Obama's 2-Hour Disclosure, Nov 27th

[Gackt]

I think this deserves to be closely looked at: Has anyone been following this, seriously? I mean, Pete Peterson and David Wilcock, among others have given us this time frame and told us there is booked TV air time on it.


As time goes on, for some reason...I just don't see disclosure of this magnitude happening in a couple days. Maybe even this year, now we are going to hear possibly the first half of 2010? I dont like shaky predictions, actually they're not predictions, they're more like insider information on scheduled events; if it's scheduled to happen or post-poned, I think the whistleblowers should know why and when. Also, what assures us that it will not be disinformation? Let's say hypothetically that on November 27th something significant is revealed regarding UFO's. What makes us think that the reality of what is going out there will be said by Obama and his camp? Government and Political bodies don't like to give away secrets. They will feed you with half truths to get a reaction out of the person who is watching (tell people what to believe and they will react). As to the actual disclosure itself, I hope it does happen regardless and even the PTB realize the only way to progress forward is unity in a positive light. Some talked about revealing an actual humanoid alien during the disclosure, which I feel is far-fetched.

[Ross H]

27/11/2009=

11.11 or 22

[Gackt]

thanks for doing that numerology

[olgraybear]

On Dec. 02- Tru Tv channel begins a new series featuring Jesse Ventura,
the former Govonor of Michigan titled Conspriracy Theory.
He claims to reveal what the government is concealinng that he has witnessed.

www.trutv.com

[TheObserver]

Ex guv of Minnesota you mean. That was a fun 4 years, my joke that election was only people who think
pro-wrestling was real would vote for him. It was nice to get a check from the state those years but in
the end he only emptied the state coffers of money it wished it had again just a few years later.
I did like him (and still do) for his social libertarian views on drugs and prostitution and
am curious to watch his tv show, i just hope it's better than his short lived msnbc show (anyone remember that?).

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by TheObserver

Ex guv of Minnesota you mean. That was a fun 4 years, my joke that election was only people who think
pro-wrestling was real would vote for him. It was nice to get a check from the state those years but in
the end he only emptied the state coffers of money it wished it had again just a few years later.
I did like him (and still do) for his social libertarian views on drugs and prostitution and
am curious to watch his tv show, i just hope it's better than his short lived msnbc show (anyone remember that?).

It's funny because I like him too and I grew up watching pro wrestling. I loved it when he was governor but because I don't live in Minn, I had no idea how bad he left that state when he finished up in office.

I think he seems like he'd be willing to expose things that others wouldn't think of doing. He probably wouldn't be a whistleblower in the PA/PC sense but kind of like a bridge to help the mainstream folks connect the dots.

[Gackt]

Jesse Ventura should never be trusted for anything other than leg drops (or whatever wrestling moves he used to do).


"I have No time to bleed!"

[Dogma]

I am still blown away that Wilcock, Peterson, PC and others were going out on SUCH a limb with this Nov 27 date. They HAD to of known that predicting exact dates is certain death(?!)

It was quite interesting what Pickering said; essentially, that Disclosure will only come if/when contact is emminent.

[Northern Boy]

Look for something to come out between now and the summer of 2010 and to use the words a a soon to come guest from Mel or manticore as he is known here show Vetaris for reasons that will become all too apparent

[mntruthseeker]

Jesse Ventura does know alot.........I heard many interviews and am very much aware of what knowledge he has.

I live in Mn and didnt fully understand Jesse.

His first show will be on JFK's assassination. He will not bring up ET's as he says he never got into that and why should he when others are shut down.

Jesses will be discussing how the big corporations run this world and communisim and NWO


I do believe the ETs are all around us and I have heard more people bring up stories of strange things. Lots of sightings going on and you can view them on you tube

Something is going on behind the scenes.

[Gnosis5]

I think you just saw the tip of the iceberg re what is going on behind the scenes.

Let's cut through all the local politics for a sec and what I am seeing in my research. (see my thread here:

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=17233&highlight=Nannies
)

Okay, it's a lot to read and it can be shortened down to a heirarchal structure of local lords (Illuminati), pods of greys promised a lush paradise on earth, a Reptilian fearing them on, then a planetary Satrap (more than one?), and the Annunaki in their higher tech facilities.

If you fall into one of the pods of the Greys (abductions, between lives implanting) you can at this time only get their programming removed through the help of an experienced practitioner. There are some exceptional people who escape the incident unscathed, but you can bet you were probably not one of them if you got selected in the first place. If you think you went someplace and the beings were all nice and loving and for the earth and everything turn your BS detector on full range and look for the technology that vibrationally manufactures and turns on these sentiments and emotions in humans. Sometimes it looks like a long slender silver pen.

They massively use 3d holograms to make you think you are in your type of "heaven".

The GREAT news is that reading about this here and wondering if you got chosen and finding someone who can help you go and take a really close look (especially for anything that might be "hidden") is very possible in this internet/info age. Let's put it this way, if I can do it, why not others? I'm just a housewife in Toronto :-) But we are all potentially dangerous to them, just as we are all very special to each other.

The reason I strongly recommend the help of an experienced practitioner is because it is standard policy for them to give one layers upon layers of "forgetter" commands that must be processed off before the whole picture starts to open up.

I agree, the truth is sometimes so hard to confront -- are there no guys in white hats? I haven't seen them yet, except as fakers. Perhaps like you and me being good guys in white hats, they are too involved in their own local bad guys to care about a planet that is hardly ever featured in their newsreels. So....the saviours of this planet is you and me, babe!

We can do it, I now know how it can be done. Oh, the Annunaki, by their attacks are showing me that we are making a dent: I had to sideline myself this week to clear off some prior contracts and agreements, etc. and take a cool look at their highly sophisticated programming and implanting techniques and technologies. Oh, well, it's part of the trip :-)

Then we'll be back to doing whatever it was that ****** them off (see the latest Tim Ferris thread about pissing people off). http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...ghlight=Ferris

It is very possible there is an as yet unseen heirarchy above them that makes even the Annunaki look like local gamesters. if anyone has seen anything directly above Annunaki please let me know, thank you.

However, we only deal with these beings as they run interference with our goal to apply a spirit based approach to helping mankind on this planet. Plus I always keep up my own personal "know thyself" work along with my housewifery: everything balanced.

cheers,
gnosis

Originally Posted by mntruthseeker

Jesse Ventura does know alot.........I heard many interviews and am very much aware of what knowledge he has.

I live in Mn and didnt fully understand Jesse.

His first show will be on JFK's assassination. He will not bring up ET's as he says he never got into that and why should he when others are shut down.

Jesses will be discussing how the big corporations run this world and communisim and NWO


I do believe the ETs are all around us and I have heard more people bring up stories of strange things. Lots of sightings going on and you can view them on you tube

Something is going on behind the scenes.

[Christo888]

Tomorrow absolutely no form of disclosure will take place.

And Obama will never go on TV for disclosure... that would be political suicide, he'll never do it... ever!

[Gnosis5]

I guess we can retire this thread :-)

[brutus35]

You know, I am almost completely flabbergasted, that people on this forum wil still hold on to predicted dates of proposed coming events. Especially after havivg being told over and over again, that there WILL be No Dates, No Nukes and NO flukes. In other words, if any one proposes a date, it clearly means that they are only speculating, "they do not know" because if they did know, they will not be able to give out any dates. As of now, Nobody knows.

I received this today, and for what it is worth, you will decide.
What I can tell you is that I know the day, but not the date.


KOS Message from Camp David, MarylandPosted by admin On November - 27 - 2009

Thanksgiving Day, 2009

Gordon Brown has announced he plans on changing the Monarchy Rules in Britain’s Constitution [See article posted HERE].

He says he is doing this because the rules are from the 1700s and they are outdated.

The Truth is, St Germain, was at Buckingham Palace last Saturday, November 21st.

The Palace was put on lock down because Diana and Dodi were there with Charles and Camilla. They all four sat attentively listening to their instructions on how the change of succession would take place. He told the four of them Diana and Dodi will be taking over the Monarchy in England. Not only that, but the roles will change in many ways. Diana and Dodi will be heralding in a new form of government in England.

Similar changes will happen in other places. As the 13 families leave the stage, so to speak, their old ways of ruling the people will dissolve and new ways will take their place. These new governing bodies will be formed in the months after the Announcements. We will not be using the old systems based on control.

St. Germain went to Gordon Brown, who very soon will also be leaving the stage, and told him today he must, as the UK Leader, go to the press to Announce the Monarchy will never be the same. He is not revealing Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip are no longer alive in the Palace, and no longer participating in any daily running of the Palace. These announcements will happen at the time of disclosure. Gordon Brown is making public there will be wide spread sweeping changes in the Monarchy and they will be happening soon. Many UK citizens will be very pleased with the changes. This will be the most publicly known Monarchy change, but in several of the EU Nations, similar changes will be taking place.

Interesting news about the U.S. not being a Member of the ICC because it did not ratify the the Rome Statute. Here is the kicker. Any country who DID ratify the Rome Statute, and falls under the jurisdiction of the ICC, can make a War Crimes arrest of ANY SOLDIER OR THEIR GOVERNMENT LEADERS IN CONFLICTS ON THEIR SOIL. [See article posted HERE.] Afghanistan ratified the Rome Statute in 2003. Any Country where the United States has bases, soldiers, or is in any way located, who is a member of the ICC, may bring War Crimes charges of any foreign country participant, or their Government Leaders, all the way up to the Executive Branch. By using Universal Jurisdiction and this rule, together, there is no World Leader in any Country who has immunity from Prosecution. It is Hillary Clinton, the Secretary of State, who is responsible for keeping the United States out of the ICC. She did this to save her bacon. There are 110 Countries who are Member Nations of the ICC and 38 Countries who have signed but not ratified the Rome Statute. China, Russia, India, and the US will not dodge charges of War Crimes, just because they did not ratify. If they are on foreign soil committing War Crimes, they are under the jurisdiction of the ICC just by being in one of the 110 Countries who are Member Representatives.

When we say The Change Over is Happening Now, we mean, hold on to your hats, it is about to get very very interesting.

Today at Camp David, I met with President Obama and St Germain. There were two others at the meeting. There was a Video Conference with Ashtar and others on the Ships. We were discussing the Master Plan related to revealing Galactic Presence and explaining the arrests and changes in governments around the World. There are operations which will be choreographed together in a sequential flow. The final preparations are at hand. Regarding the meeting at Camp David, later next week: What I can say is, the reason the press sites for the meeting is misleading. They are guessing at things they have no knowledge of. There are all kinds of rumors flying out there. For the sake of the military families and their children, I would like to avoid any speculation. Just know, there is much to gain for the dark Hats if an escalation were going to take place. Continue to put out the message that We are not going to buy into False Evidence Appearing Real. The President has waited for weeks to have this meeting to discuss Afghanistan and there are very few people who know what he really will say. He is writing his own speech for that meeting. We will let the Sirian Commander tell you what he wishes to say.

The Time For Peace is now.
KOS

[mntruthseeker]

Originally Posted by brutus35

You know, I am almost completely flabbergasted, that people on this forum wil still hold on to predicted dates of proposed coming events. Especially after havivg being told over and over again, that there WILL be No Dates, No Nukes and NO flukes. In other words, if any one proposes a date, it clearly means that they are only speculating, "they do not know" because if they did know, they will not be able to give out any dates. As of now, Nobody knows.

I received this today, and for what it is worth, you will decide.
What I can tell you is that I know the day, but not the date.


KOS Message from Camp David, MarylandPosted by admin On November - 27 - 2009

Thanksgiving Day, 2009

Gordon Brown has announced he plans on changing the Monarchy Rules in Britain’s Constitution [See article posted HERE].

He says he is doing this because the rules are from the 1700s and they are outdated.

The Truth is, St Germain, was at Buckingham Palace last Saturday, November 21st.

The Palace was put on lock down because Diana and Dodi were there with Charles and Camilla. They all four sat attentively listening to their instructions on how the change of succession would take place. He told the four of them Diana and Dodi will be taking over the Monarchy in England. Not only that, but the roles will change in many ways. Diana and Dodi will be heralding in a new form of government in England.

Similar changes will happen in other places. As the 13 families leave the stage, so to speak, their old ways of ruling the people will dissolve and new ways will take their place. These new governing bodies will be formed in the months after the Announcements. We will not be using the old systems based on control.

St. Germain went to Gordon Brown, who very soon will also be leaving the stage, and told him today he must, as the UK Leader, go to the press to Announce the Monarchy will never be the same. He is not revealing Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip are no longer alive in the Palace, and no longer participating in any daily running of the Palace. These announcements will happen at the time of disclosure. Gordon Brown is making public there will be wide spread sweeping changes in the Monarchy and they will be happening soon. Many UK citizens will be very pleased with the changes. This will be the most publicly known Monarchy change, but in several of the EU Nations, similar changes will be taking place.

Interesting news about the U.S. not being a Member of the ICC because it did not ratify the the Rome Statute. Here is the kicker. Any country who DID ratify the Rome Statute, and falls under the jurisdiction of the ICC, can make a War Crimes arrest of ANY SOLDIER OR THEIR GOVERNMENT LEADERS IN CONFLICTS ON THEIR SOIL. [See article posted HERE.] Afghanistan ratified the Rome Statute in 2003. Any Country where the United States has bases, soldiers, or is in any way located, who is a member of the ICC, may bring War Crimes charges of any foreign country participant, or their Government Leaders, all the way up to the Executive Branch. By using Universal Jurisdiction and this rule, together, there is no World Leader in any Country who has immunity from Prosecution. It is Hillary Clinton, the Secretary of State, who is responsible for keeping the United States out of the ICC. She did this to save her bacon. There are 110 Countries who are Member Nations of the ICC and 38 Countries who have signed but not ratified the Rome Statute. China, Russia, India, and the US will not dodge charges of War Crimes, just because they did not ratify. If they are on foreign soil committing War Crimes, they are under the jurisdiction of the ICC just by being in one of the 110 Countries who are Member Representatives.

When we say The Change Over is Happening Now, we mean, hold on to your hats, it is about to get very very interesting.

Today at Camp David, I met with President Obama and St Germain. There were two others at the meeting. There was a Video Conference with Ashtar and others on the Ships. We were discussing the Master Plan related to revealing Galactic Presence and explaining the arrests and changes in governments around the World. There are operations which will be choreographed together in a sequential flow. The final preparations are at hand. Regarding the meeting at Camp David, later next week: What I can say is, the reason the press sites for the meeting is misleading. They are guessing at things they have no knowledge of. There are all kinds of rumors flying out there. For the sake of the military families and their children, I would like to avoid any speculation. Just know, there is much to gain for the dark Hats if an escalation were going to take place. Continue to put out the message that We are not going to buy into False Evidence Appearing Real. The President has waited for weeks to have this meeting to discuss Afghanistan and there are very few people who know what he really will say. He is writing his own speech for that meeting. We will let the Sirian Commander tell you what he wishes to say.

The Time For Peace is now.
KOS

Do you buy into this ? I would love to see this as an ending to all of this ****.

I do know that there has been alot of **** going on behind the scenes as to the validity of the queens rights to rule. She never had them !!!!!

Princess Di was the only sure ticket. So if somebody hid them out all these years and claimed them dead would be a great trick

Just so you know, I am not holding m breath although it would be the ending I would love to see.

[Jonathon]

Originally Posted by mntruthseeker

Do you buy into this ? I would love to see this as an ending to all of this ****.

I do know that there has been alot of **** going on behind the scenes as to the validity of the queens rights to rule. She never had them !!!!!

Princess Di was the only sure ticket. So if somebody hid them out all these years and claimed them dead would be a great trick

Just so you know, I am not holding m breath although it would be the ending I would love to see.

I think if you are willing to consider ToneJaguar's data on ship and race arrivals leading up to the 27th (which I feel there is validity to), and they aren't here specifically for the proposed disclosure date (which obviously they aren't now that it has passed... unless there is another we are unaware of) then certainly you would have to wonder why so many are here to support us. Perhaps this gives some credence to the above info.

[waitinginthewings]

How do you bring Princess Di & Dodi back from the dead? Thats quite an elaborate car crash they staged then, plus a funeral with her 2 sons walking behind.....hmmmmm what trauma for them. I'm not buying into this at all. Too crazy. Besides we don't need another monarchy, thats all part of the old paradigm....let it fall away with all the other constructs.

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by mntruthseeker

Do you buy into this ? I would love to see this as an ending to all of this ****.

I do know that there has been alot of **** going on behind the scenes as to the validity of the queens rights to rule. She never had them !!!!!

Princess Di was the only sure ticket. So if somebody hid them out all these years and claimed them dead would be a great trick

Just so you know, I am not holding m breath although it would be the ending I would love to see.

More likely they would have access to ET technology wherein they have cloned someone and put a metal band around the original person's head and in some way this metal band transfers that person's mind/database into the clone. I have been told it is a painful process but has been done by a group of ETs.

ETs have incredible psychotechnologies which could be used for good but I don't see that at this point. They seem stuck in their implanter paradigm -- rule by implanted hypnotic suggestions and commands and other psychotechnological manipulations, such as procedures done on a person's vestigial or etheric bodies -- procedures designed to keep us from realizing who we really are, from being our true selves.

This has some connection with the disclosure.

Not sure if this was reported before.

It is not Obama who said it. It was Bulgarian institute for space research.

The articel was in our "main" newspaper under the "interesting" section. There is also the science section but it was not put there. It did not get much of an attention but still it is there.

The article date is 28.11.09

http://www.delo.si/clanek/93744


Short article summary:

Bulgarian institute for space research claims the ET presence is all around us and that they are answering questions via crop circles. They also say ET wishes to help us and that ET are upset with our way of life. They claim that one can not communicate with them via radio etc but that it has to be done with the "power of mind" and that we are not evolved enough to do it.

end of summary

I think that the "power of mind" is meant as a level of conscience.

So it can be said that Bulgarian institute for space research has disclosed the ET existence.

[Carol]

ahhh, this is where he told us he is sending 38,000 more troops to Afganistan.

[Angel in Disguise]

Originally Posted by Carol

ahhh, this is where he told us he is sending 38,000 more troops to Afganistan.

Wasn't part of his campaign to bring the troops home???...

[TempestGarden]

Originally Posted by Angel in Disguise

Wasn't part of his campaign to bring the troops home???...

Yes, and that would be the reason that most people voted from him as well. Several times during his speech I had to look up to make sure it was him (I was also working on the computer) because there were times when I was listening to him that I thought for sure I was hearing Bush. Stop me if you think you've heard this one before, indeed...

[waitinginthewings]

Originally Posted by TempestGarden

Yes, and that would be the reason that most people voted from him as well. Several times during his speech I had to look up to make sure it was him (I was also working on the computer) because there were times when I was listening to him that I thought for sure I was hearing Bush. Stop me if you think you've heard this one before, indeed...

Yes I remember making that statement about bringing the troops home. I believe he even mentioned a certain time period. Should have been done by now.

On Tuesday evening, Obama laid out his strategy to not only increase troop strength, by 30,000 but also to begin withdrawing American forces in about 18 months, beginning in July 2011, if conditions are right. There is something up with this pic?

[Swanny]

What do you mean Obama told a lie?????

[waitinginthewings]

[quote=Northern Boy;191837]Look for something to come out between now and the summer of 2010 and to use the words a a soon to come guest from Mel or manticore as he is known here show Vertatis for reasons that will become all too apparent.

NB: can you please clarify text in red?