Best preperation: Get out of "survivor mode"

[Sanat]

There is no better preperation than that. Survivor mode is based on fear. Fear about what "might happen", and fear about "the future". This fear will block your inner peace and clarity. It will block your ability to relax and actually percieve "what is going on". Security does not come from having a bunker under your house etc. It comes from trust. Trust that you are were you are supposed to be and that you and all your loved ones will die when their time is up. No sooner and no later. You cannot escape death when your time is up no matter what. Existance knows what it's doing In fact, it is the only one who really knows...the rest of us must learn to trust it and enjoy the ride!

The name of the game is not "survival" as Socrates mentions in his famous Apology. It is doing what FEELS right and avoid doing what FEELS wrong. If you do not feel a strong inner urge to relocate you can trust that you are were you are supposed to be. Trust in Existance and not in all sorts of "outside sources" and "dire predictions".

[Carrie Todd]

I think you make some really good points. Ultimately, you're right. Just because you prepare for a disaster doesn't necessarily mean that you'll avert one. On the other hand, I also don't intend to be a sitting duck either. I think information is important and that people need to make educated decisions based on what's right for them and their's. I know that'll I'll have more inner peace, regardless of the outcome, if I know I've done evertything in my power to protect my family. That said, the spirit is eternal and this is but one stopping place in our infinite existences.

[Jenny]

This is a point I was going to make here.
You beat me to it.

Thanks!

I want to make just one more remark;

Feeling is a very very underdeveloped faculty in human beings.
Thinking is very very OVERdeveloped in human beings.

This imbalance causes all this fear.

Developing the ability to feel really well is what this shift is all about.
Developing the heart.

Breath and stay with the emotion of fear untill it vaporizes into thin air. What you find beneath the fear and the enotion is what is really in your heart.
THen you will know what to do.

Doing , going into the modus of action and doing before you find what is in your heart is fear based and it will get you nowhere.

Zjenny

[Carrie Todd]

That, too, is a good point. Often, being in survivor mode is what causes people to go into an "every man for himself" mentality. I think that is part of what this forum is trying to avoid.

[clayman]

THANK YOU! Somebody that's figured it out I salute you sir! =)

[Sanat]

Originally Posted by Zjenny

This is a point I was going to make here.
You beat me to it.

Thanks!

I want to make just one more remark;

Feeling is a very very underdeveloped faculty in human beings.
Thinking is very very OVERdeveloped in human beings.

This imbalance causes all this fear.

Developing the ability to feel really well is what this shift is all about.
Developing the heart.

Breath and stay with the emotion of fear untill it vaporizes into thin air. What you find beneath the fear and the enotion is what is really in your heart.
THen you will know what to do.

Doing , going into the modus of action and doing before you find what is in your heart is fear based and it will get you nowhere.

Zjenny

Yes, that one deserves to be repeated! Have things in the right order and all is OK. You really don't want to be stuck in your bunker like some lost japanese soldier from WWII while the rest of the world is celebrating with our ET brothers and sisters. Hehe!

[Jenny]

Yes...grinn

[Oneness]

Your words couldn't have rang any clearer Sanat.


Namaste

Originally Posted by Sanat

You really don't want to be stuck in your bunker like some lost japanese soldier from WWII while the rest of the world is celebrating with our ET brothers and sisters. Hehe!

Well I will take my bunker any day against being invited 'to dinner' by some aliens that are eying you as main course

[Xmen442002]

Originally Posted by zorgon

Well I will take my bunker any day against being invited 'to dinner' by some aliens that are eying you as main course

If they wanted us they would have already taken us. it is better that they work covertly instead of overtly. Humans have no regard for life and they know this

Xmen

[Carrie Todd]

I truly believe that some can feel a sense of happiness and peace through any circumstance. I agree with what, I believe, is the essence of what Sanat is saying there. I also believe that there are many things to be aware of. Even local problems can be very big problems, as evidenced by the LA riots following the Rodney King situation.

For whatever reason, be it intuition or just a feeling of responsibility for my family and my fellow (less prepared) mankind, I PLAN to be prepared. This will help me to stay calm and serene if things do go wrong. I don't have a bunker or major food storage, but I have been educating myself on some of the basic aspects of how to survive with what I have available. I also live in the "boonies" and having enough food to make it through a good ice storm has become a normal part of my winters. There are only two ways to be wrong in this, over or under estimation of effort. That is an individual determination, and time, our decisions, and circumstances will tell.

Like Gnosis, I also believe that spiritual preparation is always (don't mean to put words in your mouth) more important than physical. I think that is the case regardless of what life will bring us. This physical existence is temporary for all of us. The spiritual is eternal.

[Steven]

Balance in all things. If one makes the change/preparation to live according to the New Paradigm for planet Earth and Hu-manity, one needs to listen to the intelligence of the Heart. It is not stagnancy, it is Wisdom. This Wisdom will instruct you what to do, when to do.

Here is a small real example that happened in Asia: http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=3413

Sanat, I understand your post and you surely do not mean not to prepare. Thank you for this marvelous post.

Namaste, Steven

[Steven]

Originally Posted by Jenny

...Feeling is a very very underdeveloped faculty in human beings.
Thinking is very very OVERdeveloped in human beings.

This imbalance causes all this fear.

Developing the ability to feel really well is what this shift is all about.
Developing the heart.

Zjenny

Wise words Jenny, I totally agree.

Intellect over working is causing all this noise inside of most people. Add to it a deep but steady feeling of calming down and listening the inside calling and we get what we call "Stress". As long as one do not calm down his mind and master his thoughts, it will be hard to listen the voice that dwells in one's Heart.

Of course, it is non-sens for one who is far away form his Heart and use exclusively his brain.

Namaste, Steven

[whitecrow]

Originally Posted by Jenny

Feeling is a very very underdeveloped faculty in human beings.
Thinking is very very OVERdeveloped in human beings.

Talk about different perspectives on things...I'd say just the opposite. People seem to me to be all about how they "feel" about things. There are exceptions, but much of the time this is unproductive, shallow and selfish.

For the most part it looks to me like thinking is a lost art. Thinking involves logic (another lost art), analysis, connecting dots in new ways. It takes effort. I just don't see much of it.

[DVP14]

I agree I agree!!! Sanat! Excellent point

[atom.Man]

Originally Posted by Sanat

There is no better preperation than that. Survivor mode is based on fear...

that's a blanket statement. Many are in some level of survival mode because they choose to be prepared, not because they fear the future. I look forward to it regardless of what it may hold because it's an adventure, a challenge.

Security does not come from having a bunker under your house etc. It comes from trust. Trust that you are were you are supposed to be ...

sounds like something Rice or Chertoff might say -- advice which i'd rather not subscribe to. Change doesn't come by doing nothing.

if someone is going to hit me in the head with a hammer, i'll take evasive action and not get hit rather than accepting my "destiny" and bleed.

[BJ ∞ Trust Yourself]

Namaste All~

Sanat,
THANK YOU! YES YES YES!

Everyone has a great energy to share! Listen to the deeper message in each one. I Enjoy them quite immensely actually! lol

"Trust Yourself"

We must trust ourselves first and FOREMOST!

Thank you atom.Man for the reminder that we ALL have choice in this and that no one's is ANY BETTER than any other. Yes, you have your unique and precious adventure you wish for. We all have one of our own. We all are in this adventure together anyway. Keep that in Mind if you would enjoy, because we are One freakin' awesome, beautiful, compassionate, loving species and wrapped in Consciousness. And there is an actual science to it all now to prove to our Egos, there exists in measurement, IN FACT an Ego-Mind vibration and Higher-Mind vibration (www.ctpenergy.com and many others giving different viewpoints to the same game). There is much more to the bigger picture and its nothing BUT EXCITING!

Looking at conspiracy stuff accelerates the energy in me about the future picture we have ready to go NOW for all humanity. Compassion will help ease the changes required to accept the New Human.

Is this not the most exciting times of our lives???

~~~ALL INCLUSIVE ~my new moto~ ALL INCLUSIVE~~~

[Seva]

Originally Posted by atom.Man

that's a blanket statement. Many are in some level of survival mode because they choose to be prepared, not because they fear the future. I look forward to it regardless of what it may hold because it's an adventure, a challenge.



sounds like something Rice or Chertoff might say -- advice which i'd rather not subscribe to. Change doesn't come by doing nothing.

if someone is going to hit me in the head with a hammer, i'll take evasive action and not get hit rather than accepting my "destiny" and bleed.

I agree with you totaly atom.man, i think some are confusing a calm preparation, which is logical with the mad max - "lord of the flies" senario some who are labled "survalists" speak of. which they usualy sound like they are looking forward to that level of chaos with a element of glee. So that has giiven many a impression when those things are mentioned, is relation to real changes that need to be adapted to.

to break it down.

Definitions of survival: as per online dictionaries

1. a state of surviving; remaining alive
2. a natural process resulting in the evolution of organisms best adapted to the environment
3. something that survives

now this is not a problem when one remains in "harmony"

Please consider this when the squirel, is aware that winter is comming, and stores nuts in a tree. Is that fear or instinctual intelligence and harmony with nature (the current enviornment).

If you see a train comming at you down the tracks slowly do you continue to stand on them? If you turn your back to the train and think if i dont look at it its not there, i dont think that will alwasys work. You calmly step off the track. This is also the process of remaining alive, "survival".

If it is not in hysterical panic then planning for survival is a aspect of intelligence. Dont you think. We all know earth is changing and we must change. Simple clear reality, fact is fact. How you chose to "lable" this either with direct fear or the indirect fear of denial or purposeful lack of action.

I go shopping at the store weekly to get food, becasue if i dont what will i eat? Is the act of me going to the market survivalism? I am in action ofr my survival, i am a thing that survives due to this action.

Yes.. I do these things to remain alive, since food with not just apear on my table. POOF magic, we do not hate that level of manifestation YET I must apply action and forsight. Calmly and in harmony. AND I survive.

We all need to realize, what is going on, not to freak out, but to realize things will change, all is flux, its the nature of things. For the organisms our souls are inhabilting it this time to be HERE, NOW. We need to care for the organism, our spirits are in. Otherwise i think we would have chose a easier way lol And yes it is a adventure aswell. We know this, and it is why we here here now. To resonate this frequency at this moment if nothing else.

a lyric comes to mind

It's coming down, it's coming down, it's coming down
These clouds could never hope to save us
From such a juggernaut of weight

The sky is falling
And no one will lift their eyes to see
The sky is falling
And no one will care as long as it lands overseas

I want to be strong enough,
To not let my fears decide my fate
Surrounded by jingoists;
I don't want any part of this

I want to be strong enough,
To not let my terror turn to hate
Surrounded by jingoists;
I don't want any part of this

Energy is energy, its how we lable and deal with it, ignoring it wont make it go away. I see it as this, yes change will come and yes i know to rebuild a thing what stands there must fall, and i do cringes from thoughts of a chaos period, but i hold my thoughts on the rebirth. I am here for love. Love suffers all things LOL

So what is there to make this easy, to make it smooth? How can we make the pieces of what we have to give and share fit togther? Combign the light we shine?

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

Originally Posted by Seva

I agree with you totaly atom.man, i think some are confusing a calm preparation, which is logical with the mad max - "lord of the flies" senario some who are labled "survalists" speak of. which they usualy sound like they are looking forward to that level of chaos with a element of glee. So that has giiven many a impression when those things are mentioned, is relation to real changes that need to be adapted to.

to break it down.

Definitions of survival: as per online dictionaries

1. a state of surviving; remaining alive
2. a natural process resulting in the evolution of organisms best adapted to the environment
3. something that survives

now this is not a problem when one remains in "harmony"

Please consider this when the squirel, is aware that winter is comming, and stores nuts in a tree. Is that fear or instinctual intelligence and harmony with nature (the current enviornment).

If you see a train comming at you down the tracks slowly do you continue to stand on them? If you turn your back to the train and think if i dont look at it its not there, i dont think that will alwasys work. You calmly step off the track. This is also the process of remaining alive, "survival".

If it is not in hysterical panic then planning for survival is a aspect of intelligence. Dont you think. We all know earth is changing and we must change. Simple clear reality, fact is fact. How you chose to "lable" this either with direct fear or the indirect fear of denial or purposeful lack of action.

I go shopping at the store weekly to get food, becasue if i dont what will i eat? Is the act of me going to the market survivalism? I am in action ofr my survival, i am a thing that survives due to this action.

Yes.. I do these things to remain alive, since food with not just apear on my table. POOF magic, we do not hate that level of manifestation YET I must apply action and forsight. Calmly and in harmony. AND I survive.

We all need to realize, what is going on, not to freak out, but to realize things will change, all is flux, its the nature of things. For the organisms our souls are inhabilting it this time to be HERE, NOW. We need to care for the organism, our spirits are in. Otherwise i think we would have chose a easier way lol And yes it is a adventure aswell. We know this, and it is why we here here now. To resonate this frequency at this moment if nothing else.

a lyric comes to mind

It's coming down, it's coming down, it's coming down
These clouds could never hope to save us
From such a juggernaut of weight

The sky is falling
And no one will lift their eyes to see
The sky is falling
And no one will care as long as it lands overseas

I want to be strong enough,
To not let my fears decide my fate
Surrounded by jingoists;
I don't want any part of this

I want to be strong enough,
To not let my terror turn to hate
Surrounded by jingoists;
I don't want any part of this

Energy is energy, its how we lable and deal with it, ignoring it wont make it go away. I see it as this, yes change will come and yes i know to rebuild a thing what stands there must fall, and i do cringes from thoughts of a chaos period, but i hold my thoughts on the rebirth. I am here for love. Love suffers all things LOL

So what is there to make this easy, to make it smooth? How can we make the pieces of what we have to give and share fit togther? Combign the light we shine?

agreed

[Orion11]

Great post Sanat!
soo true.

alot of ppl here could use this post i think.
Thanks
Blessings

[Anchor]

I mostly agree with Sanat's post.

I think there are some common-sense things that everyone can do with will mitigate any urban inconveniences that arise.

I dont see that having a 72hrs emergency kit and some bug-out bags ready is really fear based survivor mode. Nor is having a few extra bottles of drinking water in a cupboard.

Where I think it goes over the top is when people get into stockpiling guns, ammo, masses of long term food etc and are ready to surive a nuclear winter and over a year without food!

Make your preperations: Learn how to purify water, get a fire extinguisher, get some first aid training and supplies - then put it all away and go quietly about your ground crew duties.

A..

PS: I wrote up some of the basics here http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1859

[Seva]

Originally Posted by Anchor

I mostly agree with Sanat's post.

I think there are some common-sense things that everyone can do with will mitigate any urban inconveniences that arise.

I dont see that having a 72hrs emergency kit and some bug-out bags ready is really fear based survivor mode. Nor is having a few extra bottles of drinking water in a cupboard.

Where I think it goes over the top is when people get into stockpiling guns, ammo, masses of long term food etc and are ready to surive a nuclear winter and over a year without food!

Make your preperations: Learn how to purify water, get a fire extinguisher, get some first aid training and supplies - then put it all away and go quietly about your ground crew duties.

A..

PS: I wrote up some of the basics here http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1859

Yep so maybe we can all post links of good sources and info we have found?

[BJ ∞ Trust Yourself]

*chants* resources... resources... resources...

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

Originally Posted by atom.Man

that's a blanket statement. Many are in some level of survival mode because they choose to be prepared, not because they fear the future. I look forward to it regardless of what it may hold because it's an adventure, a challenge.



sounds like something Rice or Chertoff might say -- advice which i'd rather not subscribe to. Change doesn't come by doing nothing.

if someone is going to hit me in the head with a hammer, i'll take evasive action and not get hit rather than accepting my "destiny" and bleed.

correct!! im moving into survivor mode now, my definition of this is to get myself prepared for what i think is on the way. when i have done this i will try to help others who want or ask for help as best i can. i have no fear. being a sitting duck is not my idea of how to go about it. universal freewill prevails people will do what they feel is right. most peoples version of survival mode is everyman for himself, that is those still trapped in the matrix watching tv shows and eating poisoned food and jogging outside in the thick smog of chemtrails.

i am well off the grid and i plan to not join it. the spiritual aspect is indeed the strong part of all this. im not going to be hurded into government citys and i wont be chipped ect. otheres who are jsut gonna sit and pray thats up to them. good luck

[Sanat]

Originally Posted by atom.Man

that's a blanket statement. Many are in some level of survival mode because they choose to be prepared, not because they fear the future. I look forward to it regardless of what it may hold because it's an adventure, a challenge.



sounds like something Rice or Chertoff might say -- advice which i'd rather not subscribe to. Change doesn't come by doing nothing.

if someone is going to hit me in the head with a hammer, i'll take evasive action and not get hit rather than accepting my "destiny" and bleed.

If it is not fearbased it is not what I mean by "survivor mode". I myself feel no inner urge to make "survivor" preperations at all. I am more in "celebration mode" hehe! The way I see it humanity has transcended the "dire predictions" scenario a while ago. Now things will play out as they must...

However, I am just me in this time/place. I am certainly not saying that if you (meaning anyone) really feel inner urges to prepare etc. that you should not do so. By all means! My main point was/is that fear is the worst enemy, and it can easily take over too much of ones life and blind people to what is really on the horizon. A question to ask oneself:

Would I feel any urge to prepare had I not read all sorts of "dire predictions" on the internet etc.? In other words...are the urges coming from your clarity/heart/source-connection, or from the easily influenced and conditioned ego/mind?

This being said it is always good to be prepared for the worst and hope for the best right?