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http://www.prisonplanet.com/we-have-...ower-grab.html
We Have DAYS To Stop the $700 Billion Stick-Up (and Fascist Power Grab) George Washington’s Blog Sunday, Sept 21, 2008 Congress hopes to pass the $700 Billion bailout bill by Friday, according to an article in Bloomberg. In case you haven’t heard, the bill would not only stick up American taxpayers for an additional $700 billion, but would literally give Paulson and the government fascist powers. Don’t believe me? Well, as the Bloomberg article notes: “The bill would bar courts from reviewing actions taken under its authority.” Bloomberg includes the following quotes by people who understand the significance of the bill: It sounds like Paulson is asking to be a financial dictator, for a limited period of time,” said historian John Steele Gordon . . . . *** The Bush administration seeks “dictatorial power unreviewable by the third branch of government, the courts, to try to resolve the crisis,” said Frank Razzano, a former assistant chief trial attorney at the Securities and Exchange Commission now at Pepper Hamilton LLP in Washington. “We are taking a huge leap of faith.” This power grab is so serious that investigative reporter Larisa Alexandrovna calls it “the final stages of the coup“. We have days to stop this bill. March on Congress. Educate and motivate everyone around you. Do everything you can to prevent this disaster before it is too late. |
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So it's daylight robery? and I bet taxpayers are paying the interest too.
Where are the American heros? Nobody willing to step up and blow the whistle? They still have not handed over a cent on the bailouts. German banks transfering money to bankrupt companies ? 300 million euros If Americans dont know how much is in the Federal reserve how can they accept writing off $700BILLION? If the USA is allready bankrupt for TRILLIONS how can they bail out these companies? Should thier debtor nations not be paid first? This is a clever tactical smokescreen to gain more power. Maybe the US people should stand tall and concentrate on getting thier house in order rather than wrecking the remaining free world in the name of DEMON-OCRACY. |
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They're voting to put Al Capone in charge of the vault.
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Looks like the Dem's are trying at least to modify it. Or is that their role - to play the part of lining up to accept side-blame. We shall see.
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Don't count on them for any help, they very much co-conspirators in this criminal con game. There is no help coming until we jerk the entire lot of them out of their beds and recreate the Neuremburg trials for their benefit. Z |
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Democrats Pledge Quick Action on Rescue Legislation
http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/akp5ytcrbhpe That article should tell anyone who had hope via the democrats to stop dreaming. |
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LOL, why would the Dems want to stop this, it plays right into their political agenda.
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here's some more hot air from the National Taxpayers Union
http://www.ntu.org/main/press.php?Pr...6&org_name=NTU For Immediate Release Sep 16, 2008 For Further Information, Contact: Peter J. Sepp, Natasha Altamirano, (703) 683-5700 Amidst Senate Hearings and Stock-Slumps, Taxpayer Group Vows New Fight Against Bailouts for Freddie, Fannie, Others (Alexandria, VA) -- Participants in Senate hearings today have hinted that the bailout of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is a done deal and more may be necessary, but the 362,000-member National Taxpayers Union (NTU) disagrees. The group vowed to wage a grassroots campaign supporting efforts to scale back the Fannie/Freddie bailout and protect taxpayers from further harm. "When Treasury Secretary Paulson fired the self-described bazooka Congress gave him to rescue Fannie and Freddie, his mission seemed to be 'shoot at taxpayers' wallets first and ask questions later,'" said NTU Vice President for Policy & Communications Pete Sepp. "Hopefully now they'll realize that the painful stock-market correction is still less traumatic than the consequences of expanding the government's half-trillion-dollar portfolio of financial bailout liabilities." NTU has long sought reforms that would cut the government's purse strings to Government-Sponsored Enterprises (GSEs) such as Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. In 1989, NTU's then-Chairman warned in testimony before Congress that, "[D]espite dramatic increases in borrowing by GSEs, too little is known about the magnitude of the very real risks underwritten by American taxpayers." Less than two months ago, NTU recommended nine pro-taxpayer prescriptions for mitigating Fannie and Freddie's financial woes in an open letter to Congress. Few of those reforms were enacted into law. For that reason, NTU has launched a new initiative -- centered upon cyber-alerts, talk radio, and Capitol Hill lobbying -- designed to curtail the government's authority to put taxpayers on the hook for this or future bailouts. Specific proposals include: Truth in Budgeting. Unless Fannie and Freddie are privatized, their liabilities should be part of the federal budget, not "off the books." This recommendation from the Congressional Budget Office should be cemented into law. Make it Shorter. Rep. Connie Mack's (R-FL) recent call to "ensure [the bailout] is temporary and short" deserves support; Congress should pressure the Treasury to shrink Fannie and Freddie more quickly than the 10-year period Paulson envisions. Rep. Scott Garrett's (R-NJ) bill to encourage a "covered bond" market will help private institutions stabilize and streamline mortgage financing. This in turn can aid an economic recovery. Stop the Slush Fund. Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) has urged Federal Housing Finance Agency Director Jim Lockhart to suspend GSE financing for the "Housing Trust Fund," a political giveaway to left-leaning housing activists. Don't Go Backward. Congress should reject "go-soft" proposals such as a 90-day moratorium on GSE foreclosures that would raise the burden on taxpayers. "Lehman Brothers aside, the government's actions toward Bear Stearns, Fannie and Freddie, and now handout requests from Detroit automakers could signal an ominous new trend of meddling in markets," Sepp concluded. "Politicians have been digging taxpayers deeper into the fiscal hole, and we have to take their shovels away before we're all buried for good." NTU is a nonprofit, nonpartisan citizen group founded in 1969 to work for lower taxes, less wasteful spending, and accountable government at all levels. Note: More information on NTU's work in the area of GSE policy is available at www.ntu.org. |
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At least I can agree with them on principle. What else can I say?
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I know how you feel. Sometimes I just want to bang my head agaist the wall cuase I think i'm the only one seeing what's going down.
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I'll start with a solid brick wall and Henry Paulson
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I strongly encourage everyone to email, fax, and call the offices of your congressmen and let them know your opposition to this fleecing of America.
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Dont let them put that debt on our heads.
King leer, may i repost that cartoon on other forums to spread the message? |
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Looks like it could be too late already .......
Deal reached on $700B bailout Justin Hyde Detroit Free Press September 25, 2008 Congressional leaders from both political parties said today they had agreed to the outlines of a proposed $700 billion bailout of U.S. financial markets, with limits on executive pay and help for homeowners in distress. The agreement came a few hours ahead of a meeting called by President George W. Bush with House and Senate leaders, along with presidential candidates John McCain and Barack Obama this afternoon. Lawmakers said many of the final details were still being hammered out, and that the deal still needed input from the Bush administration, but that the map for the largest government move in the U.S. financial system since the Great Depression had been drawn. “We are prepared to act expeditiously on a plan with our colleagues that will allow us to send a very strong message to the markets,” said Sen. Christopher Dodd, D-Conn. The Dow Jones Industrial average was up about 240 points after the deal was announced. Sen. Bob Bennett, R-Utah, said lawmakers had a deal “that will pass the House, pass the Senate, be signed by the Senate and bring a sense of certainty to the markets.” http://www.infowars.com/?p=4855 |
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I feel sorry, but I have the idea that here are more intelligent economists than in your gouvernment.
In my humble view this crisis is a structural one. We live already longtime in a "baken air economy" based on progressive debts. There is lying the problem. I do'nt know how to say it correctly, but it's like "throwing a sprat to catch a mackerel". In my humble opinion this crisis will evolve to a deeper one than in 1930. And looking into history such a deep crisis always ends in war. It ends in a war , because America never will accept to play "a second violin" in the world. |
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Your economy is based on concepts rather than production. Bubbles of inflation and deflation.
In the view of those who benefit, it is pretty well organized, disguised as it is as a free market economy. Its a one way road at the end of which there is a pit that collects the energy. And all banking avenues connect to that road. The problem is this: So long as the average Joe believes he can manipulate the system to his advantage, seeing the high potential for gains, he will be all for it, until of course he realizes that somebody else got to the string fist. Then of course, he will praise that somebody else as being a sharp person and admire him, until he realizes his pockets are empty and he can't use the strings, because the strings are moving his arms. Then he will either get mad or fall prey to despair. Greed is not exclusive to the elite. They just got there first. It goes like this. The poor want the rich to pay for them, and if they win at the lottery, they don't want to pay for the poor. The ego is a vampire. |
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