Blondes,red heads, blue eyes, MK ULTRA, and the fringe

[clarkkent]

im trying to figure out why so many prominent figures in the fringe world both good (UFOlogy, metaphysical, spiritual,intuitives etc ) and bad ( illuminati,nazi,nordic ET's) as well as MK ultra victims, are mostly blondes/redheads with blue eyes, green eyes. im making this post because im trying to figure it out myself. i certainly dont believe all blondes and red heads are mind controlled, but it may be that something in their DNA allows them more sensitivity to the paranormal (hence all the inutiutives) as well as susceptibility to mind control.

when you look into it there really is a lack of asian, mediterreanean, native american, african etc.

heres an exceprt from a stuart swerdlow interview , he participated in the montauk experiment (mind control, genetic experimentation, time travel etc)

Earth has 6.3 Billion people, and the US has 280 Million.
1‐2% of the global population has specific Mind Control. 63‐126 Million People.
4‐5% of the US population has specific Mind Control. 12‐14 Million People.

Certain characteristics are better for different mind control. Most mind control is time
based. The characteristics they look for most for mind control are Blond Hair, Blue or
Green Eyed, people. Whether recessive or dominated gene It doesn’t matter. High IQ
people w/specific talents are also sought after.
Indigo is a code word for talented children to target.
The survey’s you have to take in school, and prior to getting a job are used to
categorize what your abilities are and what job you should do.*Eventually they want to
make it so everyone takes the test and the job it says is the job you do for life.

The*Illuminati members are 100% Mind Controlled. The Committee of 300 is also
100% Mind Controlled.
Some groups of people are very difficult to mind control, this is one reason Africa, and
blacks in general are targeted. Native Americans are also difficult to mind control.


blossom goodchild

cathy obrien MK ultra victim

amaorah quan yi (pleidian author)

doreen virtue (indigo children author/intuitive)


james gilliland (pleidian contactee/intuitive)

dr steven greer (contactee/intuitive)

barabara marciniak (pleiadian contactee/intuitive)

regina cantina (conscious media network/intuitive)

barbara hand clow (pledian author/inuitive)

david wilcock (intuitive/fringe researcher)

marilyn monroe (mk ultra/monarch program victim)

lydia hearst (illuminati heiress to the hearst empire)

( a group called "ETfriends")


Bill and Kerry , researchers and creators of avalon



heres a link to an ex illuminati memember about illuminati mind control techniques

http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/svali_speaks.htm

and another swerdlow interview

http://www.hyperspacecafe.com/forum14/185.html

[fawziya]

I think David Icke, in his latest book on (the) global conspiracy explains this phenomenon very well. However, you may need to be open to the thought of other intelligent life outside of our planet & third density dimension.

Here's something to ponder. I am Asian. I have a child who is half Asian & half caucasian. (Father is dark blond & hazel-eyed. German descent.) My child is dark-haired, brown-eyed & light-skinned. He has a child with a blond-haired, blue-eyed caucasian woman. My grandchild is a replica of my daughter-in-law; very BLOND-haired, blue-eyed & very white complexion.

Consider man being of average intelligence & interbred with a race of beings with attributes of psychic abilities, blond-haired & blue-eyed traits. Some people retain fair physical attribues. Some not.

What do you think. Am I crazy or totally wrong?

[clarkkent]

i honestly dont know what the answer is.

PLENTY of spiritual people are of all colors and many races report contact from ET's. i certainly dont think its our destiny to become all blonde and blue eyed because its of a higher ET vibration or anything like that.

im trying to piece together the atlantis/nazi/nordic/illuminati connection and trying to figure out why so many prominent figures on the fringe are indeed blondes and red heads. swerdlow says that the blonde genetics are some kind of reptillian hybrid and are more open to programming. thats one perspective but it doesnt account for all the blonde intuitives in this field, i really dont believe theyre all mind controlled.

its a mystery.

[fawziya]

What I meant is that, perhaps one source of the blondness & psychic ability connection is due to "outside" influence of a blond-type. However, look at all those different stars (& accompanying worlds out there) in the Universe. Perhaps, our planet has been infused from hundreds of different "off (this) planet" influences.

Check out Credo Mutwa (who is African) & what he has to say about indigenous Africans & other indigenous people throughout the world. He mentions the "cross breeding" of other intelligent life with ALL people on this planet.

It's amazing. But you must ponder the idea of how small "we" are in the bigger context of all that is.

PS Not all blonds are "really" blonds. One way to discern a true blond, from not is to (at the very least) look at the shade of the eyebrows.

[Frank Samuel]

You know Clark you posed an intresting question, here's goes a story from work ,for a while at work my job was to receive white engineers from our company visiting PR. Most where very proud that they where smart intellectuals , often trying to belittle the ignorant Boricuas. I laughed a lot, because knowledge sometimes limits your brain to be too linear. Needless to say common sense was not a strong trait of a lot of these young engineers. Too much hypothetical theories very little practical application. For which I always pointed out that they must have a balance. So from my puny Boricuan
mind I will guess that this is one reason why they make such an easy target for mind control weapons

Originally Posted by clarkkent

i i certainly dont think its our destiny to become all blonde and blue eyed because its of a higher ET vibration or anything like that.im trying to piece together the atlantis/nazi/nordic/illuminati connection and trying to figure out why so many prominent figures on the fringe are indeed blondes and red heads.

Ach Ja Mein Herr... das is simple... Ve are the Master race... The Vedic Gods are white (except the Blue guy) Jehovah is white... The Natives worshiped the "Great White Spirit"... The Venusians are white

But I have yet to meet a Redhead that suffers from mind control... those are feisty critters

Mind control PFFTT Can you show me proof of that? Other than the Youtube crowd of course

swerdlow says.

So what does swerdlow know?

[Frank Samuel]

Zorgon was ist meine fruend ? Ich bin ein dumkoft puerto riquanich.
Ich sprechen ein bissen deutch auf. Who has du gelernt deutch. Ich habe gelieb in de bundesrepublic fur seven jahren. Heute nach in PR ist nich ser geut mit de weather. Was denks du ? HAARP wirleicht oder meine puerto riquanich dumkoft.

[Lt Ripley]

Originally Posted by Frank Samuel

Zorgon was ist meine fruend ? Ich bin ein dumkoft puerto riquanich.
Ich sprechen ein bissen deutch auf. Who has du gelernt deutch. Ich habe gelieb in de bundesrepublic fur seven jahren. Heute nach in PR ist nich ser geut mit de weather. Was denks du ? HAARP wirleicht oder meine puerto riquanich dumkoft.

Attempt at translation:

Zorgon, who is my friend. I am a dumb Puerto Rican? (I HOPE that's NOT correct!)

I speak little German. Where did you learn German? I have lived in *states* or *state republic* for seven (should be SIEBEN) years. Today the weather in Puerto Rico is not very good. What do you think?

*Last bit something about HAARP, but I don't understand the word "wirleicht"*

How did I go, Frank Samuel?

[Frank Samuel]

At ease Lt. Ripley Is just a little humor. I love poking fun at myself makes me feel a little more human. I was station 7 years in Germany. My grammar is bad . I love project avalon for the diversities of opinions theories etc. my point if you take yourself to serious you'll get a heart attack or something. I am always laughing thinking creating. So much to learn so little time.
Be safe and be happy Ripley, by the way I love the movie aliens, a little scary!!!Got to go back to work...

[clarkkent]

Originally Posted by zorgon

Ach Ja Mein Herr... das is simple... Ve are the Master race... The Vedic Gods are white (except the Blue guy) Jehovah is white... The Natives worshiped the "Great White Spirit"... The Venusians are white

But I have yet to meet a Redhead that suffers from mind control... those are feisty critters

Mind control PFFTT Can you show me proof of that? Other than the Youtube crowd of course




So what does swerdlow know?

well if you read the post you would have seen that i wrote about his involvement in the montauk project which has a lot to do about mind control, i also said thats one perspective.

and if organized religion is what you look for to back up your seeming endorsement of a white superiority im surprised your on this forum.

are you saying "look everyone worships white people" well my research points to that religions were created to control minds, yes many have good spiritual teachings but "worshipping" anything seems ridiculous.

i dont know why im even responding since you basically said most cultures worship white people (which is incorrect, and even if it was true doesnt answer my basic question in the thread) clearly i differ in opinion from you

heres a link on swerdlow

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...02004150073691

ps- ZORGON -considering your avatar and that i havent liked some of you other posts i googled your name and this is what i found



The main villains in the movie are the Zorgons; reptilian, biped tool-users who are fond of heat and are attracted to a heat source much like bees are attracted to nectar, because they are cold-blooded. The Zorgons, having burned their own planet to obtain more heat, are nomads who travel through space seeking more to burn and who keep a flock of four-eyed goats on their ship.

also regarding your avatar i got this--

The Rosicrucians (The Ancient Order of Rosae Crucis, or AMORC), a Protestant order, began in early-seventeenth century Europe, and settled much of its base of operations in San Jose, California beginning in 1915. Referring to their meeting places not as lodges but as ‘universities,’ and to their members as ‘students,’ the Rosicrucians are heavily invested in the dissemination of knowledge to its initiates. One of their early tracts, a 1616 book titled The Chemical Wedding of Christian Rosenkreutz pays homage to the Knights in the name of its protagonist. Rosenkreutz translates to ‘rose cross,’ the symbol of the Templar order.

In fact, there are a number of quasi-Masonic and quasi-Templar groups.

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reptillian masonic etc etc, no wonder you think whites should be worshipped, ill ignore your future posts

Originally Posted by clarkkent

i dont know why im even responding since you basically said most cultures worship white people (which is incorrect, and even if it was true doesnt answer my basic question in the thread)

You seem confused... I would suggest councelling

clearly i differ in opinion from you

Hadn't noticed

The Rosicrucians (The Ancient Order of Rosae Crucis, or AMORC), a Protestant order,

Coulda saved the trouble and get the real fact from the link I posted
http://www.amorc.org/

ill ignore your future posts

Promise?

Talk about mind control.... whew....

I'm surprised the women on here haven't tarred and feathered you yet though



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[enemyofNWO]

Originally Posted by clarkkent

i honestly dont know what the answer is.

PLENTY of spiritual people are of all colors and many races report contact from ET's. i certainly dont think its our destiny to become all blonde and blue eyed because its of a higher ET vibration or anything like that.

im trying to piece together the atlantis/nazi/nordic/illuminati connection and trying to figure out why so many prominent figures on the fringe are indeed blondes and red heads. swerdlow says that the blonde genetics are some kind of reptillian hybrid and are more open to programming. thats one perspective but it doesnt account for all the blonde intuitives in this field, i really dont believe theyre all mind controlled.

its a mystery.

I observed similar things with possible MK Ultra victims in Australia .
One of them was a redhead , with blue eyes of Irish descent , the father was a Mason .This person was very easily hipnotized according to her husband . She was an active agent of the secret police .

[fawziya]

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[fawziya]

"Jenny" edited out my previous post from today. What happened to the concept of free & (diverse) speech? Nothing was done when Zorgon posted the following RACIST remark:


Ach Ja Mein Herr... das is simple... Ve are the Master race... The Vedic Gods are white (except the Blue guy) Jehovah is white... The Natives worshiped the "Great White Spirit"... The Venusians are white

[divinethread]

hello clark,
I must say this is a brilliant observation. Good job
Firstly I would like to correct the person who said "all religions worship white Gods". That's not true all major hindu gods are dark in complexion and it is specified. Shiva, Krishna, Rama etc.
Secondly I feel this white supremacy has links to Aryan Invasion theory/Myth: here are a few excerpts that might interest you. I'm also adding a link to a list of articles if you wish to do some reading on this subject:
Lastly it is just my opinion that mind control has to do less with genetics and more with the soul. Mind you this is just me thinking aloud --- 'what if younger the soul easier to control, the older it gets harder it becomes'.
Just a thought

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Oswald Arnold Gottfried Spengler (1880 – 1936) was a German historian and philosopher whose interests also included mathematics, science, and art. He is best known for his book The Decline of the West in which he puts forth a cyclical theory of the rise and decline of civilizations.



Spengler observed this about Eurocentrism:



“The Western European area is regarded as a fixed pole, a unique patch chosen on the surface of the sphere for no better reason, it seems, than because we live on it – and great histories of millennial duration and mighty faraway Cultures are made to revolve around this pole in all modesty. It is a quaintly conceived system of sun and planets. We select a single bit of ground as the natural center of the historical system, and make it the central sun. From it all the events of history receive their real light; from it their importance is judged in perspective.”



(source: The Decline of the West - By Oswald Spengler p. 13).

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The first point to note is that the idea of the Aryans as foreigners who invaded India and destroyed the existing Harappan Civilization is a modern European invention; it receives no support whatsoever from Indian records - literary or archaeological.

The same is true of the notion of the Aryans as a race; it finds no support in Indian literature or tradition. (And genetics demolishes it.) The word 'Arya' in Sanskrit means noble and never a race. In fact, the authoritative Sanskrit lexicon (c. 450 AD), the famous Amarakosha gives the following definition:

mahakula kulinarya sabhya sajjana sadhavah .

An Arya is one who hails from a noble family, of gentle behavior and demeanor, good-natured and of righteous conduct. And the great epic Ramayana has a singularly eloquent expression describing Rama as:

arya sarva samascaiva sadaiva priyadarsanah - Arya, who worked for the equality of all and was dear to everyone. The Rig Veda also uses the word Arya something like thirty six times, but never to mean a race. The nearest to a definition that one can find in the Rigveda is probably:

praja arya jyotiragrah ...

Children of Arya are led by light - Rig Veda VII. 33.17.

Thus, the modern notion of an Aryan-Dravidian racial divide is contradicted by ancient records. We have it on the authority of Manu that the Dravidians were also part of the Aryan fold. Interestingly, so were the Chinese. Race never had anything to do with it until the Europeans adopted the ancient word to give expression to their nationalistic and other aspirations.

Please refer to Naimisha Journal for interesting articles on Aryan Invasion Theory).

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Since the nineteenth century, India's ancient history from Vedic times and the true content of the Veda have both been distorted by a blinkered and unsympathetic scholarship. British rulers, European scholars and missionaries combined in a campaign to disparage the roots of Indian civilization, and used the wholly groundless Aryan Invasion theory to sow seeds of division in the Indian society - "divide and rule," but also "divide and convert." The same fallacies continue to be promoted today. Unfortunately, many of the wounds the Aryan invasion theory inflicted on Indian society are still painfully open today, nurtured as they have been by missionaries, Marxist historians and politicians, who together have made sure that divisions between castes have been sharpening rather than subsiding - for the simple reason that without such divisions they would all be out of business. Today, it is necessary to examines the birth of the Aryan myth, and the misuses it has bred; it then gives a fresh look at the invasion theory in the light of recent scientific evidence, and shows how it now stands overwhelmingly disproved. (source: The Invasion That Never Was - By Michel Danino and Sujata Nahar p. 26).

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The theory of the Aryan immigration into India from somewhere has been so often repeated by the western savants that it has become an article of faith even with the Indian scholars! But the Vedas refer to the Himalayas as the Uttara Giri i.e. the northern border and and contain no hints of an Aryan immigration into India from abroad.

(source: Indian Culture and the Modern Age - By Dewan Bahadur K. S. Ramaswami Sastri Annamalai University. 1956 p. 46-51).

Several eminent personalities including Swami Vivekanand, Gurudev Rabindranath Tagore and Shri Aurobindo firmly believed that Aryans were homegrown, born and brought up in India. Many chose to dismiss those views simply as irrational, inspirational or ultra-nationalistic. Yet, the archeological finds being uncovered presently, year after year, supported by continuing historical & scholarly research seem to prove that Swami Vivekanand, Rabindranath Tagore and Shri Aurobindo, and many learned personalities were correct to raise pointed questions against the Aryan Invasion Theory.

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But today, this theory is being challenged by two new discoveries, one archaeological and the other linguistic. Firstly, in the Rig Veda, the Ganges, India's sacred river, is only mentioned once, but the mythic Saraswati is praised fifty times. For a long time, the Saraswati river was indeed considered a myth, until the American satellite Landstat was able to photograph and map the bed of this magnificent river, which was nearly 14 km wide and took its source in the Himalayas. Archaeologist Paul-Henri Francfort, who studied the Saraswati regionat the beginning of the Nineties, found out that the Saraswati had "disappeared", because around 2200 B.C., an immense drought reduced the whole region to aridity and famine. "Thus", he writes, "most inhabitants moved away from the Saraswati to settle on the banks of the Indus and Sutlej rivers". According to official history, the Vedas were composed around 1500 BC, some even say 1200 BC. Yet, the Rig Veda describes India as it was before the great drought which dried up the Saraswati, which means in effect that the so-called Indus, or Harappan civilisation, was a continuation of the Vedic epoch, which ended approximately when the Saraswati dried up.

Recently, the famous Indus seals discovered on the site of Mohenjo Daro and Harappa have been deciphered by Dr N. Rajaram, a mathematician who worked at one time for the NASA and Dr Jha, a distinguished linguist. In the biased light of the Aryan invasion theory, these seals were presumed to be written in a crude Harappan (read Dravidian) script, although theyhad never been convincingly deciphered. But Rajaram and Jha, using an ancient Vedic glossary, the Nighantu, were able to prove that the script is of Sanskrit lineage and have so far deciphered 2000 seals. As the discovery of the Saraswati river, the decipherment of the Indus scripts also goes to prove that the Harappan civilisation, of which the seals are a product, belonged to the latter part of the Vedic Age and had close connections with Vedantic works like the Sutras and the Upanishads.

Hence, it is becoming more and more clear that there never was an Aryan invasion in India, a theory which was imposed upon the subcontinent by its colonizers and is today kept alive by Nehruvian historians (such as Romila Thapar), Christian missionaries (it is thus easy to convert the downtrodden tribals and Dravidians, by telling them that Hinduism was a religion thrust upon them by the hated "Brahmin" invaders) and the communists (who hate anything Hindu).

By Francois Gautier, the South Asia correspondent of `Le Figaro', France's largest circulation newspaper, and the author of `Rewriting Indian History'.

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http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Articles3.htm
(If u wish to research more)

[BeaTnik-BandiT]

Originally Posted by divinethread

Lastly it is just my opinion that mind control has to do less with genetics and more with the soul.

I disagree. That's the opposite that is true. Genetics has to do with your body. The body's purpose is to be your soul's vehicule here, in the 3rd density.

The soul will always be free, unless it decides to give itself away in certain cases.

I would like to add that Stuart Swerdlow says that people with dark complexion are less controlable than Blue eyed Blond haired people, thus less desirable to the Illuminati.
He says that the body is a reflexion of mind-patterns and vice-versa:

Dark skinned are more 'grounded' due to their brownish skin color.
As a result these individuals are less mind-controlable.

He says that's why you get mass slaughters in Africa.
(Needless to say that Africa is looted of it's gold, diamonds etc...
by Big Corporations while it's native population is starving to death.)

salute.

[THE eXchanger]

[QUOTE=BeaTnik-BandiT;53736He says that's why you get mass slaughters in Africa.
(Needless to say that Africa is looted of it's gold, diamonds etc...by Big Corporations while it's native population is starving to death.)salute.[/QUOTE]

Remember, that souls choose,
the situations that they land into...

the result of many, who choose places,
where they are straving to death,
certain circumstances, existed for all of them,
in their past life cycles...

they are here, as, a lesson to many of us,
as, to what can happen, if you destroy a planet !!!

(please, do NOT jump all over me...
for saying this, but, it is a truth)

these souls destroyed,
the last planet they where on --

they are being given, a new chance
under some pretty harsh conditions --
but, certainly NOT liek the ones they left

NOW, we, who are more fortunate
we also are given a lesson,
as, to how do we assist these brothers/and, sisters
are we compassionate, kind, and, loving,
are we willing to give, to help, etc.,

(let us, NOT do to this earth,
what they did to their last planet,
and, perhaps, if we really looked,
as, to what happens to those, who do NOT operate,
as, they could)

it is proof positive, that, THE CONSQUENCES
you will face, are a direct result
of playing out two different sides of a monad

if you get robbed--you have robbed someone else

if you get murdered--you will have murdered someone else

if you get beat up -- you will have beat up someone else

you will always play both sides of every equation--
(even if you do NOT believe this,
it is an absolute truth)
THERE IS NO ESCAPING IT !!!

otherwise, you could NEVER learn
the consquences / nor, transend the lessons
if you did NOT realiSe, how it is,


TO UNDERSTAND, that saying...
to have to know how it is,
to walk a mile in another persons shoes

this is why it is so vastly important...
to do onto others, as, you would have them do onto you

eventually; you graduate all the assortment of monads

then, you get to a real interesting one

just before the LOVE MONAD /
which leads to the ultimate one,
a HEART LINK

it's called
hopelessly loving - hopelessly LOVED

this is where you hopelessly love someone;
and; they do NOT hopelessly love you back

(my desire in this life,
is to attempt a love monad/leading to a heart_link
with someone)

but, i did go through
this "hopelessly loving" - "hopelessly loved"
for nearly 25 years -- it is a real frustrating monad
to play out -- & i did a lot of it, on both sides of that
equation

as, for the "redhead" comments --

i used to hide my "red" hair for decades

now, i am comfortable, with the colour of "red"

love
susan
the eXchanger

[BeaTnik-BandiT]

Originally Posted by eXchanger

Remember, that souls choose,
the situations that they land into...

the result of many, who choose places,
where they are straving to death,
certain circumstances, existed for all of them,
in their past life cycles...

they are here, as, a lesson to many of us,
as, to what can happen, if you destroy a planet !!!

(please, do NOT jump all over me...
for saying this, but, it is a truth)

these souls destroyed,
the last planet they where on --

.....................
love
susan
the eXchanger

Thanks Susan, thats a good theory.

My point is (in Swerdlows words) that the Illuminati are elitists, and don't bother killing countless lives (here the Africans) because they aren't controllable, too 'grounded'
(thus useless to them)

---AND----

At the same time, theses killings serves their 'ritual' purposes as well as to ease their conquest agenda to suck out all wealth from this territory.

Many here already know that Africa was (very likely) a testing ground for the AIDS virus.

It could be that the African native people have a victim mentality.
(On the other hand, the only help they get, is so little that they barely survive)

The universe works like a homeostatic system: it always self adjusts to maintain a stable equilibrium.

If you have a Victim mentality, you will attract an Oppressor.


take care.

[GoingToFast]

ClarkKent, I am a redhead with green eyes born in Scandinavia are you telling me that I am a stupid easy-manipulated buffoon ore what, I really don´t get which it is in your post. Also, in your post you are categorizing the Nordic ET´s as "Bad blonds/redheads" on what grounds do you make this assumption.

[BeaTnik-BandiT]

Originally Posted by GoingToFast

are you telling me that I am a stupid easy-manipulated buffoon .

These are your words, NOT his.
Read 'Blue Blood True Blood' from Stuart Swerdlow.

take care.

[GoingToFast]

clarkkent, whats your genetics then, how do you look, under what category do you fall "good and strong" ore "bad and easy-manipulated", it would be very interesting to know.

[GoingToFast]

What clarkkent really is saying here , between the written lines , is that the Illuminati and the oppressors of this world mainly do there recruiting from the "blond/redhead-breed" and that the "blond/redheads" are the dictators over the other races.

[fawziya]

Re: Blondes,red heads, blue eyes, MK ULTRA, and the fringe

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CREDO MUTWA - Distinguished African Shaman knows the TRUE HISTORY of AFRICA. CREDO MUTWA has dark features. He reveals not all Africans have BLACK hair. Some have RED HAIR. He explains how "outside" (alien to this planet) forces infiltrated humanity by interpopulating with races of all kinds on this earth. Thus, perhaps, the source of OUR psychic & intellectual attributes & spiritual connections.

Can anyone, intelligently, explain the reason for the different physical features of people all over the earth? In the north, for example, why are some people white-skinned w/light hair/eyes while also others in another part of the globe (in the north) are white/yellow-skinned w/dark eyes.

There are plenty of non-white spiritually, psychically, intellectually gifted people on this earth. Credo Mutwa has interacted with all types of INDIGENOUS PEOPLES throughout the world. He is highly esteemed by DAVID ICKE who is GRAY-SILVER-HAIRED & BLUE-EYED.

[Carol]

Hi fawziya,
I have Credo Mutwa's DVDs where he was interviewed by David Icke. He was very interesting to listen to as his experience was with the greys and Reptilians. However, Alex Collier did say his ET sources told him that the differernt races came from different ET sources... different planets and such, so it is no wonder we don't get along. That comment had me laughing for days.

From other materials I've read it also seems that some ETs did live among the people many years back... including the Reptilians among the Native Americans.

That little bit came from a military abductee who revealed to me that she has 6 hybrid Reptilian children. She had also writen a book which I have but it doesn't contain some of the other interesting follow-up information that she shared personally.

Originally Posted by fawziya

Re: Blondes,red heads, blue eyes, MK ULTRA, and the fringe

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CREDO MUTWA - Distinguished African Shaman knows the TRUE HISTORY of AFRICA. CREDO MUTWA has dark features. He reveals not all Africans have BLACK hair. Some have RED HAIR. He explains how "outside" (alien to this planet) forces infiltrated humanity by interpopulating with races of all kinds on this earth. Thus, perhaps, the source of OUR psychic & intellectual attributes & spiritual connections.

Can anyone, intelligently, explain the reason for the different physical features of people all over the earth? In the north, for example, why are some people white-skinned w/light hair/eyes while also others in another part of the globe (in the north) are white/yellow-skinned w/dark eyes.

There are plenty of non-white spiritually, psychically, intellectually gifted people on this earth. Credo Mutwa has interacted with all types of INDIGENOUS PEOPLES throughout the world. He is highly esteemed by DAVID ICKE who is GRAY-SILVER-HAIRED & BLUE-EYED.

[Kituwa]

I am not sure where you get the blonde hair blue eye thing on mkultra victims. I am an mkultra victim myself and i have talked to a good many others and very few of them had light colored hair or eyes, in fact by far most have dark hair and eyes, myself included.Also most all of us are a good percentage of native american blood. Trauma based mind control involves totally breaking down a child to a vegitative state and i would think it wouldnt much matter what race you are, once broken to that degree we are all the same. It is obvious that they looked for certain bloodlines but the true reason for this i am not sure about. Was it certain traits or was it a DNA thing? DNA tests were not available at that time so maybe they looked for certain traits associated with bloodlines as it was the best they could do at the time.I did find on the net recently that a family member of mine had a DNA test done to do with bloodline stuff on my white half. Turned out i am directly decended from a well known scottish royalty line.I dont know if that was part of the reason they chose me or if it is just coincidence. I have fairly clear memories of part of the break down stuff they did to me starting at about 4 years of age. Always have remembered this, just didnt understand what it was until many years later.I have good memory of my past up until i was around 6 years old, then a total blank until i was in the 3rd grade. I have sent off for my public school records and they only start at 3rd grade, no record of any kind of 1st and second grade at all. As time goes on i remember more and more bits and pieces of things. Just last week i had some really strange memories that i think have a lot to do with how they went about creating my diffrent personalities. I will start a diffrent thread on that soon as i am getting off topic here.If you are getting most of your info on mkultra by reading what is on the net you may be getting a good bit of mis info as a lot of what i have read is off a good bit or misunderstood.I know a lot of the O'Brian stuff is kind of hard for me to buy. I believe she is being honest but i also think she is unknowing dis infoing a good bit without her knowing it. I dont believe there is any way anyone could have total recall of everything like she seems to think, it just dont work that way.When you are broken and programmed as a young child, and grow up that way, you are and never will be 'normal' again. There is no normal to go back to,you are what they made you. I have often wondered myself what kind of person i would be today if this had never happened to me.I cant even tell you witch personality of mine is the real me.Some of the personalities i am aware of and sort of know when a change is occuring and others i have no, or little memory of.Forget what you have seen about multiple personalities from movies like the 3 faces of eve , it just isnt like that, at least for mkultra types anyway.When i have one of the changes that i am aware of it is only noticable to my wife or a friends that is around me a lot, otherwise you would never know. The major personality shifts never happen in front of other people,its a built in thing for me to go off by myself when it happens.Major personality shifts do not happen by accedental triggers like you sometimes hear about. This i am absolutly positive about. Only my handler controls that.We are not loose canons that can go off by accedent, we are probobly more in control on that account than normal people are, just not 'our own' control.I am not even sure if i WANTED to take a life that i could do it unless it was instructed by a handler. This is why i get concerned when i hear other victims say they are not able to be controlled by their handler anymore. I do think there are things we can do to keep the handlers from having accesss to triggering us though and most other victims i have talked to already know what things to avoid.