September 30th - Goodbye

[arcora]

October 1st, this board is switching to a subscription model. I had intended to subscribe, but now I have made the decision to leave on September 30th.

I will share my reasons for those who care.

It isn't the money. It is the way this forum is evolving. These are my opinions on my observations - take them for what they're worth to you.

This started out as a GREAT idea. Build a forum where users could interact with 'whistleblowers', discuss topics of mutual interest, plan for the creation of communities etc.

Well, the whistleblowers are gone. The only ones left are Michael St. Clair and Duncan O'Finioan. Michael isn't exactly a whistleblower - he's an astrologer who has made a nice living warning the wealthy about world events. He's not really privy to any inside information - he's interpreting planetary alignments.

Duncan O'Finioan is a whistleblower. Although his story is heartwrenching, it is severely limited in scope. Although interesting, it doesn't give us a glimpse into the big picture. Best of luck to you Duncan.

The other whistleblowers were run off. Henry Deacon in particular. Henry was the real deal. Since his posts have been removed, I will tell you the reason he left. His identity was revealed here. It wasn't in an obvious manner as in "Henry Deacon's real name is XXXX XXXXX". It was made to be imminently discoverable. I discovered it and tried to warn the Admin but no action was taken. I'm no great investigator. If I could find it, certainly any agency curious about him now knows exactly who "Henry Deacon" was.

This is the lack of protection Henry was speaking of. He was brought here with the promise of protection of the founders and they didn't fulfill their responsibility. I prefer to give the founders the benefit of the doubt and believe that they were too busy or victims of a communication breakdown. Nonetheless, the value of this forum dropped significantly with the departures of Henry Deacon and John Lear.

The members here are good people. Most of you are well intentioned, loving, intelligent and lost. Lost isn't a bad thing. It is a state of being. It just is.

There are so many people running around here who believe that sending love out into the cosmos is the cure for every problem and the answer to every question. That's OK for you to believe that if you want. The problem is that your numbers are growing. You all are having such an impact on the other members that it is spreading. It is becoming like a Hari Krishna convention here.

You can celebrate that if you like. But just as the perfect slave is the one who thinks he is free, the best way to keep someone lost is to make them believe that they know where they are.

We are all confused about what is happening and we're all trying to find answers. Over the past 6,000 years of recorded human history there have been lots of sects that popped up professing that love is the answer. Unfortunately they have all failed. The Truth is not that simple.

Listening to what this channeler has to say, what that phsycic saw in a vision, or what some contactee claims to know may be worthwhile. But, like this forum, the real truths are mixed in with huge helpings of lies. So many here spout off new-age wisdom and platitudes in the same manner as fundamentalist Christians repeat a few bible verses. A phrase here, a thought there. As though all the wisdom of mankind could be found in that utterance. Beware.

Don't believe things just because you want to believe them. Believe only those things that are True. This is more difficult than it seems because we are our own greatest deceivers. Remember, there are a lot of Truths that we don't like.

The fear on this board is palatable. It is a peculiar type of fear though. I don't see people afraid for their lives - I see a lot of people who are deathly afraid of ideas that contradict their own neatly kept beliefs. The first step to learning is admitting that you don't know.

My advice? Don't be deceived. Don't conform. Find wisdom and share it. Don't be afraid of different ideas - after all, it is that open mind that brought you to the state that you are in. Don't close it now when you are so close to the finish. If you truly want to ascend, keep searching. You may be close but you are not there yet. Find some ideas that you don't like and explore them with your mind open.

We are facing the most profound questions and problems mankind has encountered in the last 26,000 years. Don't mistake wisdom for Truth.

My primary reason for leaving is this dynamic which is manifesting in front of my eyes. This does frighten me - I worry that with enough repetition I'll be like the subject in the video. After all, I am only human.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qlJqR4GmKw

For the record, I am neither in service to myself or to others. (Yes, there is a third option.) I am in service to myself second. If I can help others along the way - I will do so. I would stay and try to help you all but you don't really want my help and I am running out of time.

I came here to find the answer to one succinct question. I did not get a direct answer - but I did find some clues to continue in my quest. I also discovered two more questions that I need answered. Thank you all for that.

[rinauldi]

Well stated. This mirrors my own thoughts very well, and I doubt I could have expressed them better.

I wish you well in your Journey.

[Frank Samuel]

Arcora as I am sad to see you leave the forum, I am unsure that your reasons are valid.While Whistle blowers testimony are important we do not need anyone to tell us that by putting your hand on the fire we are going to get burn.The destruction of our planet is a 100% certainty. We do not need any help for that we are doing that already. Think about it each one of us in this forum ,what are we physically doing to help any one outside of our family and friends circle. The message for me which I feel that must be communicated to all leaders in this world and beyond is to Stop, we the human race are responsible for one another we, you and me are our brothers keeper. I either choose to do something about the events unfolding or not. To have love in my heart for my fellow hu man is not a bad thing or is it, to pray for those less fortunate, to spread the word about the importance of this time even if we are ridule and mocked. What the forum is becoming from a bunch of idealist we are becoming realist, why ? The change of this world starts with me, the person I am looking at in the mirror each day.
One step at a time our sweat, blood and tears echoes across the galaxies our prayers with fervor and honest determination to stop this madness NOW!!! will not go unanswer. That I know to be the truth. Please don't leave, each of us are part of the whole that is creating a change it is infectious, this is like the domino effect. Whatever you decide, good luck and God bless you always.

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

They only reason I will stick around is if all areas of the forum are open to everyone. I am happy to pay if this is the case. Otherwise, I am off....

[Trishsgate]

Arcora you have made some wonderful points and I am so sorry to see you leave, it really is critical to maintain free thinking. I feel you can contribute much to this forum so that others just beginning their journey can research. They need a hand not something force fed them but a little bit of guidance. I understand and maybe wrongly that the Camelot forum will reopen possibly free where you may be of service to the new arrivals there as well as here if you should decide to stay.

I will not be staying when this goes subscription only, but I see why the need a web forum like anything else requires funding in order to operate. However, my priorities at this point in time is conserving what funds I have left in order to provide a zone for me, my family, and community. This is what is foremost in my mind which is changing who I am and interacting within my own community\environment.

I may not be in a radiant zone nor does it really matter for me I am being guided to stay until further notice, for me to disobey this guidance is not something I can do. If you are being guided "within" to go to a radiant zone then that is where you are needed and I do not disagree with zones I am all for them but everyone will not be able to live there. What matters most to me is doing for myself independent of very little outside assistance. Until we (community) change what is within ourselves that makes us value the "me" more than the "us" nothing substantial will change. The same caste system will develop that we have always had only with different players in the game.

How is a community or global system possible when we consistently time after time place "value" on people and things, this in effect devalues someone\something else. When a leader is "valued" more important than the follower, when the gold is of greater value than the crop are they not both equal in value and importance. Is not that professor of equal value to the maintenance person are they both not needed to perform a service. Is not that gold as equal to that seed in the ground. Who rates and judges these things or should they be at all is my question?

Who is worthy to determine who is of consideration to live and the quality of that life. Does not that person's own choices\judgement determine their path and should they not be equal in importance this should not be a system base that is filled with greed and corruption.

Until we take a second look at what we view as "value" what will change. Assigning value is this not what has occurred generation after generation with similar results. Does a person need to attain more than the next person and if that is so please tell me why? Does this person deserve security\protection over the next and if so why? This to me is where it begins and ends in value or so called importance.

Should we still strive to compete, covet, and accumulate "things" is this the old or the new we are creating. We are on a journey with many different pathways hopefully we will achieve something new and fulfilling for all humanity and not just for a select few.

Love & Peace
Trish

good point arcora....if the forum does go into subscrption then i say

so long and thanks for all the red herrings....

[unlimited mind]

about four, maybe five, years ago, i began to have dreams that were so outrageous i had to find out what in the heck my mind was trying to tell me. that is how i woke up, i followed my dreams.

my first teacher was an ascended being called Ramtha. i went to his school where he taught my class 5 separate times within a 9 day period, and then extended our 'class' time 3 more days to initiate us. i learned about science there. how the mind is the greatest tool in the universe. that my consciousness does indeed create my reality. RSE taught me how to create in a conscious manner.

everything i learned after that has been a validation of all of those teachings.

i tell everyone this, because i actually know students that can levitate, bi-locate, manifest in their hands, become invisible, and all sorts of other useful tools to navigate within the current state of world affairs.

i thought for sure that people who were keeping pace with project camelot, as i have, would be past the point of giving all of their energy to what the data is telling us is going to happen. this information is very important, because it shows us a time line, not the end time.

you don't have to be a psychic to be able to observe the path that is before us if you have a lot of the 'big picture' information. camelot, and now avalon, is a storehouse of that information and very well documented and discussed. understanding what the information is revealing to you, is THE understanding.

avalon is most definitely a mirror for the awakened minds. it is very easy to observe energy here on this forum, one way is to check your own thread visits with responses, etc. where do you spend your energy. just glance over the newly posted threads to get a full view of the energy of the moment here.

how many times do we need to validate that we are indeed heading for a consciousness upheaval? well, as many times as needed. this is why this forum is important.

it seems that a lot of folks here focus all of their energy on one particular thing, instead of using their minds to interact with the consciousness field in a different way.

yes, there are those people who want to be love, share loving thoughts, and inspire others to see love. and if it doesn't inspire you, i would have to say that the connection to your heart is a bit misaligned and you may need some sandpaper to get rid of the jaded edges.

this is my definition, from my own personal perception, of an awakened spiritual warrior:

first you must know how we, the many ones, got into this situation to begin with. this takes time, because it is a long and winding road where the warrior will hesitate at times when their be lie fs are being challenged.

second, once you have a general idea of the how, the next logical step is to find a solution within your self, since we are all a part of the solution beginning with ourselves. continuing to focus the 'how' trail, will only distract you from the solution. i think that is quite purposeful in the grand scheme of things too. why? this is where you have to trust the universe you think you understand, you have to trust your own mind and heart.

many things are born within this second step, some of these include discernment, open mindedness, gratitude, energy obseervation, surrender, and love of SELF. all very important things that will guide you to the next step in a clear manner.

third, once a solution is born within you, then you MUST take the action suitable to balance the energy/attitude you would like to conquer. just like everything, it must all happen from within first, and then will begin to radiate outward into the world at large.

after saying all of this, i do hope that whatever we see here on this forum that we really don't approve of, we get the message to find out why that might be an issue within ourselves...before we go out discrediting another divine being's perceptions in their own journey.

we are here to support one another on this journey people, to be of service to others. our minds are forever linked together now, so do me a favor, help me transmute the attitudes that are holding this group mind apart. it will bring unity and oneness.

and re member, if you think there are mind parasites at avalon, i would say they have names like close mindedness, fear, judgment, and the inability to ground yourself into the inner most sanctuary of your own mind. all frequency not of your own will be pushed out of your bands if you know how to access that part of yourself and have a clear mind to do it with.

i see love. i see peace. i have always known this world in balance and harmony with all that IS. i am the I AM in all that IS. <<<just a smidgen of the thoughts that ramble around in my head when i am not present with other things.

don't let your minds wander into the ditches of the old brain. this is very good survival preparedness.

I've been chewing this over in my mind and heart ever since Avalon came back online and I've come to my decision: I'm leaving.

No matter how well intentioned the aims of the Avalon are, in the end it comes down to this: I've spent most of my life having a certain view of reality forced on me, and I'm not going to let it happen again.

Whether or not Bill and Kerry believe they are doing what's best for us by curtailing our "privilages" on what we may or may not talk about it's still a limit on free speech.

I'm not talking about abusive posting or things of that nature. They might as well call this site Project George Green.

Camelot was fantastic, and I applaud them for it. It was needed- a free release of information from credible insiders without an agenda of it's own. Avalon has a very definite agenda, and I believe it is helping to bring about a future which virtually guarantees major catastrophe. That cataclysm is inevitable is the fundamental assumption that Avalon operates on. It's the same one that fundamentalist Christianity operates on.

I refuse to allow myself to be locked into survival mode, the very same method that has been used to keep humanity down for millennia. No matter what their intentions, they are actually strengthening the forces they claim to be standing against. I will not add my energy to that.

I wish you all the very best.

Blessings and goodbye

Edit* Ah to hell with it, a good night's sleep and things look less bleak. Be part of the solution right?

Originally Posted by Sunrunner

They might as well call this site Project George Green.

Lol, that made me laugh...

[Theresa]

This forum was inspired by George Green's books and the general intent is to support the "ground crew" as described in his books. His work is CHANNELED FROM ET SOURCES.

That means this forum was ESTABLISHED in ALIGNMENT with CHANNELED material. Doesn't get much more metaphysical than that.

The spiritual concepts outlined in that material are in alignment with all messages of "we create our reality" metaphysics, which are in alignment with quantum physics. Thats the foundation this forum was created on.

Why is that now an issue? If one doesn't agree with a spiritual approach to answering the reality of our world today, one certainly does not have to participate in a discussion of it, at all. But, I thought that's why this forum was started.

The nature of a forum is sharing and discussion. That provides for a wide range of participation-it HAS to. If it doesn't, then its just an academic discussion. But right now, on our planet, things are in such great flux, that even within a very small group of aligned consciousnesses, ie, here on this forum (we ARE a very small group, relatively, wouldn't you say?) there is a vast range of spiritual development, life experience, education, etc. So, we have to allow for that. This "experiment" has never been done before!

I wish that we didn't have to pay to participate in the forum, but $5 a month? I spend more than that in two days on coffee. I think I can handle $5.

The experience we are having on Earth now is something none of our ancestors have ever had (at least in THIS millenium, lol!) Perhaps taking a deep breath and reaching out for each other, and staying aligned to our heart center would be a GOOD thing. I'm not sure the intellect can navigate these waters unaccompanied. I sure don't want to rely on MY intellect....it's not exactly the most "enlightened" being in and of itself, if you know what I mean!

Lots of love and blessings to everybody!

~We are going to make it~take a deep breath, go within, trust the process!~

[Carol]

Originally Posted by Theresa

This forum was inspired by George Green's books and the general intent is to support the "ground crew" as described in his books. His work is CHANNELED FROM ET SOURCES.

That means this forum was ESTABLISHED in ALIGNMENT with CHANNELED material. Doesn't get much more metaphysical than that.

The spiritual concepts outlined in that material are in alignment with all messages of "we create our reality" metaphysics, which are in alignment with quantum physics. Thats the foundation this forum was created on.

Why is that now an issue? If one doesn't agree with a spiritual approach to answering the reality of our world today, one certainly does not have to participate in a discussion of it, at all. But, I thought that's why this forum was started.

The nature of a forum is sharing and discussion. That provides for a wide range of participation-it HAS to. If it doesn't, then its just an academic discussion. But right now, on our planet, things are in such great flux, that even within a very small group of aligned consciousnesses, ie, here on this forum (we ARE a very small group, relatively, wouldn't you say?) there is a vast range of spiritual development, life experience, education, etc. So, we have to allow for that. This "experiment" has never been done before!

I wish that we didn't have to pay to participate in the forum, but $5 a month? I spend more than that in two days on coffee. I think I can handle $5.

The experience we are having on Earth now is something none of our ancestors have ever had (at least in THIS millenium, lol!) Perhaps taking a deep breath and reaching out for each other, and staying aligned to our heart center would be a GOOD thing. I'm not sure the intellect can navigate these waters unaccompanied. I sure don't want to rely on MY intellect....it's not exactly the most "enlightened" being in and of itself, if you know what I mean!

Lots of love and blessings to everybody!

~We are going to make it~take a deep breath, go within, trust the process!~

Very well stated Theresa and thank you. Each forum has its own purpose. Camelot is for discussion, critical opinion, honesty, free style thinking, debate, education and discovery. This is the place where many folks are learning about some of the insider information for the first time. It takes time to digest what is being presented there. For example, it took me years before I was ever ready to even accept that ETs were existed in the "real" sense of the word and it took years to assimilate what I was learning.

Unfortunately, there isn't enough time for folks to take years to learn and assimilate everything that is being currently being revealed in these forums. Subsequently folks tend get irritated or angry because this info is a bit overwhelming and doesn't fit into many of the present day belief systems. Irrespective of the emotional upheaval, Avalon is the ground crew. These are the folks that are the leaders for the ones who are still "not on the bus."

Ground Crew members have already accepted that change is afoot and they want to be a part of that change in a positive manner. Some help hold the energy in the direction they would like to see the change move toward while others take care of the nuts and bolts. Just as the feet take us where we want to go; the head gives direction. All parts of the body is needed for it to befully functional.

Folks who are here at the Avalon site don't need to debate because that is already behind them. They don't need to be told to get ready because they recognize what is going on and are already making preparations.

For example, remember the story of the grasshopper and the ants? The grasshopper played during the summer while the ants stored food for the coming winter. Our grasshoppers (folks who are new to this info) need Camelot so as to learn and understand why Avalon is so important.

Those here in Avalon are downloading info and networking. They are sharing their expertise to help their fellow brothers and sisters. This is what Avalon is for.

Mahalo,

Carol

Originally Posted by Carol

Very well stated Theresa and thank you. Each forum has its own purpose. Camelot is for discussion, critical opinion, honesty, free style thinking, debate, education and discovery. This is the place where many folks are learning about some of the insider information for the first time. It takes time to digest what is being presented there. For example, it took me years before I was ever ready to even accept that ETs were existed in the "real" sense of the word and it took years to assimilate what I was learning.

Unfortunately, there isn't enough time for folks to take years to learn and assimilate everything that is being currently being revealed in these forums. Subsequently folks tend get irritated or angry because this info is a bit overwhelming and doesn't fit into many of the present day belief systems. Irrespective of the emotional upheaval, Avalon is the ground crew. These are the folks that are the leaders for the ones who are still "not on the bus."

Ground Crew members have already accepted that change is afoot and they want to be a part of that change in a positive manner. Some help hold the energy in the direction they would like to see the change move toward while others take care of the nuts and bolts. Just as the feet take us where we want to go; the head gives direction. All parts of the body is needed for it to befully functional.

Folks who are here at the Avalon site don't need to debate because that is already behind them. They don't need to be told to get ready because they recognize what is going on and are already making preparations.

For example, remember the story of the grasshopper and the ants? The grasshopper played during the summer while the ants stored food for the coming winter. Our grasshoppers (folks who are new to this info) need Camelot so as to learn and understand why Avalon is so important.

Those here in Avalon are downloading info and networking. They are sharing their expertise to help their fellow brothers and sisters. This is what Avalon is for.

Mahalo,

Carol

Exactly!

[china2012]

Originally Posted by Carol

Very well stated Theresa and thank you. Each forum has its own purpose. Camelot is for discussion, critical opinion, honesty, free style thinking, debate, education and discovery. This is the place where many folks are learning about some of the insider information for the first time. It takes time to digest what is being presented there. For example, it took me years before I was ever ready to even accept that ETs were existed in the "real" sense of the word and it took years to assimilate what I was learning.

Unfortunately, there isn't enough time for folks to take years to learn and assimilate everything that is being currently being revealed in these forums. Subsequently folks tend get irritated or angry because this info is a bit overwhelming and doesn't fit into many of the present day belief systems. Irrespective of the emotional upheaval, Avalon is the ground crew. These are the folks that are the leaders for the ones who are still "not on the bus."

Ground Crew members have already accepted that change is afoot and they want to be a part of that change in a positive manner. Some help hold the energy in the direction they would like to see the change move toward while others take care of the nuts and bolts. Just as the feet take us where we want to go; the head gives direction. All parts of the body is needed for it to befully functional.

Folks who are here at the Avalon site don't need to debate because that is already behind them. They don't need to be told to get ready because they recognize what is going on and are already making preparations.

For example, remember the story of the grasshopper and the ants? The grasshopper played during the summer while the ants stored food for the coming winter. Our grasshoppers (folks who are new to this info) need Camelot so as to learn and understand why Avalon is so important.

Those here in Avalon are downloading info and networking. They are sharing their expertise to help their fellow brothers and sisters. This is what Avalon is for.

Mahalo,

Carol

It definitely requires the greatest courage to ask and learn
Some of the most difficult quests in a life
Now the initiation has been given
How well do we cope?
Answer that particular question,
Better be specific:
The biggest risk of all is not to take any risk at all

[777 The Great Work]

[QUOTE=BPhill;30857]Lol, that made me laugh...[/QUOTE

Truth will never be found from external sources. Truth comes from within. If we really knew the truth and these guys were revealing the real secrets. They wouldn't be alive.
Phil schnieder was a true whistle blower and he's six feet under. These other guys talking about ninjas taking out the illuminati are a joke.lmao These other blowers of the whistle are just blowing a whistle.lmao I love humanity and the J RODS. We will say anything to keep food on the table.LMAO Truth will be revealed when we collapse our own towers of IGNORANCE and fear of DEATH.

[Sherab]

[/QUOTE] Truth will be revealed when we collapse our own towers of IGNORANCE and fear of DEATH.[/QUOTE]

Amen to that!!

[ophiuchus]

points well made arcora! listen ,there is no reason why all of our ideas can't be harmonious,as long as their intent is a positive one in nature. life is give and take,ying and yang etc...a balancing act with forces pushing and pulling each other bringing everyone higher. we need everyone. everyone must respect one another. tptb would like nothing more than to see this fall apart. this spat is trivial ,unnecessary,and blown out of proportion. until kerry or bill give a message that specifically makes certain opinions unwelcome i say everyone continue as they were.

[Ampgod]

Let people be people.
If we quit this forum we, in fact, are limiting ourselves because we may miss that one person that has something to say that sparks thought for us.
If we don't like the certain types than we can simply wade through them like we do the constant disinformation that is out there.

Then again, we could find ourselves possibly closing off ideas that just may be real. So it may be a good idea to stay open.



Live Love,
Ampgod

[Merkhava]

The ones who finish are the ones who endure, who don't quit.

Being human is messy. It is full of disappointment, deception, delusion and danger. The facts of life rarely measure up to the fantasy of our expectations.

Besides, the ones who need the most help are the ones who are lost, who are deceived and are overcome by strong delusion. These are all the more reasons for staying.

I will stick around. I have no illusions that my input is small and inconsequential compared to the enormity of our problems. But as for me, I will continue to do what I can to be a participant and to offer any help I can muster. I claim no immunity to self deception or self delusion. Some cherished convictions I hold to be true may eventually prove to be lies. That is one of the great challenges of this mortal life I suppose.

Hopefully we are all working towards the same goal - acquiring the truth that leads us to enduring life.

So decide for yourself if this Avalon idea is worthy or worthless. If it is worthless, if it is useless, then leaving it is perhaps the rational thing to do. But the worth of this project is only going to be what it could be if it is composed of people who have something worthy to offer.

That won't happen if such people give up, cop out and go away.

Who out there is man enough to stand in the gap?

Who is willing to be an advocate and defender for others even at the cost of what is most precious? Isn't that what real love is all about?

Regards,
Merkhava

[Carol]

Originally Posted by Merkhava

The ones who finish are the ones who endure, who don't quit.

Being human is messy. It is full of disappointment, deception, delusion and danger. The facts of life rarely measure up to the fantasy of our expectations.

I will stick around. I have no illusions that my input is small and inconsequential compared to the enormity of our problems. But as for me, I will continue to do what I can to be a participant and to offer any help I can muster.

Decide for yourself if this Avalon idea is worthy or worthless. If it is worthless, if it is useless, then leaving it is perhaps the rational thing to do. But the worth of this project is only going to be what it could be if it is composed of people who have something worthy to offer.

That won't happen if such people give up, cop out and go away.

Who out there is man enough to stand in the gap?

Regards,
Merkhava

What a very nice post Merkhava. Thank you so much for your thoughts.

[Shechaiyah]

I've had a lot of Subjective experiences like Delgado and some of the other witnesses. I remain off the screen, out of sight because frankly, I don't think anybody is going to believe me.

And that's okay too. Each of us has a place, role and function; and my experiences support what I do as whistle-blower; I'm not here to impress anybody.

I think chatty-ness is simply a characteristic of immaturity; and we of the old school have to be patient with the younger ones, before they "get it."

I will lurk here, and provide an idea now and then that comes to me in the dark; but I'm not stepping out into the limelight any time soon. Not me.

Okay, maybe I'm chicken.


Shech--

Science is the closest approximation to truth at any given moment... If everything is an illusion, than nothing can truly exist BUT the Creator. Magic IS perhaps the science of the Creator, as is the symbolism on which it is based. If proof is subjective, then nothing can objectively prove the "Truth".

Truth can only be experienced by the individual.

[arcora]

Originally Posted by Carol

It is clear by your posts that your behavior is inappropriate for Avalon. This is the site for the ground crew and in reviewing your recent posts there is little evidence of recent ground crew posts.

Futhermore, I'm sorry that the mods did not respond to your earlier request. If you will let us know who you notified and when, we can check that out.

Next, I seriously doubt you know HDs real name. I'm aware also of the link you referred to. HD is used to dealing with these folks all the time and knows how to take care of himself.

However, your post could be seen as reckless and demonstrates lack of judgment and disrespect toward HD. Is this how you want others to see you?




Kerry and I (Bill) are in strong agreement about the following:

There's a 'funneling' function - a directional process - which leads from Camelot to Avalon.

People get their data from Camelot (if they don't have it already). Avalon is then what to do about it.

Huh? I don't know what you're driving at overall. I will respond as best I can.

First, as I said before, I know what I know. You may doubt it all you like. That is your perogative.

I'm sorry if you don't like my posts or find them uninformative. I tried to share the knowledge I've accumulated over the past 43 years. I've also tried to ask relevant questions so that I can learn.

I really don't know what you're talking about "the link that I referred to". I'm not sure that I ever referred to a link.

I sent a PM to the user Admin on September 23rd suggesting the thread be removed. It really doesn't matter now because it is gone.

Carol,

I don't want to get into some flame war here.

If you choose to see my post as reckless, lacking judgement and disrespectful - that is also your perogative. I suspect you say that only because you disbelieve what I say.

If you feel that I don't contribute - or that I disrupt - then ban me. Again, that's your perogative.

I feel like you're lashing out at me for some reason on this HD issue - and I'm really not sure why. Your judgements make me very uncomfortable.

[Carol]

Originally Posted by arcora

Huh? I don't know what you're driving at overall. I will respond as best I can.

First, as I said before, I know what I know. You may doubt it all you like. That is your perogative.

I'm sorry if you don't like my posts or find them uninformative. I tried to share the knowledge I've accumulated over the past 43 years. I've also tried to ask relevant questions so that I can learn.

I really don't know what you're talking about "the link that I referred to". I'm not sure that I ever referred to a link.

I sent a PM to the user Admin on September 23rd suggesting the thread be removed. It really doesn't matter now because it is gone.

Carol,

I don't want to get into some flame war here.

If you choose to see my post as reckless, lacking judgement and disrespectful - that is also your perogative. I suspect you say that only because you disbelieve what I say.

If you feel that I don't contribute - or that I disrupt - then ban me. Again, that's your perogative.

I feel like you're lashing out at me for some reason on this HD issue - and I'm really not sure why. Your judgements make me very uncomfortable.

If someone were to come here telling the entire forum that they know your real identity.. how would feel?

Do you think that stating in a public forum, that is open to thousands of people for viewing, that you know the real identity of one of the witnesses (who delibertly choose to be anonymous while posting here) is being respectful toward the person you are exposing to your "truth" as you see it?

Whether I believe you or disbelieve you is not a personal issue for me. The issue is the complaints others are sending to us regarding your style of commuication in this particular thread.

[arcora]

Originally Posted by Carol

If someone were to come here telling the entire forum that they know your real identity.. how would feel?

Do you think that stating in a public forum, that is open to thousands of people for viewing, that you know the real identity of one of the witnesses (who delibertly choose to be anonymous while posting here) is being respectful toward the person you are exposing to your "truth" as you see it?

Whether I believe you or disbelieve you is not a personal issue for me. The issue is the complaints others are sending to us regarding your style of commuication in this particular thread.

If I were trying to remain anonymous and keep my identity hidden from a particular agency or agencies - I would be incredibly thankful for the warning. But, maybe that's just me. I would also like to add that I have told NOBODY what I know - even though MANY have asked.

If I have offended anyone with my style of communicating - I offer a sincere apology. It was never my intent to offend.

If some are offended by my message, that is another story. I posted my opinions on my observations with the caveat that it was for those who cared.

If you are through belittling me, I think I shall go to bed.

[Carol]

Originally Posted by arcora

If I were trying to remain anonymous and keep my identity hidden from a particular agency or agencies - I would be incredibly thankful for the warning. But, maybe that's just me. I would also like to add that I have told NOBODY what I know - even though MANY have asked.

If I have offended anyone with my style of communicating - I offer a sincere apology. It was never my intent to offend.

If some are offended by my message, that is another story. I posted my opinions on my observations with the caveat that it was for those who cared.

If you are through belittling me, I think I shall go to bed.

Your victim stance does not serve you. If a warning was what you wished to give it would have better served Henry if it had been passed on in "private" PMs to Bill, Henry and the mods. Not in a public forum.