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Old 09-24-2008, 04:52 AM   #1
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Old 09-24-2008, 04:59 AM   #2
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And thus, this forum is centered on making communities possible, so the strange thing i see is that seems they are very sure the worst case scenerio will happen. And, that we will be back to middle age. I don´t think any golden age will come afterwards, i don´t think humans will change for the better, they had never changed after many disasters, world wars, and such, everything went the same.

How sad it sounds, anyway, using my own right to "question authority".
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Old 09-24-2008, 05:12 AM   #3
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I presently feel from my heart that the stuffing has been knocked out of the forum-i can't feel any fluidity within it-don't know why-feel the force luke!Strange man.I realise that it was becoming a little chaotic but i feel this is a little too stringent and breaks/compartmentalises issues that need addressing in a fluid and free manner which consequently brings people together to share their experiences on such matters.Before this forum i never had been a part of any other-it seems i had a love affair which lasted two weeks!lol.No worries though i shalll keep my eye on happenings and do my own research as usual-problem is i won't be able to share it as with other people!?
I have come across some really great links to ufo and hermetic stuff also today;a new crop circle series i am unable to post them though for people to appreciate-so frustrating and not right at all.

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Old 09-24-2008, 05:16 AM   #4
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I have the same opinion, It`s disgusting and ridiculous what it became (And how fast it was. I`ve never seen something like that), all we see is constant blaming and complains why people are posting so much, why they are posting certain things instead of other etc.
"It`s about ground crew"? So this means every other topic is unwanted? Then why are there the other sections? And who sais they must have certain limited number of threads?
Not to mention that they don`t even add many of the requested countries. And you can`t have a good comunity if you don`t have enough things to talk about (Not just about local issues) and to feel comfortable.
I`m really surprised that so meny people pretend to be deep in the matter, but yet they don`t understand simple things and act like non-spiritual people that don`t care/understand the vibration they are creating.
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Old 09-24-2008, 05:54 AM   #5
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i want to remain positive and hopefully this is a bump in the road for the forum.

i know that the intent is good, to build a community through these stormy waters.

i just still have many questions about all the PC witness testimony, and the nature of all the ET phenomena.

i hope that avalon doesnt just become a place to talk about survival, there are only so many threads/posts you need to read to understand that we should move to small communities , stock up on food/supplies, and that the economy will collapse and its all due to the illuminati/NWO.

i dont really subscribe to the "just be prepared physically and spiritually" and dont concern yourself with ET's,black ops,etc.

while i agree we should all be prepared in both ways, the fact is we wouldnt have even found project camelot if we werent searching for answers.

and frankly i think there are still lots of questions, especially regarding which factions are telling us to prepare for what amounts to the "end"
you have half the channelers/contactees saying its going to happen and half of them saying there will be NO earth changes, including dan burisch who says states its more likely were out of the woods on that.

we create our own reality so nothing is set in stone. in a world of info and disinfo its hard to distinguish who's telling the truth and whos not, and even who is being manipulated into telling what they think is the truth.

so to head for the hills doesnt seem to be the end all be all answer to anything.

think about whats the BEST way to depopulate a planet? nuclear war? famine? disease?

howabout the one that trumps them all? a consciouss co creation of slate wiping Extinction Level Event? to me this seems to be the most insidious plan of all, to make the people who are "aware" into inadvertenly helping the NWO/illuminati, by focusing on a future where almost no one survives but the few who ran to the hills or were in underground bases.

i find it interesting that the "nordic blondes" are the biggest proponent that this event is 100% going to happen. i find it interesting that the people warning of us of this seem to me to be what amounts to a future version of hitler's "master race"

-has no one else noticed this? why arent future black people or indian people or asians telling us this? why are "nordics" telling us there will be no "ascension" yet crop circles imply that that we WILL-as do some "light beings" other people have been contacted by.

anyhow i hope discussion along these lines will be permitted at avalon and it wont be limited purely to survival threads.
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Old 09-24-2008, 06:12 AM   #6
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-has no one else noticed this? why arent future black people or indian people or asians telling us this? why are "nordics" telling us there will be no "ascension" yet crop circles imply that that we WILL-as do some "light beings" other people have been contacted by.

anyhow i hope discussion along these lines will be permitted at avalon and it wont be limited purely to survival threads.
Wow! Thanks clarkkent. I have noticed this as well, and have seen no mention of it anywhere. I myself am a halfbreed.

As for George Green's call, I listened and found myself uneasy at the end only, when he said he hasn't been told to flee just yet. He's going to do some more lectures and wake more people up, then run. What's the deal with these guys working so hard to wake so many, and high tailing out of the country? Some support they are!!
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Old 09-24-2008, 06:19 AM   #7
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As for George Green's call, I listened and found myself uneasy at the end only, when he said he hasn't been told to flee just yet. He's going to do some more lectures and wake more people up, then run. What's the deal with these guys working so hard to wake so many, and high tailing out of the country? Some support they are!!
i dont understand it either, i appreciate the people who spread the message out of love, but at the same time its a fear/survival based idea.
like marcia schafer said "why live for death? ...live for life"

im more inclined to believe contactee's that say something to the effect of "its a possibility" if its only a possibility then why "run for it"...?
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Old 09-24-2008, 06:52 AM   #8
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I understand both concepts of Camelot and Avalon and the distinction between the two. And I cant even put into words to thank Bill and Kerry enough for allowing this community to congregate here in this forum. Yes, as I'm sure everyone was, I was too a little disoriented coming from one transition to the other. lol, out of that chaos, seemed I was able to find the information I seeked more easily as ironic as that sounds. But also, I agree, it was getting overwhelmed and from a moderators standpoint.....a nightmare and IMO, Bill and Kerry made the right decision to put the reins on when they did. But, boy, was I lost the last 24 some hours. My point is that Camelot/Avalon would have to be and has topped any forum out their, for its the GLOBAL........(global, that itself is wow for the short time we've been here) community of people and the wealth of information it allowed us to present.

Please correct me if I am wrong, but it is my belief that the Camelot message (raise the awareness) and Avalon message (raise the consciousness) both need to go hand in hand.

Although I would consider us, for the most part "awake" and "aware", there are those that have came across Avalon who are just waking up..........and that is an amazing feat and Bill and Kerry, I would hope are very proud of that. These new souls need to be guided through and what better place to learn than having a CAMELOT section for us to continue to search through the maze of information and present it here and I know its all on a personal level of being ready for AVALON......just as it was to first be awakened for CAMELOT.

I hope we can keep both resources here and as one progresses to the next, our community grows without the limit of turning the newly awakened away to "lower class forums" (and I wont name names) I'd always felt that CAMELOT/AVALON as a natural combination.


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Old 09-24-2008, 06:31 AM   #9
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As for George Green's call, I listened and found myself uneasy at the end only, when he said he hasn't been told to flee just yet. He's going to do some more lectures and wake more people up, then run. What's the deal with these guys working so hard to wake so many, and high tailing out of the country? Some support they are!!
He/They ??

We are all ONE and should stay away from judging others. Let's focus on how we do ourselves and improve ...

Sorry dragonfly this is not to attack you ... just to indicate how easy our pitfalls are to get trapped in again.

At least George Green is doing the best he can. He's human like all of us. Let's appreciate him just the way he is/does ...
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Old 09-24-2008, 06:40 AM   #10
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I apologize..it is not "he", but there are some, a generalization, and it just really stood out today. Why take such an effort to help and wake us, and then run? I don't get it. I appreciate him, and everybody who offers info. I just want to understand.
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Old 09-24-2008, 05:56 AM   #11
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Hi,

I noticed a lot of frustration here ... and perhaps I understand.
But maybe you have to approach this at a different angle ?

I noticed that more and more people were focused on "What's going to happen" and "Fact finding".
I think the difference in essence here is: awareness versus consciousness.

As probably many of you I like to analyze, get to know things and raise my awareness. What I noticed for myself is that negativity
took over and I was almost becoming a fear monger myself ...

If you arrived here you are probably already for a great deal aware of what's going on. That's very good.

But what is now needed most is to become conscious that we need a solution based on OUR good intentions.

You can't fight the system with the facts ... for several reasons:
1. It's come too far to address it 'head on'
2. We should stay away from the way they want to fight

I came to the conclusion that data mining and websites like half past human are so successful because WE are literally filling the internet
with threads and posts about facts, fear, suggestions etc.

Since we are co-creators we are LIKELY to CREATE the discussed outcome !
That's not the intention of Avalon ...

Avalon, the way I understand it, opposes the system by deliberately turn away from the facts/weapons used by the system.
When we choose are own thoughts, creative, cooperative, constructional etc. we are likely to create a better outcome.

An outcome WE choose ...

Instead of raising the awareness further and further it's more important to raise consciousness now.
Fortunately there is a lot discussion going on and many ideas are generated. I sincerely hope that we will not get stuck to that level.
If we don't leave our computers every now and then and really start physical group meetings, do concrete first steps
it will remain at idea level ...

Please stay on board, switch caps and help yourself and others to get this ship (tanker size) on course again !!
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Old 09-24-2008, 06:03 AM   #12
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George Green is a contactee and did an updated interview today. Please listen.

http://www.projectcamelot.net/audio_interviews.html

Also, Bill and Kerry did an interview over the weekend with Miriam Delicado. They believe this might be the most important interview they've have ever done, and are working to edit and release it as soon as possible.
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Old 09-24-2008, 06:19 AM   #13
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I'm not a feel-good warm fuzzy 'love and light' new ager. I'm here for the nuts and bolts. I want to know what's going on, why is it going on, how can we prepare and what is going to happen. I'm also keenly interested in the ET side of the equation. I hope Avalon can still be a place I can come and feel welcome to participate. Many of us came here through the excellent testimonies brought to Camelot, hopefully the 'fact-finders' in our forum membership won't be squeezed out.
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Old 09-24-2008, 06:46 AM   #14
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I'm not a feel-good warm fuzzy 'love and light' new ager. I'm here for the nuts and bolts. I want to know what's going on, why is it going on, how can we prepare and what is going to happen. I'm also keenly interested in the ET side of the equation. I hope Avalon can still be a place I can come and feel welcome to participate. Many of us came here through the excellent testimonies brought to Camelot, hopefully the 'fact-finders' in our forum membership won't be squeezed out.

As I said before, although I am contactee, I dont consider myself new age at all. If anything, my experinces have made me MORE nuts & bolts. The quote in bold is very important I feel. It must be balanced. Already, there are far too many members posting things as facts when infact its just some random youtube guy or whatever. We NEED the nuts & bolts people to stay & I fear many will now leave because of the shake up.
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Old 09-24-2008, 07:00 AM   #15
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As I said before, although I am contactee, I dont consider myself new age at all. If anything, my experinces have made me MORE nuts & bolts. The quote in bold is very important I feel. It must be balanced. Already, there are far too many members posting things as facts when infact its just some random youtube guy or whatever. We NEED the nuts & bolts people to stay & I fear many will now leave because of the shake up.
I agree with you, way to many postings as fact when it's just a youtube special, and I think to many front page news items started in new threads, if I want front page news I'll go to the front page.
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Old 09-24-2008, 08:05 AM   #16
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I started a thread for daily updates & articles in the economy section.
Hopefully it will prevent multiple threads apearing all over the place.
I asked for it to be pinned but it has not been. Its up to the mods to spread the word about threads like this if they want the forums to be well ordered & non-confusing.
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Old 09-24-2008, 08:18 AM   #17
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I'm not so sure I like this new format either.

I very much appreciated the tangents that users went on. So much of this can be confusing - it was invaluable to me to read and post about issues that weren't necessarily the core focus of the forum. It helped me to see the bigger picture and understand others better.

All of my life I have found inspiration for Great Ideas while following tangents. Now I feel stifled.
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Old 09-24-2008, 08:50 AM   #18
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Hi jaypierce2008,

I don't like the changes, but I think you're spot on. Good post.
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Old 09-24-2008, 09:26 AM   #19
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Hi jaypierce2008,

I don't like the changes, but I think you're spot on. Good post.
I think that this is exactly what are the changes/actions about.
"Is is that you hope by forcing your will on the rest of the forum you can change this into something that you 'like'?" - the changes are indeed about that, some people doesn`t want the forum like it is (Was, actually. And it was its natural state. Now is artifical) and want to force their will on the rest of the people.
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Old 09-24-2008, 09:34 AM   #20
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The negativity on the site now about the new forums is beyond me...we should all be grateful that Camelot and Avalon have come into our lives and we have found them. There are no coincidences. Therefore i suggest stop trying to whinge and complain how things were or should be and start positively engaging and exchanging in the now. If this place isnt for u...so be it..best of luck, love and peace to u but to continuously write thread after thread about how u know of people now confused on this site or how someone is now not returning cos its too ''moderated'' is not what this place is about and quite frankly disrespectful to Bill, Kerry and the workers on here.
There are plenty of other forums on the net to fill needs maybe this one cant for u...

No offense intended to anyone

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Old 09-24-2008, 10:07 AM   #21
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Its pointless complaining about the team selection until you see how they play
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Old 09-24-2008, 10:54 AM   #22
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I started a thread for daily updates & articles in the economy section.
Hopefully it will prevent multiple threads apearing all over the place.
I asked for it to be pinned but it has not been. Its up to the mods to spread the word about threads like this if they want the forums to be well ordered & non-confusing.
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Hiya Eyes, regarding the 'pinning' I do believe I got back to you via PM to explain what was happening...?? Everyone ( admin,mods,bill,kerry) have been working around the clock in order to get the new forum ready in time. Please, please can people display some patience here..? For a small handful of people to have achieved this change around in so little time ontop of family life/work/committments etc is incredible!!

I have just had a quick flick through this thread, and it appears to be 50/50 on how people are feeling with the changes. ( obviously, this was anticipated!)
Like ANY comminity, there will NEVER be 100% people who share the same views.

I can only say that the decision was NOT made lightly! I feel that the notice Bill/Kerry posted clarified their stance clearly.

I do hope that over a short time the members here who are not happy, will adjust to the new format and continue to contribute in the high level which was previously displayed.

This is the first opportunity for me to get online today, and view the new layout completely and catch up with postings....
look forward to the future weeks and months ahead as we grow/share in our lovely COMMUNITY!

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Old 09-24-2008, 10:23 AM   #23
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i'm asking myself why i can't post anymore in the camelot forum section. i was discussing crop circles in that section and now i don't have the right anymore to reply to some posts. can this be changed please? no point in keeping the thread alive when people can't post anymore.
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Old 09-24-2008, 12:25 PM   #24
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Bring back the ufo's - they are part of this reality also, aren't they - it's all relivant...The changes same to do with man/woman power - the mods, then the actually issues.
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Old 09-25-2008, 01:51 PM   #25
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I admit i have felt a little dispondent since the change of the forum, as was said before this forum has now become a chat on survival.
I realise how the state of the nations are right now and we should be looking towards making things more safe for ourselves and our famlies but i'm not sure all this re colonisation idea will even work,
An earlier thread i wrote touched on this, i said that the cycle of this survival agenda will focus on leaders second in commands and so on again, we will end up no better than we are today being in someone else's control.

I was under the impliction that this forum was for like minded people who are all having experiences of spiritual,psychic and et exposure.

If the site is going to be about survival only how much can one say
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