Proton accelerator / black holes September 10th

[Fred]

Hi Im not here to Spam Stuff but this got my attention a friend of mind brought this to me.
Proton Accelerator

Quick info (not sure its all right but just to give a small picture of it)

Big circular tubing system under earth in France/Swiss border

They take molecules and make them go fast (really fast) around the circle (17 miles circle)
(not sure but Dann Brown in demon and Angel is talking about This)

They collide molecules (protons) to make them smaller and get to the smallest part to find out the composition of the smallest particles known

The CERN is making a new one and are testing it on September 10th

ill give you a link you may want to check they give you all the details and they are talking about Black hole because this will go at 99.9% of light speed


If anyone knows anything about it

I know Einstein and some Greats minds of this planet had alot of theories about time travel and Light speed

http://www.physorg.com/news139467844.html

Quote from the site

But will the collisions be powerful enough to create a tiny mass of particles with a gravitational pull so strong it can "eat" other matter -- a microscopic black hole? And if yes, could such a thing grow big enough to swallow Earth itself?

The fact is, the LHC could produce a tiny, extremely short-lived (read: harmless) black hole. It is an unlikely event, but one that physicists are nonetheless excited about. However, they discount the possibility of a stable black hole -- one with the chance to grow into something worth worrying about -- as much more science fiction than science.

Recently, two physicists took a close, practical look at the issue by examining known astrophysical phenomena, using what scientists already know about the universe to determine the likelihood that the LHC will produce stable black holes on Earth.

but if the black hole was neutral, and if it was also stable, emitting no Hawking radiation, that could be troubling. Giddings and Mangano examine this scenario despite that the likelihood of it occurring is almost zero, since scientists believe that neutralization could not occur without the emission of Hawking radiation. Neutralization and Hawking radiation are intricately linked quantum processes; if one is occurring, the other should be, too.


Just take a look at the whole thing

Fred

Montreal/QC

[uniconr]

i believe actual particle collision doesnt happen for a few more weeks, but september 10th is the first official test date of the particle beam. there is legal action being taken, but we will see how quickly the european court of human rights bureaucracy process it

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...the-world.html

[Event_Horizon]

I just finished watching "Michael Tsarion-The Destruction Of Atlantis". I was just wondering what other peoples thoughts are on the connection between the alleged attempt to break the energy web/net surounding the planet, that has been going on for the last 11'000+ years and CERN's Large Haldron Collider?.

Links to the video bellow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNetL...eature=related

Dear Inhabitants of this "Pale Blue Dot",

i scribble these bits here - while under the influence of a multitude of powerful prescription medications and chronic Intractable pain... so please excuse any typos.

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It takes time to align the CERN systems.
So enjoy the wait.

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'...
CERN’s web site states that we have not been destroyed by effects of cosmic rays and micro black holes will evaporate.

Cosmic rays travel at too high a velocity to be captured by Earths gravity, and Hawking Radiation is disputed http://XXX.LANL.gov/abs/gr-qc/0304042 and contradicts Einstein’s relatively successful relativity theory.

Collider particles smash head on like a car collision and can be captured by Earth’s gravity, and relativity predicts micro black holes will not decay (Hawking called Einstein doubly wrong, yet it is Einstein who is repeatedly found to have been correct in his theories) - Not all of his theories - but most of them. There is currently no reasonable proof of LHC safety, LSAG (LHC Safety Assessment Group) has been trying for months to prove safety without success.

If micro black holes are created, calculation might need to account for the same quantum effects that Hawking predicts but as an accelerator not as a decay factor.

NewScientist March 22-28 “Stakes get higher in antimatter puzzle”: “We can say with greater than 99.7 per cent probability that CP violation is there” says Sivestrini [of Italy’s National Institute of Nuclear Physics INFN] (link from Los Alamos National Laboratories: http://XXX.LANL.gov/abs/0803.0659).

Cosmic Rays...

…any such novel particle created in nature by cosmic ray impacts would be left with a velocity at nearly the speed of light, relative to earth. At such speeds, …, is believed by most theorists to simply pass harmlessly through our planet with relatively minor impact. … Conversely, some novel particles that might be created at the LHC may be at a low velocity relative to earth's velocity. A fair percentage could be captured by earth’s gravity, and could possibly accrete matter with disastrous consequences of your earth becoming a large black hole.... '

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"God doesn't play dice"...
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Bottom line:
i have participated in many similar/related projects over a period of many decades - with teams of many organizations and agencies (globally, etc.) and we are still here. ( at least i am "here" - not sure if anyone else is anymore )

Regardless of the above,
There is a High probability Earth will be here for a long long time.

Earth Does have a number of futures already!

Other undesirable effects can be created from the operation of accelerators functioning at Tera-V magnitudes. I do not wish to discuss those effects at this "time". Similar breaches in the fabric have been created many times in the "past".

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Life is very short. Like vapor in the desert.

Enjoy the time you have here.

Best wishes for your good health and happiness.

May you find Your bliss.
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[Bill Ryan]

Originally Posted by Henry Deacon

Re: Con CERN ? not really

[snip]

at least i am "here" - not sure if anyone else is anymore )

This really made me laugh...

(Henry has a wonderful sense of humor. Look for it everywhere, especially in unusual places )

...something that was always impossible to portray on the fact-focused Project Camelot.

So here we can have a bit more fun.

Hi, Henry!

Welcome to Avalon. I'm more than delighted you're here. We'll have to get you talking to Michael St.Clair, who was also online last time I looked. (Hi, Michael!) And maybe David Wilcock will drop in... would be quite a party.

Folks - listen to this guy, along the way. He knows stuff.

A bug hug to you, Henry

Very best to all, Bill

[Avid]

Thank you Mr Deacon for participating, I've sent this link to my new clear scientist partner - who at best ignores every warning I find!
There are obviously more serious matters to deal with... (in the next few weeks)!

[shaundelear]

I watched a guy called David Adair he claimed to have built a magnetic encased fusion rocket engine and the way he described it was working on the same principals as the particle acclelerators.
He was encasing a sun with arocket nozzel!
Big Fat Claim -due to the fact it uses a sun -light speed capable!
Would be good if he could explain it coz we are getting complicated folks.

[RubyTuesday]

CERN excites me.

Hello Henry Deacon! I enjoy reading the transcripts of your interviews so much! Will I scare you if I say I'm your biggest fan? Thank you for all you have done and will do as I know there's more to come.

This forum is awesome! If Wilcock joins I'll be one happy lady!

Thank you "Ruby".

i hope you will support anyone's efforts to support a positive view of life.

The "doom and gloom" material presented to the masses, only serves to instill temporal fear and control.

The minority who believe they can control and own this world Will fail. They truely are the ignorant ones.

They do not understand the true nature of the realm we all reside in...

The "so-called elite" attempt to acquire That which is "maya".... so they will have acquired nothing But "maya" in the end. :-) Maybe even "war" and conflict will continue in Their worlds beyond... That is of their worlds but not of mine.

We will have peace and harmony if we wish for it and we turn our focus, attention and efforts in the direction of peace, cooperation and harmony.

No physics lessons or data here.
That work is done... not of interest or importance to me.

Training of one's heart/mind is Key - It is the Fifth Element.

[Antaletriangle]

This is a great series of 6 vids. from the BBC entitled 'End Day' -6 different scenarios on waking up at the same time (7.00) every morning and how the day unfolds from Bird flu to asteroids,tsunamis,and a black hole in this last one attached below!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=T1vKisefsuI

[eleni]

Thank you PCamelot for putting this site together. And a big thank you to Henry Deacon for daring to step forward.

[Samson]

This physicist explains so clearly what theyre trying to prove with CERN, i thought it would be a good idea to mention it here. 42 highly entertaining minutes that might make you re-think your reality. I hope youll enjoy as much as i did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-vKh_jKX7Q

[stefaan]

Pensioned research engineer Boyd Bushman who worked at Lockheed-Martin, tells us in the video below that the fysicians are on the wrong track with their Standard Field Model Theory. Lockheed-Martin would be hiding a lot of knowledge about the structure of the universe. This, maybe dangerous experiments with the LHC perhaps wouldn't be necessary if they made their knowledge public.

http://video.google.nl/videoplay?doc...76446626962537 (26min)

He also talks about UFO's antigravity...

[Liv]

Thank You, Henry Deacon!
I've eagerly watched and read your Project Camelot interviews and became one of your many admirerers.
The important thing at this time is to remember WE ARE LOVE. This is the message I receive from the invisible. However, I believe we must be aware of what is going on while maintaining peace in mind.
Love, Light, Beauty & Joy,
Liv

[Kate]

[QUOTE=Henry Deacon;1782]Dear Inhabitants of this "Pale Blue Dot",

i scribble these bits here - while under the influence of a multitude of powerful prescription medications and chronic Intractable pain... so please excuse any typos.

I HOPE YOUR FEELING BETTER AND RECOVER VERY SOON HENRY!
thanks for contributions to this site...I have to admit I was sceptical that this was not someone else using your pseudonym, however Bill assures that this is indeed you..their main man for 'source' info!
I am deeply grateful for what you have done by taking risks and coming forward...just look how many people are arriving here in just a few days!! and each of us is spreading the word in any way possible. INCREDIBLE!

you have my respect.

stay safe!

thankyou.
namaste

[andromeda]

Originally Posted by Henry Deacon

Dear Inhabitants of this "Pale Blue Dot",

i scribble these bits here - while under the influence of a multitude of powerful prescription medications and chronic Intractable pain... so please excuse any typos.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

It takes time to align the CERN systems.
So enjoy the wait.

---------------------------------------------------------------------
'...
CERN’s web site states that we have not been destroyed by effects of cosmic rays and micro black holes will evaporate.

Cosmic rays travel at too high a velocity to be captured by Earths gravity, and Hawking Radiation is disputed http://XXX.LANL.gov/abs/gr-qc/0304042 and contradicts Einstein’s relatively successful relativity theory.

Collider particles smash head on like a car collision and can be captured by Earth’s gravity, and relativity predicts micro black holes will not decay (Hawking called Einstein doubly wrong, yet it is Einstein who is repeatedly found to have been correct in his theories) - Not all of his theories - but most of them. There is currently no reasonable proof of LHC safety, LSAG (LHC Safety Assessment Group) has been trying for months to prove safety without success.

If micro black holes are created, calculation might need to account for the same quantum effects that Hawking predicts but as an accelerator not as a decay factor.

NewScientist March 22-28 “Stakes get higher in antimatter puzzle”: “We can say with greater than 99.7 per cent probability that CP violation is there” says Sivestrini [of Italy’s National Institute of Nuclear Physics INFN] (link from Los Alamos National Laboratories: http://XXX.LANL.gov/abs/0803.0659).

Cosmic Rays...

…any such novel particle created in nature by cosmic ray impacts would be left with a velocity at nearly the speed of light, relative to earth. At such speeds, …, is believed by most theorists to simply pass harmlessly through our planet with relatively minor impact. … Conversely, some novel particles that might be created at the LHC may be at a low velocity relative to earth's velocity. A fair percentage could be captured by earth’s gravity, and could possibly accrete matter with disastrous consequences of your earth becoming a large black hole.... '

------------------------------
"God doesn't play dice"...
------------------------------

Bottom line:
i have participated in many similar/related projects over a period of many decades - with teams of many organizations and agencies (globally, etc.) and we are still here. ( at least i am "here" - not sure if anyone else is anymore )

Regardless of the above,
There is a High probability Earth will be here for a long long time.

Earth Does have a number of futures already!

Other undesirable effects can be created from the operation of accelerators functioning at Tera-V magnitudes. I do not wish to discuss those effects at this "time". Similar breaches in the fabric have been created many times in the "past".

----------------------------------------------------------
Life is very short. Like vapor in the desert.

Enjoy the time you have here.

Best wishes for your good health and happiness.

May you find Your bliss.
----------------------------------------------------------

Hi, sorry to hear you are not well. If you believe in remote healing we can send you some. If you are interested please email me privately with the nature of your illness. Love and Light

[Kukulcanessa]

First pictures of hydrogen collider from test run on September 10, 2008


One of the first image from CMS when the beam hitting the collimators at Point 5



Next image from CMS when the beam hitting the collimators at Point 5




CMS : real first beam event on September 10

I don't believe a word of any of these stuff - of henry deacon .
and david wilcock talk about stuff that he dreamed about ???
WTF ?

how can anyone believe those stuff ?
these people are riding on the wave - of the ufo and the economic situation , to make money or to be highlight . no one are giving any evidence !

I saw on the website that george green pick a phone call to kerry and...
in the phonecall , he told "things are realy coming" .
WOW ! ! ! NO KIDING ? ? ?
it's all over the news !!!
it's already here , where were you ?!?!?!

[2infinityandbeyond]

Originally Posted by johnyboy

I saw on the website that george green pick a phone call to kerry and...
in the phonecall , he told "things are realy coming" .

..Whilst probably munching on a cheese burger in McDonnalds.
Mr Green is far to blunt and cocky for my liking.
Does he really feel he has the status quo to just ring up Bill and Kerry and say "its really coming" then hang up the phone and continue eating his burger whilst wiping the mayonaise of his mouth with his money.

Its not fair to put out a message like that, considering all of the people he is exposed too. And he obviously doesnt seem to have much respect for his audience, any man with information shows the person how he got it and it would not be ethical to just spout out something and then act like we are too dumb to understand how he came to the conclusion.


When asked is there free energy ; "Yea gather round and look at this neat little thing" ; and commences to put on a cheap trick show which added up to absolutely nothing of any value. im sorry lol but that just ****** me off.

[Fredkc]

Hot Damn! looks like I can post! Ty for all the hard work to get here, admins. Put in for a raise!


Now...

Henry Deacon;
Bottom line: i have participated in many similar/related projects over a period of many decades - with teams of many organizations and agencies (globally, etc.) and we are still here. ( at least i am "here" - not sure if anyone else is anymore )

"Yes, my Baron... you're still here." - Dune

I have participated in only one, myself. It was a rather fun one though. I did about 2 years on the team that built (takes a deep breath...) the Loma Linda University Medical Center, Radiation Research Labs, Proton Therapy Project. (try and get all of that one one line in a resume ) A link to the place can be found here.

The device is called a synchrotron. The idea is to magnetically accumulate and run protons round and round in a circle, then "spill" them out in a "coherent" beam to do a job. In this case, the job was destroying cancerous tumors.

It began with what's called a "spanker" a device that electro-magnetically pulls and separates protons from, in our case, helium atoms. Once extracted they were collected and sent round a tube, kept at vacuum, until they reached approximately 250 MEV. MEV = Million Electron Volts. or 250 million times "the amount of energy gained by a single unbound electron when it accelerates through an electrostatic potential difference of one volt." wikipedia

Note: I was a mechanical designer, and a programmer for the treatment apparatus section, so don't ask me physics stuff. I was not part of the "Slip-On Shoe Brigade". Our nickname for the "physics weenies". My job was in the engineering dept. the place where pipe dreams are humbled by reality.

One of my fav memories of the time spent was .... well the parking lot. Each morning there must have been 20+ cars in the parking lot... ALL with New Mexico license plates. Downstairs were at least 20 physicists who were all thrilled to death to be spending their time working on something to save lives, instead of "Ending Liffe On Earth As We Know It".

So, after the strenght of beam is calculated, and an MRI of the "target" is acquired to know its shape, the beam is columated and modulated to put its Bragg Peak within the tumor. Accuracy was said to be within 0.03 inches, or .8mm .

Now, we worked real hard to try and keep all our protons goin' the same direction. call it a whim. But one of the benefits of the whole thing was that this was not a "live source". That once you killed the power, this here critter was dead.

Now, owing to the fact that I dared question a few of the wrong people's designs, I didn't make the cut to work on the next project many went to, that being the "never to be" collider in Texas. So my peripheral education of this stuff kinda stopped there.

So....
Question: Is there some point where these colliding particles can take on an unsupported life of their own?
Where turning off the power no longer ends the experiment ?
Do they even know?
Do they care? (physics folk can be a bit too esoteric for their own good, ya know)

I'd love to hear about it.

Next:

The "so-called elite" attempt to acquire that which is "maya".... so they will have acquired nothing.

It always puzzled me. If, by gobbling up every loose dollar, guilder and sheckel they think to conquer folk... I miss how this works. Particularly if they have also made them worthles in the process.

I mean, those who stick around will obviously switch to some form of barter, or some means of trade with a media universally available. Said media won't be the money they've so carefully squirreled away so....

• Sure they've impoverished the rest of us, temporarily
• Yes, they have all the money,

But of what use would it be? "Maya" indeed.

Fredkc

Originally Posted by Event_Horizon

I just finished watching "Michael Tsarion-The Destruction Of Atlantis". I was just wondering what other peoples thoughts are on the connection between the alleged attempt to break the energy web/net surounding the planet, that has been going on for the last 11'000+ years and CERN's Large Haldron Collider?.

Links to the video bellow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNetL...eature=related

It wouldn't surprise me. I don't think that the guys you're obliquely referring to don't want to be here any more than we want them here. I have my reasons for placing a lot of credence in Tsarion's work, and the way I see it there are three main players in our worldly drama- us, them and the guys who locked them in with us.

The sooner they leave the better, because then all 3 players can face their own karma without interference. Seems to me the jailors get overlooked most of the time.

[Ceara]

I'm not worried about it.

In fact, I'm kind of excited about this.

However scientists have a bad habit of dismissing what they can't quantify or measure. Let's just hope whatever the results, we might finally begin to understand.

Science and Spirituality will one day be Einstein's dream of "Theory of Everything."

So, it all begins tomorrow, the 10th. But we probably won't get any press releases about what happened for a long, long time. Their successes or failures will be glossed over with vague words in the media.

[Swamisalami]

We had beautiful wheater in the lowlands of Holland, near the waterfront. Almost burned my skull. Felt great.

The Netherlands greet you Mister "Deacon".

Avé

The Swami

[noelnewell]

I, too, am so glad to "meet" you Henry. I pay very close attention to the Project Camelot's site as well as David Wilcock's and Ian Lungold's. I thank all of their teams from the bottom of my heart for all their time and effort.

I find it interesting that Ben Fulford talked about an event happening on Sept. 10th and now the rumor is the LHC will be tried on Sept 10th. Just speculation of course...

[Vikingswan]

HOOOOT!

What a joy to be here with all of you!


"Kind words can be short and easy to speak, but their echoes are truly endless."
~ Mother Theresa


Cheers Vikingswan