Trouble makers on Avalon

[chelmostef]

This forum is truely great, its a privilege to be able share thoughts with such enlightened people.

I do think that there are certain members who are here not to create peace but to divide and cause conflick in the one place that should not be like that.
So I thought It would be good to write down such indivduals who are not here to bring people together but divide and cause conflict.
If said member are causeing confilct with many then we will all know because their mames will be on here

My nomination goes to... Drum Roll....

King lear

[Phtha]

heh... when I seen the title of this thread the first name that popped into my mind was King Lear. Coincidence? I think not.

The few posts I have come across of his/hers do always seemed callous of nature, but I get the feeling the main intent was meant in a humorous context, but fail in that, most times... as they border on insulting.
Hope that makes sense.

[rustanddust]

settle down

[arcora]

Look in the mirror.

[rustanddust]

harsh!

[THE eXchanger]

if you are going to play cards...
do NOT play with an ace

instead come to my house,
and, be sure to bring your full deck

just in case, this "card" is missing any !!!

we are the eXchangers !!!

white lotus star

[Soul Sequence]

Originally Posted by chelmostef

This forum is truely great, its a privilege to be able share thoughts with such enlightened people.

I do think that there are certain members who are here not to create peace but to divide and cause conflick in the one place that should not be like that.
So I thought It would be good to write down such indivduals who are not here to bring people together but divide and cause conflict.
If said member are causeing confilct with many then we will all know because their mames will be on here

My nomination goes to... Drum Roll....

There will always be people that cross our path that view things in a different way, but we are all unique and that's what makes us special. Its our own individual input that makes this journey a little more rewarding. The choice is ultimately ours to decide what "points of view" we shall take into our "mix up" and what we choose to disregard. But....all points are no less valid.
Remember, IMO, you are in control of your own feelings and emotions, you have the ultimate power. By creating this thread, again IMO, you are doing two things.......
1. Allowing someone else to control your feelings and emotions.
and
2. Contradicting yourself with your own statement.....by creating this thread, are you not "dividing" us and putting us into categories.

You, of course, have every right to choose your own path as do we are and my opinion is no better or worse than yours, it just may be different. Regardless on any of our differences here, we should always at least listen...........you never know where all those pieces of the puzzle will come from. A person can be wrong 99 times out of 100 to what we believe but its that one thing that they end up figuring out or sharing that can bring upon the change we desire.

Regards and Blessings,
Soul Sequence

[clarkkent]

making a thread about "troublemakers" is sure to cause more trouble. ironic yes?

[2infinityandbeyond]

Originally Posted by clarkkent

making a thread about "troublemakers" is sure to cause more trouble. ironic yes?

People who are causing a bit of friction with others may not realise it.

I think this thread might have some value to give people a chance to see how others view them. This is a community after all and its much easier when everyone makes an effort to get along.

Ive no one to nominate .. yet

Originally Posted by clarkkent

making a thread about "troublemakers" is sure to cause more trouble. ironic yes?

I think clarkkent has hit the nail squarely on the head there!

Rather than cause ill feeling by branding someone, who's 1st language may NOT be english, a trouble maker, how about changing it to:

• Most helpful member on Avalon

Would you like me to change the thread title for you? Or would you prefer to do it yourself..?

[jaby]

Originally Posted by musado

Would you like me to change the thread title for you? Or would you prefer to do it yourself..?

A little presumptious of you there....don'tcha think.?
Your idea could create a kind of elitism. Hierarchy.
Not healthy.

I think talking gererally about the 'thought police' methods
etc.....is interesting and liberating. Naming people though could
be problematic.

They will just disappear, anyway, and come back with a different
user name.....

[LOCOAZ2008]

Originally Posted by musado

I think clarkkent has hit the nail squarely on the head there!

Rather than cause ill feeling by branding someone, who's 1st language may NOT be english, a trouble maker, how about changing it to:

• Most helpful member on Avalon

Would you like me to change the thread title for you? Or would you prefer to do it yourself..?

translate this...

tu afirmacion es un poco tonta ya que acaso te refieres a personas como yo que hablamos y escribimos en español????. u otro idioma que no sea ingles???. eso sabes como se llama, racismo linguistico.

WE ALL HAVE LIBERTY OF SPEECH IN OUR LANGUAGE OR NOT MR.MUSADO

SORRY FOR MY GRAMMAR

Originally Posted by LOCOAZ2008

translate this...

tu afirmacion es un poco tonta ya que acaso te refieres a personas como yo que hablamos y escribimos en español????. u otro idioma que no sea ingles???. eso sabes como se llama, racismo linguistico.

I'm not being a linguistic racist at all LOCOAZ2008, you misunderstood my post

Let me explain. When I stated the some members 1st language may not be english I meant that as it was not their native language, the posters sense of humour and phrasing may not come across the way the poster intended it to, and therefore it may be mi-construed.

Does that clarify things..?

[motov]

you got to have one hell of a case to put forth such accusation.....

"If we don't believe in freedom of expression for
people we despise, we don't believe in it at all."
-Noam Chomsky

[Theresa]

What works for me, after a long time of letting myself be afronted by unconscious people, is to simply ignore a vibration that is not in alignment with the highest truth I have access to, and support and acknowledge that which does.

Just listen to your heart, and "tune out" whatever doesn't jibe. If we react, we feed it. It ain't no thang...it has no power over us if we don't react. Just keep focused on that which brings you joy, upliftment, higher truth.....

[LOCOAZ2008]

Originally Posted by musado

I'm not being a linguistic racist at all LOCOAZ2008, you misunderstood my post

Let me explain. When I stated the some members 1st language may not be english I meant that as it was not their native language, the posters sense of humour and phrasing may not come across the way the poster intended it to, and therefore it may be mi-construed.

Does that clarify things..?

YES OK that'S clarify things...

PEACE

[Nik]

*sound of a whip*

[milk and honey]

For the life of me i can't see what King Lear's name is doing on a trouble makers list. I suggest you nip this in the bud, apologise to King Lear and then delete it.

No doubt there are fake posters on this board as there are everywhere else. If you ask me they will define themselves more by continual and exaggerated fawning and back slapping of those views and posts which are most dis-informational. This is how credibility is built for ideas that deserve it the least. Exaggerated and continual flattery is the common currency. This kind of M.O. is a much safer place to hide than the abrasive challenge of critical thinking..

Not saying that i consider every that compliment is a spook but that the insincere come wearing all kinds of masks. It shouldn't be assumed that dissent is poisoning the 'church'.

[gazbom]

Originally Posted by milk and honey

For the life of me i can't see what King Lear's name is doing on a trouble makers list. I suggest you nip this in the bud, apologise to King Lear and then delete it.

No doubt there are fake posters on this board as there are everywhere else. If you ask me they will define themselves more by continual and exaggerated fawning and back slapping of those views and posts which are most dis-informational. This is how credibility is built for ideas that deserve it the least. Exaggerated and continual flattery is the common currency. This kind of M.O. is a much safer place to hide than the abrasive challenge of critical thinking..

Not saying that i consider every that compliment is a spook but that the insincere come wearing all kinds of masks. It shouldn't be assumed that dissent is poisoning the 'church'.

I totaly agree!

[Zenbuoy]

Originally Posted by clarkkent

making a thread about "troublemakers" is sure to cause more trouble. ironic yes?

Certainly. They have illumi non accountabili, a thinking virus causing self avitar importance.

It is brilliant to be able to "Ignore" ego deposits without accountability, silently allowing our fellow souls anonymous therapy.

...Hmmmmmmm...I found this thread to be a fascinating exchange of energy.

I was drawn to the "trouble", and wondered, "certainly NOT!...not HERE!" Of course, I was introduced to the persona "King Lear", at the outset, and although it possibly could have waited several lifetimes...my intent suddenly included researching this person. Always the responsible researcher, I stayed the course, and integrated everything others who were drawn to this thread, had to say. Ultimately, King Lear himself, stood up to this accusation. I found his argument flawless, and infinitely respectful. To their credit, the owner of the feelings which were perhaps stretched by King Lear, in (an)other thread(s), acquiesced...and they admitted to the possibility that King Lear was perhaps just bitingly critical...and not necessarily prejudiced.

This thread was a beautiful economy of effort. Within these posts, the foundations of of Avalon, at least in my expectations, is revealed. Truth is ultimately self-evident...and its discovery requires that those who search for it, not only remain unbiased in their judgment, but that they also release their "identity". King Lear, and his accuser, each appear to have "lost" a bit of their "identities". The accuser loses a tendency to personalize "cynical criticism" (this phrase is the best I can do with my research, so far), and King Lear loses one member of a nebulous group he has admitted bias towards (ufo people, and others). A relationship has been constructed...and for better or worse, it will yield its influence on the future. I see nothing but respect for learning, on the part of both...and I suspect that King or chattel, this relationship will not be immediately dismissed.

There are many others who have been compelled to read this post, and it is my hope that they did not miss this central drama. There is not a luxury of time to run away, and come back later to see if things "fit". I am proud of both of you...for, at the very least, revealing to me spirits distinguishable from the crowd.

j

[Lance]

I'm sure with my CV I'll be listed on a thread like this after not too long.
I'm not PC, call things how I see them and use my wide array of contacts to assess things different than how they may seem. I tend to get people riled up (already have) because most people don't take the time to actually read what is stated and half way through their reading they are formulating a response (instead of reading) to what they think they are reading in their heads losing the nuances of the text.

I'm not saying this is or has been happening...but I've seen it happen many a time.

[Kate]

There is nothing wrong with 'doubt' free speech, difference of opinions or heated debate!! it is essential for a balanced forum.... my only 2 words i add to that is TOLERANCE and RESPECT of others opinions and independent research/experiences.

we are ALL here to learn!

[Norval]

What many fail, or ignore. to recognize are the very bad ET's that are posting in these forums. Their agenda is plainly stated in our bibles. The tactics they use are also clearly stated in the bible. Learn about this and you too will be able to "recognize" them by their methods of posting.

Until this is recognized, researched, and accepted by the forum owners and moderators it will be a free for all of lies, twisting of words, slander, insults, and feigned "love".

People, wake up, IF they, the bad ET's (fallen angels) are here on earth, then "they" are in these very forums.

Look at your keyboards! they are made for six fingered hands.

[King Lear]

Originally Posted by Norval

What many fail, or ignore. to recognize are the very bad ET's that are posting in these forums. Their agenda is plainly stated in our bibles. The tactics they use are also clearly stated in the bible. Learn about this and you too will be able to "recognize" them by their methods of posting.

Until this is recognized, researched, and accepted by the forum owners and moderators it will be a free for all of lies, twisting of words, slander, insults, and feigned "love".

People, wake up, IF they, the bad ET's (fallen angels) are here on earth, then "they" are in these very forums.

Look at your keyboards! they are made for six fingered hands.

Yes, but what if they are incapable of this and only use the 2-finger-system?
So we won't unmask them here anyways!