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Old 09-05-2008, 02:38 PM   #1
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Hello everyone, I am interested in forming an emergency community or group with like minded individuals. This is a good place to exchange ideas and even setup a meeting location in the event things do get bad.

Please remember that this is a public forum and personal information should only be used in outside channels i.e. email, phone, PM.

1. Wait and see how many we are.

2. Discuss here what are the priorities (safe location, food, water, energy, etc) Also, once we have a location to go, we will should report it to the Avalon Communities Map ( http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=549 )

3. Share information on priorities so each can start preparations.

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Old 09-06-2008, 12:20 PM   #2
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Hey David,
Im about an hour outside of Richmond. Feel free to PM me.
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Old 09-06-2008, 06:29 PM   #3
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Welcome galaxygirl. I sent you a PM.
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Old 09-06-2008, 11:10 PM   #4
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Front Royal here... not too far from Richmond. Spent the day cheering myself up with Bill Hicks vids on YouTube...

Shout out to fellow Virginians!!!
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Old 09-08-2008, 01:33 PM   #5
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Front Royal here...
Argh ... where were you when I was trying to establish a New Paradigm Meetup group in Colonial Beach!? (That's a rhetorical question ...)

Ah well - it's good to see so many replies from the area. Y'all have restored my faith in the Commonwealth!

Unfortunately, I'm packing my things for a move back to Tennessee. So I guess you'll just have to count me amongst the former area residents wishing you all the best!
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Old 09-08-2008, 01:49 PM   #6
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Argh ... where were you when I was trying to establish a New Paradigm Meetup group in Colonial Beach!? (That's a rhetorical question ...)

Ah well - it's good to see so many replies from the area. Y'all have restored my faith in the Commonwealth!

Unfortunately, I'm packing my things for a move back to Tennessee. So I guess you'll just have to count me amongst the former area residents wishing you all the best!
Hi R.Z., your always welcome to this thread. Where about in Tennessee are you headed? My wife is from Chattanooga.
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Old 09-08-2008, 03:32 PM   #7
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Thanks David.

It's a good thread you've got going here, with practical information & recommendations!

Water, food & shelter ... in that order. Here's another, offered semi-lightheartedly ...
I heard it said once that, while there is so much emphasis on gold & silver as universal currency - the really valuable commodity, should all hell break loose - will surely be: toilet paper!



The wife & I are headed to my childhood home just outside of Nashville. We both have a fair amount of family & friends there. I expect we'll be spending some time in Chattanooga once our daughter & grandkids move there sometime next year!
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Old 09-06-2008, 11:12 PM   #8
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Hey guys,

I am in North Carolina, few hours from you guys. Lets get something started. There isn't much time left you know.

Please feel free to contact me.

Take care you all.

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Old 09-07-2008, 01:10 AM   #9
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Welcome Fuglybugger & Adarajones! I am so glad to meet like minded people in our area.

Disasters can come in several forms; however, our basic human needs are the same always. With unstable weather conditions, unstable economy, society, and most everything else, it only makes sense to me to have a well-organized disaster ‘kit’ of appropriate size for your own family plus a couple more individuals and your pets. This kit should last you in my opinion for at least 2 weeks until you can stabilize your living situation.

1. My first goal I think for everyone should establish their own emergency kit. After the emergency kit we will need a meeting place in the event of an emergency. This is only a draft so please add comments or ideas.

This 100 item essential list looks a little daunting to me so choose what you think may be appropriate and economically feasible.
http://www.projectavalon.net/100_essential_items.pdf


1750 page do-it-yourself Free Energy manual
http://projectavalon.net/Patrick_Kel...ergy_Guide.pdf

Solar Energy
Solar panels, chargers and accessories. ( not everyone can afford these expensive items so acquire what is vital like water and food if you are unable)
http://www.siliconsolar.com
1) RV Solar Panel Kits- RV-419 (With 12V 7 amp charge controller)
(2) 12 Volt Fluorescent Light 7 Watts
(1) 400 Watt Power Inverter
(2) 12 volt car batteries or preferably deep discharge batteries. If you don't have deep discharge batteries, then you will also need a battery monitor so you will not drain the batteries past 10.2V or else you could damage them.


Survival awareness
http://www.projectavalon.net/us_army...val_manual.pdf


Food
http://www.fema.gov/pdf/library/f&web.pdf
http://www.storablefoods.com/
http://www.efoodsdirect.com
http://www.quakekare.com/

Seeds for gardening
http://www.seedsavers.org

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Old 09-07-2008, 04:04 AM   #10
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First thing is first. Water Filter -- a Doulton or Berkey, etc. Might want to consider a portable as well as a home filter. I have a generator that I'm converting to GEET... a Bedini SSG battery charger, plenty of candles and some canned foods to wait out a storm. If things get too tough at home, my focus is on higher ground away from population centers. I have a few ideas around the SNP, possibly through the Appalachian trail system. I keep a map of the area in my "go bag."

Any thoughts?
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Old 09-07-2008, 07:37 AM   #11
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Hi Virginians! I'm a VA gal myself from SW VA. Living out west now but return often for visits. Have family near Roanoke. Ya'll have at least one friend in Oregon
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Old 09-08-2008, 01:40 PM   #12
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Welcome Providence! Please feel free to add comments or suggestions. Always glad to have another Virginian here.



Fuglybugger, did I miss the most important thing? Water? I have often thought about this I think a portable water filter is an excellent idea. I may try to get one of these filters you mentioned, it would make life a lot easier. If someone is unable to buy one of these filters then you can make one out of containers and charcoal from your fire. Takes more effort for clean water but handy if you don't have a Doulton or Berkey water filter.

1. Rain water or other water supply.
2. Carbon: Burned wood "charcoal" from a fire.
3. If you don't have chlorine then you can boil the water after the filter.






I keep trying to come up with a place to go and I think your absolutely right. The Appalachian trail system is an ideal place to go in an emergency like this.



http://www.nationalgeographic.com/tr...-4-0-appsm.jpg

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Old 09-24-2008, 09:20 PM   #13
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Welcome Providence! Please feel free to add comments or suggestions. Always glad to have another Virginian here.



Fuglybugger, did I miss the most important thing? Water? I have often thought about this I think a portable water filter is an excellent idea. I may try to get one of these filters you mentioned, it would make life a lot easier. If someone is unable to buy one of these filters then you can make one out of containers and charcoal from your fire. Takes more effort for clean water but handy if you don't have a Doulton or Berkey water filter.

1. Rain water or other water supply.
2. Carbon: Burned wood "charcoal" from a fire.
3. If you don't have chlorine then you can boil the water after the filter.






I keep trying to come up with a place to go and I think your absolutely right. The Appalachian trail system is an ideal place to go in an emergency like this.



http://www.nationalgeographic.com/tr...-4-0-appsm.jpg
Hi All,

This construction will work, but it is pretty high tech on the bucket end (plastic, made from petroleum). This type of thing will also work with unglazed clay pots stacked 3 high, holes in the bottoms plugged. There is plenty of clay around almost everything. If you can't get buckets, you can make clay pots of your own and pit-fire them to sufficient hardness to use. Just keep in mind that plastic will crack or develop holes if you're not careful, then what do you do? It can be mended with high heat and more plastic to use as a filler, but clay is almost everywhere.
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Old 09-24-2008, 09:27 PM   #14
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David and others,

I am willing to offer my place as a way-stop if people feel they need to get to the mountains. I am west of Roanoke but not in the highlands. Further info would have to be exchanged by private email, not through this forum.

Any are welcome if they are headed elsewhere. I have only a very small patch of land (1/4 acre) out in the country, and a very tiny house (think hobbit house). Any passing through would have to think in terms of camping on the land (there is a fire pit), and it would be good if you had your own food and drinking water, although I wlll share what I have as best I can. I have only small stores of food and water.

Access to the Appalachian Trail is located near here, but a little further East, from Catawba Mountain.

So... consider this an offer of a stayover at a wayside inn, if you come quietly and respectfully here and can accept the conditions as they exist.

I am searching for my own Radiant Zone, and there may be some potentials around this area, but I do not have enough land to consider it.

namaste!
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Old 09-24-2008, 11:57 PM   #15
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doodah,

That is very kind of you. Traveling in times of crisis can become dangerous and wearying. A friendly way-stop is enough to raise anyone's spirit.

Thank you,

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Old 09-25-2008, 12:53 AM   #16
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That is very kind of you. Traveling in times of crisis can become dangerous and wearying. A friendly way-stop is enough to raise anyone's spirit.

Thank you,

David
My thoughts exactly! Please make note of this somehow, and keep for future reference; don't let it get lost in the shuffle here. As long as I am still here, the offer is good.

Peace to all this troubled planet!
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Old 09-08-2008, 03:52 PM   #17
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Old 09-09-2008, 01:43 PM   #18
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Welcome RubyTuesday.

R.Z., I hope your move goes smoothly and good luck! I know what you mean about currency. Not sure really what to do about that. On one hand, I would like to purchase gold but that does get rather expensive. I may get a couple ounces just in case. I don't smoke but a carton of cigarettes could also be a good bargaining chip.
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Old 09-10-2008, 08:27 PM   #19
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Ok, I just placed an order for my 72 hour emergency kit for 3 people. I already have camping gear and first aid kit so this will just be added to that. I'm now going to get some dried goods to last 2 weeks.

http://beprepared.com/
Order Detail:
Item: IN FM R360 - MAINSTAYT 3,600 Calorie Food Bar - 3
Item: IN WP T150 - KATADYN® MicropurT Purification Tablets (Package of 30) - 1
Item: IN WS B500 - Emergency Essentials Inc. 32 oz Blue Polycarbonate Water Bottle - 3
Item: IN CW W110 - 18+ Hour Hand and Body Warmer - 9
Item: IN CW P110 - PVC Poncho w/ Hood - 3
Item: IN CW B090 - Emergency Bag (reflective) - 3
Item: IN CW B100 - Wool Blend Blanket - 3
Item: IN CW B250 - Space® Brand All Weather Blanket - 3
Item: IN CL M400 - Windproof/Waterproof Matches (1 box) - 3
Item: IN CK S170 - Flat-Fold Stove Combo - 1
Item: IN CK S160 - Heat Cell Fuel (1 can) - 1
Item: IN CL C700 - Clear Mist Emergency Candle 100 Hour - 3
Item: IN CU K162 - Polycarbonate Blue Fork - 3
Item: IN CU K182 - Polycarbonate Blue Spoon - 3
Item: IN CU K172 - Polycarbonate Blue Knife - 3
Item: IN CM W400 - 5-in-1 Survival Whistle - 3
Item: IN CL S107 - LIGHTSTICK 6" Inch White - 8-hour - 9
Item: IN CL F412 - High Uinta GearT Endurance Headlamp - 3
Item: IN CL F280 - Ever-On2 LED Shaker Flashlight - 3
Item: IN CA L011 - SunX SPF 30+ Towelette - 6
Item: IN CA L006 - NoBuzzZone Bug Repellent - 6
Item: IN CA L016 - Katadyn Klean Foaming Hand Sanitizer - 3
Item: IN MF T101 - Iosat Potassium Iodide Tablets - 3
Item: IN WP T200 - Potable Aqua and Neutralizer - 1
Item: IN ZA B100 - 5-Gallon Mylar Water Bag - 3
Item: IN CU R250 - Emergency Rope - 3
Item: IN CU T200 - High Uinta GearT Multi-Function Tool - 3
Item: IN CU G100 - 1 Pair Leather Gloves - 3
Item: IN CU S100 - Tri-Fold Foldable Shovel - 1
Item: IN MK S100 - Sewing Kit - 3
Item: IN CH S600 - Family Sanitation Kit - 1
Item: IN WP S800 - ASAPT Colloidal Silver Solution 8 oz. - 1
Item: IN WS P101 - Mainstay Water Pouches (1 Pouch 4.2 ounce) - 15
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Old 09-11-2008, 02:40 PM   #20
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Update:

I have been talking to Cosmic in the South/North Carolina thread and they are also planning on going to the Appalachian Mountains.

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=384
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Old 09-11-2008, 02:47 PM   #21
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Hello All!

I'm here in Richmond. You can count me in on any discussions and meet ups. I've been slowly accumulating gear as well.
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Old 09-11-2008, 02:53 PM   #22
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Welcome yotta


Glad your here with us. I was starting feel like I was the only one in Richmond here! We don't have a final destination yet but I believe everyone is slowly acquiring gear as well. I'm talking to Cosmic and they are having a meeting tonight but I will not be there. I will PM everyone the details.
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I'm in Charlottesville, so not too far, though I have no automobile to travel outside of town. I imagine there are many others in C-ville ..... so let me know if anyone ele is in the area!

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Old 09-18-2008, 02:03 PM   #24
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Hi everyone. Checking in to see how you are doing.
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Hanging in there, not sure whether to go salmon fishing next week or cut fire wood for the winter. Tough decision.
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