Bill Deagle vs David Wilcock NOW WHAT?

[Greg222]

Bill Deagle, along with HALF PAST HUMAN, point to a beginning of Illuminati-based planned catastrophe on Oct. 7. David Wilcock says NO. NOW WHAT?
Do we just 'wait and see'? Me thinketh it is wise to plan for the worst, even though we hope for the best. Get your emergency supplies now, particularly water, hunker down, and await our fate, while intending for the best.
Of course, the 'sky guys', via the many channelers, have promised no nuclear detonation, no biological releases and other man-made catastrophes will not be allowed via direct intervention from the Galactic Federation... which I certainly hope they can deliver on. It's PUSH COMING TO SHOVE time.
Any comments? Any facts or claims out there to help out?

Greg222

[tone3jaguar]

The ET's populated the planet with all of the various races. They have been watching very closely to insure that the egos and agendas of a few do not screw up the whole experience for the rest of us. They are not going to watch the whole thing play out over the last 13,000 years since the last pole shift only to watch it go up in flames right before transformation to 4th density has occured.

The best thing anyone can do is just follow thier own intuition. If your intuition is being filtered through a fear based consciousness, then you have to get over it already in order to see what you should be doing.

If it helps you feel less fear to have emergency supplies around then get them. So what If you never need them. We get them here in Florida every Hurricane season. We have not needed them in 2 years, but having them is peace of mind.

[Greg10036]

Originally Posted by tone3jaguar

The ET's populated the planet with all of the various races. They have been watching very closely to insure that the egos and agendas of a few do not screw up the whole experience for the rest of us. They are not going to watch the whole thing play out over the last 13,000 years since the last pole shift only to watch it go up in flames right before transformation to 4th density has occured.

The best thing anyone can do is just follow thier own intuition. If your intuition is being filtered through a fear based consciousness, then you have to get over it already in order to see what you should be doing.

If it helps you feel less fear to have emergency supplies around then get them. So what If you never need them. We get them here in Florida every Hurricane season. We have not needed them in 2 years, but having them is peace of mind.

On Monday, Sept 22, the star people contacted me and were very excited. After 200 years of debate, they finally got majority consensus to actively assist us. They will not save us. They will help us. It is up to us to save ourselves. They are going to assist in getting some major threats out of the way so that we can save ourselves. You are correct in your summation Jaguar. They are tired of seeing this planet crash and burn every so often. They want us to get through this one so that we can join the neighborhood and do business with them. They are tired of having to sneak around, get shot at, and screamed at, by Terrans. They want us to know who they are and bring us up to galactic speed. To hold us back, holds them back. This is a win/win for the galaxy. Peace.
Greg

[Average Joe]

A 200 year debate? Thats one long debate.

[traite]

Originally Posted by Average Joe

A 200 year debate? Thats one long debate.

I had a debate with my boss last month (a meeting of such) which lasted 4 hours and about 45 mins in I was begging for Armageddon.

On a more in line with the thread sort of note, I'm not totally convinced by either of those guys. I've watched the available footage a few times over and sorry but both come across as not being with it. Both come across as arrogant and aloof. Mr Deagle comes agross as rather condescending at times. It may just be me as I tend to watch all footage with some apprehension. I try to remain detached and give everyone a full hearing.

[Wellerite]

Originally Posted by Greg10036

On Monday, Sept 22, the star people contacted me and were very excited. After 200 years of debate, they finally got majority consensus to actively assist us. They will not save us. They will help us. It is up to us to save ourselves. They are going to assist in getting some major threats out of the way so that we can save ourselves.
Greg

That's only half the quote i know (I'm being environmentally friendly) and excuse me for being a little facetious but if stopping such things as pestilence and nuclear war or other major threats isn't 'INTERVENING' - then what is?

Sounds like we are being helped in a big way to me

[Greg10036]

Originally Posted by Wellerite

That's only half the quote i know (I'm being environmentally friendly) and excuse me for being a little facetious but if stopping such things as pestilence and nuclear war or other major threats isn't 'INTERVENING' - then what is?

Sounds like we are being helped in a big way to me

Hello Wellerite. Yes. In a big way that will probably be obvious at times. There was a major faction of the star people who said that because we do not care for ourselves or the planet why care about whether we make it or not. My sense is that in the last 60 years in particular, because there has been so much contact with us, they understand that we are people just like them who have been messed with to the extreme. So they are giving us the benefit of the doubt. Just my take on the situation. Peace.
Greg

[sunnyrap]

Below is a link to a whole page full of good little videos on how to focus your mind on (therefore create) what you want vs. what you don't want--and I'm fairly sure most here do not want the worse of Deagle's vision, which I'm guessing he is picking up on a tidal wave of fear near him. Also, my 'updated' education clearly indicates we as a group focusing on the same productive desires can in fact overcome minds focused on fear and destruction, because those desires are more in alignment with creation, therefore have more power and support.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RihMs...eature=related

I'm going to re-post the videos on how to relax your mind and body someone here posted elsewhere--because they are REALLY helpful and do put you in a relaxed, peaceful, unworried frame, before you even start the above. The exercise is a great foundation for meditation and is simple and uncomplicated to do. It's six parts (8 min each). Skip to part 6 as it is the complete run through, if you have really limited time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RihMs...eature=related

A lot of challenges have already been set in motion, true--but we are only limited by our imaginations in how these challenges can be transformed into that which serves us all. And this is a good forum for hammering that out.

[GenerationIke]

I was given a vision long ago of how World War III will start. If you would like to read it I will post, but not now. What I can tell you, Russia is not yet in the position--although they are close to it--to what I saw happening.

But I do know something is going to go down. I can feel something in the air definitely has changed and it's not good. So don't be surprised by it. We are in for a very bumpy ride. It's fasten your seatbelt time.

P.S. Can anyone tell me what's in honeydews that make them specifically nutritious and a protectant for the body? I'll tell you why later.

[The Illuminated Ones]

Well with Deagle every day is Doomsday, he's like Ed Dames on speed.

How anyone could take him seriolusly is utterly beyond me.

As for David, the word 'Aspergers' comes to mind:

"Pursuit of specific and narrow areas of interest is one of the most striking features of AS.[1] Individuals with AS may collect volumes of detailed information on a relatively narrow topic such as dinosaurs or deep fat fryers, without necessarily having genuine understanding of the broader topic.[1][5] For example, a child might memorize camera model numbers while caring little about photography.[1] This behavior is usually apparent by grade school, typically age 5 or 6 in the United States.[1] Although these special interests may change from time to time, they typically become more unusual and narrowly focused, and often dominate social interaction so much that the entire family may become immersed. Because topics such as dinosaurs often capture the interest of children, this symptom may go unrecognized.[5]"

-- From Wikipedia.

In that call with K he just free associates about his dinosaurs on and on. I wonder if he just babbles on like that, picks the phone up, carries on babbling for half an hour, puts the phone down and carries on babbling... Ad infinitum..

No conversation, no exchange of ideas...

When K does get a word in, Dave gets very grumpy.

If I were you, I would sleep in late on the 7th, and maybe go out for lunch.

[astropsyche]

Originally Posted by The Illuminated Ones

Well with Deagle every day is Doomsday, he's like Ed Dames on speed.

How anyone could take him seriolusly is utterly beyond me.

As for David, the word 'Aspergers' comes to mind:

"Pursuit of specific and narrow areas of interest is one of the most striking features of AS.[1] Individuals with AS may collect volumes of detailed information on a relatively narrow topic such as dinosaurs or deep fat fryers, without necessarily having genuine understanding of the broader topic.[1][5] For example, a child might memorize camera model numbers while caring little about photography.[1] This behavior is usually apparent by grade school, typically age 5 or 6 in the United States.[1] Although these special interests may change from time to time, they typically become more unusual and narrowly focused, and often dominate social interaction so much that the entire family may become immersed. Because topics such as dinosaurs often capture the interest of children, this symptom may go unrecognized.[5]"

-- From Wikipedia.

In that call with B and K he just free associates about his dinosaurs on and on. I wonder if he just babbles on like that, picks the phone up, carries on babbling for half an hour, puts the phone down and carries on babbling... Ad infinitum..

No conversation, no exchange of ideas...

When K does get a word in, Dave gets very grumpy.

Of I were you, I would sleep in late on the 7th, and maybe go out for lunch.

[quote] I think yours is good advice! Pity it isn't a Sunday really - then a really long leisurely brunch would be just the ticket. Be happy people

[The Illuminated Ones]

[QUOTE=astropsyche;39728]

I think yours is good advice! Pity it isn't a Sunday really - then a really long leisurely brunch would be just the ticket. Be happy people

I'm taking a very pretty lady out for lunch and a trip to an art gallery!

[thedarke]

Yes, be very happy and shift your energies...there is a lot of gloom on this site, but the overall message is regardless if events happen or not, it is safe to just be prepaired as much as possible, whether you stock a month worth of food or a year supply of food and supplies, just do something and if nothing happens, you did your grocery shopping in advance. I would rather have a fire alarm and an escape route just in case of a fire, rather then not have one and take a full bottle of sleep aid before I went to bed and have a fire happen. People, you don't have to be afraid and run for the hills by any means...........but be prepared, just in case there is a fire........it's just good, logical thinking.

[The Illuminated Ones]

Originally Posted by thedarke

Yes, be very happy and shift your energies...there is a lot of gloom on this site, but the overall message is regardless if events happen or not, it is safe to just be prepaired as much as possible, whether you stock a month worth of food or a year supply of food and supplies, just do something and if nothing happens, you did your grocery shopping in advance. I would rather have a fire alarm and an escape route just in case of a fire, rather then not have one and take a full bottle of sleep aid before I went to bed and have a fire happen. People, you don't have to be afraid and run for the hills by any means...........but be prepared, just in case there is a fire........it's just good, logical thinking.

You've just said it all my friend

[Ali Quadir]

Yeah well when you're shopping for survival food don't just go for nutritional value. After last apocalyptic warning they had me eating bloody beans for months. I think I'm personally responsible for most of the methane gas released to the atmosphere at that time.

Anyone have any good bean recipes?

[ChristinCP]

Originally Posted by Ali Quadir

Yeah well when you're shopping for survival food don't just go for nutritional value. After last apocalyptic warning they had me eating bloody beans for months. I think I'm personally responsible for most of the methane gas released to the atmosphere at that time.

Anyone have any good bean recipes?

Mixed bean chili w/ sour cream, diced onion and hot sauce! Don't skimp on the cumin.

[Mori]

Bill Deagle vs David Wilcock NOW WHAT?


Lets get Ready toooo RUMMMBLE

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

ill be ready.. for nuke, bio, chem attack, famine , disease, all i need is water and 2 45 gallon drums to store deisel. hope my orders make it over .. they said friday for most of my deliveries.. after that im ready to rock. unfeared of what happens after that.. im gonna stay urban till its time to depart to the country side.. maybe missing a stand alone water filter. hopefully i can dig down into a hillside ..

[The Illuminated Ones]

Originally Posted by pineal-pilot-in merkabah

ill be ready.. for nuke, bio, chem attack, famine , disease, all i need is water and 2 45 gallon drums to store deisel. hope my orders make it over .. they said friday for most of my deliveries.. after that im ready to rock. unfeared of what happens after that.. im gonna stay urban till its time to depart to the country side.. maybe missing a stand alone water filter. hopefully i can dig down into a hillside ..

Can i have your CD's, DVD's and books then - while you won't be needing them where you're going?

[Seeker Mom]

David Wilcock may be right, but he's drank the Obama Kool-Aid and espouses his political views so much lately that I don't believe much of anything he has to say these days. He's beginning to sound just plain whiny. I could tell Kerry was trying to steer him away from partisan politics and keep him on topic during his latest phone interview and I appreciate her effort greatly.

[peaceandlove]

Originally Posted by Seeker Mom

David Wilcock may be right, but he's drank the Obama Kool-Aid and espouses his political views so much lately that I don't believe much of anything he has to say these days.

With all the wonderful things David had to say about Ron Paul I am surprised he didn't mention a possible write-in. Although Ron Paul has said that he was not so sure a write-in would be good and has recently said he supports Chuck Baldwin from the Constitution Party. Baldwin08.com

He has also asked people to not vote the duopoly since he continues to say there is no difference between Obama or McCain and has suggested everyone vote Third Party, thereby sending the message that we are not happy with either the Democrats or the Republicans.

Even if a Third Party doesn't make it in and since it doesn't matter whether it takes away from Obama or McCain, it becomes a statement that 'We the People' want a real choice.

campaignforliberty.com

With Peace and Love in Mind,

[milk and honey]

Originally Posted by peaceandlove

With all the wonderful things David had to say about Ron Paul I am surprised he didn't mention a possible write-in. Although Ron Paul has said that he was not so sure a write-in would be good and has recently said he supports Chuck Baldwin from the Constitution Party. Baldwin08.com

Hi peaceandlove... What's a 'write in'?

Originally Posted by peaceandlove

He has also asked people to not vote the duopoly since he continues to say there is no difference between Obama or McCain and has suggested everyone vote Third Party, thereby sending the message that we are not happy with either the Democrats or the Republicans.

Even if a Third Party doesn't make it in and since it doesn't matter whether it takes away from Obama or McCain, it becomes a statement that 'We the People' want a real choice.

campaignforliberty.com

I agree. The power elite are clearly contemptuous of a voting citizenry who continues to split their votes overwhelmingly between Republicans and Democrats. That's obvious because their agenda roles on regardless of which party gets a turn in office.

At election times, the ONLY way to send a message that you're awake to their scam is to NOT vote for EITHER of the two major parties. Vote EVERY incumbent out of office (except for a tiny few who've proven their credentials) and that will send the message that you are not asleep at the wheel. Even when there is no worthy third choice vote the incumbent out (unless they have a track record of opposing 'business as usual')

[Anchor]

Originally Posted by pineal-pilot-in merkabah

ill be ready.. for nuke, bio, chem attack, famine , disease, all i need is water and 2 45 gallon drums to store deisel. hope my orders make it over .. they said friday for most of my deliveries.. after that im ready to rock. unfeared of what happens after that.. im gonna stay urban till its time to depart to the country side.. maybe missing a stand alone water filter. hopefully i can dig down into a hillside ..

I hope you know I am not being sarcastic when I say I hope you have wasted your money!

Water is your highest priority. It was before, but it is now even more since you already took care of stuff a long way down the list.

Also when you get that Deisel - I hope you have remembered also to get some fuel stabiliser (Pri-D or equivalent) so that it doesnt turn into algae infested jelly in a few months

Please can I ask that when you have finished your preps - and they do sound more than adequate, remove your attention from the "scenarios" that you are planning for.

A..

[Greg222]

I'll grant that Deagle gets right to it, which I like. Wilcock and this Rebecca Jurnigan sure take a LLLOOOOOOOOONNNGGG time to say somthing. And with topics of this importance, I need direct SUBSTANCE in my messages, not prose and flowers.

Greg222

[The Illuminated Ones]

Originally Posted by Greg222

I'll grant that Deagle gets right to it, which I like. Wilcock and this Rebecca Jurnigan sure take a LLLOOOOOOOOONNNGGG time to say somthing. And with topics of this importance, I need direct SUBSTANCE in my messages, not prose and flowers.

Greg222

What's the topic?.

Answer in less than ten words.