Removal of Dr. Deagle from Camelot website after Cliff High expose' of Bill Ryan

[TOKYO ROSE]

few friends forwarded to me the awesome expose' of Dr Deagle by Cliff High of Half Past Human. After reading this incredible expose' 4 times and wondering why no one posted it on the our forum, I decided to post it myself:

http://halfpasthuman.com/
An open letter to the woo-jo, and Bill Ryan of Project Camelot.
http://halfpasthuman.com/openletter.html

I am looking forward to Bill Ryan's reply to these shocking allegations.

AND!!!
Before we remove Dr Deagle completely from the Project Camelot website (as we did with Leo Zagami): HOW ABOUT BILL RYAN CALLING CLIFF ON THE PHONE TODAY, AND POSTING THEIR AUDIO CONVERSATION ON OUR PROJECT CAMELOT WEBSITE TODAY?

PS;
without censorship,
without 'auditing',
we need the WHOLE conversation.

PS2;
how about a threesome conversation, Cliff High+Ryan+Deagle?


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[derpif]

Hi,
it is posted here
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=18277

[Scarab]

So many 'whistleblowers' with conflicting stories and something to sell. Deagle's the first casualty as they eliminate some of the conflict that casts doubt on all their stories.

IMO

[burgundia]

I wonder who will be the next one taken off of the list of the reliable whistleblowers? And I wonder how many will remain....

[Scarab]

Originally Posted by burgundia

I wonder who will be the next one taken off of the list of the reliable whistleblowers? And I wonder how many will remain....

It's called consolidation. Happens after any new product becomes popular. Profit can be made, many players enter the market, then the market eliminates the weak.

[Anchor]

Originally Posted by burgundia

I wonder who will be the next one taken off of the list of the reliable whistleblowers? And I wonder how many will remain....

In my opinion, the list of "reliable" whistleblowers is empty awaiting the first addition.

The value of the testimony that you hear under the "whistleblower" unbrella is that it offers perspectives and potential opportunity for greater insight into the mechanics of the world we live in.

This is in my opinion of immense value as it can catalyse new ways of thinking; however, it is very much open to manipulation and games (and not always on purpose by the people giving the information).

Your job is to distil out that which is true from that which isnt.

This forum is an excellent place to interact and do this process together.

The day a reliable whistleblower actually gets to speak is the day the game is up!

A..

[Fredkc]

Silly me.

1. I thought this was Bill & Kerry's place.
Because of that I tend to think what is on their site, and why, is up to them.

2. The last I heard, Cliff High already has a place where he can tell everyone what he thinks, all day long.

3. There are things on here I have no interest in. There are things on this site, I began reading, and simply don't believe. What I do is, I don't read them. Tricky, I know.

I don't think what becomes of them is either my call, and certainly not Cliff High's. I do however, appreciate B&K paying me the compliment of letting me decide that. I, in turn, pay them a similar one by letting them decide what's here.

4. Finally there is the drama of it all. Here I find that it is amazing how many things are cleared up, after a proper period of "benign neglect".

I'm done,

Fred

[THE eXchanger]

everyone likely has a different piece of the truth

otherwise, why would all of us be here ???

(let's face it, who is 100% perfect)

the sooner, everyone gets on ONE side,
and, pushes in the same direction

instead - playing 'fighting games' for 'ratings'

and, wasting very valuable time

We might just all consider, joining our hands/and
our highest minds/and, highest hearts
and, bring out solutions and, soul-utions
we might just shift, the whole planet
in a full and, a rich way

There surely is some truth/actually lots of truth

we are our own worst enemies !!!

[DawnJah]

Well said....move forward as one power....SOURCE POWER....which is light....start eating LIVE FOODS so the Photon energy can spin and turn on your cells....just like it does when it turns on the Photons in the Aurora Borealis.......

[Scarab]

Originally Posted by eXchanger

everyone likely has a different piece of the truth

Then why are there so many contradictions?

I'm always suspicious of someone who has something to sell. 'Disclosure' has become an industry. People who don't know paying money to people who say they know.

[THE eXchanger]

Originally Posted by Scarab

Then why are there so many contradictions?

I'm always suspicious of someone who has something to sell. 'Disclosure' has become an industry. People who don't know paying money to people who say they know.

because a belief, is NOT always a 'real' truth

[Scarab]

Originally Posted by exchanger

because a belief, is not always a 'real' truth

Bingo.

[jem284]

I think everyone should stop killing the messenger. Bill and Kerry are just trying to get the information out there for us to discern for ourselves.
In Bill's interview he said that there is a lot of disinformation out there and no one knows for sure what is truth or not. They can only tell what they have heard and what they believe is the truth.

[mu2143]

Why do I still smell dictators on this form who want to control other people and dominate over others to tell them what they needed to do.

[Anchor]

Originally Posted by mu2143

Why do I still smell dictators on this form who want to control other people and dominate over others to tell them what they needed to do.

Because there are some here. You got a good nose.

There is another factor at play: freewill.

A..

[Majorion]

I could never care much for Bill Deagle, in fact I never once watched any of his interviews.

But this Clif High guy really seems troubled, or more like demented. Who exactly appointed him the bearer of truth? Who is he to attack people and make demands of an organization he has absolutely no affilation with?

I have noted Clif High is super passionate in a negative way, and it just looks like hes a guy whose trying to stick his nose every corner he can, like some 'warrior' of truth.

His wording is also reflective of an aggression and therefore loses all credibility with whatever he's trying to stir up.

We all have our views, this will never change, and I for one am glad there is so much diverse information to listen to, then try to sift through and come to one's own conclusions, the truth will resonate with every person, it comes naturally.

Peace

[burgundia]

I remember Deagle was almost an icon for Bill and Kerry,and so was Henry Deacon..and now I am hearing Delicado is asking for money....as alawys the best advice,watch, listen, discern, and trust your own intuition....

[mkspllmn]

Originally Posted by eXchanger

everyone likely has a different piece of the truth

otherwise, why would all of us be here ???

(let's face it, who is 100% perfect)

the sooner, everyone gets on ONE side,
and, pushes in the same direction

instead - playing 'fighting games' for 'ratings'

and, wasting very valuable time

We might just all consider, joining our hands/and
our highest minds/and, highest hearts
and, bring out solutions and, soul-utions
we might just shift, the whole planet
in a full and, a rich way

There surely is some truth/actually lots of truth

we are our own worst enemies !!!

I concur!

[THE eXchanger]

Originally Posted by waitinginthewings

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Originally Posted by Scarab

Bingo.

Originally Posted by mkspllmn

I concur!

thank you/thank you/thank you

please check out The Earth History thread

we need your help there, this task, we got assigned,

we can NOT do it, all alone !!!

Will some of you, help us ???

Please !!!

[Scarab]

Originally Posted by eXchanger

thank you/thank you/thank you

Don't thank me. Really.

[eleni]

Yes, I agree Initiate. A whistleblower must also remain open to other explanations as well even though he/she is certain XXX happened to them in such and such a way. Even in my experiences there are others who had similar/were used at same places etc; I remain open to alternate explanations. An example is shape shifting which many believe occurs- I am not convinced that was really happening because many times we were drugged and there exists technology to make you believe you are seeing something you really aren't.

[morganlilith]

Originally Posted by eleni

Yes, I agree Initiate. A whistleblower must also remain open to other explanations as well even though he/she is certain XXX happened to them in such and such a way. Even in my experiences there are others who had similar/were used at same places etc; I remain open to alternate explanations. An example is shape shifting which many believe occurs- I am not convinced that was really happening because many times we were drugged and there exists technology to make you believe you are seeing something you really aren't.

eleni, those are my thoughts exactly. when i listened to arizona wilder's testimony regarding shapeshifting, the first thing i thought was 'but you were drugged!!!!'. i have not talked about a lot of the things i saw and experienced, because i know that when under the influence of hallucinogenic drugs, dissociated states, and whatever kinds of technology may have been used, my testimony is not credible. there are things i know beyond a shadow of a doubt, but the details may be different from those remembered by someone who was in the same room. but there are elements of other people's testimonies that ring absolutely true to me. i think that if we are able to take a step back we can easily see which whistleblowers are speaking from integrity. some of the people interviewed by PC strike me as being full of bologna. others of them, while i don't necessarily believe everything they are saying, i get the sense that THEY believe everything they are saying. for me, that's the difference. i have respect for those who are speaking the truth as they know it. they are giving us pieces of the truth to add to our puzzle. i have NO respect for those who are spewing bull that i can tell even THEY don't believe.

[Argante]

Due to the constant changing landscape of of Project Camelot's interviews and projects... as new knowledge is acquired, opinions and dynamics will change. Much of what is being discussed here is hindsight. There is no way Bill or Kerry could have possibly predicted what Whistleblower's would say or do in the future.

To remove Deagle's works on PC/PA sounds a bit like book burning to me. Let the evidence speak for itself to future investigators and members.

I always liked John Lear's signature while he was on ATS:

signature
I seek only the truth. But let me make it perfectly clear how little I think I know:
1. All of my claims are only possibilities.
2. I could be completely misinformed.
3. All of what I believe might not be true.
John Lear

Good advice for us all.

[NewParadigmGuy]

Originally Posted by eXchanger

please check out The Earth History thread

we need your help there, this task, we got assigned,

we can NOT do it, all alone !!!

Will some of you, help us ???

Please !!!

I can't even find "the Earth History thread". Where is it?

[THE eXchanger]

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=17838 here