All Things NewEngland....redux

[celestine420]

OK, I recreated this thread cuz the social group page seems kinda limited and we had a good flow going.........leading up to a meeting Saturday Oct 4 in Manchester NH.

Welcome back and lets keep grooving

[Mr_mike]

mr. mike checkin in.... hope we can get back on a roll. who knows anything about the impact on 401k"s during this economic melt down

[GregorArturo]

Gregor still here alive and kicking. And as far as I know, Irving and I are still both down for the 4th.

We finally met (Irving and I) last week and had a explosively fun filled and intellectual discussion that lasted about 6 hours. My best friend and his roommate joined in on the discussion too, and things we're looking very positive between all of us.

[DoctorTony]

Hey guys

I have chosen to stay close to my family in Beantown Mass, but I WILL be there in Manchester, NH on the 4th of October to meet up with you guys anyway. I don't know what to do at this point. No one knows anything down here and I am responsible for a lot of people I know in my surrounding communities.

Dr Tony

[celestine420]

I've been giving something some thought. Take all the aspects of what may be on the horizon; martial law, economic crash, food shortage, civil unrest, weather, etc.

It seems that our region of the US has been showing less "symptoms" than say the southern states. People are less aware of turmoil because it's not staring them in the face just yet......NewEngland seems oddly pacified.

This, I believe, is due to the fact that we have always had it "better" than the rest of the states. This may be our ultimate downfall.

It is a microcosm of the macro situation that the entire US faces:
>>We as citizens took our freedoms and rights for granted...........and now they gone.<<

In the Northeast the people see themselves as above the rest of the country in many respects..........and may not take heed when strife hits our southern and western brothers, believing that it cannot possibly reach our hamlet of historic prosperity.


Basically I see a slow death of our region, giving those with open eyes ample time to "see"...........then act accordingly.


OR

TPTB could start the mayhem here...............effectively breaking the will of the rest of the country.


Imagine Boston.............lost to a disaster of any kind..................the Athens of America taken away as a resource and a guiding light.


damn i just scared myself

[DoctorTony]

Originally Posted by celestine420

I've been giving something some thought. Take all the aspects of what may be on the horizon; martial law, economic crash, food shortage, civil unrest, weather, etc.

It seems that our region of the US has been showing less "symptoms" than say the southern states. People are less aware of turmoil because it's not staring them in the face just yet......NewEngland seems oddly pacified.

This, I believe, is due to the fact that we have always had it "better" than the rest of the states. This may be our ultimate downfall.

It is a microcosm of the macro situation that the entire US faces:
>>We as citizens took our freedoms and rights for granted...........and now they gone.<<

In the Northeast the people see themselves as above the rest of the country in many respects..........and may not take heed when strife hits our southern and western brothers, believing that it cannot possibly reach our hamlet of historic prosperity.


Basically I see a slow death of our region, giving those with open eyes ample time to "see"...........then act accordingly.


OR

TPTB could start the mayhem here...............effectively breaking the will of the rest of the country.


Imagine Boston.............lost to a disaster of any kind..................the Athens of America taken away as a resource and a guiding light.


damn i just scared myself

Yes sir. Oddly pacified indeed. I don't know what they've put in the water here, but everyone is turning a blind eye to what I've been researching for the last few years. Even the ones I can talk to about it are so cynical about all of this that they don't give it any thought after that. They still think they can vote democrat and that will change everything. The ones that do listen say the same things: "I can't do anything anyway." I guess when survival is reduced to its lowest common denominator there is NO preparation that could help us adjust to the coming events - inevitable as they may be. It's all instinct at that point.
I suppose having MMS at your disposal, some shock for the water, some canned spam, a good sharp knife or two, and some martial arts/first aid knowledge will help. However, I don't even think we have that much time. I hope we have more than I think of course - but maybe my being cynical about time (an illusion) is just the reality of my surroundings.

[DoctorTony]

I just watched the Drunvalo Maldizechek video on the consciousness network again. Towards the end of the vid he talks about a pole shift soon and sure to happen. I don't really see a physical way out of that. We have to ride out the storm. Belief that we can overcome such an experience is what we have to start with.
The good news is that if the pole shift is N to S - Boston will be somewhere equivalent to a Western South American piece of land. Not bad. I would love to see some palm trees up in here like I predicted a few years ago.

Originally Posted by celestine420

OK, I recreated this thread cuz the social group page seems kinda limited and we had a good flow going.........leading up to a meeting Saturday Oct 4 in Manchester NH.

Welcome back and lets keep grooving

I'm in the suburbs of Beantown. I've been awake to all that's going on for a number if years now. My wife is a little more resistant but is slowly coming around (bit by bit). I was curious as to where you guys are meeting in Manchester NH.

[NewParadigmGuy]

Originally Posted by BASEdude

I was curious as to where you guys are meeting in Manchester NH.

The Great Buffet Restaurant, 1525 S. Willow St., Manchester (right across the street from the mall)

Oct 4th, 6:00 pm.

Originally Posted by NewParadigmGuy

The Great Buffet Restaurant, 1525 S. Willow St., Manchester (right across the street from the mall)

Oct 4th, 6:00 pm.

Thanks allot!!

[DoctorTony]

Originally Posted by NewParadigmGuy

The Great Buffet Restaurant, 1525 S. Willow St., Manchester (right across the street from the mall)

Oct 4th, 6:00 pm.

I will be there! Unless they close 93 North due to Martial Law.

[quetzalcoatl11]

I'm also located in MA,


celestine420 I agree with you that current events thoughout the country have certainly been greatly differentiated by region. I've also been under the impression that some regions of not only the US, but the world have an energy quality about them that is either extremely dense and contributes more towards a backwards type consciousness or a general 'unconciousness' and those areas where the energy is not as stuck or stagnant and allows more creative, inventive, and progressive thought. I am by no means issuing a blanket statement or generalization that all people within certain regions such as the Bible belt, etc, are steeped in ignorance, only that there are certainly areas along the earth's energy grid which facilitate a progression or evolution of consciousness and others which may require additional effort. I feel in some ways blessed to know that I'm surrounded by some of the same energy fields that surrounded some of the greatest and most creative spirits I've had the privilege to read about (Thoreau, Emerson, etc.)

[Hightower_X]

Originally Posted by NewParadigmGuy

The Great Buffet Restaurant, 1525 S. Willow St., Manchester (right across the street from the mall)

Oct 4th, 6:00 pm.

Still here guys and gals...

Spend most my forum time over at OMF as a MOD and barely have enough time to do that... Want to let Avalon cool down as well. Great forum tho...

The Great Buffet? HUH? Never been there. Is the food safe? ;]

I should be able to make it.

[celestine420]

any body else in?

say I

[DoctorTony]

Still in!



code names or anything?

[celestine420]

THE LIST
OCT 4th

celestine420
Gregor Arturo
Irving
DoctorTony
NewParadigmGuy
BASEdude
1love
Brian Peck
eaglespirit
Jay&Nikki
rouge2
Kusala
Vangelo
petesm22
Gregg


........keep'm comin

[NewParadigmGuy]

Originally Posted by celestine420

THE LIST
OCT 4th

celestine420
Gregor Arturo
Irving
DoctorTony
NewParadigmGuy
BASEdude
1love
Brian Peck


eight is a good start to a solid round-table discussion........keep'm comin

eaglespirit, Jay&Nikki, rouge2, Kusala, & Vangelo have all expressed interest as well.

[GregorArturo]

NewParadigmGuy, you said something at the meeting that St. Clair said Northern Maine would be a safe zone, I was wondering if you had any reference to that information? Thanks!

And with the meeting I really thought things were beneficial. However, at this time of times, I can really only see going with the flow and living in the moment, while avoiding the fear paranoia, as we all know until something presents itself, or at least to myself.

Someone recently made a point on the forum. Do TPTB want us to just disappear from mainstream society, the ones who COULD change the timeline dramatically? Makes me think.

This Spring, earlier the better, I'm planning, most likely with Irving and some friends, to go up to Katahdin, scout the area, and actually check out the largest cave system in Maine on the mountain. Interesting mythological significance with the cave as I mentioned earlier last month.

Otherwise, as many of us probably know, and as I see it, it's best to bunker down this winter, band together with the inevitable waking up of the masses (or at least some of them, I managed to do my fair share today of waking up sitting down with people. Times like these are opening peoples' minds), gather resources/supplies/knowledge, and think happy thoughts

The linguistics talk about mid-March with things calming down. Well that's when the snow melts here, and that's when I see things start to boil up with moving away from the coast.

I REALLY REALLY recommend people to check out the Orone Alchemy Social Group on Avalon. I've been with it to the beginning and it in itself has been its own wakening up for me. I have been studying Torsion energy for awhile, and hopefully soon with have a Unified Theory of Torsion out soon, based solely on mathematics.

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[Kusala]

Greetings to all,

It was good to meet those of you in attendance in Manchester. Mr. Mike, the link you put up is not available. Could you re-post? Gregor, I am in agreement with you that this winter is and will be an important phase of time, to hunker down and continue on making preparations for next Spring. Many of us are still attempting to divine where to position and place our respective selves (and those we care about and love).

It is obvious to those of us who are actively watching (and waking up to) the events of our world, that these are rapidly shifting times. Today, is the much talked about day...the 7th, and I intuit much is going down behind the scenes. I pulled some money out of the bank yesterday and converted it into food and supplies. Not from a place of fear, but out of a growing sense that I must keep taking incremental (elemental), practical steps towards getting through a long, cold, uncertain winter in this bio-region.

I am striving to stay centered amidst the unknowns of this de-stabilizing period in human evolution and not feed into the massive (orchestrated) fear and anxiety that is present all around us. This is an incredible opportunity for ingenuity and true community building. We are on the cusp of something we cannot yet fully see. No doubt, these are difficult, dark times. We must arouse courage to face whatever comes, no matter how history plays out.

As St. Clair said, we must be flexible, malleable during this period. Vigilance, watchfulness, a growing immunity to the chaos surrounding us. Let us, the Ground Crew, continue on in this process of waking up. Let's keep the dialogue going amongst us. We are the warriors of Light, the peaceful warriors. Let us inspire one another to keep our inner balance amidst the social disruption and madness ahead. This is all leading to a new age in the evolution of the Earth, of humanity, of Spirit...lest we forget this truth.

Peace and Light to the World and to you my brothers.

Kusala

[NewParadigmGuy]

Originally Posted by GregorArturo

NewParadigmGuy, you said something at the meeting that St. Clair said Northern Maine would be a safe zone, I was wondering if you had any reference to that information? Thanks!

In this post:

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...maine#post3537

[NewParadigmGuy]

I was surprised when I mentioned the Free State Project at the meeting and nobody had heard of it. The Free State Project is a collective effort to convince 20,000 liberty activists to move to New Hampshire and work toward reducing the size and scope of government. Check it out:

http://freestateproject.org/

So far about 8700 people have signed up for the project and almost 600 have already moved here. I have met some of these people and find that we have much in common. They are free thinkers, and while most of them have probably not gone as far down the conspiracy rabbit hole as most in this forum have, they would certainly make good allies and neighbors.

Even in their relatively small numbers so far they are definitely having an effect upon the political and even social situation here. They have moved to all areas of the state, but they seem to be concentrating somewhat more heavily in the Manchester and Keene areas, and they have also started an unusual sort of intentional community in the tiny western NH town of Grafton.

They chose Grafton because many of the people there in Grafton already share the Free Stater's libertarian leanings, and they are simply moving there in ever increasing numbers. Their idea is to be enough of a voting block to help maintain the "small government" "hands off" attitude of the town government.

The intentional community aspect is different from many intentional communities because it does not necessarily include sharing land or co-housing. Of course it could include those things if people desired them. But they are mostly just finding places they like in Grafton and moving there. One guy bought a large parcel of land, subdivided it, and is selling building lots to other project members. So they end up with like-minded neighbors. A local barter economy has even started to develop using silver coins.

[GregorArturo]

NewParadigmGuy, thanks for the link! Definetly helps clarify it slightly better, along with the whole article. It said though just Maine, and not Northern Maine, which I wanted to make sure of, cause well Maine is an absolutely huge place as we all know.

I will state here that my intuition for a fair share amount of time has been telling me the mountains of Maine for a long time, in that any other alternative I would refuse to even consider (I'm not open minded to other ideas, I just trust my intuition).

As I pointed out though, my whole life I've been going to the Newry, Maine area (Sunday River) and very familiar with the area in general. Not to mention it is a gold mine (well not that type of mine) of minerals, specifically quartz based minerals like Amethyst and Tourmaline. There is a valley just north of Newry along the NH border that is completely uninhabited. Main reason it is a major watershed for Maine/NH, so only logging is allowed in the area. At least that's what I heard. It is the Grafton Notch area if any of you are familiar with it.

There is also Franklin County which borders Oxford County (Newy is in the northern tip of this county). Franklin County is where William Reich had his laboratory in the Rangeley Lakes region, and he himself witnessed UFOs in the area, and also borders Canada, which you could say is just a comforting feeling. The three areas that I am considering at the moment if you want to assist me in research of the area are these two counties, and Baxter State Park in Maine. This of coarse includes the idea of land ownership which is a tough idea to riddle through, as in may it not matter in times to come, especially in an extremely remote area such as Baxter State Park.

Here are some factors we should consider on potential areas for relocation:
1. Indigenous Myths - Abenaki and Penobscot
2. UFO sightings throughout history, areas of known paranormal activity
3. Geographic Practicality - Rivers/lakes, distance from society, terrain
4. Resource Availability in the region - Minerals, native edibles/animals
5. Your gut intuition

An idea we did express at the meeting about is relocating to a temporary area where one of us do have land already. Ideas of Keene, NH and Rockland, Maine were mentioned. Rockland however is smack dab on the coast. I believe it was NewParadigmGuy who said his family owned 2 acres of unused woods there.

The idea being it may be a staging point for us for times to come as all of us are fairly on board with the ideas that the coasts are not safe in times to come. We would then move into the mountains then on when we feel the time is right.

A point to make about Maine (but technically begins with Cape Cod going up to Nova Scotia), is the relatively large size of the continental shelf, aprox. 250 miles, while the average shelf tends to be 10-20 miles. This makes Maine very safe from the improbable (IMO) event of a tsuamni doing a significant devastation as the tidal wave has time to weaken over the shelf (the shelf is what causes the wave to raise in height as the wave in the ocean is compressed suddenly at the shelf).

Another interesting side note, the Appalachians are the oldest mountain range on the planet. So, Mt. Washington and Mt. Katahdin are the oldest mountains of their significant size on the planet.

Question, does anyone have farm animals by chance because sadly you can't get them in that lovely easily portable seed form?

[NewParadigmGuy]

Originally Posted by GregorArturo

It said though just Maine, and not Northern Maine, which I wanted to make sure of, cause well Maine is an absolutely huge place as we all know.

The context of his sentence is sort of hard to figure out, with the dash, but I read it as the mountains of Maine. Here's what he wrote:

"Yet, in parts of the mountains in states such as NM, CO, UT - Yukon and Maine and Northern Canada life will go on..."

Here are some factors we should consider on potential areas for relocation:
1. Indigenous Myths - Abenaki and Penobscot
2. UFO sightings throughout history, areas of known paranormal activity
3. Geographic Practicality - Rivers/lakes, distance from society, terrain
4. Resource Availability in the region - Minerals, native edibles/animals
5. Your gut intuition

I'd put good cropland at the top of the list. I own 30 acres in Nottingham, NH but the soil is terrible so I have pretty much ruled out trying to homestead there (after trying, with very little success, to grow a variety of plants there). Oddly enough, when I lived in Manchester years ago I had fabulous soil even on the small city lot. I could grow all kinds of stuff with ease there and had a great garden. Soil makes all the difference.

An idea we did express at the meeting about is relocating to a temporary area where one of us do have land already. Ideas of Keene, NH and Rockland, Maine were mentioned. Rockland however is smack dab on the coast. I believe it was NewParadigmGuy who said his family owned 2 acres of unused woods there.

No, it wasn't me, I think it was Dr Tony but I could be mistaken.

[GregorArturo]

Originally Posted by NewParadigmGuy

I'd put good cropland at the top of the list. I own 30 acres in Nottingham, NH but the soil is terrible so I have pretty much ruled out trying to homestead there (after trying, with very little success, to grow a variety of plants there). Oddly enough, when I lived in Manchester years ago I had fabulous soil even on the small city lot. I could grow all kinds of stuff with ease there and had a great garden. Soil makes all the difference.

30 acres is alot of land in my opinion to where there's a chance there may be some usable soil to some extent, just making a note of it. I do wildlife photography and can cover a decent amount of terrain in a day's work, never even close to 30 acres, and the amount of habitat varies to an extreme amount (this would def relate to soil differences). This would be based most on my experience with Maine, but also with out West and Florida. 30 acres, there's some usuable soil somewhere. Water source is a big help and type of flora growing. Land that's been previously cleared could be old in that it was once farmed in the past. Clearing portions of woods could indeed bring some healthy soil. Trees are living in them, and have been dying in them. Just something to think about it NPG.

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I'm down for meeting up this weekend. Sunday sounds good for me. Good place I know and usually go (not as of lately, bars are a bore at the moment) is Slainte on Preble St. I'll be honest and I don't even stray near the Old Port anymore. Horrible vibes there. I tend to stick to the art district.

I'd be more interested in meeting in a coffee shop during the weekday, late afternoon/early evening, if anything.