor · 10-23-2008, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by divinethread

I feel we are past the point of "ready or not".
The following lyrics come to mind ' ready or not here I come...'

Same here. I'm pretty sure the "fight or flight" mechanism is still present in most people and if **** hits the fan, people will hopefully know what to do. I know that I do.

Reunite · 10-23-2008, 09:48 PM

Don't forget about Terrence Mckenna'a novelty theory. The fractual waveform he calls Time wave zero through numerical patterns in the King Wen sequence of the I Ching progressing towards the infinity on 21st December 2012

Carol · 10-23-2008, 07:56 AM

According to Bob Dean, this is 2015. Christ was born 7 years earleir on March 1st. He also said Nibiru would be here in 3 years in 2017/18 but to expect the full effect by 2020 which is 2013 for the time line we are working off of.

Jeff Delano · 10-18-2008, 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by indakaz

Actually, the time is NOW it always has been and always will be right NOW, don't you see? this is essential understanding if you wish to gain wisdom. if you wish to change what NOW is like than start changing it, you can NOT wait for it to change, you must change it NOW.

I don't understand...

divinethread · 10-18-2008, 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Delano

I don't understand...

I think I know what u mean. This explanation was way too New Age for me. Open ended answers leave u more confused than before.

But I think what it means is 'it doesn't matter when 2009, 10, 11 or 12. It's when u trully desire it to be.'
Hope that makes some sense...

aliantha · 10-17-2008, 09:38 PM

Im glad I caught this thread because I also saw Stewarts vid yesterday and thought the same thing, Im sure the king was mentioned, sorry I dont remember it though

There is nothing negative about 2012 as far as Im concerned, there is even talk about the sun being a black hole/portal as Nassim Harrimen says, perhaps we all go through it?We dont die anyway, only our bodies wear out

divinethread · 10-17-2008, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aliantha

Im glad I caught this thread because I also saw Stewarts vid yesterday and thought the same thing, Im sure the king was mentioned, sorry I dont remember it though

There is nothing negative about 2012 as far as Im concerned, there is even talk about the sun being a black hole/portal as Nassim Harrimen says, perhaps we all go through it?We dont die anyway, only our bodies wear out

Don't get me wrong I don't think 2012 is negative.
I don't feel, hope or believe -- I know it's going to be a positive change. I'm so excited I wish it was tomorrow.

And Nassim is a brilliant man, I haven't found a single hole in his theory as yet rather every day I find things that confirm his conclusions even more.

10-17-2008, 10:07 PM

It doesn't really matter does it? Nobody can even agree on what, if anything, is going to happen in 2012. That being the case, does it make any difference when 2012 actually is?

I'm with indakaz- 2012 is now. That way, when whatever will happen happens, you're already as prepared as you're ever going to be.

See? Simple. Oooh, new smileys!

:wall1:

divinethread · 10-17-2008, 10:18 PM

Yeah NOW sounds good
NOW ---- WON

BeaTnik-BandiT · 10-17-2008, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunrunner

It doesn't really matter does it? Nobody can even agree on what, if anything, is going to happen in 2012. That being the case, does it make any difference when 2012 actually is?

I'm with indakaz- 2012 is now. That way, when whatever will happen happens, you're already as prepared as you're ever going to be.

See? Simple. Oooh, new smileys!

:wall1:

Hehe, agreed. One has just to be aware that from NOW and for the next 10 years and so on, there is a 'window opening'.
But the time is NOW.

It's good you brought Calleman under the light cause he says that the end of the Mayan calendar is: October 28th 2011.
His theory makes sense to me.

See here:

http://www.calleman.com/content/arti...tioncycles.htm

Elephant Man · 10-17-2008, 10:29 PM

Time for bed methinks

Luigis Mushroom · 10-17-2008, 10:36 PM

None of this matters we're already galactically aligned and have been for some time, exact years aren't important.

tone3jaguar · 10-17-2008, 11:08 PM

Even if this is actually 2012 on the un-modified Gregorian Calendar it does not matter. The celestial reference points used to come up with the Mayan Calendar ending Dec.21 2012 where arrived at in the 20th century. Now if they had discovered how to decode the calendar back before the modification of the Gregorian, then we might have something to be worried about.

10-17-2008, 08:27 PM	#1
divinethread Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Bombay - India Posts: 27	Is 2009 actually 2012 ??? I recently watched stewart swerdlow' video on google and something he said that perked my ears. He mentioned some king who in 1363 in honour of his coronation declared that the next year will be 1366. I tried to find out who this king was and double check this info but haven't got any leads as yet. But if we give Mr. Swerdlow the benefit of the doubt wouldn't next year be 2012 ??? And the rate at which the world elite are going all out currently visible in the Financial sector kinda adds to this supposition, "what's the big rush" ??? Any New Input on this King and the date mystery would be appreciated.

10-17-2008, 08:30 PM	#2
Donny Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Is 2009 actually 2012 ??? In my mind it would put us backwards to about 2005

10-17-2008, 08:39 PM	#3
divinethread Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Bombay - India Posts: 27	Re: Is 2009 actually 2012 ??? In my mind it would put us backwards to about 2005 HOW?? BACKWARDS IT LOOKS FORWARD TO ME... 1364 became 1366 So 1999 became 2001 And 2009 becomes 2012 That's how he had put it, the reason why I want to be doubly sure.

10-17-2008, 08:46 PM	#4
Oneworld_onemind Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 4	Re: Is 2009 actually 2012 ??? If 1363 became 1366 then.. We are now in 2008, but this would really not be 2008, it would be 2005 because we are 3 years ahead because of the stupidity of that king.. It seems logical to me that we are then in 2005 (if the king would have not change anything.. ).

10-17-2008, 08:50 PM	#5
Orion11 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,098	Re: Is 2009 actually 2012 ??? yeah, the true calendar was changed to gregorian, making it a bit off. ill say lets hope this is the case!! lol...............i think.......... <3 thanks for the post.

10-17-2008, 09:08 PM	#7
Steve_G Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Is 2009 actually 2012 ??? Just to muddy the waters a little more, Calleman's evolution of consciousness (which Ian Lungold based his work on) puts the beginning of the final underworld at Feb 10th 2011, with 13 day and night cycles of 20 days each. Haven't worked it out exactly but I believe it puts the end of the evolution somewhere in November 2011. http://www.mayanmajix.com/TZOLKIN/DT/DT.html

10-17-2008, 09:10 PM	#8
Donny Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Is 2009 actually 2012 ??? yep, there it goes, my tiny brain just exploded...

10-17-2008, 09:18 PM	#9
divinethread Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Bombay - India Posts: 27	Re: Is 2009 actually 2012 ??? Whoaaa What are you trying to do :wall1:

10-17-2008, 09:37 PM	#10
indakaz Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 62	Re: Is 2009 actually 2012 ??? Actually, the time is NOW it always has been and always will be right NOW, don't you see? this is essential understanding if you wish to gain wisdom. if you wish to change what NOW is like than start changing it, you can NOT wait for it to change, you must change it NOW.

10-23-2008, 09:48 PM	#14
Reunite Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 279	Re: Is 2009 actually 2012 ??? Don't forget about Terrence Mckenna'a novelty theory. The fractual waveform he calls Time wave zero through numerical patterns in the King Wen sequence of the I Ching progressing towards the infinity on 21st December 2012

10-23-2008, 07:56 AM	#15
Carol Project Avalon Hero Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Big Island, Hawaii Posts: 2,008	Re: Is 2009 actually 2012 ??? According to Bob Dean, this is 2015. Christ was born 7 years earleir on March 1st. He also said Nibiru would be here in 3 years in 2017/18 but to expect the full effect by 2020 which is 2013 for the time line we are working off of. __________________ Aloha, thank you, do jeh, toda, arigato, merci, grazie, salamat po, gracias, tack, sukria, danke schoen, kiitos, dank u, mahalo nui loa Images to nourish the spirit: http://mistsofavalon.invisionplus.ne...&showtopic=198

10-17-2008, 09:38 PM	#18
aliantha Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3	Re: Is 2009 actually 2012 ??? Im glad I caught this thread because I also saw Stewarts vid yesterday and thought the same thing, Im sure the king was mentioned, sorry I dont remember it though There is nothing negative about 2012 as far as Im concerned, there is even talk about the sun being a black hole/portal as Nassim Harrimen says, perhaps we all go through it?We dont die anyway, only our bodies wear out

10-17-2008, 10:07 PM	#20
Steve_G Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Is 2009 actually 2012 ??? It doesn't really matter does it? Nobody can even agree on what, if anything, is going to happen in 2012. That being the case, does it make any difference when 2012 actually is? I'm with indakaz- 2012 is now. That way, when whatever will happen happens, you're already as prepared as you're ever going to be. See? Simple. Oooh, new smileys! :wall1:

10-17-2008, 10:18 PM	#21
divinethread Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Bombay - India Posts: 27	Re: Is 2009 actually 2012 ??? Yeah NOW sounds good NOW ---- WON

10-17-2008, 10:29 PM	#23
Elephant Man Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 124	Re: Is 2009 actually 2012 ??? Time for bed methinks

10-17-2008, 10:36 PM	#24
Luigis Mushroom Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina Posts: 43	Re: Is 2009 actually 2012 ??? None of this matters we're already galactically aligned and have been for some time, exact years aren't important.

10-17-2008, 11:08 PM	#25
tone3jaguar Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: www.altimatrix.com Posts: 1,525	Re: Is 2009 actually 2012 ??? Even if this is actually 2012 on the un-modified Gregorian Calendar it does not matter. The celestial reference points used to come up with the Mayan Calendar ending Dec.21 2012 where arrived at in the 20th century. Now if they had discovered how to decode the calendar back before the modification of the Gregorian, then we might have something to be worried about.