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Old 09-25-2008, 10:47 AM   #1
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Default Have you read the Ground Crew books ?

I want to see how many of us have read any of the books "Messages to the Ground Crew", "Handbook for a New Paradigm", "Becoming" and "Embracing the Rainbow".

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BTW: if you havent, you can get them here: www.nomorehoaxes.com [ http://www.nomorehoaxes.com/shop/pro...roducts_id=244 ]

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Old 09-25-2008, 12:27 PM   #2
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Yes, I've read them. I'd like to point out that the books state repeatedly that we should NOT focus on the perceived enemy or the problems ahead. Rather, we should focus on the positive future that we want to live in. I'm not seeing much of the latter in this forum, and a lot of the former.

The last book, Messages for the Ground Crew, states that too few people have been awakened to have an effect. This was repeated by George Green in his latest interview. I refuse to give up hope. We still need a vision for the future we want to live in, regardless of what happens.
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Old 09-25-2008, 04:56 PM   #3
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...the books state repeatedly that we should NOT focus on the perceived enemy or the problems ahead. Rather, we should focus on the positive future that we want to live in. I'm not seeing much of the latter in this forum, and a lot of the former.

The last book, Messages for the Ground Crew, states that too few people have been awakened to have an effect...We still need a vision for the future we want to live in, regardless of what happens.


I haven't read 'em, didn't know about them. I rarely have money to spend on books, especially new ones. Nevertheless I agree wholeheartedly with what you're expressing. We HAVE to find ways of conquering fear and focusing on what is positive. I think this is especially hard for the young, who have not lived long enough to know that suffering is inevitable, we cannot prepare for everything, and yes. it's all worth it if you make worthy choices.

Yes, I think too few people are awake for any kind of critical mass to be near. The way to reach people is with positivity. There is much to learn, and much to teach. Negativity will alienate people even more from higher vibrations. It's our job to show people how to move through this.

And to echo a post from another thread...it's time for us Elders to step up and use our knowledge and wisdom on behalf of the future.


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Old 09-25-2008, 09:42 PM   #4
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Greeting's to all, Yes I have read and advise all to!
I find it very interesting that George Green, helped publish the books, but did not have anything to do with the messages. Apparently these messages have been given to several sources for distribution, but money and greed have also played into the messages becoming known. George, apparently saw a financial opportunity and a possible devine blessing, possibly in that order? giovonni

Look, I admire Mr. Green, and believe these messages, but I still, have questions concerning his origin with this material and connections with the Billy Meir's case and his contact material ( ufomind.com) 1999 article.
NoMoreHoax.com is a publishing business site that sells many products to make money. Underwriting and offering these handbooks at a low cost or free, is a small price to pay, for all the attention and pubicity these transcribed messages have brought to Mr. Green, not to mention his speaking engagement career. giovonni

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Old 09-25-2008, 11:07 PM   #5
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George, apparently saw a financial opportunity and a possible devine blessing, possibly in that order? giovonni
The books cost me so little, when I bought them I think they were sent to me at cost. I dont see how he could have been doing this for the money.

Kudo's to the ET's who got thier important message into print by any means.

Incidently, I would also add to all the above posts - please dont treat these books as Gospel.

Each line must be read with discernment - you must exercise freewill - and you should not assume they are all true.

With regard to the "it's too late" part - remember - they were written a while ago, and things could easily have changed by now. Phenomenal changes are afoot, and Project Avalon is proof.

Never give up.

We will win.

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Old 09-25-2008, 11:52 PM   #6
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Greeting's to all, Yes I have read and advise all to!
I find it very interesting that George Green, helped publish the books, but did not have anything to do with the messages. Apparently these messages have been given to several sources for distribution, but money and greed have also played into the messages becoming known. George, apparently saw a financial opportunity and a possible devine blessing, possibly in that order? giovonni
Nothing could be further from the truth! George Green himself RECEIVED and TRANSCRIBED the messages and published the books. He used to send an absolutely free copy of the first book to anyone who asked for it and maybe he still does - I don't know.

Also, he expressly ALLOWED anyone to copy and distribute the books in any form and without any permission from him in order that the information could be distributed as widely as possible. This is why one can find the text on several different websites. How many other authors/publishers would be willing to do that?
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Old 09-28-2008, 07:16 AM   #7
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I agree about too many people harping on the negative. Consciousness manifests change by envisioning the world as if it's already in the state we want not by wishing for it to become that or hoping for it. With that said, I've heard based on the way universal meditations get compounded exponentially, it would only take 8000 people all meditating on the same thing to bring about an affect. If this is the case then we are doing well, there have to at "least" be several million globally who are meditating for world peace. I don't believe not enough people have been waken. More come on board every day. Our numbers are growing. James Gilliland stated in an interview on the Conscious network interview that agents from the alphabet agencies have left their agencies after seeing light ships first hand and realizing they've been working for the wrong side. Love is a POWERFUL thing.
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Old 09-28-2008, 12:19 PM   #8
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Yes, I've read them. I'd like to point out that the books state repeatedly that we should NOT focus on the perceived enemy or the problems ahead. Rather, we should focus on the positive future that we want to live in. I'm not seeing much of the latter in this forum, and a lot of the former.

The last book, Messages for the Ground Crew, states that too few people have been awakened to have an effect. This was repeated by George Green in his latest interview. I refuse to give up hope. We still need a vision for the future we want to live in, regardless of what happens.
agree Jnana,

by refering to an enemy, one is creating one and empowering that idea. things have been, and continue to change since the books came out. the scenario is not even history.
i have a vision too, like most of us here i bet!

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Old 09-28-2008, 04:35 PM   #9
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To answer the O.P.

Yes, I have read all the 4 books of the New Paradigm coming. Yes, it is from a higher dimensional being with the intention of triggering our Knowledge. M.Green was the humble human brain available to manifest it to us.

Yes, it did woke me up much more then I was before, because I was already on this path since several years.

Yes, it confirms visions I had in my youth.

Yes, it does transform me and all my surrounding. We are experiencing a bit of what human potential means.

Yes, we are the ground crew and here from page 145 of "Becoming", quote: "Those who identify with this New Paradigm of experience will move into it. Those who don't, will be allowed more experience until another opportunity is created individually or collectively to choose again."

It's your freewill, you decide.

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Old 09-28-2008, 04:48 PM   #10
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Most visitors to this site are probably similar in at least one aspect. They are all seeking THE TRUTH. We are looking for answers to why things are as they are. We want to know why the economy is crashing, why we are at constant war, why we as a species just can't seem to get along. At some level, we all know that this should not be the natural state of mankind.

So we search for information, and at some point in our quest we begin to find some answers. Invariably, the answers lead to more questions, so the cycle continues. I believe one of the messages from the Ground Crew books is that the quest for answers is ongoing, but DO NOT lose your perspective.

It is possible to get caught up in the details of what is going on, who is responsible, and what is going to happen next. We can focus too much on the preparations and the planning, and lose sight that we are spiritual beings caught up in a play. As it talks about in the Handbook, our most important job is to REWRITE THE PLAY!

I have a great deal of admiration for everyone who contributes to this site. In my mind, we are some of the most aware beings on this planet today. Is it an accident we find ourselves here, now, in this moment in history? I do not think so. We feel this urge to uncover the truth of the reality we are awakening to. Knowledge is power, and with power comes a larger responsibility. This responsibility can not be ignored.

Don't get me wrong. I fully realize that if you are hungry, cold, and without a roof over your head you are not worth a damn to anyone. Knowledge and preparation are the first things to get going on. As we are moving on these items, we must also create a vision of what we would desire.

We are taught that a Utopian world is a foolish dream. 'You're just a foolish dreamer, go out and get a real job, you lazy bum!'. I wonder why we are taught that? If we never dream or visualize it, do you think it will ever come into creation!?

I urge everyone on this forum to read these books, think about them, and come to your own conclusion.
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Old 09-29-2008, 09:36 AM   #11
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Old 09-29-2008, 04:11 PM   #12
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Reading these books has literally been life-changing for me. The books came along at a perfect time in my spiritual evolution. There have been three major bodies of information that has changed my life and reinforced my belief system.

-The movie "What the Bleep do you know?" <-- about quantum physics and the science to how we create our own universes.

-Book "Journey of Souls" written by Michael Newton <-- Hypnotherapist that regresses people to their life between lives. Thousands of people hypnotized, all the same story about what happens when we die. Truly inspiring book.

-The movie "Zeitgeist" <-- one of the first films about all the conspiracies that really got my attention and woke me up. Available free on google.

- George Green's New Paradigm books <-- I read them even now and I'm soooo happy! I love them so much, that I wouldn't care if they turned out to be pieces of fiction. The message is so strong and coincides with all of the other things that I have always believed in.

Read them, you won't regret it.

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Old 09-30-2008, 12:42 AM   #13
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I have read part of one. I wish I could say I profited from it, but I ridged up immediately due to the "everything you know is wrong" style of writing.

If we are that hopeless, why bother with us? We must have something going for us if we are looking around for answers.

I get a queasy feeling from him too, as if he is a disinformation agent sent in to make trouble. Mind you, I don't know this to be true in any way, I just get a "bad vibe" from him, unlike most of the people Bill and Kerry have interviewed. At times there is an almost contemptuous tone to his replies to questions, as if he thinks he is talking to mouth-breathing dupes at his masters' request.

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Old 09-30-2008, 01:14 AM   #14
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I agree with all of you in some measure - but I refuse to be dragged into any discussion on whether or not he either is or is not of the best intent or character. I have seen how that plays out with some of the the other personalities, whistleblowers and witnesses on here.

I strongly feel that it is best to concentrate on the message and not the messenger.

Do I agree with every line in the paradigm series - no.

Do I think they are worth reading - you betcha

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Old 09-30-2008, 07:21 PM   #15
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I agree with all of you in some measure - but I refuse to be dragged into any discussion on whether or not he either is or is not of the best intent or character.
No worries, Anchor -- no one's trying to "drag" you anywhere.

My intent in my previous post was not to attack Mr. Green, but only to ask if others had experience with intuition in this regard. One of the skills that I think are extremely important in this so-called "New Paradigm" is learning to trust one's gut when it comes to sorting out the truth. My interest was in judging the merit of my own reaction by whether others had felt the same (at least in part).

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I strongly feel that it is best to concentrate on the message and not the messenger.
I would normally agree, but in the current climate, I'm not so sure that's the best approach. After watching the interviews that Bill and Kerry have done, we've learned that there is a great deal of misinformation out there. We've also learned that anything causing fear should be carefully weighed since negative emotions, at least from a spiritual standpoint, can attract the very things we fear.

Regardless of whether Mr. Green is genuine or not, I certainly hope he's wrong about much of what he says.
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Old 09-30-2008, 11:30 PM   #16
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No worries, Anchor -- no one's trying to "drag" you anywhere.
Um yes ok, sorry, that was my ego getting in the way.

Consider a set of words containing truth.

Would it make any difference to you if they were delivered by Icke, Jesus of Nazereth, Wilcock, Bush or Cheney?

To allow ones sense of discrimination to be predjudiced by what one thinks of the messenger is to foil its fidelity.

No-one will ever convince me something is a lie, just because of who says it.

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Old 10-01-2008, 02:22 PM   #17
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Old 10-01-2008, 03:16 PM   #18
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if you found the books in a box in a forest, with no clues as to who left it there or whos hand penned it, would you try to imagine who the author would be, and speculate &wonder?
Or would you sit down with them and revel in their delights?

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Old 10-01-2008, 06:23 PM   #19
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Old 10-02-2008, 07:55 PM   #20
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Would it make any difference to you if they were delivered by Icke, Jesus of Nazereth, Wilcock, Bush or Cheney?
Most definitely. One always has to take into account what agenda a person might have. Words alone mean nothing.

I come from a background of psychology. As a therapist, one of the first things we learn is to read a person through their body language, as well as their known history. Without being able to see the whole person as much as possible, there is little one can do to help them.

Does that mean we should believe everything someone says simply because of who they are? Certainly not. But does it have bearing on how the message is, and should be, taken? Most definitely.

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To allow ones sense of discrimination to be predjudiced by what one thinks of the messenger is to foil its fidelity.
If it were indeed "prejudice," I would agree with you. However, I'm talking here about making an informed decision. This is actually the opposite of "prejudice."

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Nor should they. But one would hope, if Hitler walked up to you today and said he wanted to show you the new tile in his shower, that you would hesitate at least a bit.
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Old 10-11-2008, 07:59 PM   #21
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...I strongly feel that it is best to concentrate on the message and not the messenger...
Wise words.

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Old 10-02-2008, 02:39 AM   #22
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Read them in '04-'05, had a physical copy of the first book but loaned it away. Just this week I ordered the 4 book set so that I can read the final book. It is a great deal, $20 for four books basically. The books are definitely life-changing material, along with many other things I was reading at the time.

The hardest part for me has been connecting with other people. I have been aspiring to become involved in sustainable self-sufficient community since I read the books, but have not found people in real life with whom I really connected in that way. I found some communities but the energies were not good, and later I learned that they had dissolved. I live near Mt. Shasta now. I am aware of folks in this area who have been saying they want to form communities for the past couple years, but they always seem to be seeking that elusive "investor" who's going to make it all happen financially.

I escaped the city and now live in a beautiful quiet place, but I am very isolated and feel disconnected from financial abundance... I have been "just getting by" for many years.. I visualize a future where we can all have what we need without competition & sacrifice, and we don't have to worry about things such as gasoline, unpolluted food & water, or medicine.

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Old 10-02-2008, 03:15 AM   #23
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Read them in '04-'05, had a physical copy of the first book but loaned it away. Just this week I ordered the 4 book set so that I can read the final book. It is a great deal, $20 for four books basically. The books are definitely life-changing material, along with many other things I was reading at the time.
I read all 3 of the books shortly after they were published and later read the "Messages for the Ground Crew" booklet after it became available. I also found them to be life changing and have re-read all 4 books several times.

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I think this has been the hardest part for many people who have read the books and resonated with the messages. And it is a crying shame because the plan given in the books absolutely depends upon small groups of people meeting face-to-face. Chatting in an internet forum is not sufficient.

I think George Green is correct that (up until now, at least) insufficient numbers of people have awakened to make the plan work. One can only hope that project Avalon will facilitate group meetings of sufficient numbers of people to get the plan going before it is too late. I am encouraged that in my local area (New England) about 12 of us will be meeting for dinner this Saturday evening and hopefully more (maybe smaller, more local) meetings will follow.

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I have been aspiring to become involved in sustainable self-sufficient community since I read the books, but have not found people in real life with whom I really connected in that way. I found some communities but the energies were not good, and later I learned that they had dissolved. I live near Mt. Shasta now. I am aware of folks in this area who have been saying they want to form communities for the past couple years, but they always seem to be seeking that elusive "investor" who's going to make it all happen financially.
I'd say try to do the best you can to arrange a face-to-face meeting of forum members in your area and hopefully things may start to develop from there.

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I escaped the city and now live in a beautiful quiet place, but I am very isolated and feel disconnected from financial abundance... I have been "just getting by" for many years.. I visualize a future where we can all have what we need without competition & sacrifice, and we don't have to worry about things such as gasoline, unpolluted food & water, or medicine.
If you could just get a small group of three people together to start visualizing in unison that would help an awful lot.

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Old 10-02-2008, 02:37 PM   #24
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I am lucky that my family members (wife 2 sons) are on board with the upcoming events. They have read the books and it has changed their lives. I have found that my son's friends (average 20 years of age) are much more in tune with what's going on and open to talk about it. We have had meetings to talk about the books, current events and information on the internet. Most say the same that it is hard to talk to their parents about it. They think they have lost their minds. I recently reread the handbook and it is amazing how things that did not originally make sense, now do.

Probably the hardest group to connect with is our own freinds. There is a large wall that we have trouble penetrating. They won't even listen to our concerns over aspertaime let alone other things. Find it very frustrating but with FREE WILL we can't force them to listen.
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